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Arros Winhadren
2009-02-10, 04:31 AM
But it was actually created by his ancient ancestor Maximus Gygaxius. (http://www.battleforce.com/ancient_die.html)

AslanCross
2009-02-10, 04:57 AM
I think that's been posted in the "dice questions" thread before. It's awesome partly because it's ancient, and partly because it's huge.

Ascension
2009-02-10, 05:04 AM
I thought this was going to be another "Dave Arneson is cooler" thread. I was pleasantly surprised. That's great.

Stealthdozer
2009-02-10, 05:07 AM
Is there nothing new under the sun?

insecure
2009-02-10, 05:15 AM
Oh, I thought Al Gore invented it?

Ehh, what?:smallconfused:

Rettu Skcollob
2009-02-10, 05:19 AM
Okay; so Caesar crosses the Rubicon. Pompey; roll for Initiative.

And thus it was revealed that Plutarch kept the best Campaign Journal of ALL TIME.

Weiser_Cain
2009-02-10, 05:29 AM
Is there nothing new under the sun?
Not when it comes to simple geometric shapes.

Neithan
2009-02-10, 05:41 AM
Is there nothing new under the sun?

No, that's why people want to share their amazing 5 year old stories.

Starscream
2009-02-10, 05:41 AM
Okay; so Caesar crosses the Rubicon. Pompey; roll for Initiative.

And thus it was revealed that Plutarch kept the best Campaign Journal of ALL TIME.

Thanks for that.

I like to think that this is how ancient mythology came about. Archeologists found Homer's Illiad campaign notes and decided that's the way people actually thought it happened. All those statues? Really big gaming miniatures.

Someday future scientists will uncover some of my character sheets, and generations will be taught that the 21st century's greatest hero was a halfling named Nobby and that we worshiped the great god Olidamarra.

Rad
2009-02-10, 05:47 AM
Not when it comes to simple geometric shapes.

especially since there are only 5 regular polytopes, no wonder someone else noticed one of them at some time.

Telonius
2009-02-10, 06:03 AM
Of course they called it "Cavemen and Sabertoothed Tigers" back then. d20 Modern was a lot less developed (too many arguments about whether a gladius was more like a Branch With Rock Attached or a Really Sharp Rock). Newer editions were derided as being too "Egyptian hieroglyph" in tone and feel.

BobVosh
2009-02-10, 06:20 AM
Of course they called it "Cavemen and Sabertoothed Tigers" back then. d20 Modern was a lot less developed (too many arguments about whether a gladius was more like a Branch With Rock Attached or a Really Sharp Rock). Newer editions were derided as being too "Egyptian hieroglyph" in tone and feel.

Then when they updated from Greek to Roman gods people got confused, all those issues where 3.G and 3.R were too similiar and new players couldn't tell the difference.

Man, two inches? I missed how big it was until the second post.

KKL
2009-02-10, 06:30 AM
Edition Wars and Nerd Rage destroyed Rome.

Ceasar died because he was a crappy DM.

Ascension
2009-02-10, 06:35 AM
I've heard Pyrrhus's parties usually defeated the BBEG, but only after a near-TPK...

The Minx
2009-02-10, 06:37 AM
I wonder what gaming rules they used with that thing. It would be pretty cool if those were discovered too.

3rd Edition vs 4th Edition? Move over, this will be the real edition war!

Rettu Skcollob
2009-02-10, 08:04 AM
Edition Wars and Nerd Rage destroyed Rome.

Great, now all I can see are Vandals bludgeoning Romans with 'IV Edition' Sourcebooks.

Prometheus
2009-02-10, 08:05 AM
Somewhere in Jerusalem, a famous Rogue rolled a one on his Bluff check.

SoD
2009-02-10, 08:10 AM
Ceasar died because he was a crappy DM.

No, Ceasar died because he played like a n00b.

Jack_Simth
2009-02-10, 08:23 AM
Ehh, what?:smallconfused:
Snopes article (http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp). Kaihaku's making a joke based on a misquote of something Al Gore said once during an interview.

Morty
2009-02-10, 08:28 AM
No, Ceasar died because he played like a n00b.

