New versus thread: If Lucreazia Mongfish was at the Siege of the North.

[Agrippa]

Now this is a major league Avatar: The Last Airbender/Girl Genius crossover vs. thread that assumes quite a few disturbing things, like any sort of relationship or alliance between Ozai and Lucreazia Mongfish.

Lucreazia Mongfish at the Siege of the North

Firelord Ozai's lover and futrue wife, Lucreazia Mongfish, A.K.A. the Other, has been dispatched to conquer the Northen Water Tribes along with Zhao's fleet. The plan is simple, infect as many of the first wave of warriors with slaver wasps as possoble converting them into revenants (http://girlgenius.wikia.com/wiki/Revenants) and storm the city with her warclanks and geisterdamen. The ultimate goal is to kill chief Arnook and convert his daughter Yue into a type two revenant, still alive and human looking but as a biochemically enslaved thrall to Lucreazia. Then capture and cybernetically control both Tui and La.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/girlgenius/images/2/20/Lucrezia_pouting.jpg
Lucreazia Mongfish (http://girlgenius.wikia.com/wiki/Lucrezia_Mongfish)
Assets:
1. Her Geisterdamen (http://girlgenius.wikia.com/wiki/Geisterdamen)
2. slaver wasps (http://girlgenius.wikia.com/wiki/Slaver_wasps)
3. warclanks
4. Underestimation from the Northern Water Tribe.
5. Willing cooperation from Hahn after he was caught onboard. She will compensate him for thi job. He's supposed to gather as many defectors as possible.

Northern Water Tribe
Assets:
Master Pakku (combative waterbending)
Katara (combative waterbending and healing)
Aang (Avatar)
Sokka
Chief Arnook
healers
battle trained waterbenders
rank and file non-benders

[sun_tzu]

She's a high-level spark.
The Water Tribe is screwed.

[Evil DM Mark3]

The only way I can see the Water Tribe standing a chance is if Benders have similar wasp immunity to sparks. Even then I doubt it. The last of these I saw (Klaus Vs Fire nation) gave Klaus a tiny force and access to a blacksmith's and most where certain he would win.

The spark is much more powerful than what you would normally find in the Avatar universe.

[Eldan]

Yeah. Given her power, she doesn't even need any ghost ladies or war clanks. Well, perhaps to protect her until she builds something, just like with Claus.

[Mando Knight]

Lucrezia doesn't need the Fire Nation to build her army to annihilate the Water Tribe. With the Fire Nation, she simply has the resources to do it faster. She's considered an extremely powerful Spark, in a world where a not-top-tier Spark can construct fifty-foot warclanks, and one of her rivals, who also served as the Heterodyne Brothers' Lancer (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheLancer), built an entire fleet of airships capable of conquering a Europe filled with such war machines.

[theMycon]

She'd win, but how depends on what spark-power standards you're using.

If she has "beginning-of-comic" Spark powers, she'd be able to upgrade roughly one of their ships every day or so, but Sparks have no resistance to slaver wasps yet, so she can freely infect everyone on the first wave, whether Benders count as Sparks or not. She'd own the town nigh-bloodlessly.

With "volume eight" Spark powers, she wouldn't even need the slaver wasps to simply walk in the front door and tell everyone (or, every non-bender, if they're immune) to kill their leaders, without bothering with the wasps, while she fashioned a death-ray from the ice. She could upgrade the entire fire-nation navy in two hours, but would know better than to make a viable competitior.

[DomaDoma]

If she has "beginning-of-comic" Spark powers, she'd be able to upgrade roughly one of their ships every day or so, but Sparks have no resistance to slaver wasps yet, so she can freely infect everyone on the first wave, whether Benders count as Sparks or not. She'd own the town nigh-bloodlessly.

The revenant from the beginning wasn't actually a Spark, IIRC.

[theMycon]

The revenant from the beginning wasn't actually a Spark, IIRC.

I was kind of thinking of how Agatha & Gil, when fighting the wasps, were afraid they'd be taken over. See here (http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20040602).
Klaus himself- the only person around at that point who'd know better than his son- doesn't state whether or not sparks are vulnerable. But he agrees it's a risk to everyone onboard.

[DomaDoma]

I was kind of thinking of how Agatha & Gil, when fighting the wasps, were afraid they'd be taken over. See here (http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20040602).
Klaus himself- the only person around at that point who'd know better than his son- doesn't state whether or not sparks are vulnerable. But he agrees it's a risk to everyone onboard.

Really, that period of history is uber-confused and Klaus wasn't around for any of it (that we know of), so this is in no way conclusive. (On another note, The Voice shows up maybe three strips past the one you linked to, so hah.)

By the by, what the heck did go down with that specialized wasp before the insane carnival battle?

[Astrella]

Sparks can surely be infected. It's just that they turn into mindless revenants and aren't that useful anymore when they do. :smalltongue:

[theMycon]

Really, that period of history is uber-confused and Klaus wasn't around for any of it (that we know of), so this is in no way conclusive. (On another note, The Voice shows up maybe three strips past the one you linked to, so hah.)

By the by, what the heck did go down with that specialized wasp before the insane carnival battle?

Bottom-up:
Klaus got infected. The page after it goes down his throat, he's shown to recognize The Voice, show clear hatred for Lucrezia, and still have to follow orders- even a wispered "silence".

The Voice shown then is on slayer wasp warriors- there's no doubt that The Other's voice affects them. I'm claiming there's a power creep. The Wiki-official current take on "The Voice" is that a Spark (possibly, but not explicitly, any Spark- certainly all the plot-relevant ones) are currently are just so charismatic that any non-Spark who's not thinking about it just naturally falls in with them. Which seems strongly implied against in earlier volumes.

Not being conclusive... well, it's pretty strong evidence. If a spark swallowed one and followed orders, you could simply say "it's psychosomatic" and it'd be inconclusive. But the simplest interpretation is that everyone thought Sparks had no resistance, and then in Sturmhalten it suddenly became common knowledge that they could not be infected.

Major plot points are obviously planned years in advance. They're obviously not thrown together with whatever fits- I'm not expecting Othar to suddenly become Uncle Barry because they're both powerful-Spark gentlemen adventurers who are currently insane, about the same age, and of the same size & build. On the other hand, minor details get fudged- such as the voice & the wasps. Such is natural over a (seven?) year run.

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Edit: I just put my first two paragraphs together. It seems like we don't have ironclad proof that Klaus is infected. Just really, really good circumstantial evidence. However, he might have a good plan up his sleeve.

[Mr. Scaly]

To paraphrase Yoda:

"Whoa... So dead, you be."