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Mooch
2009-02-08, 11:21 AM
On a normal turn attempt the undead makes them cower which is a fear affect, wouldn't the undead immunity to mind-affecting stop this. If not would mindblank or another type of immunity to mind affecting

Also is it possible to make an undead immune to turning so that they do not have the chance to be destroyed.

TheCountAlucard
2009-02-08, 11:49 AM
The fear a turned undead suffers from is a specific exception to their immunity to fear.

Also, unless you're a Death Knight, which has immunity to turning, the best you're going to be able to do is get something with turn resistance.

bosssmiley
2009-02-08, 11:54 AM
On a normal turn attempt the undead makes them cower which is a fear affect, wouldn't the undead immunity to mind-affecting stop this. If not would mindblank or another type of immunity to mind affecting

Turned undead are recoiling from their spiritual antithesis out of a sense of self-preservation, rather than out of fear. Assume that they can feel the harm this power would do to them and that they either a) make a rationale choice not to destroy themselves, or b) can no more approach the cleric than a fish can swim through rock.

Don't think mind-affecting: think fantasy physics. :smallsmile:


Also is it possible to make an undead immune to turning so that they do not have the chance to be destroyed.

Sure you can. So long as you as DM have a really good rationale for discarding the mechanic, and if you offer the cleric something to compensate for undead just becoming even more difficult to defeat (given that their vulnerability to turning in part compensates for their other immunities).