Avatar Battle Royale Discussion Thread XIX: To FAIL, or not to FAIL?

[Nameless]

I think that’s the right Roman Numeral, correct me if I’m wrong.

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[chriky]

first post



Yeah I have noting impportant to say i just wanted to post on this shiny new thread.

Also I vote for using FAIL

[Nameless]

What compromise?
And I'm arguing because I'd prefer to have the issue resolved without having to completely ignore your 'arguments'. Clearly, that isn't an option. So far, it's a tie anyways, so you guys will just have to let it go for now. :smallannoyed:

I said that we can use another name, but not a silly acronym.
"The Faild" is even better then "FAIL". It doesn't sound official that way.
It actually sounds like a nick name sort of thing.
"The Terrorists"
"Igons army"
"The Fallen"
"The Evil Ones"

I dunno.



Use FAIL: 3
Not use Fail: 4

[Tiffanie Lirle]

The last thread had an unusually long life span. Also this fail/alf argument is stupid and/or annoying. :smalltongue:

I like the thread's name though.

[chriky]

Use FAIL: 3
Not use Fail: 4

I think there's actually 4 for use FAIL after my last vote.

[Emperor Ing]

What
The
HELL
is
FAIL!?!

[CrimsonAngel]

I vote not fail.

[Nameless]

I think there's actually 4 for use FAIL after my last vote.

I counted three votes. :smallconfused:


What
The
HELL
is
FAIL!?!

Another acronym some people want to use for ALF.




FAIL- 3
Not FAIL- 5

[Emperor Ing]

i'll vote in favor of FAIL then

[VampireRot]

I vote in favor of fail!

[Keris]

I counted three votes. :smallconfused:

Then I advise you recount carefully, and stay in school.

{table=head]For including FAIL|Against including FAIL|Abstain
BRC|Lemming|Falgorn
Keveak|CrimsonAngel
The Gremlin|Tired N' Drowzy
chriky|Fayte
The Randomizer|Threeshades
VampireRot|Lyinginbedmon
|Szilard[/table]
And memnarch has decided to vote for whoever's the current underdog, just to make things annoying.

For: 8 (7+1)
Against: 8

[Mad Mask]

Why is there a vote for using FAIL ? I thought we all agreed to make it the name of a fictional organisation closely modelled on the resistance in some kind of telescreen series.

EDIT: You got the Roman number wrong, it's XIX, not XVIX.

[Keris]

Why is there a vote for using FAIL ? I thought we all agreed to make it the name of a fictional organisation closely modelled on the resistance in some kind of telescreen series.

Which is occasionally used by the public when they refer to ALF, yes.

But Nameless and others have are dead set against using the name at all, and so have called a vote.

[Fay Graydon]

Je vote pour pas l'échouer.
J'aime le nom ALF parce que j'ai monté avec lui !
rire dehors fort!

Daemonic-plane-of-existence yeah!
:smallamused:

(I vote for not Fail for the above reasons...)

[Keris]

We're not getting rid of ALF, that's still the name of the Resistance.
We're voting on whether to include someone's idea of having a fictional counterpart to ALF, called FAIL.

[CrimsonAngel]

I'm gunna make a comic, I just finished my paladin, gremlin, and 3S templates.

[Tiffanie Lirle]

What an absolutely dismal day here, it's sunny, there's a bird singing outside my window and there's just the slightest breeze.. I was hoping it would rain, rainy days are so relaxing.

*Looks out of the window*

Get the hell away you stupid bird!

*throws book at window*
Some generic peace keeper outfits I've been messing with. Stole the coats from Skimmer. :smalltongue:

Open for ideas though, they're pretty bland.http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2474/peacekeepers.png

[Lemming]

Why is there a vote for using FAIL ? I thought we all agreed to make it the name of a fictional organisation closely modelled on the resistance in some kind of telescreen series.

EDIT: You got the Roman number wrong, it's XIX, not XVIX.

I thought the vote was about whether people in real life called ALF FAIL because of a TV show (doesn't sound likely), not whether the show had a joke name. You could call the one in the show IKLEBOOGYCKINS and it wouldn't really matter.

@Tiff: Rain would really suck up here. The snowbanks are nearly a meter and a half high, and last time it rained everything turned to ice.

[Keris]

I thought the vote was about whether people in real life called ALF FAIL because of a TV show (doesn't sound likely), not whether the show had a joke name. You could call the one in the show IKLEBOOGYCKINS and it wouldn't really matter.

The vote is between using FAIL as a euphemism for ALF because of a TV show, and not having FAIL in ABR at all. That's what Nameless proposed, and we went along with it.

[Lemming]

The vote is between using FAIL as a euphemism for ALF because of a TV show, and not having FAIL in ABR at all. That's what Nameless proposed, and we went along with it.

So why can't we just keep it in the TV show and not have normal people call ALF FAIL. Why is it either "No FAIL at all" or "Citizens call ALF FAIL". Where is the mid ground?

[Keris]

So why can't we just keep it in the TV show and not have normal people call ALF FAIL. Why is it either "No FAIL at all" or "Citizens call ALF FAIL". Where is the mid ground?

Well, considering that the original idea was "Everyone calls ALF FAIL as a joke", this is the mid-ground. And this vote was Nameless's suggestion, he's trying to force people who don't want FAIL in common use into his "kick it out for good" camp.

[Bayar]

Part 2 of FFF (FI) certainly seems to be kinda FAIL...

...at least that is my humble opinion.

[Shades of Gray]

... Yeah, I've kinda been regretting suggesting FI in the first place... All it has done is made us go through discussion threads faster and slow down the plot...

[Mina Kobold]

... Yeah, I've kinda been regretting suggesting FI in the first place... All it has done is made us go through discussion threads faster and slow down the plot...

I'm remaking my comic so dn't look at me. I say we vote/decide who makes the next comic where the flying team reach the shades and battle them, then who shall make the final comic.

[CrimsonAngel]

I'm remaking my comic so dn't look at me. I say we vote/decide who makes the next comic where the flying team reach the shades and battle them, then who shall make the final comic.

*closes inkscape* nevermind then.

[kpenguin]

... Yeah, I've kinda been regretting suggesting FI in the first place... All it has done is made us go through discussion threads faster and slow down the plot...

I miss the days when we just made up stuff as we went along.

[Shades of Gray]

Out of curiosity, why does your Rorschach avatar has a green arm? Granted, I've only read 1/3 of the book so far, so if it's a spoiler don't tell me.

[Bayar]

I miss the days when we just made up stuff as we went along.

Yup, those were the days.

[Lemming]

Well, considering that the original idea was "Everyone calls ALF FAIL as a joke", this is the mid-ground. And this vote was Nameless's suggestion, he's trying to force people who don't want FAIL in common use into his "kick it out for good" camp.

Okay, then, uh, "Where's the not-so-mid-ground? The mid-ground of the mid-ground?" But why is Gremlin so dead-set on using it?

[chriky]

I say we vote/decide who makes the next comic where the flying team reach the shades and battle them, then who shall make the final comic.

No offence, but that's quite a stupid idea. I know ABR has changed a lot since the first ever thread but chosing who makes every single comic is just getting silly.

Also, I'm fed up with people saying the plots going too slow or someone should make a comic because if your that fussed about it why don't you just make one yourself.

[VampireRot]

Is FFF just going to end after we beat the Shades? Because that would be kinda dumb. If our assorted heros know there are 2 powerful enemies, the Shades and Ins, why only kill one then timeskip? Wouldn't it make more sense to kill the Shades, then everyone go try and kill Ins, epic failure, (or win if we don't like F1 anymore :smalltongue:) then the timeskip?

And someone make a comic with the mass fly guys already! Chriky has a point, don't vote who makes it, just make it! (the only reason I'm not making one is because I'm not in that group, I don't have the templates, and I'm not sure who's flying and who's not)

[Keris]

Is FFF just going to end after we beat the Shades? Because that would be kinda dumb. If our assorted heros know there are 2 powerful enemies, the Shades and Ins, why only kill one then timeskip? Wouldn't it make more sense to kill the Shades, then everyone go try and kill Ins, epic failure, (or win if we don't like F1 anymore :smalltongue:) then the timeskip?

We're going to beat the Shades, and then notice that the UNA has been formed while our backs were turned. Then Igon vows to stop Ins's foul plan, forms ALF, and cue timeskip.