I thought it was because he conquered Galia and Britain with a clever rules abuse.

Telonius
2009-02-10, 08:29 AM
Then there was Alexander - he gave his DM fits. Every time he had crafted some brilliant puzzle or RP opportunity, Alex just went all hack and slash. The DM really should have stepped in after the Gordium incident, but it was another ten years before he pulled the "mosquitos attack, everybody dies" routine.

Aoric
2009-02-10, 08:36 AM
that's awesome.

Though, *insert witty comment that makes everyone laugh, here*

(what? I'm barely through my first coffee this morning.)

Blackfang108
2009-02-10, 09:51 AM
Someday future scientists will uncover some of my character sheets, and generations will be taught that the 21st century's greatest hero was a halfling named Nobby and that we worshiped the great god Olidamarra.

*AHEM*

The records will clearly show that Mindarthis Silverburg, Spiral Tactician of the Raven Queen, was superior to Nobby Nobbs.

:smallbiggrin:

Or not.

Trizap
2009-02-10, 10:24 AM
Gilgamesh was great character, played by a great man, it was unfortunate that Enkidu died and his player stormed out in anger, unwilling to make a new character, thus Gilgamesh and his player had to face the rest of the campaign alone :smallbiggrin:

and Odysseus was one the best roleplayers there was; he was really that good.

BRC
2009-02-10, 10:29 AM
Genghis Khan figured out an exploit in the mounted combat rules that nobody has been able to match since.

Sebastian
2009-02-10, 10:41 AM
Edition Wars and Nerd Rage destroyed Rome.

Ceasar died because he was a crappy DM.

He should have start suspecting when Brutus took all those rogue levels.

MorhgorRB
2009-02-10, 11:03 AM
Ceasar saves. The rest of you take damage.

Alternatively :

DM : Alright, my lord Ceasar, you were killed by the rolling spi...
C : No, I wasn't.
DM: Well... see, look. You were standing here, and the rock ran you over.
C : I'm fairly sure that didn't happen.
DM: I'm telling yo... *guards* .... that it didn't happen.
C : Righto. Brutus, you got my back, right?

Alternative Alternate :

DM : HA, ahah hah hahahh...
Ceasar : I keep rolling Ares! I want Aphroditie already...
DM : Alright so... *rolls* You have to fight three angry gladiators to the death, because you tried to have them killed in the arena, with lions.
Ceasar : Arena... Pah.

kamikasei
2009-02-10, 11:05 AM
He should have start suspecting when Brutus took all those rogue levels.

No, no. Caesar was stabbed to death by a group of senators armed with daggers who had him surrounded and flanked. All this illustrates is that numbers and terrain can make an otherwise trivial encounter lethal, and that all politicians have at least a little thief and liar in them.

Jack Zander
2009-02-10, 11:15 AM
Brutus comes into the room and sees Caeser pinned by Casca.

"Help me Brutus!" Cried Caeser.
"No! He is too dangerous to be left alive!" Replied Casca.

And Caeser was thrust from the window of the forum with a violent 3rd level lightning bolt and fell to his death.

BRC
2009-02-10, 11:24 AM
Repost from This Thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89025)

Julius Cesar, as a DnD session

The session is winding down for now, J.C's min-maxed character ended the adventure early so they groups just killing time for now.
DM: Alright, you guys return to Rome where Cesar is hailed as a hero.
Marc Antony: Well done dude
M.A and J.C. high-five.
Cassius: Oh, I didn't know HERO meant MUNCHKIN.
Cesar: Chill out, I'm just creatively interpreting the rules.
Cassius: I'll creatively interpret YOUR RULES.
Antony: YOUR MOM CREATIVELY INTERPRETS RULES.
Brutus: can you guys stop bickering, carry on Will.
DM: Alright, so Cesar is hailed as a hero.
Antony: I'll offer him a crown.
J.C.: Thanks but no dude, Ive already got something in my head slot.
Antony: Come on, take it.
J.C: sorry, that would mess up my build.
Antony: dude, you deserve it.
J.C.: Once again, no, unless, hey will, what bonus would I get for accepting this thing.
DM: None, Antony isnt authorized to declare you king, accepting would be pointless, though the people might like you a little more if you refuse.
J.C: Yeah, I'm totally refusing, hey, look at the time, I gotta go.
Antony: You still giving me a ride?
J.C: Sure, come on.
Antony and Cesar leave
Cassius: J.C's a douche, we never get to do anything, his character just stomps on everything, we should see if Will will let us kill him.
Brutus: Sorry, I'm LG, I won't just stab him, it would be out of character.
Cassius: what if I forge a letter that makes it look like the people want him stabbed.
Brutus: That works.
Will: What are you two talking about?
Cassius: Hey, we wanna stab J.C next session.
Will: Okay, I guess, though I'm going to warn him.
The Next Session

