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Darth Stabber
2009-02-10, 02:54 PM
I am ditching my previously held ideas about what the next character that I play will be and putting my thoughts and effort behind this thought: Soulcaster. Now what is the best way to go about doing this build.

Build mark I:
Human Wizard(Generalist)3/Incarnate(Chaos)3/SoulCasterX
Str10 Dex 12 Con14 Int 17 Wis 12 Cha 10
Feats: Scribe scroll, Quicken Spell, Empower spell, Midnight Metamagic, Bonus Essentia, Practiced Caster, Thesis Spell(enervation), and more metamagic out from there.


Downsides over Straight Wizard - Lose 3 caster levels to Incarnate

Upsides - Meldshaping, Save DC increasing abilities, Better Midnight metamagic

Not as good as IotSFV or Incantatrix, but I think that I will be able to hold my own after a while, Just 3 caster lvls hurts, and Unless there is another arcanist in the party i can't specialize (except maybe div ban evo) or miss out on some prime stuff.

Any thoughts????

Starbuck_II
2009-02-10, 03:02 PM
I am ditching my previously held ideas about what the next character that I play will be and putting my thoughts and effort behind this thought: Soulcaster. Now what is the best way to go about doing this build.

Build mark I:
Human Wizard(Generalist)3/Incarnate(Chaos)3/SoulCasterX
Str10 Dex 12 Con14 Int 17 Wis 12 Cha 10
Feats: Scribe scroll, Quicken Spell, Empower spell, Midnight Metamagic, Bonus Essentia, Practiced Caster, Thesis Spell(enervation), and more metamagic out from there.


Downsides over Straight Wizard - Lose 3 caster levels to Incarnate

Upsides - Meldshaping, Save DC increasing abilities, Better Midnight metamagic

Not as good as IotSFV or Incantatrix, but I think that I will be able to hold my own after a while, Just 3 caster lvls hurts, and Unless there is another arcanist in the party i can't specialize (except maybe div ban evo) or miss out on some prime stuff.

Any thoughts????

You take Precious Spellcaster to qualify as 2nd level spells instead of 2 more levels of wizard.
You have a higher Soul Caster level (which if it progresses caster progression) will make you less behind.

Darth Stabber
2009-02-10, 10:42 PM
What about a less cheesey way to do it. Besided the PRC specifically says LVL 2 Spells, Precocious apprentic gives you 1. That and the feat is some serious cheese when it comes to prc'ing especially gishing.

Draz74
2009-02-11, 01:39 AM
You can qualify for Soulcaster with 2 Incarnate levels. That's without even a Shape Soulmeld or Open Chakra feat.

Is losing a 3rd caster level really worth the Expanded Capacity class feature?

monty
2009-02-11, 01:42 AM
What about a less cheesey way to do it. Besided the PRC specifically says LVL 2 Spells, Precocious apprentic gives you 1. That and the feat is some serious cheese when it comes to prc'ing especially gishing.

Maybe we should just avoid this argument, and say it's up to the DM.

Darth Stabber
2009-02-11, 11:13 AM
^Good call. For the time being we are assuming the GM would not allow the cheesyness. I read over the requirements again, it requires 3rd lvl spells, 6 ranks in knowledge(arcana), incarnum spellcasting(not midnight metamagic like i thought), ability to shape 3 soulmelds and bind a soulmeld to a chakra(gained @third lvl). it seems the faster rout is wizard3/incarnate 1, I don't even need incarnate lvl 2. Wizard 3/incarnate 1, 3 feats, and 6 skill points does it. And the whole build only loses 1 caster lvl. and if, for Shape soulmeld, I choose a totemist meld, there isn't even a redundancy. Although open least chakra is still redundant in the long run, but what ever.

So Build Mark II
Human
Wizard(specialist in something) 3/Incarnate(good or chaotic)1/soulcasterX
Feats:Incarnum Spellcasting, Shape soulmeld, Open least Chakra, bonus essentia, Quicken spell, Midnight metamagic, empower spell, and so forth

You know what I just realized, Totemist meets the meldshaper requirements faster than Incarnate, because their totem chakra opens @ lvl2, as opposed to Incarnates crown chakra opening @ 3. But when splurging feat on it, incarnate gets more essentia (Incarnate20 = 26 essentia, Totemist20 = 20 essentia), so the game swings in its favor when you burn feats. Now if only I could work Psion, and cleric into the build, quadruple gish for the win.