[-skimmer-]

Because I was bored, I tried to improve my art a bit..well, this is what happened:smallredface:

Ghost of transmutation (Ironmancer/telekinesis thingy):
http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv155/skimmer21/GhostofTransmutation.png

Ghost of necromancy:
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Ghost of evocation:
http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv155/skimmer21/ghostofevocation.png
I dont like how I draw her, but now I know how to draw fire:smallsmile:

Ghost of conjuration:
http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv155/skimmer21/Ghostofconjuration.png

Do whatever you want with it...

Also, I am not going to vote for "Use FAIL" or "Not use FAIL", Its completely irrelevant right now...

[Mad Mask]

Is FFF just going to end after we beat the Shades? Because that would be kinda dumb. If our assorted heros know there are 2 powerful enemies, the Shades and Ins, why only kill one then timeskip? Wouldn't it make more sense to kill the Shades, then everyone go try and kill Ins, epic failure, (or win if we don't like F1 anymore :smalltongue:) then the timeskip?

And someone make a comic with the mass fly guys already! Chriky has a point, don't vote who makes it, just make it! (the only reason I'm not making one is because I'm not in that group, I don't have the templates, and I'm not sure who's flying and who's not)

OK, I'll do it. :smallsmile:

[memnarch]

... Yeah, I've kinda been regretting suggesting FI in the first place... All it has done is made us go through discussion threads faster and slow down the plot...

Agreed.

I'll vote for the side that has less votes for it.

[CrimsonAngel]

OK, I'll do it. :smallsmile:

Oh... Crap... :smallfrown:

[VampireRot]

Hm, should I go bat form and chase after the plot? Or stay down on the ground floor and chat with the Black Knight/fight the Black Knight/fight the Shades' minions with Keveak and Nameless/fight Keveak and Nameless with the Shades' minions/other??? So many options...

[Nameless]

Then I advise you recount carefully, and stay in school.

{table=head]For including FAIL|Against including FAIL
Keris Rain|Namless
BRC|Falgorn
Keveak|Lemming
The Gremlin|CrimsonAngel
chriky|Tired N' Drowzy
The Randomizer|Fayte
VampireRot|[/table]

For: 7
Against: 6

Technically Gremlin didn't say "I vote for FAIL" :smalltongue:


We're not getting rid of ALF, that's still the name of the Resistance.
We're voting on whether to include someone's idea of having a fictional counterpart to ALF, called FAIL.

I don't see why we can't just use one of the other names I suggested or something similar that's not an acronym.

[Falgorn]

Will I be included in said big bad fight? I can't make myself come for 2 reasons: 1: I'm not so great at artwork. 2: Even if I was a good artist, I'm at my friend's house. 3: I'm not sure what to make.
... Ewps. There's three. :smallredface:

[Shades of Gray]

@Skimmer, looks good. Consider keeping a consistent or at least thicker line thickness for the... lines and their... thickness. I might use the conjuration and transmutation one, but the others I have their designs set. As necromancy is going to be important...

[Keris]

Technically Gremlin didn't say "I vote for FAIL" :smalltongue:
No, technically he said:

Put in another vote for 'use FAIL'.
And yeah, I can totally see how you might not have understood that.

[Nameless]

No, technically he said:

And yeah, I can totally see how you might not have understood that.

So I missed out on it, no need to get rude.

[VampireRot]

@Skimmer, looks good. Consider keeping a consistent or at least thicker line thickness for the... lines and their... thickness. I might use the conjuration and transmutation one, but the others I have their designs set. As necromancy is going to be important...

Necromancy is going to be important?! Hmmm.. I'm wondering if this will go favorably for the undead or unfavorably. Cause it would be cool for Vampire Rot to have some buddies, but I wouldn't like a Control Undead (http://ddo.mmodb.com/spells/control-undead-398.php) thrown at me. :smalleek:

[Falgorn]

Can I change my vote? To neither? I've been thinking, and I haven't really heard of a terrorist organization that uses an acronym, but the terrorist organizations I know aren't spoken by the english language.

[chriky]

I've got two things to say.

Firstly I thought only a small group of main characters and people who have a particularly good reason would be fighting the big bad shades, but now it seems everyone is attacking them.

Secondly I have a new character for FI

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff266/Hpandy_Johnston/Chriky/ficharacter.png

Josh Curshaw, 16, Human
Josh is an orphan who has been looked after by UNA for most of his life. His parents were big supporters of the resistance and when he was 5 they parents were murdered by UNA for looking after a high-ranking member of the resistance. Josh was oblivious to his parents working with the resistance and when he was told the resistance killed his parents he didn't think otherwise. When he turned 16 he was immediately accepted as a trainee peacekeeper and is currently half way through being trained by tiffanie's character. (I can't find what she's called).

[Bayar]

Can I change my vote? To neither? I've been thinking, and I haven't really heard of a terrorist organization that uses an acronym, but the terrorist organizations I know aren't spoken by the english language.

You never heard of FEAR ? The terrorist organisation that wanted to kill Birdman ?

:sigh: Cartoons these days.

[Shades of Gray]

Necromancy is going to be important?! Hmmm.. I'm wondering if this will go favorably for the undead or unfavorably. Cause it would be cool for Vampire Rot to have some buddies, but I wouldn't like a Control Undead (http://ddo.mmodb.com/spells/control-undead-398.php) thrown at me. :smalleek:

Important plot wise. Nothing control-undeady, he mostly uses random debuffs. He doesn't usually summon stuff, just make stuff useless.

[Nameless]

Can I change my vote? To neither? I've been thinking, and I haven't really heard of a terrorist organization that uses an acronym, but the terrorist organizations I know aren't spoken by the english language.

We're not useing niether, ALF will deffinetly be used, FAIL is just another name given to it which some of us don't want to use.

[VampireRot]

Important plot wise. Nothing control-undeady, he mostly uses random debuffs. He doesn't usually summon stuff, just make stuff useless.

Hmph, pretty boring necromancer :smallannoyed:. If you need Daniel Enthol, he'll be in ur graveyard animatin' ur dead. :smallamused:

[Shades of Gray]

Hmph, pretty boring necromancer :smallannoyed:.

ORLY?
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa279/oliver426/g20719.png

Seems pretty badass to me.

[Threeshades]

I vote against FAIL :smallsigh:

[VampireRot]

ORLY?
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa279/oliver426/g20719.png

Seems pretty badass to me.

I see ur picture and raise you a caption!

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss354/VampireRot/Iminurgraveyardanimatinurdead.png

[Mina Kobold]

@Chriky: It worked. Mad Mask is doing it now wich fits with my intention with the vote thingy (everybody meat wsomeone else should do it but now someone actally do it) But sorry anyway:smallfrown:


What spell/effect is the one laying down under Shades of Gray? It looks cool.:smallsmile:

[Shades of Gray]

Horrid Wilting I think... dunno, homebrew maybe...

[CrimsonAngel]

@Chriky: It worked. Mad Mask is doing it now wich fits with my intention with the vote thingy (everybody meat wsomeone else should do it but now someone actally do it) But sorry anyway:smallfrown:


What spell/effect is the one laying down under Shades of Gray? It looks cool.:smallsmile:

Just about everyone is up off the ground except the black gaurd dude and Rot. (Also the ones in the cave and I think some that were off screen.)

[VampireRot]

Just about everyone is up off the ground except the black gaurd dude and Rot. (Also the ones in the cave and I think some that were off screen.)

Vampire Rot, Yeril's Black Knight, Falgorn, Skimmer, and Malfunctioned are on the ground outside the hive. Nameless and Keveak are on the ground floor of the hive fighting minions. Lemming is disguised as part of the NPC team (I'm not sure where or who they are). Everyone else is flying up to fight the Shades.

[CrimsonAngel]

I leaft you to die! >:D

[VampireRot]

I leaft you to die! >:D

But I'm a Vampire... I'm already dead. :smallamused:

[Shades of Gray]

Nuh-uh, I'm not shades fighting. I am not "everybody else"

[VampireRot]

Nuh-uh, I'm not shades fighting. I am not "everybody else"

Do you even have a charecter on the island?

[Nameless]

Do you even have a charecter on the island?

'course he does, everyone loves ol' shades. :smallsmile:

[VampireRot]

'course he does, everyone loves ol' shades. :smallsmile:

Who? Where? Why? Frogs?

[Shades of Gray]

... Yes. Yes I do.