DM: Hey Cesar, I forgot to mention, during the parade, a crazy old dude told you to beware
Will looks at the calender
DM: March Fifteenth.
J.C: Whatever, so what happens next.
DM: When you wake up in the morning, you hear that you are to be summoned to the senate house, your wife tells you not to go.
J.C: I ignore her and go.
DM: Along the way you see the old man again, he sa-
J.C: Whatever, I go to the senate house and see what they want.
DM: You see the assembled senators and other noteworthies of Rome., including Brutus, Cassius, and Ant-
Antony: Hey, I'm gonna get a soda, be right back.
DM: Okay, Antony's wandered off somewhere.
J.C: Okay, what do they want.
Cassius: I sidle up behind J.C and sneak attack him
J.C: DUDE, WTF
DM: Alright, you and your fellow conspirators begin attacking Cesar, roll for initiative
Initiative is rolled for, and Cesar, being out of his rules exploiting magic items and in ceremonial dress, goes last. Each turn he gets stabbed, until he is at 1 hit point.
DM: Brutus, it's your turn.
J.C: YES!, help me out here big B.
Brutus: I stab Cesar.
J.C: SONOFA-
Antony returns with a mountain dew
Antony: What did I miss
DM: They just killed J.C
Antony: Dude, that's bull.
J.C: That's what I'm saying.
Cassius: It's better then your f****** Min-Maxing.
Antony: So, can I speak at the funeral or somthing.
Brutus: sure, but you can't blame us.
Antony: Okay
Antony makes a bluff check.
J.C.: Hey, I'm going to make a new character
J.C goes off into another room to check his rulebooks.
DM: Alright, it's the funeral, brutus, make a perform: Oratory check to get the crowd to agree with you.
Brutus: 16
DM: alright, that works, Antony, it's your turn on the podium.
Antony: Alright, I get the crowd angry at Brutus and Cassius

Antony rolls
Antony: Sweet, Natural 20!
DM: Alright, the crowd gets angry and wants to kill Brutus and Cassius, what do you do.
Brutus and Cassius: WE GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE!
J.C: Alright, I'm back with a new character.
Cassius: You mean Munchkin.
DM: Alright, lets see, Octavius is it.
J.C: Yup.
DM: Alright Octavius, you enter Rome just after Brutus and Cassius leave.
Antony: Alright, lets kick some traitor ass.
Act II

They broke out Heroes of Battle and have been fighting for a few sessions now when Will (the DM) decides to end the campaign.
DM: Alright, you decide to make your stand at Philipi
Brutus: We do? let me see the map.
DM: If you don't I just use this same map for whatever place you DO pick, I spent an hour on this thing.
Brutus: Okay, we meet at Philipi, lets get this started.
O.C: Hey, can I have the ghost of my previous character appear?
DM: Sure
O.C: Alright, I have him appear in Brutus's bedtent and attack!
DM: You can't attack, just deliver a message or something.
O.C: Okay, Brutus, you're going down.
DM: Alright, let's do this.
The battle rages, Antony has leveled up a few times and had Octavius help him out, so due to their munchkinery, Octavius and Antony start winning pretty heavily.
Cassius: Screw this, I quit, I have my slave stab me.
Brutus: Yeah, this is bull, I run on my own sword.
DM: Alright, looks like you two win.
Antony and Octavius: Hell yeah! Alright, so, what do you want to do now?
DM: Well, I've got another campaign idea you could roll characters for. It's about Scottish Noblemen.
Cassius: Provided JC promises not to min-max again, it sounds like fun.
J.C.: Sure, sure, I'll go Core for this one.
Antony: Me too, hey, my girlfriend wants to try playing, think she could join the next campaign.
DM: Sure.


