New Years Question: Pirates or Ninjas

[the quinn]

With the new year quickly approaching it is time the begin the debate:
Which is better pirate or ninja?

[BizzaroStormy]

*Stares at you*

Yarr...what do ye think?

[Phae Nymna]

I'm dragging three new factions into this!

The Spanish Armada

vs.

The Samurai

vs.

The Chief and the Calvary Men

vs.

Everyone Else in this stupid bloody conflict!

[the quinn]

You have to look at it very hard
The more ninjas you have the easier they are to kill,
One ninja can destroy a ninja, but 1000 can beaten with an old man with a stick
However to pirates power only grows exponentially, as long it is above the minimum needed to man a ship,
its a hard call and need more input

[BizzaroStormy]

So its basically...

Pirate vs. Ninja = Ninja wins

Pirates vs. Ninjas = Pirates win

[the quinn]

as long as the pirates are in number of about 20 in order to man a ship

[Killersquid]

So its basically...

Pirate vs. Ninja = Ninja wins

Pirates vs. Ninjas = Pirates win

The question is plural, therefore, Pirates win (and always win).

[Graywolf]

Pirates all the way, every time.

[Cubey]

Don't we already have Silly Message Board Games for this stuff?

[the quinn]

Really, nuts all my ideas have already down by the silly board games!
This needs more discussion

[dish]

Don't we already have Silly Message Board Games for this stuff?

Every now and again it escapes. Excess of festival spirit maybe?

[Lorn]

You've got to look at this logically, really.

Definitions from Dictionary.com.

Ninja - a member of a feudal Japanese society of mercenary agents, highly trained in martial arts and stealth (ninjutsu), who were hired for covert purposes ranging from espionage to sabotage and assassination.

Pirate -
1 - One who robs at sea or plunders the land from the sea without commission from a sovereign nation. (Or a ship used for this purpose.)
2 - One who preys on others; a plunderer.
3 - One who makes use of or reproduces the work of another without authorization.
4 - One that operates an unlicensed, illegal television or radio station.

So, it can be stated that not all pirates are peg-legged hook-handed guys with tricorn hats. It can, thus, be stated that Vikings are also pirates.

And, well, Vikings are Vikings... and also pirates.

Thus, I'm having to side with the pirates, because they can technically get Vikings on their side :p

[Dallas-Dakota]

You've got to look at this logically, really.

Definitions from Dictionary.com.

Ninja - a member of a feudal Japanese society of mercenary agents, highly trained in martial arts and stealth (ninjutsu), who were hired for covert purposes ranging from espionage to sabotage and assassination.

Pirate -
1 - One who robs at sea or plunders the land from the sea without commission from a sovereign nation. (Or a ship used for this purpose.)
2 - One who preys on others; a plunderer.
3 - One who makes use of or reproduces the work of another without authorization.
4 - One that operates an unlicensed, illegal television or radio station.

So, it can be stated that not all pirates are peg-legged hook-handed guys with tricorn hats. It can, thus, be stated that Vikings are also pirates.

And, well, Vikings are Vikings... and also pirates.

Thus, I'm having to side with the pirates, because they can technically get Vikings on their side :p
Some pirates were also revolutionists.
Did you know the first real equality was with pirates? Where everybody was equal and got a equal share(even though captain got two shares).
And the bell was hung at the front, away from the captain's quarters to indicate power to the people, the crew.
Also, irish people, who migrated to America, and were the first thrown into slavery there(yes, before slaves came out of africa), were also free and equal among pirates.
Heck, even kids, if they had the guts, were equal.

Ofcourse this was the case in some pirate ships, not all.

And this was your annual lesson about pirates.

[Boo]

*raises the red flag to ninja lovers*

If you don't get that, and you support pirates, then you should be ashamed. :smallannoyed::smalltongue:

[SDF]

I chose a third party candidate.

Cowboys. Always cowboys.

[notoriousdrb]

This debate is one of the most perplexing ones that i've come across in all my excursions on the interwebs. It is purely circumstantial, for instance. Say you have an armada of pirate ships, roughly 20 or so. Now during the day, clear skies, and mutiny free they would win hands down versus a similar number of ninjas. But say the ninjas wait till nightfall, now their primary objectives are subterfuge, sabotage, and assassination. A group of ninjas 1/10 the size of the pirates could easily cripple the armada within a few hours without the pirates being any the wiser.

In short, if you do bring up this debate, you should really include a scenario to judge.

But my vote in a general sense goes towards pirates.

[Mr. Zook]

Ninja=win,
NinjaS=maybe win
I believe all of this is detailed in a very book called The Reverse Ninja Compendium. Basicaly, one super-badass person (eg. Master Chief or a ninja) will beat a larger number of not-quite-as-badass people (hunters or pirates). However, large numbers of super-badass people will lose to not-quite-as-badass people, even (and especialy) if the not-quite-as-badass people are out numbered.

[Shanty Man]

Har! Har! Har! Har!
I'm a shanty man!
So what do you think?

[Jalor]

You've got to look at this logically, really.

Definitions from Dictionary.com.

Ninja - a member of a feudal Japanese society of mercenary agents, highly trained in martial arts and stealth (ninjutsu), who were hired for covert purposes ranging from espionage to sabotage and assassination.

Pirate -
1 - One who robs at sea or plunders the land from the sea without commission from a sovereign nation. (Or a ship used for this purpose.)
2 - One who preys on others; a plunderer.
3 - One who makes use of or reproduces the work of another without authorization.
4 - One that operates an unlicensed, illegal television or radio station.