This feller.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa279/oliver426/g22560-1.png

Current incarnation on the right. I was just comparing my art and proportion upgrade.

[VampireRot]

... Yes. Yes I do.

This feller.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa279/oliver426/g22560-1.png

Current incarnation on the right. I was just comparing my art and proportion upgrade.

Who? Where? Why? Frogs?

EDIT:
Grr, Illustrator is eating so much memory with my fancy graphics, so I can't make this comic much longer without making my program crash. So, here it is:

http://www.kinogo.com/victor/fff29.png

Ahh, hes going with the mass fly spell

[Nameless]

MM, did I ever tell you how awesome your Oots are? :smalltongue:

[Mad Mask]

The people that are attacking the Big Bad Shades: Almighty Salmon, Threeshades, Leroy, Igon Minoblendy, Mechafox, Chriky, Firedrake, Stephen Mask, Nameless (although he may want to fight the minions), Eita, CrimsonAngel, Q and Q (although they are already in the fortress, so they must arrive by an other way than Mass Fly).


MM, did I ever tell you how awesome your Oots are? :smalltongue:

Why, thank you lad.

[Keris]

Why, thank you lad.

Respect your elders! *Thwacks upside the head*

[T-O-E]

Out of curiosity, why does your Rorschach avatar has a green arm? Granted, I've only read 1/3 of the book so far, so if it's a spoiler don't tell me.

Also wondering.

[Mad Mask]

Respect your elders! *Thwacks upside the head*

Nameless as an elder... what a funny thought.

[Nameless]

Nameless as an elder... what a funny thought.

I r m4n O_e

[Shades of Gray]

Ahh, hes going with the mass fly spell

I'z is not.

[The Gremlin]

Technically Gremlin didn't say "I vote for FAIL" :smalltongue:



I don't see why we can't just use one of the other names I suggested or something similar that's not an acronym.

Okay, I'm gonna make a few things clear:
The name started as a joke, where the hero in that show said to the wicked Igon Minoblendy something like 'Your organization isn't a success, pal. It's a FAILure'. A bunch of people thought it was kinda funny, and so started referring to the ALF as FAIL. It isn't universal, but it is used occasionally. Especially in jokes.
So that is why it needs to be that name, because otherwise it never would have originated.
/\Neither am I. I'm going to help Nameless and Kev.

[Nameless]

Okay, I'm gonna make a few things clear:
The name started as a joke, where the hero in that show said to the wicked Igon Minoblendy something like 'Your organization isn't a success, pal. It's a FAILure'. A bunch of people thought it was kinda funny, and so started referring to the ALF as FAIL. It isn't universal, but it is used occasionally. Especially in jokes.
So that is why it needs to be that name, because otherwise it never would have originated.
/\Neither am I. I'm going to help Nameless and Kev.

But people making a joke out of a group of people that go around killing people seems extreamly unrealistic, even for ABR. I just don't see it.

[Mad Mask]

But people making a joke out of a group of people that go around killing people seems extreamly unrealistic, even for ABR. I just don't see it.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition !

It did kill people, and yet some make jokes about it.

[The Gremlin]

But people making a joke out of a group of people that go around killing people seems extreamly unrealistic, even for ABR. I just don't see it.

Okay, let's make a comparison, alright?
Now, for this comparison, let's go back to the Revolutionary War of America. Around the beginning. Now, the British are very annoyed with us, but don't see us as much of a threat, because they vastly outnumber us and have tons of Sovice chips. :smallwink:
It is perfectly possible that some British folk referred to the rebels by an insulting name. SOME, not ALL, but it is possible that they would mock them. Possibly mocking us in a way related to Yankee Doodle, or something. I'm not good with history. But my point still stands. If they don't see us as a terrible threat, more as an annoyance, they might call us 'FAIL'. Especially if it came from a popular TV show.

[Nameless]

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition !

It did kill people, and yet some make jokes about it.

The difference is is that the ALF are doing it now, not a hundreds of years ago.
People didn't make jokes about it when it was happening.


Okay, let's make a comparison, alright?
Now, for this comparison, let's go back to the Revolutionary War of America. Around the beginning. Now, the British are very annoyed with us, but don't see us as much of a threat, because they vastly outnumber us and have tons of Sovice chips.
It is perfectly possible that some British folk referred to the rebels by an insulting name. SOME, not ALL, but it is possible that they would mock them. Possibly mocking us in a way related to Yankee Doodle, or something. I'm not good with history. But my point still stands. If they don't see us as a terrible threat, more as an annoyance, they might call us 'FAIL'. Especially if it came from a popular TV show.

True, but the difference is is that those are two countries against one another, it was good for moral.
This is a nation against a terrorist group. I don't have to give you examples of terrorist groups, and do we have a popular joke about them? Or a joke name for any of them?


Respect your elders! *Thwacks upside the head*

Even Keris say's so. :smalltongue:

[The Gremlin]

The difference is is that the ALF are doing it now, not a hundreds of years ago.
People didn't make jokes about it when it was happening.



True, but the difference is is that those are two countries against one another, it was good for moral.
This is a nation against a terrorist group. I don't have to give you examples of terrorist groups, and do we have a popular joke about them? Or a joke name for any of them?

This is good for moral, as well.
These terrorist groups you speak of are real threats. The ALF is a minor annoyance. It can do some damage, but it cannot win. It is up against enormous numbers. It is up against incredible technology. It is, in short, up against Avbaroy.
Also, not many of the victim governments being attacked by these terrorists you speak of have Them on their side. :smallamused:

[Nameless]

This is good for moral, as well.
These terrorist groups you speak of are real threats. The ALF is a minor annoyance. It can do some damage, but it cannot win. It is up against enormous numbers. It is up against incredible technology. It is, in short, up against Avbaroy.
Also, not many of the victim governments being attacked by these terrorists you speak of have Them on their side. :smallamused:

The ALF are just as much, if not more or a threat then lets say Hezbollah is.
And those were jokes made at a country, we see those throughout history, not at a group of terrorists.

[Lyinginbedmon]

I vote against FAIL


I also vote to end this stupid argument.

[Nameless]

Either not-FAIL is winning or it's a tie, I'm not sure what Falgorn ended up voting for.

[Keris]

The ALF are just as much, if not more or a threat then lets say Hezbollah is.

Not according to Them. They tell the population that ALF is just a minor, but persistent, threat, and people believe Them, as they have no reason not to.


Either not-FAIL is winning or it's a tie, I'm not sure what Lemming ended up voting for.

It's currently a tie at 7:7.

[The Gremlin]

The ALF are just as much, if not more or a threat then lets say Hezbollah is.
And those were jokes made at a country, we see those throughout history, not at a group of terrorists.

Wait a minute, here. The ALF is fairly strong, and against a single country, yes, it might be a threat. But the ALF is against a CONTINENT, which has superior technology, superior numbers, superior defenses, and superior morale. Superior in every way. It is quite easy for at least a few to joke about that.

[CrimsonAngel]

HA! We have the reaper, a few tieflings, guinoids, pikalites, a butt load of monsters, and a bunch of epic spell casters. Not to mention the other epic level classes, like 3S. And my widdle Ami will get her miniature otter army to gnaw their eyes out. *proud of Ami*

[Shades of Gray]

Epic Swordsage right here... With a motorcycle.

[The Gremlin]

HA! We have the reaper, a few tieflings, guinoids, pikalites, a butt load of monsters, and a bunch of epic spell casters. Not to mention the other epic level classes, like 3S. And my widdle Ami will get her miniature otter army to gnaw their eyes out. *proud of Ami*

Actually, to my knowledge, Lying is the only epic guy. And you forgot Salmon (understandable, seeing as he hardly ever posts here).
/\ Sigh...:smallannoyed:

[Lemming]

I also vote to end this stupid argument.

Hear, hear!
So what are the NPCs (and me) doing? Are we more cannon fodder to distract the Spawn?

[Shades of Gray]

Actually, to my knowledge, Lying is the only epic guy. And you forgot Salmon (understandable, seeing as he hardly ever posts here).
/\ Sigh...:smallannoyed:

Hey. What? He's just as old as Lyinginbedmon, subtracting one month of course. You do not go around the planes for ~600 years and not get into fights.

[The Gremlin]

Hear, hear!
So what are the NPCs (and me) doing? Are we more cannon fodder to distract the Spawn?

