Dyllan
2009-02-10, 04:49 PM
Alright, the original Supermount combined Paladin Mount abilities with Druid Animal Companion abilities via the Devoted Tracker feat and the Halfling Outrider PrC to make a truly impressive mount.
What I've done is take it one step further. Using the Devoted Tracker feat, Kobold Sorcerer casting cheese, and the Arcane Heirophant prestige class, I've added Familiar advancement to the list:
One known issue: experience penalties. We never play with them, but this build would run afoul of them. There must be a way to avoid that, but I haven't really tried since we don't use them.
Edit: Rebuilt it from the ground up, because I totally forgot about alignment restrictions. Also, added stats for the mount... they're insane.
Earth Kobold
1 Anarch (NG Paladin, Dragon Magazine #310) 1 - Dragonwrought Kobold
2 Anarch 2
3 Anarch 3 - Draconic Rite of Passage, Track
4 Anarch 4 -
5 Anarch 5 -
6 Druid 1 - Devoted Tracker
7 Druid 2
8 Druid 3
9 Beastmaster 1 - Draconic Resevoir
10 Sorcerer 1 - Loredrake, Greater Draconic Rite of Passage
11 Arcane Hierophant 1
12 Arcane Hierophant 2 - Theurgic Mount
13 Arcane Hierophant 3
14 Arcane Hierophant 4
15 Arcane Hierophant 5 - Theurgic Bond (Familiar)
16 Arcane Hierophant 6
17 Arcane Hierophant 7
18 Arcane Hierophant 8 - Theurgic Bond (Companion)
19 Arcane Hierophant 9
20 Arcane Hierophant 10
Alright, here's how it works.
Anarch is a NG Paladin variant - allowing us to take levels in both Paladin and Druid.
Dragonwrought Kobold makes him a dragon. Draconic Rite of Passage is free to Kobolds (though they lose 1 to max HP). It, and Draconic Resevoir are prerequisites for Greater Draconic Rite of Passage. That is also free (they lose 3 max hp) and grants 1 extra level of sorcerer spellcasting. Loredrake is a dragon only substitution level that grants 2 extra levels of sorcerer spellcasting. End result, casting as a level 4 Sorcerer at character level 10 - this gets us into Arcane Hierorphant.
Our level of Beastmaster meants we're treated as a druid 4 levels higher for animal companion purposes.
Track is a prerequisite for Devoted Tracker, which allows us to apply animal companion advancement to our special mount.
Theurgic Mount lets us stack our levels in arcane spellcasting with our paladin levels for mount advancement - total of 19 by level 20.
Theurgic Bond lets us stack our levels in classes giving animal companions with our classes giving animal companions. We take that once for the companion and once for the familiar.
Arcane Hierophant lets us apply our familiar advancement to our animal companion, which is our mount.
End result, we have a mount that gets the advancement of a level 18 paladin mount, a level 21 animal companion and a level 21 familiar.
We end with a BAB of +15 - yes, one short of the fourth iterive attack. Unless your DM uses the partial BAB rules, in which case we have 16.25 BAB and get that attack.
The ability to cast Druid spells as a level 13 druid (level 7 spells) and Sorcerer spells as a level 14 Sorcerer (also level 7 spells).
Here's an example of how the mount could look. I used a Dragonnel, as it seems to fit the theme well.
This cost 4 levels of Paladin for Mount advancement, but that still leaves us at 15, giving us the full bonus:
Dragonnel
Large Dragon
Hit Dice: 26D12 + 26 (195)
Initiative: +5
Speed: 50 ft (10 squares), fly 100 ft (average)
Armor Class: 42 (-1 size, Dex +1, +32 natural) Touch 10, Flat Footed 41
Base Attack/Grapple: 26/
Attack: Bite melee +43 (3d6+21) or claw melee +43 (2d6+12)
Full Attack: Bite melee +43 (3d6+21) and 2 claws melee +43 (2d6+12)
Space/Reach: 10 ft/5 ft
Special Attacks: Roar, Deliver Touch Spells, Command Dragons
Special Qualitites: Darkvision 60 ft, immunity to magic sleep effects and paralysis, low-light vision, scent, Spell Resistance 26, Link, Share Spells, Evasion, Devotion, Improved Evasion, Empathic Link, Speak With Master, Speak With Dragons, Scry on Familiar, Share Saving Throws
Saves: Fort +16 Ref +19 Will +16
Abilities: Str 34, Dex 19, Con 12, Int 15, Wis 12, Cha 10
Skills: Hide, Listen, Move Silently, Spot
Feats: Multiattack, Ability Focus (Roar), Alertness, Improved Initiative, Draconic Aura: Power (+4 to melee damage rolls), Improved Natural Attack (Bite), Improved Natural Attack (Claw), Power Attack, Flyby Attack, Hover, Improved Multiattack
So, how would the mount stand up against some optimized level 20 melee characters (non casters), do you think?
