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MichielHagen
2009-02-14, 01:18 PM
Hi,

i am currently building a Transmuter 5 / Paragnostic Apostle 2 / Master Specialist 3.

The one problem i have currently is my Fortitude and reflex saves. They are both only 2 (without adding the ability bonuses since i haven't rolled those yet).
I am planning on using Superior Resistance once i reach level 11, but i wondered what would be a good item or spell to help me in the meanwhile.

The best idea i had so far is Greater Resistance....and a +2 to my DEX and CON.

Any help is appreciated.

Olo Demonsbane
2009-02-14, 02:01 PM
You can get the martial study feat (Tob) to get manuvers from Diamond Mind.

There are manuevers that let you make a Concentration check in place of Fortitude and Reflex.

monty
2009-02-14, 02:19 PM
See if your DM will let you use the fractional save rules. That'll bring your base saves up to +3.

Sstoopidtallkid
2009-02-14, 02:24 PM
You can get the martial study feat (Tob) to get manuvers from Diamond Mind.

There are manuevers that let you make a Concentration check in place of Fortitude and Reflex.+1. It's 2 feats that need to be invested, but they give you a great advantage over trying to boost the saves some other way. If ToB isn't an option, try getting UA material approved. Fractional Saves/BAB is much more reasonable than the current system.
Other than that, see about snagging one of the feats that allows a different ability to apply to saves than the normal one. +2 base Fort doesn't matter when you have a +6 ability mod.

MichielHagen
2009-02-14, 02:43 PM
You can get the martial study feat (Tob) to get manuvers from Diamond Mind.

There are manuevers that let you make a Concentration check in place of Fortitude and Reflex.

Sounds like a good idea, though i am not entirely sure about how it works.

Can i just take the feat twice and take "Action before Thought" and "Mind over Body"?

<edit> now that i think of it. There is this replacement effect in UA that let's me replace "Scribe Scroll" and my 5th lvl Wizard feat for two fighter feats...guess what Martial Study is :D


Other than that, see about snagging one of the feats that allows a different ability to apply to saves than the normal one. +2 base Fort doesn't matter when you have a +6 ability mod.

Can you point me in a direction to find the feat?

Sstoopidtallkid
2009-02-14, 03:20 PM
Insightful Reflexes from CAdv adds Int to Ref.
One level of Factotum adds it to saves, but only a couple times an encounter, and doesn't progress spellcasting.

Unfortunately I can't find any way of doing it for Fort.