Sure! C'mon, guys! Let's toss in the Newbies!
Heh, that reminds me. I just watched the LotR last night (they...left out...BOMBADIL... *choke*), and when I watched the Siege of Helm's Deep, I kept looking at the old guys and young and all and thinking, 'hey, they shouldn't be put to waste. Let's strap some suicide vests to 'em! Or just toss 'em into the catapults!'
:smalltongue:
Also, did anybody ever notice that when Sam and Frodo are brought to the Tower nearby Mordor, that didn't happen in the book? I ask this because Sam says at some point, 'By rights we shouldn't even be here!', which made us all crack up.
Okay, I'm done babbling.

[Lemming]

Sure! C'mon, guys! Let's toss in the Newbies!
Heh, that reminds me. I just watched the LotR last night (they...left out...BOMBADIL... *choke*), and when I watched the Siege of Helm's Deep, I kept looking at the old guys and young and all and thinking, 'hey, they shouldn't be put to waste. Let's strap some suicide vests to 'em! Or just toss 'em into the catapults!'
:smalltongue:
Also, did anybody ever notice that when Sam and Frodo are brought to the Tower nearby Mordor, that didn't happen in the book? I ask this because Sam says at some point, 'By rights we shouldn't even be here!', which made us all crack up.
Okay, I'm done babbling.

I'm too young to die! Or be turned into shade spawn I guess...
...The tower near Mordor? Do you mean the time when Frodo was paralyzed by Shelob and brought to the guard tower, and the Sam had to go rescue him? Cause that happened in the book.

[Keris]

(they...left out...BOMBADIL... *choke*)
I know. They left out so much...

'hey, they shouldn't be put to waste. Let's strap some suicide vests to 'em! Or just toss 'em into the catapults!'
One old guy in a fortified position could take out more orcs than a flailing human missile. Using corpses on the other hand...

Also, did anybody ever notice that when Sam and Frodo are brought to the Tower nearby Mordor, that didn't happen in the book? I ask this because Sam says at some point, 'By rights we shouldn't even be here!', which made us all crack up.

That was in the book, unless my memory is completely gone. But I'm fairly sure it happened.

[Mina Kobold]

Hey. What? He's just as old as Lyinginbedmon, subtracting one month of course. You do not go around the planes for ~600 years and not get into fights.

I asume You don't go by DnD rules on that one. Besides you're right, he's totally an epic badass:smallbiggrin: (Oliver is cool)

[Shades of Gray]

Oliver is an epic swordsage who uses a homebrew discipline. So not entirely by DnD rules...

...

And he's got a motorcycle!

[Lemming]

Amen. AAAAAAAAAAAAAA(I needed more characters. Stupid minimum length)

[Nameless]

Wait a minute, here. The ALF is fairly strong, and against a single country, yes, it might be a threat. But the ALF is against a CONTINENT, which has superior technology, superior numbers, superior defenses, and superior morale. Superior in every way. It is quite easy for at least a few to joke about that.

And Hezbollah are practically against the whole world, we don't make jokes about them just because they're not as superior.

[The Gremlin]

I'm too young to die! Or be turned into shade spawn I guess...
...The tower near Mordor? Do you mean the time when Frodo was paralyzed by Shelob and brought to the guard tower, and the Sam had to go rescue him? Cause that happened in the book.

Nah, when Faramir takes them to a city. The tower you're thinking of is in Mordor.

[Mina Kobold]

Oliver is an epic swordsage who uses a homebrew discipline. So not entirely by DnD rules...

...

And he's got a motorcycle!

I meant the not aging thing. And motorcycles are cool but not as cool as MAGIC


I know. They left out so much...

One old guy in a fortified position could take out more orcs than a flailing human missile. Using corpses on the other hand...


That was in the book, unless my memory is completely gone. But I'm fairly sure it happened.

It did happen in the book.

[Nameless]

Actually, to my knowledge, Lying is the only epic guy. And you forgot Salmon (understandable, seeing as he hardly ever posts here).
/\ Sigh...

Epic level here.
Not to mention our awesome army and the Citidel. We might be smaller but we're very advanced.

[Shades of Gray]

I meant the not aging thing. And motorcycles are cool but not as cool as MAGIC


That's racial. Gray's stop maturing at age... stop growing. And it's a magic motorcycle. Not really.

[The Gremlin]

I meant the not aging thing. And motorcycles are cool but not as cool as MAGIC



It did happen in the book.

No, it was more of a city. They were brought there unwillingly by Faramir, then attacked by Nazgul.

[Mad Mask]

Wait a minute, here. The ALF is fairly strong, and against a single country, yes, it might be a threat. But the ALF is against a CONTINENT, which has superior technology, superior numbers, superior defenses, and superior morale. Superior in every way. It is quite easy for at least a few to joke about that.

Not a continent, all of know Avbaroy.


HA! We have the reaper, a few tieflings, guinoids, pikalites, a butt load of monsters, and a bunch of epic spell casters. Not to mention the other epic level classes, like 3S. And my widdle Ami will get her miniature otter army to gnaw their eyes out. *proud of Ami*

You don't have pikalites, these are on the UNA's side. Besides, no amount of physical/magical/whatever power is going to save you from ordnance bombs.


Epic level here.
Not to mention our awesome army and the Citidel. We might be smaller but we're very advanced.

That's a bit of an understatement...


That's racial. Gray's stop maturing at age... stop growing. And it's a magic motorcycle. Not really.

How do they deal with overpopulation ?

[CrimsonAngel]

Not a continent, all of know Avbaroy.



You don't have pikalites, these are on the UNA's side. Besides, no amount of physical/magical/whatever power is going to save you from ordnance bombs.


No.... Pikachu.... knockoffs?..... :smallfrown:

[The Gremlin]

Epic level here.
Not to mention our awesome army and the Citidel. We might be smaller but we're very advanced.

If you're talking about the argument:
We have no 'awesome army'. We have a bunch of ragtag resisters, many of whom don't get along. We are not organized, we are not a unit, we are just a bunch of smaller groups technically against the same side.
We are not advanced, either. We have some decent technology, from the Dettas, and a bit of Schizotec stuff. The UNA has Sovice stuff, Schizotec stuff, Pikalite stuff, Salmonville stuff, and Lockutas stuff. Not to mention stuff from the dwarves, elves, orcs, and all those groups.
Ow.

[Shades of Gray]

How do they deal with overpopulation ?

Most of them in the past have been sold into slavery or killed. History has not been kind to Grays. They stop aging at that age, but aren't immortal. They die at age 999 precisely. In addition, most grays tend to... mate with other races. The offspring of Gray usually resemble their non-gray parent more, as the genes of grays aren't very dominant.

[Keris]

No, it was more of a city. They were brought there unwillingly by Faramir, then attacked by Nazgul.

They went to Henneth Annûn, but I think you're thinking of Osgiliath. They decided that Frodo and Sam needed more opposition in their quest, primarily to delay then, and make the film flow better. David Wenham (who played Faramir) said that the book version was "dramatically dead"

[Mad Mask]

Most of them in the past have been sold into slavery or killed. History has not been kind to Grays. They stop aging at that age, but aren't immortal. They die at age 999 precisely. In addition, most grays tend to... mate with other races. The offspring of Gray usually resemble their non-gray parent more, as the genes of grays aren't very dominant.

How did they originally develop their pseudo-immortality ? I'd wager it's the result of some kind of genetic/magical manipulation, since such a thing does not happen like that in nature.

[Shades of Gray]

Precisely MM. The same way they obtained their poison and acid resistance. Genetic or magic manipulation at the hands of other races. Slaves and test subjects for a while, remember.

[SinisterPenguin]

I'm not sure which side Sinister Penguin should be on in Future Imperfect. Would the ALF or the UNA be more suitable for an evil character?