Next up (maybe),
The Scottish Session, or DR 50/ Man not of Women Born

Ascension
2009-02-10, 11:47 AM
Repost from This Thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89025)

Julius Cesar, as a DnD session

The session is winding down for now, J.C's min-maxed character ended the adventure early so they groups just killing time for now.
DM: Alright, you guys return to Rome where Cesar is hailed as a hero.
Marc Antony: Well done dude
M.A and J.C. high-five.
Cassius: Oh, I didn't know HERO meant MUNCHKIN.
Cesar: Chill out, I'm just creatively interpreting the rules.
Cassius: I'll creatively interpret YOUR RULES.
Antony: YOUR MOM CREATIVELY INTERPRETS RULES.
Brutus: can you guys stop bickering, carry on Will.
DM: Alright, so Cesar is hailed as a hero.
Antony: I'll offer him a crown.
J.C.: Thanks but no dude, Ive already got something in my head slot.
Antony: Come on, take it.
J.C: sorry, that would mess up my build.
Antony: dude, you deserve it.
J.C.: Once again, no, unless, hey will, what bonus would I get for accepting this thing.
DM: None, Antony isnt authorized to declare you king, accepting would be pointless, though the people might like you a little more if you refuse.
J.C: Yeah, I'm totally refusing, hey, look at the time, I gotta go.
Antony: You still giving me a ride?
J.C: Sure, come on.
Antony and Cesar leave
Cassius: J.C's a douche, we never get to do anything, his character just stomps on everything, we should see if Will will let us kill him.
Brutus: Sorry, I'm LG, I won't just stab him, it would be out of character.
Cassius: what if I forge a letter that makes it look like the people want him stabbed.
Brutus: That works.
Will: What are you two talking about?
Cassius: Hey, we wanna stab J.C next session.
Will: Okay, I guess, though I'm going to warn him.
The Next Session

DM: Hey Cesar, I forgot to mention, during the parade, a crazy old dude told you to beware
Will looks at the calender
DM: March Fifteenth.
J.C: Whatever, so what happens next.
DM: When you wake up in the morning, you hear that you are to be summoned to the senate house, your wife tells you not to go.
J.C: I ignore her and go.
DM: Along the way you see the old man again, he sa-
J.C: Whatever, I go to the senate house and see what they want.
DM: You see the assembled senators and other noteworthies of Rome., including Brutus, Cassius, and Ant-
Antony: Hey, I'm gonna get a soda, be right back.
DM: Okay, Antony's wandered off somewhere.
J.C: Okay, what do they want.
Cassius: I sidle up behind J.C and sneak attack him
J.C: DUDE, WTF
DM: Alright, you and your fellow conspirators begin attacking Cesar, roll for initiative
Initiative is rolled for, and Cesar, being out of his rules exploiting magic items and in ceremonial dress, goes last. Each turn he gets stabbed, until he is at 1 hit point.
DM: Brutus, it's your turn.
J.C: YES!, help me out here big B.
Brutus: I stab Cesar.
J.C: SONOFA-
Antony returns with a mountain dew
Antony: What did I miss
DM: They just killed J.C
Antony: Dude, that's bull.
J.C: That's what I'm saying.
Cassius: It's better then your f****** Min-Maxing.
Antony: So, can I speak at the funeral or somthing.
Brutus: sure, but you can't blame us.
Antony: Okay
Antony makes a bluff check.
J.C.: Hey, I'm going to make a new character
J.C goes off into another room to check his rulebooks.
DM: Alright, it's the funeral, brutus, make a perform: Oratory check to get the crowd to agree with you.
Brutus: 16
DM: alright, that works, Antony, it's your turn on the podium.
Antony: Alright, I get the crowd angry at Brutus and Cassius