Also, if the DM allowed it, you could probably take some alternate class features for Improved Evasion for the mount, as you get it 3 times.
What I've done is take it one step further. Using the Devoted Tracker feat, Kobold Sorcerer casting cheese, and the Arcane Heirophant prestige class, I've added Familiar advancement to the list:
One known issue: experience penalties. We never play with them, but this build would run afoul of them. There must be a way to avoid that, but I haven't really tried since we don't use them.
Edit: Rebuilt it from the ground up, because I totally forgot about alignment restrictions. Also, added stats for the mount... they're insane.
Earth Kobold
1 Anarch (NG Paladin, Dragon Magazine #310) 1 - Dragonwrought Kobold
2 Anarch 2
3 Anarch 3 - Draconic Rite of Passage, Track
4 Anarch 4 -
5 Anarch 5 -
6 Druid 1 - Devoted Tracker
7 Druid 2
8 Druid 3
9 Beastmaster 1 - Draconic Resevoir
10 Sorcerer 1 - Loredrake, Greater Draconic Rite of Passage
11 Arcane Hierophant 1
12 Arcane Hierophant 2 - Theurgic Mount
13 Arcane Hierophant 3
14 Arcane Hierophant 4
15 Arcane Hierophant 5 - Theurgic Bond (Familiar)
16 Arcane Hierophant 6
17 Arcane Hierophant 7
18 Arcane Hierophant 8 - Theurgic Bond (Companion)
19 Arcane Hierophant 9
20 Arcane Hierophant 10
Alright, here's how it works.
Anarch is a NG Paladin variant - allowing us to take levels in both Paladin and Druid.
Dragonwrought Kobold makes him a dragon. Draconic Rite of Passage is free to Kobolds (though they lose 1 to max HP). It, and Draconic Resevoir are prerequisites for Greater Draconic Rite of Passage. That is also free (they lose 3 max hp) and grants 1 extra level of sorcerer spellcasting. Loredrake is a dragon only substitution level that grants 2 extra levels of sorcerer spellcasting. End result, casting as a level 4 Sorcerer at character level 10 - this gets us into Arcane Hierorphant.
Our level of Beastmaster meants we're treated as a druid 4 levels higher for animal companion purposes.
Track is a prerequisite for Devoted Tracker, which allows us to apply animal companion advancement to our special mount.
Theurgic Mount lets us stack our levels in arcane spellcasting with our paladin levels for mount advancement - total of 19 by level 20.
Theurgic Bond lets us stack our levels in classes giving animal companions with our classes giving animal companions. We take that once for the companion and once for the familiar.
Arcane Hierophant lets us apply our familiar advancement to our animal companion, which is our mount.
End result, we have a mount that gets the advancement of a level 18 paladin mount, a level 21 animal companion and a level 21 familiar.
We end with a BAB of +15 - yes, one short of the fourth iterive attack. Unless your DM uses the partial BAB rules, in which case we have 16.25 BAB and get that attack.
The ability to cast Druid spells as a level 13 druid (level 7 spells) and Sorcerer spells as a level 14 Sorcerer (also level 7 spells).
Here's an example of how the mount could look. I used a Dragonnel, as it seems to fit the theme well.
This cost 4 levels of Paladin for Mount advancement, but that still leaves us at 15, giving us the full bonus:
Dragonnel
Large Dragon
Hit Dice: 26D12 + 26 (195)
Initiative: +5
Speed: 50 ft (10 squares), fly 100 ft (average)
Armor Class: 42 (-1 size, Dex +1, +32 natural) Touch 10, Flat Footed 41
Base Attack/Grapple: 26/
Attack: Bite melee +43 (3d6+21) or claw melee +43 (2d6+12)
Full Attack: Bite melee +43 (3d6+21) and 2 claws melee +43 (2d6+12)
Space/Reach: 10 ft/5 ft
Special Attacks: Roar, Deliver Touch Spells, Command Dragons
Special Qualitites: Darkvision 60 ft, immunity to magic sleep effects and paralysis, low-light vision, scent, Spell Resistance 26, Link, Share Spells, Evasion, Devotion, Improved Evasion, Empathic Link, Speak With Master, Speak With Dragons, Scry on Familiar, Share Saving Throws
Saves: Fort +16 Ref +19 Will +16
Abilities: Str 34, Dex 19, Con 12, Int 15, Wis 12, Cha 10
Skills: Hide, Listen, Move Silently, Spot
Feats: Multiattack, Ability Focus (Roar), Alertness, Improved Initiative, Draconic Aura: Power (+4 to melee damage rolls), Improved Natural Attack (Bite), Improved Natural Attack (Claw), Power Attack, Flyby Attack, Hover, Improved Multiattack
So, how would the mount stand up against some optimized level 20 melee characters (non casters), do you think?
Also, if the DM allowed it, you could probably take some alternate class features for Improved Evasion for the mount, as you get it 3 times.