[The Gremlin]

They went to Henneth Annûn, but I think you're thinking of Osgiliath. They decided that Frodo and Sam needed more opposition in their quest, primarily to delay then, and make the film flow better. David Wenham (who played Faramir) said that the book version was "dramatically dead"

Yeah, it was almost as lame as the whole thing with Frodo leaving Sam. It wasn't even that good a scene, either. The worst crime, however, of the movies was Legolas. He is invincible. He never even got a scratch, because he was their 'awesome super smart pretty boy'. Orlando Bloom ruined that movie. They should have just sent him up against Sauron, because he was unhurtable. He could just jump up to the top of the tower. HE WAS THE DUMBEST THING EVER TO HAPPEN TO THE MOVIES!!! :smallfurious::smallfurious::smallfurious:

[Nameless]

If you're talking about the argument:
We have no 'awesome army'. We have a bunch of ragtag resisters, many of whom don't get along. We are not organized, we are not a unit, we are just a bunch of smaller groups technically against the same side.
We are not advanced, either. We have some decent technology, from the Dettas, and a bit of Schizotec stuff. The UNA has Sovice stuff, Schizotec stuff, Pikalite stuff, Salmonville stuff, and Lockutas stuff. Not to mention stuff from the dwarves, elves, orcs, and all those groups.
Ow.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x203/tomshaer/ALFUnit.png

[The Gremlin]

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x203/tomshaer/ALFUnit.png

What? :smallconfused:

[CrimsonAngel]

What? :smallconfused:

Thoes are the things from the UNA's seemingly endless army. Nameless posted the idea a couple threads ago.

[Nameless]

Thoes are the things from the UNA's seemingly endless army. Nameless posted the idea a couple threads ago.

Actually that's ALF's army. :smalltongue:
I've only come up with some basic information at the moment. Everyone is welcomed to contribute of course.

[Mina Kobold]

I'm not sure which side Sinister Penguin should be on in Future Imperfect. Would the ALF or the UNA be more suitable for an evil character?

That would be ALF. We have plenty of criminals (and also evil guys) plus psychopath's (John Garde's wolf form will end at the resistance at some point and Nameless ain't much better)

[Keris]

@CrimsonAngel: I don't get it. You killed him.. with a herd of giant caterpillars?


HE WAS THE DUMBEST THING EVER TO HAPPEN TO THE MOVIES!!! :smallfurious::smallfurious::smallfurious:

Nah, there were dumber things. Like omitting Bombadil, or waiting until the Paths of the Dead to give Arúndil to Aragorn. He's meant to get the flag then, not the sword!

[Nameless]

That would be ALF. We have plenty of criminals (and also evil guys) plus psychopath's (John Garde's wolf form will end at the resistance at some point and Nameless ain't much better)

Nameless is true neutral, not evil. :smalltongue:
...
Though it would be good for UNA properganda...

"ALF- The bring nothing but Death" or "ALF- They have Death on their side".
:smalltongue:

[The Gremlin]

Actually that's ALF's army. :smalltongue:
I've only come up with some basic information at the moment. Everyone is welcomed to contribute of course.

Ummm...where the hell would they come from, if you don't mind me asking? The ALF is a group of evil, rather insane terrorists, home to wicked criminals like Igon Minoblendy and that mage guy who has been known to help the mass-murderer Vampire What's-His-Name! Why would they help? The ALF can't even pay!

[Mad Mask]

I'm not sure which side Sinister Penguin should be on in Future Imperfect. Would the ALF or the UNA be more suitable for an evil character?

The ALF, because the UNA is an organisation dedicated to peace, justice and good quality of life, at least on the outside. And the ALF provides protection from law to its members, and you have more freedom to do your illegal actions.

[Tiffanie Lirle]

And doesn't ALF having an army sort of go against the whole ragtag underground resistance thing?

[The Gremlin]

And doesn't ALF having an army sort of go against the whole ragtag underground resistance thing?

Yeah, it does. Clearly, we're gonna have to kill those guys.

[Nameless]

Ummm...where the hell would they come from, if you don't mind me asking? The ALF is a group of evil, rather insane terrorists, home to wicked criminals like Igon Minoblendy and that mage guy who has been known to help the mass-murderer Vampire What's-His-Name! Why would they help? The ALF can't even pay!

ALF are only evil in the UNA's eyes. Good and evil are only concepts in which everyone interprets their own way.
The ALF are basically a group of people who don't agree with the UNA's plans, Igon isn’t Evil, Nameless isn’t evil.
The army are other’s much like the main members of the ALF who also disagree with the UNA's plans, so they joined the ALF and got a nice shiny uniform.


And doesn't ALF having an army sort of go against the whole ragtag underground resistance thing?

It's only a small army, I thought it would make things more interesting if the ALF had one.

[Emperor Ing]

Yeah, it does. Clearly, we're gonna have to kill those guys.
It'll take em forever to find them! Now what about those attacks on settlements on the southwest side of the continent...

[The Gremlin]

ALF are only evil in the UNA's eyes. Good and evil are only concepts in which everyone interprets their own way.
The ALF are basically a group of people who don't agree with the UNA's plans, Igon isn’t Evil, Nameless isn’t evil.
The army are other’s much like the main members of the ALF who also disagree with the UNA's plans, so they joined the ALF and got a nice shiny uniform.



It's only a small army, I thoought it would make things more interesting if the ALF had one.

The ALF has the Dettas, and an assorted group of groups. That's all. To use your example, do our terrorists here have an organized army?

[-skimmer-]

...so they joined the ALF and got a nice shiny uniform.



So ALF have even uniforms then? If they paint a large targets at their backs, it would have the same effect...

[Nameless]

The ALF has the Dettas, and an assorted group of groups. That's all. To use your example, do our terrorists here have an organized army?

I don't see why not.
If it is as you say, and the ALF is just a small group of outlaws, how on earth will they stand against a nation?
If they have a small orginised army by their side to help them out, it might give them a realistic chance.
It won't be an army the size on the UNA's one of course.

[Szilard]

I vote not FAIL.

[The Gremlin]

I don't see why not.
If it is as you say, and the ALF is just a small group of outlaws, how on earth will they stand against a nation?
If they have a small orginised army by their side to help them out, it might give them a realistic chance.
It won't be an army the size on the UNA's one of course.

Do the words 'losing' and 'battle' ring a bell?
No terrorist organizations that I know of have an organized army, why would the ALF? :smallconfused:
/\Okay, it is a tie...still. 8-8.

[Nameless]

Do the words 'losing' and 'battle' ring a bell?
No terrorist organizations that I know of have an organized army, why would the ALF? :smallconfused:
/\Okay, it is a tie...still. 8-8.

Every terrorist orginisation have one. :smallconfused:

And wasn't it 7-7 before making it 7-8 now?

[Mad Mask]

Do the words 'losing' and 'battle' ring a bell?
No terrorist organizations that I know of have an organized army, why would the ALF? :smallconfused:
/\Okay, it is a tie...still. 8-8.

The Revolutionary Armed Forces of Columbia - People's Army are a terrorist organisation and have an army. I consider the resistance to be a bit like that, but on an international scale. The resistance has the quite large army of the Schizian Front on their side and the moderately sized army of the New Alphantican Front, in addition to allies in Alphantica.

[Mina Kobold]

I don't see why not.
If it is as you say, and the ALF is just a small group of outlaws, how on earth will they stand against a nation?
If they have a small orginised army by their side to help them out, it might give them a realistic chance.
It won't be an army the size on the UNA's one of course.

We have an army of people who barely know of each others existence and most are just commoners with no training at all or untrusty:smalltongue:

And I know Nameless ain't evil, I said he weren't much different from the psychopath (who coincidently is evil:smalltongue:)

[The Gremlin]

Every terrorist orginisation have one. :smallconfused:

And wasn't it 7-7 before making it 7-8 now?

Touche. Clearly, I need to learn a bit more about current events. :smallsigh:
And no, because Mem's voting for whoever is losing, which is currently us. So it WOULD be 7-8, I guess, because you guys lost his vote. Sorry. :smalltongue:

[Nameless]

The Revolutionary Armed Forces of Columbia - People's Army are a terrorist organisation and have an army. I consider the resistance to be a bit like that, but on an international scale. The resistance has the quite large army of the Schizian Front on their side and the moderately sized army of the New Alphantican Front, in addition to allies in Alphantica.

Not the mention the other three we've been using as comparisons; Hamas, Hezbollah and I'm pretty sure the IRA has one too.
Anyway, with a small army it gives us a wider option of things to do, now we can have a massive war scene with lazars and guns and stuff.
Pewpew baang rattagaattata K’SPLAZAR’D! :smalltongue:

[The Gremlin]

Not the mention the other three we've been using as comparisons; Hamas, Hezbollah and I'm pretty sure the IRA has one too.
Anyway, with a small army it gives us a wider option of things to do, now we can have a massive war scene with lazars and guns and stuff.
Pewpew baang rattagaattata K’SPLAZAR’D! :smalltongue:

Yeah, guess you're right.