Antony rolls
Antony: Sweet, Natural 20!
DM: Alright, the crowd gets angry and wants to kill Brutus and Cassius, what do you do.
Brutus and Cassius: WE GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE!
J.C: Alright, I'm back with a new character.
Cassius: You mean Munchkin.
DM: Alright, lets see, Octavius is it.
J.C: Yup.
DM: Alright Octavius, you enter Rome just after Brutus and Cassius leave.
Antony: Alright, lets kick some traitor ass.
Act II

They broke out Heroes of Battle and have been fighting for a few sessions now when Will (the DM) decides to end the campaign.
DM: Alright, you decide to make your stand at Philipi
Brutus: We do? let me see the map.
DM: If you don't I just use this same map for whatever place you DO pick, I spent an hour on this thing.
Brutus: Okay, we meet at Philipi, lets get this started.
O.C: Hey, can I have the ghost of my previous character appear?
DM: Sure
O.C: Alright, I have him appear in Brutus's bedtent and attack!
DM: You can't attack, just deliver a message or something.
O.C: Okay, Brutus, you're going down.
DM: Alright, let's do this.
The battle rages, Antony has leveled up a few times and had Octavius help him out, so due to their munchkinery, Octavius and Antony start winning pretty heavily.
Cassius: Screw this, I quit, I have my slave stab me.
Brutus: Yeah, this is bull, I run on my own sword.
DM: Alright, looks like you two win.
Antony and Octavius: Hell yeah! Alright, so, what do you want to do now?
DM: Well, I've got another campaign idea you could roll characters for. It's about Scottish Noblemen.
Cassius: Provided JC promises not to min-max again, it sounds like fun.
J.C.: Sure, sure, I'll go Core for this one.
Antony: Me too, hey, my girlfriend wants to try playing, think she could join the next campaign.
DM: Sure.


Next up (maybe),
The Scottish Session, or DR 50/ Man not of Women Born


This is EPIC. Truly EPIC.

Fax Celestis
2009-02-10, 12:50 PM
The Americans only won the War of Independence because the British didn't understand the sniping rules.

Starscream
2009-02-10, 01:13 PM
The records will clearly show that Mindarthis Silverburg, Spiral Tactician of the Raven Queen, was superior to Nobby Nobbs.

See, the funny thing here is that I didn't mention his last name and yet you got it in one.

But yeah, my Rogue is based on Pterry's Nobby. Tell me you wouldn't like to see him in a campaign.

Blackfang108
2009-02-10, 01:38 PM
See, the funny thing here is that I didn't mention his last name and yet you got it in one.

But yeah, my Rogue is based on Pterry's Nobby. Tell me you wouldn't like to see him in a campaign.

Oh, I would.

My LFR character is based on Kamina.

How many Nobbys are there in Quality Literature, anyway?

BRC
2009-02-10, 01:39 PM
The Americans only won the War of Independence because the British didn't understand the sniping rules.
Thats nothing compared to when Napoleon forgot to look up environmental effects and forgot to recruit somebody with enough ranks in survival.

MCerberus
2009-02-10, 01:46 PM
I used to think that the first campaign log was written in Northern Europe in the late first millennium some time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf), but now I realize that even in Greek times, people were exploiting AoO rules and reach weapons with munchkin characters. Thermopylae anyone?

Another_Poet
2009-02-10, 02:09 PM
I wonder what gaming rules they used with that thing. It would be pretty cool if those were discovered too.


Sorry to break the bubble but based on the symbols etched into it I strongly suspect it was used for divination, not for any kind of game at all.

If it was used for a game it was probably a simple gambling game like Craps and such.

Nonetheless I adore the Julius Caesar thing and the other comparisons above.

aje8
2009-02-10, 03:54 PM
The 100 Years war was won because the French lacked Longbow profeciency and spent too much time reloading crossbows.

This thread is epic.

Weiser_Cain
2009-02-10, 05:43 PM
The Americans only won the War of Independence because the British didn't understand the sniping rules.
In retrospect it's probably good they lost.

Aron Times
2009-02-10, 06:17 PM
Yeah, the British thought they could get away with not assigning defenders to their leaders. Because of this, American strikers totally WTFPWNED them.