So, it can be stated that not all pirates are peg-legged hook-handed guys with tricorn hats. It can, thus, be stated that Vikings are also pirates.

And, well, Vikings are Vikings... and also pirates.

Thus, I'm having to side with the pirates, because they can technically get Vikings on their side :p

But "pirate" also includes software pirates, who have inflicted SecuROM and Starforce copy protection on innocent gamers. Ninjas would never do such a dishonorable thing.

Not to mention "preys on others" can just as easily be literal; mosquitoes apparently are pirates. So we've got malaria and DRM against... espionage and assassination. Guess who's the evildoer here?

[Crispy Dave]

5 pirates to the power of 2= -infinity ninjas

srry cant find infinity symbol and don't feel like tracking it down.

[Collin152]

I say the Spanish Inquisition wins.

[The Prince of Cats]

To be? (or not to be... hey, there were pirates in that play!)

The choice really is to live a short licentious life of wine, women, loot and infamy or a longer disciplined life of self-denial, poetry and anonymity...

Yarr! To me, mateys... Today... 'tis a good day to die...

(so.. Klingons seem to be pirates too, now I think of it...)

Hamlet, Star Trek and Princess Bride all point to pirates being best. A few badly-dubbed films and some dodgy console games point to ninjas being vaguely interesting...

[Crispy Dave]

I say the Spanish Inquisition wins.

damn I never expected them.

[Collin152]

damn I never expected them.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
Their chief weapon is surprise, surprise and fear...

[late for dinner]

General Custard....*blink* *blink*...never mind...I second the Spanish Inquisition

[Athaniar]

I'm a neutral guy, I like both pirates and ninjas. I suggest they gang up on the evil Spanish Samurai Armada.

[the quinn]

What about the oooo so crazy pirate ninja?

[Crispy Dave]

What about the oooo so crazy pirate ninja?

I fought some of those in a Eberon campaign I am playing in.

[Istari]

I vote we add robots, everyone is cooler with robots

[Naleh]

1 ninja > ∞ pirates.

Really, how can you argue with something like that?

[thubby]

it is a simple matter of tactics. assuming they have the same numbers, the ninjas just have to send in their operative one at a time, and upside down if possible (the ships rigging helps there)

[Alleine]

I vote River Tam.

[RandomNPC]

the dreaded ninja pirate, the shadow that comes in the night and says "Yar!"


here's a thought, pirates tend to lose linmbs and eyes at an alarming rate, however they survive. you never see a wounded ninja, thus they always die when injured.

also pirates don't hide their faces in shame.

[Banjoist333]

Haley (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0121.html) makes a very convincing argument. I'm with the pirates.

[OldSchoolGamer7]

Pirates. Drinking, traveling with the winds, loot, and women? Sign me up, yarrrrr!

[Halna LeGavilk]

Totally pirates. Why? Because modern pirates get motion tracking, heat, radar, and all those fancy things plus guns. And they are allowed to be outside Japan, ya know? Ninjas are exclusively Japan, pirates are EVERYWHERE!

[Spiryt]

Totally pirates. Why? Because modern pirates get motion tracking, heat, radar, and all those fancy things plus guns. And they are allowed to be outside Japan, ya know? Ninjas are exclusively Japan, pirates are EVERYWHERE!

And they're around since sea trade was invented!

[EmeraldRose]

Pirate-Ninjas. (http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ninja_Pirate) :smallamused:

Yin-Yarr.

[Ninja Chocobo]

I'll let my username speak for itself.
The real question is Romans vs. Mongols, only that's not a real question either because everyone knows the Mongols would kick the Roman's collective arse.

[de-trick]

I chose a third party candidate.

Cowboys. Always cowboys.

Yes cowboys win, why because no matter 1 or 1000 they remain strong

[darkblade]

Isn't it about time to put this old Ninja vs Pirate meme (that probably came from a long forgotten One Peice vs Naruto thread on some anime bored which is odd because they are their respective factions in name only) to rest. It is time we put these badass professions behind us and start asking about subhuman abnormalities.

Folks it is time to ask the real question. Mutants vs Vampires.

[BisectedBrioche]

Haley (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0121.html) makes a very convincing argument. I'm with the pirates.

Haley fails to realise that ninja don't have a system of honor. They're basically samarai who don't have any qualms with using stealth, poison and the like.

If anything a ninja would honor a contract to assinate someone (even when bribed) because it would be good buisness practise (you hardly want an assassin that can be bribed against you after all).

[Flame of Anor]

I'll let my username speak for itself.
The real question is Romans vs. Mongols, only that's not a real question either because everyone knows the Mongols would kick the Roman's collective arse.

Only in the Empire's declining years--for several centuries, the Roman legions were made of 100% concentrated badass. It was only when they started staying home and only hiring foreigners that didn't have real loyalties to the Empire that it started decaying.

/rabid ancient Rome fan

[Pandaren]

as long as the pirates are in number of about 20 in order to man a ship

How would a ship help against ninjas.

Your argument failed.

Failtrain failed.

Ninjas all the way.


Totally pirates. Why? Because modern pirates get motion tracking, heat, radar, and all those fancy things plus guns. And they are allowed to be outside Japan, ya know? Ninjas are exclusively Japan, pirates are EVERYWHERE!

Pirates are in water, ninjas can be on boats and on land, and nothing stops them from leaving Japan.

[Roland St. Jude]

Sheriff of Moddingham: We don't do versus threads anymore, especially not content-free ones such as this. Happy New Year, though. Sheriffs rule.