[Lemming]

Yes. Now Lying has an ARM-y. (Groan.:smallsigh:)

EDIT: Also, Memnarch wasn't included in the 7-7, so its 8-7 for no FAIL, 8-8 with Memnarch.

[Szilard]

I now present to you, the "ghost" of illusion!

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd233/SzilardG/Illusionsig.png

[The Gremlin]

I now present to you, the "ghost" of illusion!

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd233/SzilardG/Illusionsig.png

heh, at first I didn't see the image. Looks like the Ghost knows Invisibility. Doesn't seem to have a long duration, though. :smallwink:

[Emperor Ing]

I now present to you, the "ghost" of illusion!

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd233/SzilardG/Illusionsig.png

it appears to be one of Lying's bitches servants on the citadel.

[The Gremlin]

it appears to be one of Lying's bitches servants on the citadel.

Yeah, the eyes are supposed to be covered by the shadow.

[Emperor Ing]

Yeah, the eyes are supposed to be covered by the shadow.

You don't know that, for all you know, she may never have had eyes. That, and if the shadow does cover them up, then it was done pretty badly. :smalltongue:

[Nameless]

Yeah, guess you're right.

Does... Does this mean we won't be arguing about it for 20 or so pages?!?
...
I... I feel so hollow... :smalleek:

:smalltongue:

[The Gremlin]

You don't know that, for all you know, she may never have had eyes. That, and if the shadow does cover them up, then it was done pretty badly. :smalltongue:

You misunderstand. I was criticizing his art. The Ghosts are all supposed to have their eyes/the place where their eyes are covered by shadow. Don't ask me why.
/\ Muhahahaha!!! Now you shall ever wonder, 'would I have won that argument? Or would he have pulled an acorn on me and defeated me?'
You shall NEVER know!!

[Szilard]

Well, I didn't want to cover the eyes too much so that the facial expressions can show.

[Emperor Ing]

You misunderstand. I was criticizing his art. The Ghosts are all supposed to have their eyes/the place where their eyes are covered by shadow. Don't ask me why.

I know the intent, but IMO, epic fail on shadow covering eyes.

[SinisterPenguin]

The ALF, because the UNA is an organisation dedicated to peace, justice and good quality of life, at least on the outside. And the ALF provides protection from law to its members, and you have more freedom to do your illegal actions.

In that case, here's what Sinister Penguin might look like in FI.

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu320/SinisterPenguin/SPconcept.png

Any suggestions?

[The Gremlin]

I know the intent, but IMO, epic fail on shadow covering eyes.

Indeed, I am not going to fight that battle.

[Emperor Ing]

BTW ssilzard, nice way to steal the diamond chainsaw thing. :smallwink:

[Mina Kobold]

In that case, here's what Sinister Penguin might look like in FI.

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu320/SinisterPenguin/SPconcept.png

Any suggestions?

Flames or auras are always good for evil characters. Really good drawing by the way

[Szilard]

BTW ssilzard, nice way to steal the diamond chainsaw thing. :smallwink:

Yeah... well, he did get it in a comic.

[Mad Mask]

BTW ssilzard, nice way to steal the diamond chainsaw thing. :smallwink:

His name is Szilard, not Ssilzard.

[Lemming]

In that case, here's what Sinister Penguin might look like in FI.

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu320/SinisterPenguin/SPconcept.png

Any suggestions?

Nooooo! You made him even cuter! :smalltongue:
Maybe if he was holding a human skull or something...

[-skimmer-]

In that case, here's what Sinister Penguin might look like in FI.

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu320/SinisterPenguin/SPconcept.png

Any suggestions?

um...top-hat? No, no, no...I think its fine:smallsmile:

[The Gremlin]

His name is Szilard, not Ssilzard.

It's a typo.

[Szilard]

His name is Szilard, not Ssilzard.

I don't really care anymore, my name has been mangled for as long as I've been in America. That's probably why everyone just calls me Sizzle.

[Emperor Ing]

His name is Szilard, not Ssilzard.

We've established he's got one of the hardest names to spell out next to om(n)icron in ABR.

[CrimsonAngel]

@CrimsonAngel: I don't get it. You killed him.. with a herd of giant caterpillars?


I posted that my otter army would gnaw your eyes out.

[The Gremlin]

We've established he's got one of the hardest names to spell out next to om(n)icron in ABR.

You forget Chriky/Chirky, and if caps count?
Kpenguin/KPenguin/kPenguin/kpenguin

[Emperor Ing]

You forget Chriky/Chirky, and if caps count?
Kpenguin/KPenguin/kPenguin/kpenguin

and of course you got the debacle with Randomizer vs Randomiser. It's spelled with a Z.

[CrimsonAngel]

*chomp* :smallbiggrin:

[Green-Shirt Q]

and of course you got the debacle with Randomizer vs Randomiser. It's spelled with a Z.

I think I used to call you Randimizer.

Because you're dim. Get it? :smallbiggrin:

[Szilard]

and of course you got the debacle with Randomizer vs Randomiser. It's spelled with a Z.

It's probably because of all the English people on these boards. They always spell things that have a z with an s. (i.e. "civilisation")

[CrimsonAngel]

I think I used to call you Randimizer.

Because you're dim. Get it? :smallbiggrin:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I get it. :3

[chriky]

I don't think mine, Omicron's or Kp's names are anywhere near as confusing as Szilard's.

@Szilard - it's not that we spell things with an s instead of a z, you spell things with a z instead of an s. Because We came first.

[Emperor Ing]

I think I used to call you Randimizer.

Because you're dim. Get it? :smallbiggrin:

1) Fail. (I dont get it at all. :P)
2) Fail 2 (Because you had to explain the joke)
3) Fail 3 (because you laughed at your own joke)

[Szilard]

@Szilard - it's not that we spell things with an s instead of a z, you spell things with a z instead of an s. Because We came first.
Close enough.:smalltongue:

[SinisterPenguin]

Nooooo! You made him even cuter! :smalltongue:
Maybe if he was holding a human skull or something...

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu320/SinisterPenguin/SPconcept2.png

How's that? :smalltongue:

[CrimsonAngel]

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu320/SinisterPenguin/SPconcept2.png

How's that? :smalltongue:

Now give him a top hat and a cane!

[The Gremlin]

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu320/SinisterPenguin/SPconcept2.png

How's that? :smalltongue:

You could use the evil eyes, like I did. :smallamused:

[chriky]

1) Fail. (I dont get it at all. :P)
2) Fail 2 (Because you had to explain the joke)
3) Fail 3 (because you laughed at your own joke)

This made me lol, because it was exactly what I though.

[Mina Kobold]

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu320/SinisterPenguin/SPconcept2.png

How's that? :smalltongue:

Needs more magic (like the color around your avis.. Hands?) and try using a red version of the skull eyes, it look evil.

[-skimmer-]

Now give him a top hat and a cane!


Don't forget mustache...

[T-O-E]

None of you understand, it's not that we spell things with an s instead of a z, you spell things with a z instead of an s.


You spell things with a z instead of an s, he said. He's right. Absolutely right.

I don't know why but I'm compelled to make allusions to Watchmen...

[BRC]

Question, would the ALF know about Them. I mean, they certainly know that the media is generally pro-UNA, but do they know how much control there actually is? (as in, are they aware that there is a vast conspiracy controlling or at least influencing both pro and anti UNA sources)

[Emperor Ing]

Question, would the ALF know about Them. I mean, they certainly know that the media is generally pro-UNA, but do they know how much control there actually is? (as in, are they aware that there is a vast conspiracy controlling or at least influencing both pro and anti UNA sources)

This post has been deemed Neglegible by the Society for the Promotion and Elongation of Random Meaninglessness.

[The Gremlin]

Question, would the ALF know about Them. I mean, they certainly know that the media is generally pro-UNA, but do they know how much control there actually is? (as in, are they aware that there is a vast conspiracy controlling or at least influencing both pro and anti UNA sources)

Given the very powerful Diviner in the ALF, they might suspect something, but I would think that the Ghosts of Illusion and Abjuration (and maybe Enchantment)would protect it pretty well and make it difficult to be sure about much except that clearly the media is somewhat controlled.

[BRC]

This post has been deemed Neglegible by the Society for the Elongation of Promotionial of Random Meaninglessness.
Right, sorry, I don't want to cross the society.