BRC
2009-02-10, 06:19 PM
Yeah, the British thought they could get away with not assigning defenders to their leaders. Because of this, American strikers totally WTFPWNED them.
Meh, we would have lost had Franklin not been around to cast Summon French VII

chiasaur11
2009-02-10, 06:22 PM
No, no. Caesar was stabbed to death by a group of senators armed with daggers who had him surrounded and flanked. All this illustrates is that numbers and terrain can make an otherwise trivial encounter lethal, and that all politicians have at least a little thief and liar in them.

Ah, the legendary Tucker's senators.

Weiser_Cain
2009-02-10, 06:23 PM
I meant it avoided a bigger, nastier war later and if there was worse blood between the two nations WW1&2 could have turned out much different.

RavKal
2009-02-10, 06:34 PM
This thread is golden.

Oswald had rapid reload and dimension door!

Fax Celestis
2009-02-10, 06:41 PM
King Leonidas, and every single one of his 300 spartans, had levels in Prodigal Overlord.

Dervag
2009-02-10, 06:48 PM
Then when they updated from Greek to Roman gods people got confused, all those issues where 3.G and 3.R were too similiar and new players couldn't tell the difference.Also, the number "3" hadn't been invented yet, which made things even more awkward.


I meant it avoided a bigger, nastier war later and if there was worse blood between the two nations WW1&2 could have turned out much different.What if the American colonies had been eased gracefully into dominion status by a Britain willing to accept MPs from Virginia and Massachusetts?

I mean yeah, it wasn't likely to happen, but a British victory in the American Revolution probably wasn't either. The logistics were just too bad. Likewise, the American upper class just had too much in common with Britain for the blood between those two nations to remain truly bad for long.

Weiser_Cain
2009-02-10, 06:57 PM
Also, the number "3" hadn't been invented yet, which made things even more awkward.

What if the American colonies had been eased gracefully into dominion status by a Britain willing to accept MPs from Virginia and Massachusetts?

I mean yeah, it wasn't likely to happen, but a British victory in the American Revolution probably wasn't either. The logistics were just too bad. Likewise, the American upper class just had too much in common with Britain for the blood between those two nations to remain truly bad for long.An upper class based on British ancestry? Oh yeah, that would have lead to peace.... /sarcasm

evil-frosty
2009-02-10, 07:28 PM
I am loving the all of the Julius Cesar jokes especially since i have to read it in class.

ShneekeyTheLost
2009-02-10, 07:46 PM
Yeah, the British thought they could get away with not assigning defenders to their leaders. Because of this, American strikers totally WTFPWNED them.

That and the Americans found out that Crossbow Sniper could be applied to muskets, so they could apply their precision-based damage from the dip of Scout to every shot.

Although, if it hadn't been for Washington's marvelous Perform check which granted the whole side Morale bonuses to Attack and Damage, they'd probably not have survived that last battle.

chiasaur11
2009-02-10, 08:17 PM
That and the Americans found out that Crossbow Sniper could be applied to muskets, so they could apply their precision-based damage from the dip of Scout to every shot.

Although, if it hadn't been for Washington's marvelous Perform check which granted the whole side Morale bonuses to Attack and Damage, they'd probably not have survived that last battle.

In retrospect, it wasn't the best idea for the British to let Washington use his "Lucky dice".

ShneekeyTheLost
2009-02-10, 08:36 PM
In retrospect, it wasn't the best idea for the British to let Washington use his "Lucky dice".

Hey, he used a perfectly legitimate rules 'sploit to defeat an encounter at LEAST CR 4+ higher than his level...

Knaight
2009-02-10, 09:07 PM
Plus the British forgot that you gain a bonus against ranged attacks while prone, so they were all easier to hit. Still, Summon French VII was the deciding factor.

chiasaur11
2009-02-10, 09:31 PM
Plus the British forgot that you gain a bonus against ranged attacks while prone, so they were all easier to hit. Still, Summon French VII was the deciding factor.

I thought it was Sgt. Rock.

I mean, sure letting Frank take his sheet from the WW2 campaign for a battle was a little... questionable, but it worked.

