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Copper8642
2008-12-21, 09:49 AM
I know I knew this, but I can't remember or find this: How often does a character gain new feats?! I know that some classes gain bonus feats, but aside from that, how often does a regular character get their plain old feats?

Kurald Galain
2008-12-21, 09:52 AM
(edit) Sorry citizen, this information is not available at your security clearance.

Grey Paladin
2008-12-21, 09:53 AM
*Casts Protection from Ninjas*

All characters gain one feat at level 1 and another for every three levels gained (1, 3, 6, etc)

Copper8642
2008-12-21, 09:53 AM
Crisis averted. Thank you.

Heliomance
2008-12-21, 09:54 AM
*Casts Protection from Ninjas*

All characters gain one feat at level 1 and another for every three levels gained (1, 3, 6, etc)

It seems ninjas have SR.

Shpadoinkle
2008-12-21, 11:17 AM
The chart that shows when you get new feats is in the front of the book, along the the experience needed for leveling up and when you get stat points.

Tsotha-lanti
2008-12-21, 11:49 AM
Get the PHB, dude. This stuff is why you can't really play with just the SRD. Need one PHB and DMG per group. (MM, not so much, you just miss out on beholders and mind flayers and such.)

Curmudgeon
2008-12-21, 12:37 PM
All the advancement info is in the table at the start of chapter 3. That's not OGL content.

The Glyphstone
2008-12-21, 12:43 PM
Get the PHB, dude. This stuff is why you can't really play with just the SRD. Need one PHB and DMG per group. (MM, not so much, you just miss out on beholders and mind flayers and such.)

Missing out on Beholders? That's heresy, man! Beholders ARE D&D*. There was one in the Official Movie!

Mind flayers, not so much. You can get rid of them and no one will be upset. Except the hentai fans.

*Little-known fact: The game was originally going to be called Beholders and Barrows, but they decided that hobbits halflings were trampling all over Tolkein's copyright enough already.

Kurald Galain
2008-12-21, 12:44 PM
Missing out on Beholders? That's heresy, man! Beholders ARE D&D. There was one in the Official Movie!

There Was No Official Movie (tm).

Fenix_of_Doom
2008-12-21, 12:44 PM
All the advancement info is in the table at the start of chapter 3. That's not OGL content.

That's true, although I never really got why.
As alternative all this information is also availeble in numerous D&D PC games such as Neverwinter nights, I'm not sure but you might even be able to find this info on one of the creators websites, seems a bit silly doesn't it?

Copper8642
2008-12-21, 03:29 PM
I've played off of the SRD before, and it mostly worked. I don't buy any books because I only play PbP games, none of my other friends are particularly in to it.

Mephit
2008-12-21, 04:35 PM
I've played off of the SRD before, and it mostly worked. I don't buy any books because I only play PbP games, none of my other friends are particularly in to it.

Unfortunately, giving you any information about D20 that isn't in the OGL is illegal, so I wouldn't be surprised if this thread gets locked in one or two hours.

Want to play D&D? Buy the books, please. :smallsigh:

Tsotha-lanti
2008-12-21, 04:47 PM
Unfortunately, giving you any information about D20 that isn't in the OGL is illegal, so I wouldn't be surprised if this thread gets locked in one or two hours.

No, it isn't. It is, in fact, legal for me to write down any part of the rules of D&D and publish it on a website, so long as I don't use their tables and don't copy it verbatim.

It is against the rules of this message board to share non-OGL stuff, but I don't think it's ever been enforced for something as inconsequential as when you get feats (which is obvious from almost any discussion about builds), how much XP you need to level, or how much starting gp you get at which level.

Rules mechanics cannot be copyrighted - only their specific representations are.

People get confused about this all the time, and I can't understand why. I guess they either haven't bothered to read the forum rules, or assume weird and unnecessary reasons for the forum rules?

Athaniar
2008-12-21, 05:16 PM
Missing out on Beholders? That's heresy, man! Beholders ARE D&D*. There was one in the Official Movie!

The beholder was the only thing that remotely gave that movie an appearance of D&D, and it was used asa stupid watchdog. If they had called that movie anything but Dungeons & Dragons, then I wouldn't have a problem with it. But that movie was not Dungeons & Dragons!

wadledo
2008-12-21, 05:27 PM
PSSSSSSTTT!! (http://www.crystalkeep.com/d20/rules/DnD3.5Index-Classes-Base.pdf) hey buddy, look at the last page.

hotel_papa
2008-12-21, 05:30 PM
Marlon Wayans is not a D&D character. Marlon Wayans is not a D&D character!

I maintain that until I see a movie trailer where Patrick Stewart introduces himself as Mordenkainen, there never was and never will be a D&D movie.

Mephit
2008-12-21, 05:34 PM
No, it isn't.
People get confused about this all the time, and I can't understand why. I guess they either haven't bothered to read the forum rules, or assume weird and unnecessary reasons for the forum rules?

Oh, yes, our deepest and humblest apologies for our backward mental state and obviously wrong - for you assumed so correctly! - attitude on these forums.
No, really: We fools without exact knowledge of the written law are truly primitive idiots for this.

Enlighten us, oh Master.

Sarcasm aside, I frown upon these things, regardless of what you may say. It's not as if a PHB is really that expensive - 30 dollars might seem much, but if you know how long you can be entertained with the product, it's worth skipping some other of your daily expenses for a few times. (Though please keep taking baths - just don't go out a couple of evenings)

Tsotha-lanti
2008-12-21, 05:41 PM
Ignorant and angry about it. A winning combination.

Mephit
2008-12-21, 05:47 PM
Ignorant and angry about it. A winning combination.

Just for the record: Are you ignorant about being a troll or is that intentional? :smallconfused:

Either way, I won't be baited into that kind of discussion. Props for the excellent comeback though.

Grey Paladin
2008-12-21, 06:14 PM
The Neverwinter Nights (There Was No Sequel) manual contains all of this information aside from WBL, and can be downloaded for free.

The game (and thus the company which uploaded its manual) is approved by both Wizards and Hasbro and thus I assume it is okay to post this information in public rather then direct him to a link to the manual's download.

MrBojangles
2008-12-21, 06:37 PM
Patrick Stewart introduces himself as Mordenkainen

You just blew my mind dude. I never even thought that.

Although with him being the voice of Khelbin Blackstaff in the retarded Demon Stone game, and Mordenkainen's nifty baldness, it should've been more obvious to me.

*Edit - sorry, thread jack. Please continue.

Fenix_of_Doom
2008-12-22, 12:09 PM
The Neverwinter Nights (There Was No Sequel)

Oh (http://nwn.bioware.com/shadows/) really (http://nwn.bioware.com/underdark/), is (http://www.atari.com/nwn2/US/index.php) that (http://www.atari.com/nwn2/motb/US/) so (http://www.atari.com/nwn2/soz/)?

Deepblue706
2008-12-22, 12:12 PM
There Was No Official Movie (tm).

You can run, your ladyship! But you can Nevah! Run! Far! E-nough! AHHGGGGGGGGGGGGHH

Grey Paladin
2008-12-22, 03:44 PM
Oh (http://nwn.bioware.com/shadows/) really? (http://nwn.bioware.com/underdark/)

Fixed.

NWN2 is a massive april's fools joke, Chris Avellone couldn't *really* write so badly unless he actively tried to, the magnificent net client couldn't be degraded into AOL-grade software, and such memory leaks and lack of optimization couldn't be done in any way but on purpose.

Its funny how people keep falling for it.

Da'Shain
2008-12-22, 03:48 PM
Fixed.

NWN2 is a massive april's fools joke, Chris Avellone couldn't *really* write so badly unless he actively tried to, the magnificent net client couldn't be degraded into AOL-grade software, and such memory leaks and lack of optimization couldn't be done in any way but on purpose.

Its funny how people keep falling for it.Except for the ridiculous "screw you" ending of the the sequel (that was thankfully remedied by the expansion), I actually thought the writing was pretty awesome. The memory leaks and other things, though ... not so much.

Heliomance
2008-12-22, 05:21 PM
Marlon Wayans is not a D&D character. Marlon Wayans is not a D&D character!

I maintain that until I see a movie trailer where Patrick Stewart introduces himself as Mordenkainen, there never was and never will be a D&D movie.

That is so sigged.