So, who here thinks that we should make the Top Hat and the Fedora fashionable again?

[Emperor Ing]

Right, sorry, I don't want to cross the society.

So, who here thinks that we should make the Top Hat and the Fedora fashionable again?

Fedoras never went out of style, and neither have Top Hats. Its just that nobody wears them. :smallfrown:

[Mina Kobold]

Question, would the ALF know about Them. I mean, they certainly know that the media is generally pro-UNA, but do they know how much control there actually is? (as in, are they aware that there is a vast conspiracy controlling or at least influencing both pro and anti UNA sources)

We DO have spies, so maybe (we could even have one working there and including codes in the Medias to help other spies and delay rapports, but that might be too much)

[Lemming]

Question, would the ALF know about Them. I mean, they certainly know that the media is generally pro-UNA, but do they know how much control there actually is? (as in, are they aware that there is a vast conspiracy controlling or at least influencing both pro and anti UNA sources)

They suspect but do not know. And since when did fedoras go out of fashion? I don't want to live in a world where fedoras aren't fashionable! :smallwink:

@SP: Don't forget a goatee.

[The Gremlin]

They know that the media is being controlled (though to what extent is uncertain), but they don't know about Them.

[CrimsonAngel]

Hey, what's 3S's holy paladin mount?

[Mad Mask]

Hey, what's 3S's holy paladin mount?

When did Threeshades start being a paladin ?

[CrimsonAngel]

When did Threeshades start being a paladin ?

Isn't the red head a paladin?

[Lemming]

When did Threeshades start being a paladin ?

She has a paladin character. The one who frickin hates bards.

[Emperor Ing]

When did Threeshades start being a paladin ?

5 minutes ago when there was a mistaken identity incident :smalltongue:

[Lemming]

5 minutes ago when there was a mistaken identity incident :smalltongue:

She's cloaked in shadow and just vowed the destruction of all thats good and pure. Hmmm. Must be a paladin. :smalltongue:

[Emperor Ing]

She's cloaked in shadow and just vowed the destruction of all thats good and pure. Hmmm. Must be a paladin. :smalltongue:

Make it even worse, Paladin levels isnt a Blackguard Prerequisite :smalltongue:

[Lemming]

Make it even worse, Paladin levels isnt a Blackguard Prerequisite :smalltongue:

Necrophilia, pedophilia, raping a demon, believing in Michael Jackson, and eating uber-cute defenseless baby animals. :smallwink:

[CrimsonAngel]

Waits for someone to answer my question.*

[BRC]

Waits for someone to answer my question.*
Only 3s can answer that, though if you MUST assume, I'd say go wit ha horse.

[Lemming]

Waits for someone to answer my question.*

I WILL NEVER GIVE IN! YOU HEAR ME?! NEVER! :smalltongue:

[CrimsonAngel]

I was working on my templates and when I went to make chricky's, I was using MM's comic. When I zoomed in, he didn't have the dragon scar lookin thing, but me and him had acne. Why? :smalleek: :smallconfused:

[SinisterPenguin]

I added a top hat:

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu320/SinisterPenguin/SPconcept3.png

It doesn't look quite right, though, so I'm not sure if I should go back to him without the top hat or stay with the top hat.

[The Gremlin]

I added a top hat:

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu320/SinisterPenguin/SPconcept3.png

It doesn't look quite right, though, so I'm not sure if I should go back to him without the top hat or stay with the top hat.

Not really a top hat, but it looks awesome. :smallbiggrin:

[-skimmer-]

I added a top hat:

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu320/SinisterPenguin/SPconcept3.png

It doesn't look quite right, though, so I'm not sure if I should go back to him without the top hat or stay with the top hat.


He looks so...sinister:smalleek:

[Nameless]

He looks so...sinister:smalleek:

And cute. :smallsmile:

[Lyinginbedmon]

Sweet mother of Ghandi this thread is going fast...

[CrimsonAngel]

*hugs lying* I love you all! *passes out* :smallsigh:

[Lyinginbedmon]

On the note of ALF being small however, we seem to be forgetting one fairly significant thing:

ALF is built on top of Exersus

[Ninja Chocobo]

1) Fail. (I dont get it at all. :P)
2) Fail 2 (Because you had to explain the joke)
3) Fail 3 (because you laughed at your own joke)

Fail. (The joke is that it's a bad joke)

[Mad Mask]

On the note of ALF being small however, we seem to be forgetting one fairly significant thing:

ALF is built on top of Exersus

I thought Exersus was mostly gone, except for the remaining Red Whispers and Green Rangers ?

[CrimsonAngel]

Yay, evil fallen paladin avi!

[Nameless]

Yay, evil fallen paladin avi!

YAY!
*hi5*

[CrimsonAngel]

YAY!
*hi5*

YAY! *buys you a cheese*

[Lyinginbedmon]

I thought Exersus was mostly gone, except for the remaining Red Whispers and Green Rangers ?

The Exersus Resistance is gone, yes, because their goal was completed following the Age of Dragons and the Battle of the Palace.

Exersus, the secret global organisation, has been keeping political affairs as balanced as possible for over five centuries afterwards. They also safeguard a lot of potential threats to national-and-greater safety.

Where did you think the Exersus soldiers came from just now, with Greatwise and Enko?

[Nameless]

YAY! *buys you a cheese*

Yay! *melts on a hotdog*

[Lemming]

I added a top hat:

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu320/SinisterPenguin/SPconcept3.png

It doesn't look quite right, though, so I'm not sure if I should go back to him without the top hat or stay with the top hat.

Thats more of a fedora. He looks like some kind of crime boss, maybe in the mafia or something.
"You cross-a me and I-a turn-a you into swiss cheese. Capiche?" :smallwink:

[Falgorn]

Okay, let's make a comparison, alright?
Now, for this comparison, let's go back to the Revolutionary War of America. Around the beginning. Now, the British are very annoyed with us, but don't see us as much of a threat, because they vastly outnumber us and have tons of Sovice chips. :smallwink:
It is perfectly possible that some British folk referred to the rebels by an insulting name. SOME, not ALL, but it is possible that they would mock them. Possibly mocking us in a way related to Yankee Doodle, or something. I'm not good with history. But my point still stands. If they don't see us as a terrible threat, more as an annoyance, they might call us 'FAIL'. Especially if it came from a popular TV show.

Good point, thinking 'bout it, and I say I that I must agree. If "FAIL" is being used as something to lighten the mood, instead of an actual name, I say that it makes sense. I like the GOTMILK? Too. :smallwink:

& Yankee Doodle was orginally an insult to the Americans.
And what's the opposite of a ninja? A guard? A drunk? An American?!?!

[CrimsonAngel]

Thats more of a fedora. He looks like some kind of crime boss, maybe in the mafia or something.
"You cross-a me and I-a turn-a you into swiss cheese. Capiche?" :smallwink:

When you said Capiche I thought it was :caw-pee-shay: at first.

[Falgorn]

@Crimson and Nameless: I want some cheese, preferably ones make from the juicy, undying souls of the Muffin Kings of Palshababa.

[Lemming]

And what's the opposite of a ninja? A guard? A drunk? An American?!?!

Actually its Ronald McDonald.

[CrimsonAngel]

You just made me think of Ronald McDonald assasinating someone with his party members, thoes freaks like the hamburgler and gremis.

[Nameless]

Someone should totely make a picture of a giant Burger king Vs Ronald McDonald in a city.
Godzila Vs King Kong style. :smallbiggrin:

[CrimsonAngel]

Someone should totely make a picture of a giant Burger king Vs Ronald McDonald in a city.
Godzila Vs King Kong style. :smallbiggrin:

WITH CHEESECAKE!

[Nameless]

WITH CHEESECAKE!

Cheesecake fails.
I demand hot chocolate fudge cake with ice cream God damn it!

[CrimsonAngel]

Cheesecake fails.
I demand hot chocolate fudge cake with ice cream God damn it!

Huuuuuh! You said a bad word! *hides* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO0kRE5OTZI)

[Lyinginbedmon]

Thats more of a fedora. He looks like some kind of crime boss, maybe in the mafia or something.
"You cross-a me and I-a turn-a you into swiss cheese. Capiche?" :smallwink:

"You cross-a me and I-a use you as food for de kids in tha winter. Capiche?" would be more accurate for a penguin.

[Lemming]

"You cross-a me and I-a use you as food for de kids in tha winter. Capiche?" would be more accurate for a penguin.