Eighth_Seraph
2009-02-10, 09:45 PM
Edition Wars and Nerd Rage destroyed Rome.

Ceasar died because he was a crappy DM.

Sigged!

There's other sig gold in this thread, but it would take too long to explain.

Thane of Fife
2009-02-10, 10:01 PM
I believe that you've just solved archaeology:


http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k155/dragonlordmax/CaveComic.jpg

Shraik
2009-02-10, 10:13 PM
No, Ceasar died because he played like a n00b.

Actually, it was because he was a bad DM. The Entire Room got pissed at him for a bad choice, and they all got up and stabbed him. Even the paladin, Brutus. LEading him to question "Et Tu Brute?"

Falconer
2009-02-10, 10:42 PM
This means that the Spanish didn't defeat the Aztecs because of disease, or gunpowder, or steel, or creating revolution within the subject tribes....


It was because Cortez was a munchkin.

KKL
2009-02-10, 10:49 PM
This means that the Spanish didn't defeat the Aztecs because of disease, or gunpowder, or steel, or creating revolution within the subject tribes....


It was because Cortez was a munchkin.

Cortez thunk outside of the box and was a reasonable minmaxer. The Aztecs were too focused on roleplaying to reach his level of min/max.

Weiser_Cain
2009-02-10, 10:53 PM
And now that it's become a bit offensive to me I shall take my leave.

Sstoopidtallkid
2009-02-10, 10:56 PM
And now that it's become a bit offensive to me I shall take my leave.Mind if I ask why? It's only that I'd like to avoid the error in the future.

chiasaur11
2009-02-10, 11:05 PM
Actually, it was because he was a bad DM. The Entire Room got pissed at him for a bad choice, and they all got up and stabbed him. Even the paladin, Brutus. LEading him to question "Et Tu Brute?"

The Pally?

The Paladin is always the first to stab the DM!

Ascension
2009-02-10, 11:06 PM
The Paladin is always the first to stab the DM!

DMs are Usually Chaotic Evil. That's when they aren't Lawful Evil. :smallbiggrin:

Some speak of Neutral Evil DMs, but we all know they're just urban legends.

Rettu Skcollob
2009-02-11, 02:54 AM
Caesar probably shouldn't have spent so much time in the Kitchen as well. (Which, by the way, had a fantastic Cisalpine finish) Most of the other players, (With two notable exceptions...) were beginning to get upset pretty early on.

JackMage666
2009-02-11, 03:06 AM
Man, I'm just glad that they fixed Fighters when they upgrade from Greek to Roman. I mean, the Spartans were so broken, it's not even funny.

Though, some people still play the plotline of it all, they just had to call it Forgotten Realms...

KKL
2009-02-11, 03:59 AM
Man, I'm just glad that they fixed Fighters when they upgrade from Greek to Roman. I mean, the Spartans were so broken, it's not even funny.

Though, some people still play the plotline of it all, they just had to call it Forgotten Realms...

Spartans are overrated.

Ascension
2009-02-11, 05:38 AM
Man, I'm just glad that they fixed Fighters when they upgrade from Greek to Roman. I mean, the Spartans were so broken, it's not even funny.

But then Marius cheesed out (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Reforms) the Roman army and threw balance out the window again.

Arros Winhadren
2009-02-11, 05:49 AM
By far the most epic use of D&D prior to Pun-Pun was when that cleric of St. Cuthbert gained so much knowledge that he realized he was in a game, and then manifested his god in the mortal realm. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Cuthbert)

That's some devotion to your deity right there.

Zenos
2009-02-11, 06:03 AM
The 100 Years war was won because the French lacked Longbow profeciency and spent too much time reloading crossbows.

This thread is epic.

Actually the French won the 100 years war. Although it took a long time since they were really bad at using the difficult terrain rules.

Ascension
2009-02-11, 06:06 AM
By far the most epic use of D&D prior to Pun-Pun was when that cleric of St. Cuthbert gained so much knowledge that he realized he was in a game, and then manifested his god in the mortal realm. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Cuthbert)

Holy crap, Jack Chick was right! D&D magic is real! (sorta)