I feed-a you to da seals. Capiche?

@Crimson:...I don't think thats quite appropriate for a 12 year old, but what the heck, it was funny. And then kinda lost it around the sex jokes. And then just started to drag on and reuse the same joke over and over again.

[CrimsonAngel]

Behold!
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/CrimsonAngelChris/g74.png

Place a bid. :smallwink:

[chriky]

I was working on my templates and when I went to make chricky's, I was using MM's comic. When I zoomed in, he didn't have the dragon scar lookin thing, but me and him had acne. Why? :smalleek: :smallconfused:

I don't know why I didn't have the scar however it's just like Firedrakes's but a bit lighter. I'm not sure what those pink dots are but if they're acne it would be because ne views us as younger characters because of how we look and the way we act. But just for the reference Chriky is in his mid to late 20's in FFF1.

[Threeshades]

"You cross-a me and I-a use you as food for de kids in tha winter. Capiche?" would be more accurate for a penguin.

Poppycock! Everyone knows penguins have a canadian accent.

[Emperor Ing]

Poppycock! Everyone knows penguins have a canadian accent.

what's a canadian accent? (seriously, I have a hard time telling)

[Nameless]

what's a canadian accent? (seriously, I have a hard time telling)

It's like a northern American accent but softer.

[Bayar]

An unholy union between english and french.

[Threeshades]

what's a canadian accent? (seriously, I have a hard time telling)

It's same as a north american, just add "Buddy" to every sentence :smalltongue:

[Emperor Ing]

It's same as a north american, just add "Buddy" to every sentence :smalltongue:

I thought it was add 'eh' generously to every sentence.

[Falgorn]

Actually its Ronald McDonald.

I've seen Ronald McDonald do some pretty ninja stuff, like give the "Illusion" that McDonalds is healthy. And he has poisoned our youth. And lastly, Ronald has been caught playing Assassain's Creed on the 360.

[Green-Shirt Q]

what's a canadian accent? (seriously, I have a hard time telling)

Living in Ontario, I don't really see a one dominant accent in all the diverse kinds of people. There are all KINDS of accents, see?

I've never actually heard "eh" used in a sentence by a Canadian other then for making fun of other countries' view of Canadians.

[Lyinginbedmon]

It varies by region but personally I think a Canadian accent sounds like a much softer USAire accent, in many instances with just a hint of British.

[The Gremlin]

Meh. Canadia isn't that great. I'm told that, unlike the wonderful state of Oregon, it has types of weather besides rain, and slight sun with showers. And when you got those two, what more do you need? :smallannoyed:
Oh look, it's raining again.

[Lemming]

what's a canadian accent? (seriously, I have a hard time telling)

I can't tell. I think Americans speak kinda funny, but thats because I'm used to a canadian accent. There is no "Eh?" and no "buddy". And we don't talk like Alaskans.

@Fal: Thats because clowns are such the opposite of ninjas that to the untrained they look about the same, but are actually opposites just using the same methods. Its also because clowns are so sneaky they snuck to the other end of the ninjaness scale and no one noticed. :smalltongue:

EDIT:...Canadia? Where is that? And snow is nice thank-you-very-much. :smallyuk: Except when it rains and all the snow freezes and there's ice everywhere. :smallfrown:

[Green-Shirt Q]

Meh. Canadia isn't that great. I'm told that, unlike the wonderful state of Oregon, it has types of weather besides rain, and slight sun with showers. And when you got those two, what more do you need? :smallannoyed:
Oh look, it's raining again.

Yeah. Canadia sucks! :smallmad:

Canada however is the awsomest country in the world. It's like a spin-off of Britan and it's like America minus the cowboys and not everybody hates us. :smalltongue:

[CrimsonAngel]

Yeah. Canadia sucks! :smallmad:

Canada however is the awsomest country in the world. It's like a spin-off of Britan and it's like America minus the cowboys and not everybody hates us. :smalltongue:

(from texas) ...... *throws a cow at.*

[The Gremlin]

Yeah. Canadia sucks! :smallmad:

Canada however is the awsomest country in the world. It's like a spin-off of Britan and it's like America minus the cowboys and not everybody hates us. :smalltongue:

Pff. Too many Canadan Geese.

[VampireRot]

Pff. Too many Canadan Geese.

:smallannoyed: Canadian Geese live in the United States too. :smallannoyed:

[The Gremlin]

:smallannoyed: Canadian Geese live in the United States too. :smallannoyed:

Cadanan Geese are silly.

[VampireRot]

Cadanan Geese are silly.

I agree. But they live everywhere. Everywhere.

[The Gremlin]

I agree. But they live everywhere. Everywhere.

But Decanac Geese come from Candan!

[CrimsonAngel]

RANDOM KILL! :smallmad::smallbiggrin::smallamused:
http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss354/VampireRot/Otter-girlrandomkill.png

YOU MONSTER!

[VampireRot]

But Decanac Geese come from Candan!

Decanac Geese come from Decanac. Canadian Geese come from everywhere.


YOU MONSTER!

I am. Druids are fun to torment :smalltongue:.
Another example:
http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss354/VampireRot/MarshmellowRoasting.png
A picture I made when I first tried Inkscape out.

[CrimsonAngel]

*punches self in the face* Must... resist! *rolls around.* (I'm using all my willpower not to add another druid, just to kick rot's ass. :smallfrown:) AND IT'S HARD!

[Lemming]

LEMMING-ALANCHE!
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv225/gnimmel/Random/rect6453.png

[CrimsonAngel]

LEMMING-ALANCHE!
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv225/gnimmel/Random/rect6453.png

At first I thought there was a bunch of tiny you's falling on him then I saw they were actual lemmings! That made me laugh so hard!

[VampireRot]

Hmmmm... I've just noticed that I've been random-killed a lot. :smallfrown: Why do I have to be the punching bag? Is it the easy-to-drawness of my charecter? The fact that his kind of evil is the kind everyone wants to kill? is is because no one likes me? :smallfrown: Is it the fact that I find hilarious and/or disturbing ways of killing you?

[CrimsonAngel]

I kill you with my druids only. Druids rule. I think it might be the ease to draw for the others, but SP came along and noones RKing him.

[Tiffanie Lirle]

Hmmmm... I've just noticed that I've been random-killed a lot. :smallfrown:

You're showing weakness, they're attracted to that like the ravenous blood thirsty animals they all are. :smallwink:

Also

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/CrimsonAngelChris/g274-1.png
Times like this made me wish the abr house of horrors was still around. Then again, perhaps this one is just too easy.

@v - Don't imply it if you can't supply it. :smalltongue:

[CrimsonAngel]

Also

Times like this made me wish the abr house of horrors was still around.

But... but my plants would get all dirty. :smallfrown:

[Mina Kobold]

Hmmmm... I've just noticed that I've been random-killed a lot. :smallfrown: Why do I have to be the punching bag? Is it the easy-to-drawness of my charecter? The fact that his kind of evil is the kind everyone wants to kill? is is because no one likes me? :smallfrown: Is it the fact that I find hilarious and/or disturbing ways of killing you?

I believe it's the killing of a little girls cute and fluffy pets that did it.

[VampireRot]

I believe it's the killing of a little girls cute and fluffy pets that did it.

No, thats wasn't it. I think it was the killing of little girl's cute and fluffy pets, zombifying the cute, fluffy, and dead pets, and then making the zombie cute and fluffy pets attack the little girl. It was fun (I distinctly remember cackling maniacally).

[Falgorn]

I can't tell. I think Americans speak kinda funny, but thats because I'm used to a canadian accent. There is no "Eh?" and no "buddy". And we don't talk like Alaskans.

@Fal: Thats because clowns are such the opposite of ninjas that to the untrained they look about the same, but are actually opposites just using the same methods. Its also because clowns are so sneaky they snuck to the other end of the ninjaness scale and no one noticed. :smalltongue:

EDIT:...Canadia? Where is that? And snow is nice thank-you-very-much. :smallyuk: Except when it rains and all the snow freezes and there's ice everywhere. :smallfrown:

Makes sense. I'm finally home, so I can make a clown.

[CrimsonAngel]

Who wants me to make a new house o' horrors. (ABR) :smallbiggrin:

[-skimmer-]

Who wants me to make a new house o' horrors. (ABR) :smallbiggrin:

Well, I am for that idea:smallsmile: