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The Rose Dragon

2009-03-09, 11:23 AM

Welcome To Random BanterWe hope you enjoy your stay.
We still might kill you, though.

This thread does exactly what it says on the tin. Only it's not in a tin. RB is a place to talk about... anything you feel like. Anything (As the title suggests) random, that you don't feel is significant enough to merit it's own thread. Though some topics seem to come up more frequently than others (e.g. Maths and Shakespeare)

New people should not be scared, we're all very nice really. Well, except for that guy over there, but never mind him. Feel free to jump in. I did, and see, now I have the transient and entirely worthless pleasure of making the new thread myself.

I'm afraid there are a few rules, put in place to keep these threads from getting out of hand.

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And here, linked for your convenience, are the previous incarnations of this thread.
Previous Threads:

Amotis' Random Banter #1 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13484)
Dhavaer's Random Banter #2 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13401)
PhoeKun's Random Banter #3 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13319)
Rei Jin's Random Banter #4 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13205)
Toxic Avenger's Random Banter #5 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13146)
Jibar's Random Banter #6 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13026)
Ego Slayer's Surrogate Random Banter #7 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12939)
Sneak's Random Barroom Brawl #8 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12918)
Sophistemon's Solemnly Random Banter #9 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12855)
Vaynor's Very Random Banter #10 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12834)
Bookman's Blathering Random Banter #11 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12809)
Gralamin's Glorious Random Banter #12 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12785)
Rilik's Resplendently Random Raillery #13 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12766)
Gezina's Growling Grazing Random Banter #14 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12747)
The Zerglings Utterly And Geeky Random Banter #15 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12740)
jaqueses Truthfully Randomly Fireside Banter # 16 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12735)
Jack Squat’s Jubilantly Quixotic Random Banter #17 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12693)
Cardel's Banter of Cookie Jubilation #18 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12668)
Archonic's Chaotically Random Banter of Rods #19 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12657)
The Rod's Inanimate Temple of RANDOM banter #20 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12638)
Lucky’s Loquaciously Loud-Mouthed Random Banter#21 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12630)
Deckmaster's Divinely Delightful Random Banter #22 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12614)
Saithis' Soliloquy of Random Banter #23 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12598)
Loveable Lianae's Ludicrous Lampooning Lottery #24 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12578)
NEO|Phyte's Neolithic Nest of Weasel Banter #25 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12544)
Target's Random Banter of "non-violence" #26 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12533)
Tarnag40k's Random banter of "grammar errors" #27 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12515)
Kyrian's Random Banter of ADHDness #28 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12507)
El Jaspero's Random Drunken Ramblings #29 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12503)
Boss Smiley's Eloquently Eggy Banter #30 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12494)
Lykan's Looney Explosionarama & Random Banter #31 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12482)
Iames's Iambic Yarn of Yammering #32 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12468)
Dispozition's Deviously Distressed Banter #33 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12458)
CP's Copiously Combusting Banter of Carnage #34 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12445)
Alarra's Altar of Random Banter #35 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12432)
Eloquent Rune's Electrifying Rambling Banter #36 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12423)
E_P's Very Own Quite Popular Random Banter #37 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12419)
Hydrogelic's Foolish Mortal Random Banter #38 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12413)
Ink's Smudgy Splotchy Random Banter #39 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12405)
Azrael's Big Black Book of Banter #40 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12397)
The Logic Vampire's Rational Random Banter #41 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12387)
Shiny's Shimmering Space-hitchin Random Banter #42 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12376)
ZombieRockStar's Random Banter #43 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12360)

Nostrabel's Realm of Cookies and Random Banter #44 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12342)
Charity's Cheery Chatter Circle #45 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12328)
Samiam's Spontaneous Scintillating Soliloquy #46 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12310)
LLama's Masked Mysterious Random Banter #47 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26599)
Ravishing Rydia's Recumbentibus ^_^ Random Banter #48 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27622)
Penguinizers Perilous Random Banter #49 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28083)
Death's delightfully morbid surrogate random banter #50 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28444)
Wayril's wonderfully weird surrogate random banter #51 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28990)
Rawhide's Deck of Random Banter (52 Cards) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29697)
Korith's Sorrogate Random Banter of Zombie Killing #53 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30353)
Surrogate thread of random Bor-dom #54 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31109)
Rex Idiotarum's Painfully Pogoing Thread #55 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31512)
The Wrath of KHAAAAAANtalas’s William Shatner Flavored Random Banter # 56 (Surrogate) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32080)
EmeraldRose's Random Banter of Lashing Wit #57 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32494)
Captain van der Decken's Surrogate Ship of Random Loot (Banter) #58 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32847)
SDF's Neverending I-Don't-Have-an-OotS-Avatar-Yet Story Banter #59 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33465)
Mauril's Surrogate Dwelf Banter of Fantasy Race Confusion 60th Edition (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34165)
Rockphed's Dice Rolling Toga Party of 61 Drunken CIA Analysts (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34568)
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Jibar's Retro Random Banter #63 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35014)
Malina's Random Spanish Banter #64 of morphical annoyance (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35256)
Mr. E's Random Banter #65 of Cane Toting and Hat Tipping (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35418)
Ego Slayer's Hellishly Random Banter #66.6 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35596)
Purple Gelatinous Cube o' Doom's bowl of bantery j-e-ll-o randomness #67 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35859)
Zephra's Random Banter of Ghostly Wailings, and Howling Fun#68 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36317)
Cobra Ikari's Random Banter #69 of Rampant Hugging, Guttermindedness, and ;-) Kinky. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36977)
Scorpina's Random Banter #70 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37480)
Raistlin1040's Super Special Awesome Random Banter #71(Now with 20% more tacos) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37824)
Uberblah's Random Banter #72 Of Caffeine And Sleep Deprivation Induced Randomness (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38225)
Lucky’s Random Banter #73 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38987)
Castaras's Random Banter #74 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37836)
D'anna Biers RB #75 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39495)
Zeb The Troll's RB#76 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39801)
Egdpollard's RB #77 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40128)
Gezina's and Calamity's Random banter #78 of double entendre and doom (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40410)
Random Banter #79 In Loving Memory of Hexa_Regina (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40909)
Zeratul's random banter #80 of throwing puppies off bridges (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41778)
Vespe's Random Banter #81 of singing dolphins and mostly harmless planets. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43254)
CSK's Giant in the Playground Forums Addicted Anonymous, Random Banter #82 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44919)
Iames's Ramblingly Erratic Belldandy-Charged Random Banter #83 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47592)
Serpentine's Scintillating Sensually and Sinuously Seductive Stochastic Satire #84 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49048)
Radikalskippy's Random Banter #85 of lost ideas and where to find them... (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50658)
Moon Called's Random Banter #86 of Sexy Anime Boys and Fangirl Squeals (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51825)
Lilly's Lovely Random Banter #87 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52783)
FdL's Fuzzbox-Fueled Random Banter #88 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54612)
SweetRein's Sugary Restrained Random Banter #89 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59668)
Midnight's Mutant Motorcycle Madness Random Banter #90 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62430)
Em's Extremely Extraordinarily Epic Random Banter #91 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65645)
Dragonrider's Random Banter in Conjunction with the Weighted Cube #92 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67629)
Bushranger's Bodaciously Buffed Random Banter-y Rooster #93 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69425)
Haruki's Historically Hilarious Honey-covered Random Banter #94 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71161)
North's Maple Syrup Flavored Non-Alliterative Random Banter #95 Eh? (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73464)
Wadledo's Weirdly Warbling Watercress Watching Washing Machine Only Random Banter #96 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75946)
SMEE's Random Banter #97 of gender bending and closet bursting (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78694)
Raiser's Rambunctiously Rambling Random Banter #98 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81626)
Dr. Bath's Random Banter, dripping with daring deeds of dastardly deipnosophists #99 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84068)
VOTE, the Democracy Demon's Devilishly Devious and Decidedly Diabolical Desultory Derision (Random Banter) #100 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84914)
Jack Squat's Justlessly Juxtaposed Random Banter #101 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87577)
Dallas-Dakota's Dundering Dandelion's Devilish Damsel's Distress Random Banter #102 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4790602#post4790602)
Destro Yersul's Dangerously Distracting and Doubtlessly Disturbing Random Banter #103 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4903962#post4903962)
Aziraphiles Actually Alliterative and Awesomely Affluent Random Banter #104 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92718)
Cristo's Consistently Confusing and Constantly Casual Random Banter #105 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94491)
Dish's Delightfully Deranged and Deliciously Deliquent Random Banter # 106 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95905)
Slayer's Seemingly Sweet and Socially Silly Random Banter # 107 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97703)
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Coplantor's Completely Creative Cautious and Contemplative Random Banter #109 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100414)
Rutskarn's Roly-Poly Rebellious and Rejected Random Banter #110 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101156)
TwoBitWriter's Tubular Tracts of Thought-Talking Random Banter #111 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5600540#post5600540)
Phase's Phully Phormed, Phalangeal, and Phantasmagorical Random Banter #112 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101988)

Wolfbane's Wonderfully Wacky and Wildly Wandom Random Banter #113 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102865)
The Kiwi's Kinkily Knotted and Kookily Kickass Random Banter #114 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103674)
Jude's Judgmental Jugular Jab and Jibber Jabbery Random Banter #115 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104480)
The Throne of Thufir's Thoroughly Theoretical and Therapeutic Random Banter #116 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105584)

As stated above, this thread is for random discussion, not random chit chat. That is to say, this is a forum, not your IM client. People have set up an unofficial IRC chat thingy for that sort of thing. Not only will you not annoy the people here, you will also help increase the popularity of the IRC chat.

And by natural law, I state that this thread belongs to the Collective, and thus should not be named alliteratively or after a poster. Also, boogies and blessings of any kind shall be frowned upon (though you're still gonna do it anyway, aren't you?).

Scene 1, Take 117... Camera, lights... BANTER!

Dallas-Dakota

2009-03-09, 11:26 AM

*boogies*

Meh, not as good as when Jibs or Curly do it.

And I was weirded a bit by just a Random Banter and no long title...

dish

2009-03-09, 11:26 AM

Yay! Collective banter.

If we can't boogie or bless, can we sing?
Please, please, please, pretty please. Let's all sing together collectively.

Fredthefighter

2009-03-09, 11:30 AM

Yes, I too am used to the long titles. Although the reason behind this is sound and quite understandable.
But yeah, we're still going to boogie like it's 1999.
*Boogies like it's 1999*
Also, singing would be good. What should we sing?
*Hopes for Blues Brothers*

dish

2009-03-09, 11:35 AM

I'll do the Blues Brothers, but the only song I can remember from that off the top of my head is "Theme from Rawhide". (We could sing it in honour of the mod.)

Fredthefighter

2009-03-09, 11:37 AM

I'll do the Blues Brothers, but the only song I can remember from that off the top of my head is "Theme from Rawhide". (We could sing it in honour of the mod.)

I know "Everybody needs somebody". Although I've heard the Rawhide theme, I don't know the lyrics per se.

The Rose Dragon

2009-03-09, 11:42 AM

For everyone's singing pleasure, lyrics to Rawhide Theme Song. (http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/blues+brothers/theme+from+rawhide_20020777.html)

Also, it's "per se", not "per say". Anyone who uses "per say" will be shot at dawn.

Fredthefighter

2009-03-09, 11:44 AM

*Bursts into song*
Rollin rollin rollin
Rollin rollin rollin
Rollin rollin rollin
Rollin rollin rollin

Rollin rollin rollin
Though the streams are swollen
Keep them doggies rolling
Rawhide
Rain and wind and weather
Hell bent for leather
Wishing my girl was by my side
All the things Im missin
Good victuals, love and kissin
Are waiting at the end of my ride

Move em on (head em up)
Head em up (move em up)
Move em on (head em up)
Rawhide
Cut em out (ride em in)
Ride em in (cut em out)
Cut em out (ride em in)
Rawhide

Keep movin movin movin
Though their disapprovin
Keep them doggies moving
Rawhide
Dont try to understand them
Just rope, throw and brand them
Soon well be living high and wide
My hearts calculating
My true love will be waiting
Be waiting at the end of my ride

Move em up (head em up)
Head em up (move em on)
Move em on (head em up)
Rawhide
Cut em out (ride em in)
Ride em in (cut em out)
Cut em out (ride em in)
Rawhide
Yah!
Move em on (head em up)
Head em up (move em on)
Move em on (head em up)
Rawhide
Cut em out (ride em in)
Ride em in (cut em out)
Cut em out (ride em in)
Rawhide
Yah!
Rollin rollin rollin
Rollin rollin rollin
Yah!
Rollin rollin rollin
Rollin rollin rollin
Yah!
Rawhide
Yah! rawhide!

Sorry about the whole "Per say, per se" thing. Getting confused.

randman22222

2009-03-09, 11:49 AM

Argh! I can't seem to reliably spell "optimistic" correctly! Without fail, I spell it "optomistic", as if it relates to where one buys their eyeglasses. This is peeving me to no ends. :smallyuk:

dish

2009-03-09, 11:53 AM

Fredthefighter

2009-03-09, 12:08 PM

Years ago I remember hearing a Scottish version of "Rawhide" sung by a Country and Eastern band. Wish I could remember all the lyrics, but google isn't helping. I've only got some sections of it...

Don't try to understand 'em,
Just stick the heid and brand 'em
And dream of pints of heavy in East Kilbride.

My wages will be waitin'
My tart is calculatin'
Waiting at the end of the ride.

That sounds so cool. Not as cool as the real version, but still cool.
Everybody, needs somebody,
Everybody, needs somebody,
Someone to love (Someone to love)
Sweetheart to miss (Sweetheart to miss)
Sugar to kiss (Sugar to kiss)

Dragonrider

2009-03-09, 12:22 PM

Argh! I can't seem to reliably spell "optimistic" correctly! Without fail, I spell it "optomistic", as if it relates to where one buys their eyeglasses. This is peeving me to no ends. :smallyuk:

I'm glad I'm not the only one who habitually misspells a specific word. Mine is "terrific". I just did it wrong when I tried to write it there - I ALWAYS want to say "teriffic". WHY?!?!

Edit: Freddyfoo asked if fizzy (carbonated) drinks had caffeine. Yes, many do (although you can buy decaffeinated varieties, they still have a small amount). But I don't like those, either. :smallbiggrin:

Fredthefighter

2009-03-09, 12:34 PM

I'm glad I'm not the only one who habitually misspells a specific word. Mine is "terrific". I just did it wrong when I tried to write it there - I ALWAYS want to say "teriffic". WHY?!?!

Edit: Freddyfoo asked if fizzy (carbonated) drinks had caffeine. Yes, many do (although you can buy decaffeinated varieties, they still have a small amount). But I don't like those, either. :smallbiggrin:

I'll just stick with Cola (Not Coca-Cola or Pepsi, just the normal stuff you can buy), Lemonade, Blackcurrant juice and Orange juice (Or Squash)

Quincunx

2009-03-09, 12:37 PM

Fredthefighter

2009-03-09, 12:40 PM

Fredthefighter: I don't know about tears, but that line about ". . .I should never have said things like "If it weren't for you". Without you I'd just be another lonely guy taking his fifty bucks and blowing it all in one night. . ." was inspired. I'd expect someone to have dreamed and grieved themselves before being able to write that. Well done.

The Rose Dragon: Thank you for the clean banter title. We did need a bit of alliteration detox.

The saga of the screwdriver has ended. If anyone needs me, I'll be resetting the timing on my sewing machine--again.

Thankyou, that means a lot coming from you. Alas, the only grieving I have done was for my Grandfather, who passed away in January. I was sad, but not "I must write something" sad. It was an "on-the-spot" task that took place in 5 to 10 minutes.
I have another poem if you would like to hear it, although it is a bit more "sappy-romance-mush".

Haruki-kun

2009-03-09, 12:46 PM

The Rose Dragon: Thank you for the clean banter title. We did need a bit of alliteration detox.

I disagree. It's been over 100 threads of silly titles.

*sniff* :smallfrown:

Fredthefighter

2009-03-09, 12:50 PM

I disagree. It's been over 100 threads of silly titles.

*sniff* :smallfrown:

Don't worry, 49 more pages and we can have a new thread with a silly title. :smallbiggrin:

Jack Squat

2009-03-09, 12:57 PM

I actually like the plain ol' RB title. Besides not having the same thing that caused Roland St. Jude's Banter a few back, everything fits in the Title bar.

Alleine

2009-03-09, 01:10 PM

It is refreshing.
Now everyone take a deep breath of that clean, new thread air!
*Inhales deeply*
Ack! Hurnnngh! Not quite as clean as I thought!
*cough* *cough*
*wheeze*
Oh, what a world!
*falls over*

Fredthefighter

2009-03-09, 01:15 PM

Alleine

2009-03-09, 01:16 PM

*wakes up*

I'm WET! I'm wet and I'm hysterical!Someone had better get this or I will be upset

Fredthefighter

2009-03-09, 01:18 PM

*wakes up*

I'm WET! I'm wet and I'm hysterical!Someone had better get this or I will be upset

Yes, yes you are.
*Throws towel at*
There is only one thing you need to be a galactic hitchhiker, all you need is a towel.
*Withdraws second towel*

Em Blackleaf

2009-03-09, 01:38 PM

The Rose Dragon: Thank you for the clean banter title. We did need a bit of alliteration detox.
But, every Random Banter needs an alliterative title! Or at least a creative one.

Just so you know, I really tried to make this post one big alliteration. I should get an A for effort. :smalltongue:

Fredthefighter

2009-03-09, 01:44 PM

But, every Random Banter needs an alliterative title! Or at least a creative one.

Just so you know, I really tried to make this post one big alliteration. I should get an A for effort. :smalltongue:

Don't worry, you do. *Thumbs up*
*Pretends to be a superhero*
Because everyone wanted to be a superhero at one point.
The Ghost haunts the night, ready to strike when evil rears its ugly head from the shadows.

Dallas-Dakota

2009-03-09, 01:46 PM

Em, your alliteration about me in the Have you heard of me thread was already fantastic.
*gives Em a A for Alliterations*
*gives Em a 1 for Alliterations*
*Gives Em a 10 for Alliterations*

Ha! Gave you a perfect mark in three different grading system.
The English one, the german one and the dutch one!

The Rose Dragon

2009-03-09, 02:55 PM

But, every Random Banter needs an alliterative title! Or at least a creative one.

Not true. There have been several RBs with simply the name of the first poster and Random Banter #(insert number here). I simply took it one step further and removed the name part.

The title does not a good Random Banter make. That's the job of the banter.

Fredthefighter

2009-03-09, 02:56 PM

Not true. There have been several RBs with simply the name of the first poster and Random Banter #(insert number here). I simply took it one step further and removed the name part.

The title does not a good Random Banter make. That's the job of the banter.

Yes, but an interesting title promotes posting in the thread, it draws people in, whether they are new blood or long-time members.

The Rose Dragon

2009-03-09, 03:07 PM

I don't know, I remember some pretty amazing Random Banters that followed the Name's Random Banter #Number formula for the title.

Sub_Zero

2009-03-09, 03:10 PM

Yes, but an interesting title promotes posting in the thread, it draws people in, whether they are new blood or long-time members.

I dunno, I quite like having a simple random banter name. A long name wouldn't really draw me into a thread, it'd make me think what is this madness, leave me alone.

Fredthefighter

2009-03-09, 03:11 PM

I don't know, I remember some pretty amazing Random Banters that followed the Name's Random Banter #Number formula for the title.

I'm not saying about content. I'm talking about face value, without exploring the thread.
Example
Random Forumite looks at the names of two threads, one is called "Random Banter (Insert random number)", the other is called "Amazingly Awesome and Totally Righteous Random Banter of the Gods". Which are they more likely to click on?
Answer: The second one. Attracting new customers is all about image. I don't like using business terms here but I feel I have to.

Sub-Zero, that is your opinion. Some people enjoy the madness of Random Banter.

Alleine

2009-03-09, 03:13 PM

I reject your reality and substitute it with my own.

Sub_Zero

2009-03-09, 03:18 PM

Sub-Zero, that is your opinion. Some people enjoy the madness of Random Banter.

Isn't people's opinion what we're talking about here though....
or does mine not count

Fredthefighter

2009-03-09, 03:22 PM

Isn't people's opinion what we're talking about here though....
or does mine not count

Sorry, I apologise, I'm just saying a nice and entertaining title (as long as it isn't too long) can be the key to attracting new Random Banterites and may or may not encourage older Random Banterites to post either A) More Often or B) More enthusiastically.

CurlyKitGirl

2009-03-09, 03:24 PM

purple gelatinous cube o' Doom

2009-03-09, 03:27 PM

What, no witty character name title???? I sure hope this doesn't become a trend. It makes RB less enticing.

Fredthefighter

2009-03-09, 03:33 PM

Carried over from last thread:

Why all the Romantic hate? They're really easy to analyse if you remember the main themes and some key events.
After that you just lie your way through it all. Like me. Anything can be said as long as you make a link to a theme or event or it makes sense.

I've also become employed as a tutor in three subjects. Money? I has you.

I also found out when my May/June exams are. All three of my French exams start the same time. On the same day. And each one last for an hour or two.
I've got somewhere around four hours of French. Back to back that day. :smallwearenotamused:
Oh well.

I haven't really looked at any romance novels. So I know next to nothing of the genre.
Also, the tutoring is a good thing, good for you. *Thumbs up*
I've also got May/June exams, but I've also got March/April exams. Which includes my French Oral (Real one this time) and my Drama Final Exam. I'm looking forward to Drama because the stimuli/stimulae, are a large extract of West Side Story and Brick in the Wall by Pink Floyd. I'm more happy about the second one. :smallbiggrin:
June is going to be the killer month though, I've got a good 7+ exams that month as well as my birthday, fortunately, I don't have an exam on my birthday.
Also, I did my Maths M9 exam today (Level 9: A-Grade) and I must say, the first paper seemed too easy, although I'm probably just being paranoid.
The crowning moment to my day (Which others already know about) was English this morning (Only 20mins left after Maths exam).
We were asked to write a tribute to Lennie (from Of Mice and Men) from the viewpoint of George. It was a quick ten minute excercise.
This is what I wrote.
Lennie, I'm sorry for everything, for all the things I've done to you, for all the mean things I've said to you, for all the times I've got mad at you. I should never have said things like "If it weren't for you". I realise now that you were never a burden, you were a gift, without you, I'd just be taking my fifty bucks and blowing it all in one night. You gave me a dream, something for us to look forward to and now you're living that dream in heaven.
Rest in peace my friend.
I got a lot of praise for that, a girl in my class asked me to write something like that when she died, which although creepy filled me with quite a bit of pride.

Quincunx

2009-03-09, 03:43 PM

Fredthefighter: I know a bit more about your loves than your grief, and so there's less chance of me being startled by what you wrote. Still, I'm frequently on the lookout for new verses. Do share.

Fredthefighter

2009-03-09, 03:48 PM

Fredthefighter: I know a bit more about your loves than your grief, and so there's less chance of me being startled by what you wrote. Still, I'm frequently on the lookout for new verses. Do share.

Just let me find the book I wrote it down in. Ah, found it.
It is in lights' grace that a man can truly love,
But it is only in shadows' anger that he truly hates.
Yet it is in both darkness and effervescent light that I trule love thee.
Thine wondrous beauty is both awe inspiring and intimidating,
For thou art a marvellous being born from both sides of the coin,
And I would give everything, even my last breath, to be near you for just one moment of time.

Also, please, call me Fred, or Frederick, or Freddyfoo. I go by all of those names.

CurlyKitGirl

2009-03-09, 03:48 PM

I haven't really looked at any romance novels. So I know next to nothing of the genre.

:smallannoyed: No. Not romance but Romantic. As in: the Romantic movement dating from the 1750s with the publisihng of the Lyrical Ballads of Wordsworth and Coleridge (author of the infamous Kubla Khan) to such famous poets as John Keats (To Autumn); Percy Shelley and Lord Byron.
This was told to you in the previous thread.
ANd I do not read romance. ANd why would I mention studying it in college; I'd hardly talk about themes and analysis of such tawdry stuff as Mills and Boon would I?
The Romantic period is very important as it was a counter to the Age of Enlightenment which was very scientific and driven by the Industrial Revolution and exploration. Its main themes were the sublime (the awesome (in the literal, not slang definition), especially the power and beauty of nature; aestheticism; Greek and Roman mythology; Love; immortality; the transcience of humanity; nature as nature and death.
It can be seen as directly inspiring certain aspects of the Gothic genre (dudes and dudettes, check out the Shelley), especially the descriptions of wild nature/nature as an imposing/negative force cf. Wuthering Heights. Modernism and post - modernism can also be said to be directly descended from Romanticism as Oscar Wilde's favourite poet was Keats: "he walks eternal in the heavens with the Greeks and Shakespeare" (paraphrased) and T. S. Eliot also loved Keats, although he had some misgivings about the final two lines of Ode on a Grecian Urn. Which, by the way, is probably where we get our phrase "truth is beauty, beauty truth/ That is all ye know and all ye need to know on earth".
Again, quoting from memory, so this may not be exact.
And I personally find Keats' poems wonderful and evocative. Especially his six odes and Lamia which were all written in one summer; many of his other narrative poems (practically every schoolchild in the UK does La Belle Dame Sans Merci - or should do). ANd his sonnets can be beautiful too.
One of my favourite ever quotes (which now adorn my schoolbag) is "silent upon a peak in Darien".
For the last eight or so months all my MSN personal messages have generally been Keats quotes.
Or Bowie ones.
At the moment it lists some names for Satan. In a fairly call proclamation. Atleast, I think so, your mileage may vary.
[/rant about something which I am well versed in and am annoyed at that someone forgot what Romanticism is even though he was told less then twenty hours ago]

We were asked to write a tribute to Lennie (from Of Mice and Men) from the viewpoint of George. It was a quick ten minute excercise.
This is what I wrote.
Lennie, I'm sorry for everything, for all the things I've done to you, for all the mean things I've said to you, for all the times I've got mad at you. I should never have said things like "If it weren't for you". I realise now that you were never a burden, you were a gift, without you, I'd just be taking my fifty bucks and blowing it all in one night. You gave me a dream, something for us to look forward to and now you're living that dream in heaven.
Rest in peace my friend.
I got a lot of praise for that, a girl in my class asked me to write something like that when she died, which although creepy filled me with quite a bit of pride.

And again. I can read. It's my main attribute. I just chose not to comment on it.
It's okay though; but POV's a bit strange. It could flow better, but the concepts and phrasing of certain clauses is something I'd expect in famous and well acclaimed authors. However, I've noticed that you really do need to work on fluidity in your works.

Fredthefighter

2009-03-09, 03:53 PM

:smallannoyed: No. Not romance but Romantic. As in: the Romantic movement dating from the 1750s with the publisihng of the Lyrical Ballads of Wordsworth and Coleridge (author of the infamous Kubla Khan) to such famous poets as John Keats (To Autumn); Percy Shelley and Lord Byron.
This was told to you in the previous thread.
ANd I do not read romance. ANd why would I mention studying it in college; I'd hardly talk about themes and analysis of such tawdry stuff as Mills and Boon would I?
The Romantic period is very important as it was a counter to the Age of Enlightenment which was very scientific and driven by the Industrial Revolution and exploration. Its main themes were the sublime (the awesome (in the literal, not slang definition), especially the power and beauty of nature; aestheticism; Greek and Roman mythology; Love; immortality; the transcience of humanity; nature as nature and death.
It can be seen as directly inspiring certain aspects of the Gothic genre (dudes and dudettes, check out the Shelley), especially the descriptions of wild nature/nature as an imposing/negative force cf. Wuthering Heights. Modernism and post - modernism can also be said to be directly descended from Romanticism as Oscar Wilde's favourite poet was Keats: "he walks eternam in the heavens with the Greeks and Shakespeare" (paraphrased) and T. S. Eliot also loved Keats, although he had some misgivings about the final two lines of Ode on a Grecian Urn. Which, by the way, is probably where we get our phrase "truth is beauty, beauty truth/ That is all ye know and all ye need to know on earth".
Again, quoting from memory, so this may not be exact.
And I personally find Keats' poems wonderful and evocative. Especially his six odes and Lamia which were all written in one summer; many of his other narrative poems (practically every schoolchild in the UK does La Belle Dame Sans Merci - or should do). ANd his sonnets can be beautiful too.
One of my favourite ever quotes (which now adorn my schoolbag) is "silent upon a peak in Darien".
For the last eight or so months all my MSN personal messages have generally been Keats quotes.
Or Bowie ones.
At the moment it lists some names for Satan. In a fairly call proclamation. Atleast, I think so, your mileage may vary.
[/rant about something which I am well versed in and am annoyed at that someone forgot what Romanticism is even though he was told less then twenty hours ago]

And again. I can read. It's my main attribute. I just chose not to comment on it.
It's okay though; but POV's a bit strange. It could flow better, but the concepts and phrasing of certain clauses is something I'd expect in famous and well acclaimed authors. However, I've noticed that you really do need to work on fluidity in your works.

Sorry, I apologise, twice.
Thanks for the famous author bit though, I didn't think it was that good, just good enough for me to be proud of. I'm a reader not a writer.
Also, POV? I understand, fluidity is my main problem, I have a tendency to "waffle on a bit".

Phaedra

2009-03-09, 03:56 PM

Kaelaroth

2009-03-09, 03:59 PM

A Kaela update? Well, nicely named new thread, you can most certainly have one, what with you being so darned lovely and clean, and not.. cluttered. Not faking the "madFUNlulz" of other threads. :smallsigh: I'm doing well. Still can't finish the fracking Bell Jar. Lessons going well, and, um..
...
This update is getting much tiresome. Screw it.
*hugs Koorly*

Phase

2009-03-09, 04:06 PM

*wakes up*

I'm WET! I'm wet and I'm hysterical!Someone had better get this or I will be upset

Don't worry, I get it. I was watching it on demand just a few days ago. :smallbiggrin:

CurlyKitGirl

2009-03-09, 04:11 PM

@Fred: snarky SnarlKoorly/LiteraryKoorly came to the front. She's picky when it comes to literary movements. And I have seen famous authors write something similar to that.
And it was silly you made the same mistake in less than eighteen hours.
POV: yes, it's abstract, but any particular character riving it?

Happily I never had to study Romantic poetry, I just read it in my own time. I'm sure it's pretty easy to analyse though, it's very structured and thematic which is really the recipe for easy literary criticism. But being easy to analyse doesn't mean I have to like it. I got full marks for my A-Level exam on Frankenstein (Romanticism in novel form!) but I maintain that it's one of the worst novels I've ever read. It's always struck me as perhaps 10 pages of decent writing with the rest being Mary Shelley going "Gosh, aren't mountains pretty?", which may partly be excused by the fact that it was a short story she made longer but it's still dull. [/Rant]

I love the stuff.
And it's true about the easy thing. I can't abide by modern poetry and people say it's easy. So . . . so . . . so!
Frankenstein's a good book, but it'd definitely be a lot better is she axed or at least halved some, if not all, the nature scenes. I can see the dullness though; the actual pace didn't pick up until roughly half way through if I remember correctly.
This years AS students (new syllabus) are doin g Frankenstein; but comparing it to another book of their choice from that genre out of a choice of Dracula, Dorian Gray, Wuthering Heights (I think) and another one.
That'd be quite cool.

Congrats on the tutoring! Hope it goes well. I guess you're tutoring English?

English Language, English Literature and French. For the middle one I'd need the texts a week or so before I got down to the teaching. I'm not sure of proper tutor - y charges, so it's £5 - 7 an hour. Quite reasonable I think.

And I have the freakiest homework I only just remembered I had to do today. It's in French. ABout a picture and article about a Muslim Barbie.
No in - depth discussion. Just odd as homework yes?

@Kaela: any reason for the hug? *hugs back*

PhoeKun

2009-03-09, 04:13 PM

Chiming in for the first time in years!

Romantic poetry is beautiful. I spent a lot of time in school reading it and I never stopped being amazed by the works of the poets of the age. I'm less enamored of the fiction of the time, but that's true of every era for me.

Also: I hate that the word "romance" is taken to have such negative connotations anymore. Remember when it didn't mean some trashy pulp novel about a sweet and sensitive man learning to love again in the gentle arms of his new lover? Remember when it was about adventure and excitement, and the triumph of great men and women? Remember Chretien de Trois? I do. *sniffle*

Also also: today, I became officially broke. I have no job, and now $42 to my name. Whee!

Fredthefighter

2009-03-09, 04:15 PM

Kaelaroth

2009-03-09, 04:17 PM

@Kaela: any reason for the hug? *hugs back*

Oh, there're reasons for everything, nearly, I'd imagine. Even in space.
How're you? I realise, of course, that you're staying intelligent, and feeling perhaps a tiny bit annoyed with a number of things, because people always are, and that you're probably either enjoying weather or not enjoying weather, so I'm hoping for an answer than has something that can make me cry, or want to kill Fred again, or burn down a building, or get me to write, again. Hopefully.

Oh! An anecdote! Essay competition - I remembered half past eleven last night, and spewed one out. W00t. Now, however, I have to read it out. In front of people. A few of whom I fancy. Oy.

@Phoe: Oy! *offers condolences* Elaborate?

Fredthefighter

2009-03-09, 04:21 PM

Oh, there're reasons for everything, nearly, I'd imagine. Even in space.
How're you? I realise, of course, that you're staying intelligent, and feeling perhaps a tiny bit annoyed with a number of things, because people always are, and that you're probably either enjoying weather or not enjoying weather, so I'm hoping for an answer than has something that can make me cry, or want to kill Fred again, or burn down a building, or get me to write, again. Hopefully.

Oh! An anecdote! Essay competition - I remembered half past eleven last night, and spewed one out. W00t. Now, however, I have to read it out. In front of people. A few of whom I fancy. Oy.

@Phoe: Oy! *offers condolences* Elaborate?

Please don't kill me. I don't want an argument or a fight or even a "creative discussion".
Also, why is it you want to kill me so much?
Point 3: Phoe, that's rough, I wish there was something I could do, but there isn't. All I can do is as Kaelaroth said, offer condolences.

Kaelaroth

2009-03-09, 04:23 PM

Please don't kill me. I don't want an argument or a fight or even a "creative discussion".
Also, why is it you want to kill me so much?

See this song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9xZlVJkMUw)? She's singing about me.

Quincunx

2009-03-09, 04:26 PM

Phaedra: Hours spent on a train far surpass the same number of hours spent on a bus. Count the blessing of being able to read without getting motion-sick!

Kaelaroth: . . .At least it's short?

I can't help you on finding out what teachers may want out of The Bell Jar; that was summer reading for the year I changed high schools. Suppose you could discuss whether shallow (like the other debutantes' spirit/mind) is the same as empty (the narrator's spirit/mind) is the same as sterile (the space under a bell jar).

Fredthefighter: Thanks for the familiarity, but for labeling multiple responses in one post, sticking to the forum name, odd characters and spacing included, is the most clear method.

I won't tidy this into paragraphs, but will leave it as a stream of consciousness, a yammering conversation among a writers' circle. On a scale of criticism from one to five*, that should place it at about a three, instead of my usual four to four-point-five.

That isn't a poem.
Why not? It's one complete thought, too private for prose, and too refined for ordinary language.
Is it? . . .
. . .Too refined? Maybe not. But otherwise, yes, it's a poem.
In translation, perhaps.
Odi et amo? . . .
Heh. Yes. Our good friend Catullus. Wasn't he more terse than that?
Yes. And this proto-poem could use some pruning, but not to the extent it becomes only a translation of Odi et amo. After all, if it were, we'd only be reading the middle two lines.
The first two lines--the first couplet--are balanced. But are they necessary to write out? Couldn't they be implied?
This--is not--Catullus! Invoking those lines of duality is as necessary to this author as Homer's call to the muse!
Not just this author.
Heh.
(a few moments' silence among the circle, someone's feet scuffing the carpet)
. . .Men.
Yes.
. . .The poem--
--Proto-poem--
Line five implies the first couplet. If this were being tightened for publication, one of them would have to go. Line five is more compact, it says both that there's duality, which took two lines to say earlier, and that she's born of the duality.
It could still stay, though.
It could. There should be more in the first couplet, though, if line five stays.
Line six is six-and-seven.
It's too long for the form.
What form? It's free verse.
The form of one major thought on every line! Five has a major and a minor thought. Six has. . .
Tautologies.
Oof. Yes. I see. That's time mentioned three times in one line and once would be quite enough.
Can't we just cut line six entirely? If the reader can't assume the fact of the speaker's longing for the lady by this point, I'd be inclined to call them deaf and blind--
THIS--IS NOT--CATULLUS!
Well of course not, but it doesn't need to be sprawling Hallmark either, it's not like there's a meter or rhyme to pad out. . .

*On the intensity of feedback:

One: I read it and acknowledge that I read it.
Two: I read it and here's a few things I like about it.
Three: Here's a few things I like and a few I dislike.
Four: I'm an amateur, not an editor, but I'd change this before you submit it. . .
Five: Do this, this, and this, and get this published.

Kaelaroth

2009-03-09, 04:31 PM

Kaelaroth: . . .At least it's short?

I can't help you on finding out what teachers may want out of The Bell Jar; that was summer reading for the year I changed high schools. Suppose you could discuss whether shallow (like the other debutantes' spirit/mind) is the same as empty (the narrator's spirit/mind) is the same as sterile (the space under a bell jar)

'tis no school assignment. 'tis me trying to read it. 'tis me failing to read it. 'tis such a darned pity; I love her poetry so very much. Along with Anne Sexton's of course, I see them hand in hand.

Edge

2009-03-09, 04:35 PM

This years AS students (new syllabus) are doing Frankenstein; but comparing it to another book of their choice from that genre out of a choice of Dracula, Dorian Gray, Wuthering Heights (I think) and another one.
That'd be quite cool.

Can I just say... lucky so-and-sos. AS English Lit I got analyse A Woman of No Importance by Oscar Wilde (yay!) and Spies by Michael-bloody-Frayn.

Can I just say: most boring, pointless book in the history of mankind. Seriously. Just... urgh... GET OVER YOUR FIXATION WITH THE SMELL OF PRIVET ALREADY!

:smallsigh:

Yes, the smell of privet is a recurring theme in the book. Yes, that's right. Not a device, but a theme. Plus there's no real plot resolution, and...

Y'know, I could go on all night, but it'd just be a waste of everyone's time.

Fredthefighter

2009-03-09, 04:37 PM

Kaelaroth

2009-03-09, 04:41 PM

I understood very little about that. I'm 15, I don't know who Catullus is. I don't know what tautologies are. I have barely any clue on the works of Homer, despite having heard about him.
I'm not a poetry guy, I like fantasy books. Salvatore, Tolkein, Rowling, Rick Riordan, Horowitz, Paolini, Colfer, Pullman, Pratchett, Nathan Long, William King, Kazuki Takahashi, Stan Lee, etc, etc. These people are my idols, true, I have respect for Shakespeare and Byron, but I prefer to immerse myself in a fantasy world of goblins and ghouls, wizards and warriors, heroes and villains. Where the limit of the world is my own imagination and the words the writer has written.

Tautology? The (needless) repetition of themes, words, or ideas.
Age is no excuse.
Homer is very, very good. Read him.
Salvatore; I haven't read enough to comment. Tolkein; Meh. Rowling; Why of course. Riordan; Oh, the Greek(y) ones? They're kinda sweet. In a cute way. Horowitz; you should be over him by now. Paolini; meh. Colfer; funny. Pullman; if you didn't like him, I WOULD kill you. Pratchett; same as Pullman. And I grow tired of this game.

Although I suggest you wikipedia Catullus.

Rutskarn

2009-03-09, 04:46 PM

Isaac Asimov is a god amongst writers and people alike.

Yes, I did just accidentally imply that writers weren't people.

Yes, I do consider myself a writer.

Yes, I did commit that offense on the night of the--oh ho ho, almost got me there.

CurlyKitGirl

2009-03-09, 04:46 PM

@Phoe: you could class that as Arthurian Romance which completely separates it from modern tripe. But I lament those days also.
Poor Gawain. Poor Launcelot. Poor Arthur. Actually, Poor Arthur in any sense.
And I'm glad there's someone else who like the ROmantic poets. I was able to quote more than half of Kubla Khan back in December for some unknown reason. Ah laudenum. What haven't you done for English Literature?

Oh, there're reasons for everything, nearly, I'd imagine. Even in space.
How're you? I realise, of course, that you're staying intelligent, and feeling perhaps a tiny bit annoyed with a number of things, because people always are, and that you're probably either enjoying weather or not enjoying weather, so I'm hoping for an answer than has something that can make me cry, or want to kill Fred again, or burn down a building, or get me to write, again. Hopefully.

Intelligent staying, yes. Annoyed, naturally, It's Koorly here. Annoyed with the weather - more heavy rain.
So: how about another rant then?
So, y'all know I'm reading Paradise Lost, then plan to move onto the Bible, then Paradise Regained, then The Divine COmedy which is a completely anachronistic order I know, but when I tell my friends or just even people I know they say the most moronic facile things.
"Who's Milton?"
"What're they?" (not referring to the Bible)
"What's an epic poem?" (a teeny bit more understandable, but can't you guess?)
"Isn't the Devil the hero?" No. He's the protagonist, as in main character, but even the best or most sympathetic interpretation puts him as the anti - hero. Or to trope it: sympathetic villain protagonist. In parts.
Then you find out he raped his born - like - Athene daughter (or is directly said to be exactly like him in looks, but female - so twincesty narcissim or ickyness), called Sin. She Fell for no reason and gave birth to Death or promptly stalked, chased and raped his own mother and she gave birth to a pack of hellhounds who live inside her womb and eat her insides every single day for all eternity!
ALthough Jesus gets his own flaming chariot and spear of awesome!
Then I'm asked "Aren't they like, one hundred years old or something?" At which point I'm three brain cells from commiting academic murder.
FInally a sensible person says, "Oh, Paradise Regained. That's the one about the Temptation of Jesus isn't it?" at which point I relax and slowly simmer in repressed something.
Next load of friends actually, although not having read them, or ever intend to, at least know a fair bit around about the subject. We spent ages discussing the protrayal of Satan, devils and general evil in media.
I loved telling them all the various names for Satan, their origins and angel names.
I'm such a geek.
Oh yah. Worst comment about my future literature: "What an effing Bible bashing freak."
At which point I promptly erased them from any list which I have compiled aside frm : When I Ascend Upon Whom Shall Doom Be Brought First?
Stupid idiot.
Oh! ANother good one: "SO is the COmedy funny then?" This is after I tell them it's about someones journey from Hell to Heaven. Written in the fourteenth century.

Oh! An anecdote! Essay competition - I remembered half past eleven last night, and spewed one out. W00t. Now, however, I have to read it out. In front of people. A few of whom I fancy. Oy.

Fredthefighter

2009-03-09, 04:48 PM

Tautology? The (needless) repetition of themes, words, or ideas.
Age is no excuse.
Homer is very, very good. Read him.
Salvatore; I haven't read enough to comment. Tolkein; Meh. Rowling; Why of course. Riordan; Oh, the Greek(y) ones? They're kinda sweet. In a cute way. Horowitz; you should be over him by now. Paolini; meh. Colfer; funny. Pullman; if you didn't like him, I WOULD kill you. Pratchett; same as Pullman. And I grow tired of this game.

Although I suggest you wikipedia Catullus.

Okay, Tolkein: Sort of agreeing, I don't think I could read them twice, the Hobbit isn't bad though. Rowling: Harry Potter was good but I don't think I could read them all again. Riordan: I quite like the Greek(y) ones, but I wouldn't say they're amazing. Horowitz: I mean his Power of Five series, not Alex Rider. Colfer: Yes, he is funny. Pullman: Are you kidding? Of course I like Phillip Pullman, he's bloody brilliant! Pratchett: Same as Pullman.
I said age because I meant that I haven't been taught or even heard of most of the terminology used.
Okay, I'm going to Wikipedia Catullus/Catillus. Also, I'll look Homer up.

Sneak

2009-03-09, 04:50 PM

I like the simplistic thread title.

Anyway, as long as we're on authors...anyone read any Murakami? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haruki_Murakami) I've heard good things about him and his work seems interesting enough. Specifically interested in Kafka on the Shore and A Wild Sheep Chase, but I'm willing to try anything.

Kaelaroth

2009-03-09, 04:54 PM

So, y'all know I'm reading Paradise Lost, then plan to move onto the Bible, then Paradise Regained, then The Divine COmedy which is a completely anachronistic order I know, but when I tell my friends or just even people I know they say the most moronic facile things.
"Who's Milton?"
"What're they?" (not referring to the Bible)
"What's an epic poem?" (a teeny bit more understandable, but can't you guess?)
"Isn't the Devil the hero?" No. He's the protagonist, as in main character, but even the best or most sympathetic interpretation puts him as the anti - hero. Or to trope it: sympathetic villain protagonist. In parts.
Then you find out he raped his born - like - Athene daughter (or is directly said to be exactly like him in looks, but female - so twincesty narcissim or ickyness), called Sin. She Fell for no reason and gave birth to Death or promptly stalked, chased and raped his own mother and she gave birth to a pack of hellhounds who live inside her womb and eat her insides every single day for all eternity!
ALthough Jesus gets his own flaming chariot and spear of awesome!
Then I'm asked "Aren't they like, one hundred years old or something?" At which point I'm three brain cells from commiting academic murder.
FInally a sensible person says, "Oh, Paradise Regained. That's the one about the Temptation of Jesus isn't it?" at which point I relax and slowly simmer in repressed something.
Next load of friends actually, although not having read them, or ever intend to, at least know a fair bit around about the subject. We spent ages discussing the protrayal of Satan, devils and general evil in media.

This is, of course, why Bridget Jones told us all not to mix species of friends, or to introduce species of friends to foodstuffs or environments that are entirely alien to their own.

...
*nodnod*

Phaedra

2009-03-09, 04:55 PM

I won't tidy this into paragraphs, but will leave it as a stream of consciousness, a yammering conversation among a writers' circle. On a scale of criticism from one to five*, that should place it at about a three, instead of my usual four to four-point-five.

That isn't a poem.
Why not? It's one complete thought, too private for prose, and too refined for ordinary language.
Is it? . . .
. . .Too refined? Maybe not. But otherwise, yes, it's a poem.
In translation, perhaps.
Odi et amo? . . .
Heh. Yes. Our good friend Catullus. Wasn't he more terse than that?
Yes. And this proto-poem could use some pruning, but not to the extent it becomes only a translation of Odi et amo. After all, if it were, we'd only be reading the middle two lines.
The first two lines--the first couplet--are balanced. But are they necessary to write out? Couldn't they be implied?
This--is not--Catullus! Invoking those lines of duality is as necessary to this author as Homer's call to the muse!
Not just this author.
Heh.
(a few moments' silence among the circle, someone's feet scuffing the carpet)
. . .Men.
Yes.
. . .The poem--
--Proto-poem--
Line five implies the first couplet. If this were being tightened for publication, one of them would have to go. Line five is more compact, it says both that there's duality, which took two lines to say earlier, and that she's born of the duality.
It could still stay, though.
It could. There should be more in the first couplet, though, if line five stays.
Line six is six-and-seven.
It's too long for the form.
What form? It's free verse.
The form of one major thought on every line! Five has a major and a minor thought. Six has. . .
Tautologies.
Oof. Yes. I see. That's time mentioned three times in one line and once would be quite enough.
Can't we just cut line six entirely? If the reader can't assume the fact of the speaker's longing for the lady by this point, I'd be inclined to call them deaf and blind--
THIS--IS NOT--CATULLUS!
Well of course not, but it doesn't need to be sprawling Hallmark either, it's not like there's a meter or rhyme to pad out. . .

*On the intensity of feedback:

One: I read it and acknowledge that I read it.
Two: I read it and here's a few things I like about it.
Three: Here's a few things I like and a few I dislike.
Four: I'm an amateur, not an editor, but I'd change this before you submit it. . .
Five: Do this, this, and this, and get this published.

Hmmm. I like this. Reminds me a little of Leonard Cohen's commentaries on his poetry in one of his anthologies. It's a conversation among poets/critics? Without being told that I'd have assumed it was a kind of mental argument on the part of the poet involved, editing their poem, but that assumption probably says more about me than about the work. Without knowing a bit more about the aim of the work though, I'm not sure how well I can criticise, sorry.

@Fred: Catullus (http://www.negenborn.net/catullus/) was a Roman poet, famed for his poems addressed to the lady "Lesbia". They're very good, you should read them if you get the time.

A tautology is a pair or set or words which say the same thing, making the use of both or all of them redundant: Tautology (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tautology?qsrc=2888)

Edit: Gah, ninja'd several times over on Catullus and tautologies. That'll teach me to chat and attempt to write a post at the same time.

Fredthefighter

2009-03-09, 04:59 PM

=

@Fred: Catullus (http://www.negenborn.net/catullus/) was a Roman poet, famed for his poems addressed to the lady "Lesbia". They're very good, you should read them if you get the time.

A tautology is a pair or set or words which say the same thing, making the use of both or all of them redundant: Tautology (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tautology?qsrc=2888)

I know, I just used wikipedia to find out. Also, thanks for the tautology explanation.
Anyway, people, I must bid you all a fond farewell, I have to go to sleep now. Thankyou for the lessons in poetry, although I think I shall stick to Pratchett and the Shadowrun novels for now, until I can get into some Homer and Catullus.

Quincunx

2009-03-09, 05:01 PM

Exactly so, Phaedra--I just called it a circle as an oversimplification. You've read enough to know when someone isn't varying their voice or viewpoint.

If it helps your research, Odi et amo is Catullus 85; his poems were numbered instead of named. Wikipedia has very simplistic, very literal translations of the Latin poems I've checked so far, good for raw material. I do wish I hadn't misplaced my copy of Dorothea Wender's translations of Roman poems though. She had a gift for snappy, if not faithful to the original, verse forms.

[EDIT: A caution. If you're planning to write more poetry, be choosy about your reading material. Poetry cross-pollinates even worse than prose does. If you read a chunk of similar poetry at one sitting, it'll warp your output until it looks more like what you've been reading. Just make sure to read poems that are at least a little bit better than what you can imagine writing yourself. Don't settle for "accessible" verse.]

Kaelaroth

2009-03-09, 05:02 PM

Sleep? It's ten o'clock.
...
Bit early.
All I'm saying.
<.<
>.>
Jeez.
You know what I hate? The sky. It's so big. And, sure, that sounds crazy. But it's this huge, angry incorporeal shell, trapping us to its imagined fates.

Quincunx

2009-03-09, 05:13 PM

Kaelaroth

2009-03-09, 05:16 PM

It isn't trapping us any more, Kaelaroth. A civilian has touched the edge of space without a whiff of government support. Hm. . .Touched the edge of space. That could be iambic. On the other hand, it's already been written (http://www.time.com/time/reports/space/disaster1.html). There goes that contamination I was warning against. Maybe you should just get a flying license and a parasail.

Prove it. Space? The final frontier? Or a transient semi-deity, with wings as blue as forget-me-nots, and eyes as stormy as the choppy Irish sea, which curls about our fair navy orb with malice in its conspiratorial expression. It forces the weak to work for it, it enslaves the birds, and the bees.
And the hellflaming government.

Quincunx

2009-03-09, 05:31 PM

I'm sorry, but I am having more trouble than should be expected with the idea of a hollow sphere of a god. The idea of the sphere of earth having a soul? Easy-peasy. The idea of the jacketed, ungodly space being an object of worship? Not so easy. I could just as easily bow down before a soap bubble or a glass bottle. That being said, comets trailing out of the corners of eyes squinted into slits against the astral wind works perfectly well.

CurlyKitGirl

2009-03-09, 06:00 PM

That feeling there that you're feeling there Kaela is the sublime power of nature. That's how Romantic poets often felt.
And the sky has been personified many times over in mythology. Egyptian has Nut, goddess of the sky and Horus, ruler of the sky; Ouranos in Greece and Zeus the cloud gatherer of the Iliad, so naturally Jupiter in Roman; Veranos somewhere in Asia; Tian (sky father) in China. Raginui the sky father of Maori mythology embraced Papatuanuku (earth mother) and begat divine children.
And they're all direct personifications of or rulers of the sky.
Admittedly, this is peronsifying rather then the sky being one, but it was the same thing to them really.
I don't think that really answered anything much did it?

Kaelaroth

2009-03-09, 06:26 PM

Recaiden

2009-03-09, 06:37 PM

*ahem*
I think, my dear Koorly, that our friend Turner would want us to refer to it as the Sublime with a capital S, not some lower case division of nature, eh? After all, the Sublime is so much more than the.. the.. wilder, scarier side of nature. The sublime is rage, power, primordial iridescence, as Thomas Hardy said, the prime apposite to the weak Pastoral ushered in by humanity.

I don't like that definition. Let's change it. Humanity isn't always Pastoral, so we need a new Sublime. The sky does seem pretty powerful, so I can see where Kaela might be coming from.

CurlyKitGirl

2009-03-09, 06:38 PM

*ahem*
I think, my dear Koorly, that our friend Turner would want us to refer to it as the Sublime with a capital S, not some lower case division of nature, eh? After all, the Sublime is so much more than the.. the.. wilder, scarier side of nature. The sublime is rage, power, primordial iridescence, as Thomas Hardy said, the prime apposite to the weak Pastoral ushered in by humanity.

I has been owned.
Yup, Kael beat the Book Geek at her own game.
Though only on a very technical technicality.
Take long? :smlltongue:

Kaelaroth

2009-03-09, 06:48 PM

I has been owned.
Yup, Kael beat the Book Geek at her own game.
Though only on a very technical technicality.
Take long? :smlltongue:

Would it detract from my intellectual points if I said my lateness was due to watching Heroes? :smalltongue:

Thufir

2009-03-09, 06:52 PM

Hmm. I like the simple thread title. It's... very The Rose Dragon, somehow.
@Curly: There's a Paradise Regained?
The other 3 books on your list I already plan to read.

Now, Heroes has finished recording, I must go watch it.

CurlyKitGirl

2009-03-09, 07:08 PM

@KAela: No; just shows another side to your geekiness.

@Thufir: yup. It's the lesser known sequel. It's only four books long and yeah, it's about Satan failing to tempt Christ while he's out in the desert.
I have a link to an online text of the Comedy if you want?

Kaelaroth

2009-03-09, 07:13 PM

@KAela: No; just shows another side to your geekiness.

Yaay! Now, to work on my instantaneous space-time folding!
BAMF!

PhoeKun

2009-03-09, 07:29 PM

@Thufir: yup. It's the lesser known sequel. It's only four books long and yeah, it's about Satan failing to tempt Christ while he's out in the desert.
I have a link to an online text of the Comedy if you want?

From my understanding, it was written largely because the reaction to Satan in Paradise Lost was so... sympathetic. People felt bad for Satan (terrible stuff he did aside - he's still the devil), and Milton screamed at the top of his lungs from the rooftops, "No, no, no! This is all wrong! He's the bad guy! The bad guy!" And then wrote Paradise Regained to try and put the emphasis back where he wanted it: on the glory of heaven. It was considerably less well received, much the same way Dante's most talked about book is Inferno. People like reading about Hell. Heaven, they'd rather imagine for themselves.

@Kaela: You asked for elaboration? Unfortunately, there isn't a heck of a lot of elaborating I can do. I haven't been employed in months, because the job market for any sort of writer or editor is apparently not that wide in Salt Lake City. I've tried applying for online correspondence jobs, but I'm never the best candidate (recent graduates have it rough...), and I've tried swallowing my pride and applying to less intellectual endeavors, but it turns out for those I am over-qualified. :smallsigh:

So I've been watching my money slowly dwindle down to nothing. Which, according to my bank statement, just happened today. I've got a couple of days before I need to figure out how the heck I'm going to pay for student loans and rent, but...

edit: I'm apparently going to be minority opinion here, but... Catullus? Really? Why are we praising him, when we should be talking about Sappho? Without her, he would be nothing. And that's even discounting the however-many-odd poems he wrote specifically lusting after her. Ugh.

Alleine

2009-03-09, 07:40 PM

Don't worry, I get it. I was watching it on demand just a few days ago. :smallbiggrin:

Huzzah! We are saved!
I was getting worried for a second there.

Phase

2009-03-09, 09:09 PM

Okay, first trial run of my costume went well tonight, expect pictures tomorrow.

Coplantor

2009-03-09, 09:22 PM

Okay, first trial run of my costume went well tonight, expect pictures tomorrow.

you mean mcninja costume?

Assassin89

2009-03-09, 09:30 PM

Did someone say Catullus? I translated some of his poetry in high school. The subjects of each poem were quite interesting.

PhoeKun

2009-03-09, 09:45 PM

Rawr!

... I am filled with poet rage. I sigh a little sigh, and go off to weep in my dark and tiny corner.

Phase

2009-03-09, 10:00 PM

you mean mcninja costume?

Yes.

But know, Gods I need sleep

Coplantor

2009-03-09, 10:10 PM

Speaking of costumes...

In case that I'll ever wear one to go to a geeky con or something, a friend and I already decided that we should go as the characters in Monty Python's the meaning of life "The Middle of the Film" Sketch. He already called dibs on the guy with long arms so I should go as the multicolored tap-nippled transvestite. Two questions, how can we make the double arms? And... should we really do it?

Sneak

2009-03-09, 10:23 PM

Coplantor

2009-03-09, 10:33 PM

Lot's of people will be rolling for SAN. Speaking of wih, I have the psychological test tomorrow before I can start working, am I going to need luck or a miracle?

Recaiden

2009-03-09, 10:46 PM

From what I hear, just luck. But possibly a lot of it. Have some of mine. And by now, I don't think very much here can deal me any SAN damage.:smalltongue:

@V:Mildly unsettling. And goodnight Playground.

Coplantor

2009-03-09, 10:52 PM

From what I hear, just luck. But possibly a lot of it. Have some of mine. And by now, I don't think very much here can deal me any SAN damage.:smalltongue:

No san damage for you? Then you are not trying hard enough to imagine me wearing lingerie, leather boots, make up and taps in my nipples.

Pyrian

2009-03-10, 12:53 AM

Lot's of people will be rolling for SAN. Speaking of wih, I have the psychological test tomorrow before I can start working, am I going to need luck or a miracle?Just ask yourself, at each question, "What would a supposedly normal person answer?" :smallbiggrin:

UncleWolf

2009-03-10, 01:27 AM

Alright, I'm off to bed guys.

I'll see you all in the morning.

Good night, and hunt well.

Nychta

2009-03-10, 01:34 AM

Zomg new photo of Pyrian.
... Is that also a new hat? Dang, I can't tell.

Reading through the RBs, I wish I had been here more the past month or so, but school is awesome.

ARGH THEY'VE BRAINWASHED ME ALREADY

Alleine

2009-03-10, 01:41 AM

but school is awesome.

Agh! Don't get any of it on me! Heaven forbid I become responsible or some such frippery! I'm clearly too cool for school. :smalltongue:

Rawhide

2009-03-10, 02:38 AM

Judging by your intelligence, it would be a school for the gifted right?
http://paulmayers.blogs.com/my_weblog/images/2007/10/04/far_side_school_for_gifted.jpg

Kaelaroth

2009-03-10, 02:44 AM

@Kaela: You asked for elaboration? Unfortunately, there isn't a heck of a lot of elaborating I can do. I haven't been employed in months, because the job market for any sort of writer or editor is apparently not that wide in Salt Lake City. I've tried applying for online correspondence jobs, but I'm never the best candidate (recent graduates have it rough...), and I've tried swallowing my pride and applying to less intellectual endeavors, but it turns out for those I am over-qualified. :smallsigh:

So I've been watching my money slowly dwindle down to nothing. Which, according to my bank statement, just happened today. I've got a couple of days before I need to figure out how the heck I'm going to pay for student loans and rent, but...

*gives you deepest sympathies*

Felixaar

2009-03-10, 02:45 AM

Bah! Missed making the new thread by just a few posts... oh well, maybe next time.

Quincunx

2009-03-10, 04:12 AM

. . .I'm apparently going to be minority opinion here, but... Catullus? Really? Why are we praising him, when we should be talking about Sappho? Without her, he would be nothing. And that's even discounting the however-many-odd poems he wrote specifically lusting after her. Ugh.

It began from my discussion of a poem written by Fredthefighter and posted in this thread, which had everything to do thematically with the best-known love poem of Catullus and nothing to do with the best-known love poem of Sappho. (Shock at duality is a male theme; we women are born split and born to be split, we can't be surprised by being further divided.) Consider, also, that even in my wealthy and aspirational school district, we had to time-share a Latin teacher with another school as there were not enough Latin students to justify one full-time--now extrapolate how few of those students would have been willing to study Attic Greek, and how likely it was that other, more pinched schools would have sufficient demand to teach Attic Greek. Consider further, that despite its unpolished state, my discussion might have desired to choose both a relevant comparison and one that the readers were more likely to be familiar with. Perhaps, if you have poetry to give, we may see if it has the air of Sappho about it.

Thufir

2009-03-10, 05:39 AM

@Thufir: yup. It's the lesser known sequel. It's only four books long and yeah, it's about Satan failing to tempt Christ while he's out in the desert.
I have a link to an online text of the Comedy if you want?

Hm. Will have to look into that at some point.

Nah, my parents have a copy at home. Possibly two copies, even. They have all 3 in one book, and then they have seperate copies of the Inferno and Purgatorio, but I haven't seen Paradiso anywhere.

PhoeKun

2009-03-10, 10:29 AM

It began from my discussion of a poem written by Fredthefighter and posted in this thread, which had everything to do thematically with the best-known love poem of Catullus and nothing to do with the best-known love poem of Sappho. (Shock at duality is a male theme; we women are born split and born to be split, we can't be surprised by being further divided.) Consider, also, that even in my wealthy and aspirational school district, we had to time-share a Latin teacher with another school as there were not enough Latin students to justify one full-time--now extrapolate how few of those students would have been willing to study Attic Greek, and how likely it was that other, more pinched schools would have sufficient demand to teach Attic Greek. Consider further, that despite its unpolished state, my discussion might have desired to choose both a relevant comparison and one that the readers were more likely to be familiar with. Perhaps, if you have poetry to give, we may see if it has the air of Sappho about it.

I apologize. In my attempts to contain a rant, I pulled too tightly, and chose the rest of my words poorly as well. Catullus may come up in any context he chooses to. But if he does rear his head, someone needs to be there to call him a useless prat. As the conversation had shifted away from comparing poster submissions to his work, and towards a discussion towards how gosh darn wonderful he was, the task fell to me. And I, in my eagerness, tripped on my shoelaces. Which is weird, because I wear boots. But as long as I'm here in the dirt, I'll say it more clearly: Catullus was a twit.

My poems are the product of a meager talent and the modern age. I have nothing to give that would taste of Sappho.

Also, I'm speaking oddly. Look at what reading your posts does to me!

Quincunx

2009-03-10, 11:42 AM

Well, bother. Where are we going to get a toehold on her, then? This (http://www.bopsecrets.org/gateway/passages/sappho.htm) is a wonderful page for the plethora of translations*, but I haven't got a clue on which ones are accurate. Some are spare and I can guess literal (Peter Whigham), some in a poetic form I remember from, yes, that 'twit' Catullus (William Carlos Williams is, I think, best of these), some twist the verse into English rhyme (Tennyson, at least, acknowledged that blocky verse would not do), but I cannot recommend even one as better than the rest! It would be much easier to start discussing from some Playgrounder's attempt at the emotion. I've riffled through what poems I have, and I'd only dropped the theme into a haiku--something even more fragmentary than the original. Not particularly helpful.

*Nice thing about studying Classics--if you can tolerate primitive webpages, there's much material to mine. Those academics were enthusiasts about swapping their copyright-free material.

PhoeKun

2009-03-10, 12:11 PM

Well then...

http://phoekun.googlepages.com/poems

Peruse, and decide for yourself. Perhaps it won't lead to Sappho, but it might be good for me to think about poetry in terms of me writing it. Or it could be pointless ego stroking. Or crushing. I expect the latter - I am raw and still developing.

I hate linking to that site. So self conscious...

Quincunx

2009-03-10, 12:44 PM

Please don't be alarmed by my silence. I have to stop reading and start cooking now, no time for commentary, time for reflection.

Neko Toast

2009-03-10, 01:37 PM

Feh...

Is it Spring break yet?

...

How about now?

Haruki-kun

2009-03-10, 01:43 PM

Feh...

Is it Spring break yet?

...

How about now?

*sigh*

Almost..... almost.....<.<

SMEE

2009-03-10, 01:56 PM

*sigh* Spring break... :smallfrown: *sob, sob*

Fredthefighter

2009-03-10, 01:57 PM

Spring Break? Is that like Easter Holidays? Two weeks off? :smallconfused:
I've heard of it, but am unfamiliar with it.
Also, Fred is happy. Mainly because on Friday, I am going to see Brainiac: Science Abuse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Bunhead) live at the Symphony Hall in Birmingham.
Friday 13th+Explosions+Crowded Area= Uh oh with hilarity.
It's going to be lots of fun. :smallsmile:
Anyways, how is everyone?
Also, Quincunx, I don't think I'll ever submit poetry to books or magazines or whatever, it's just something I wrote and decided to share. I don't even know whether I'll write anything else, it was a spur of the moment thing.

Dr. Bath

2009-03-10, 01:59 PM

Spring Break? Is that like Easter Holidays? Two weeks off? :smallconfused:

Four weeks off more like!

Zing!
:smalltongue:

Not that I'm looking forward to the end of term. It's the coursework deadline. eep.

Phase

2009-03-10, 02:02 PM

Feh, I don't have Spring Break for another month. :smallannoyed:

banjo1985

2009-03-10, 02:05 PM

Easter? A mighty two days off for me...I bloody well miss the holidays you get while you're still in the education system.

I'm currently well into hour eleven of a thirteen hour work day...I'm so tired my head might just hit the computer and fhoweifgweifgwfsd

:smalltongue:

The Rose Dragon

2009-03-10, 02:08 PM

Feh, I don't have Spring Break for another month. :smallannoyed:

No Spring Break at all.

Those who complain about how far away Spring Break is, eat your hearts out.

Fredthefighter

2009-03-10, 02:11 PM

Four weeks off more like!

Zing!
:smalltongue:

Not that I'm looking forward to the end of term. It's the coursework deadline. eep.

Well, just before Easter holiday, I have French Orals, then afterwards I have my Drama Final Exam. Then when Late May/Early June hits, I have the main exam period. Additonal Science exam, Maths Terminal exam, English Literature exam, Maths Module 10 exam paper, History exam, Graphic Products exam.
Not worried about Graphic Products or Drama. Maths is the after school classes I'm attending History we're almost finished with Germany and we'll be moving back to America. Science has quite a bit to be done, but it's all in-lesson stuff we've got to do. English Literature, we've got a tiny bit of work left on "Of Mice and Men" and then poetry to learn.
I.T has projects left to finish.
I need to make an original soundtrack for an interactive storybook, I need to design a screensaver, add that, a wallpaper design and a cushion design to an elevated wall design (Which I need to finish), but other than that I'm almost done. (I'm the furthest ahead in the class).
P.E just has one semi-exam (for everyone, I didn't take it as a GSCE lesson), which I don't much care about really. Although I was on fire on the basketball court today, unusual for me considering I am not good at sports.
Coursework was all done in Yr 10 pretty much. I have a few things to do for science, but I'm arranging the time to do those after school. I'm finishing the Data Task this Friday afternoon.

Coplantor

2009-03-10, 02:16 PM

I'm waiting for fall here. Though we do have a week of easter vacations.

Fredthefighter

2009-03-10, 02:37 PM

I'm waiting for fall here. Though we do have a week of easter vacations.

Autumn/Fall is a long way off isn't it? I thought it didn't start until September-ish.

Dragonrider

2009-03-10, 02:41 PM

Unless he lives in the southern hemisphere, in which case it's in a couple weeks. :smalltongue:

Fredthefighter

2009-03-10, 02:47 PM

Unless he lives in the southern hemisphere, in which case it's in a couple weeks. :smalltongue:

Geography may have been interesting, but it was never my best subject. I chose History instead, now that is one of my best subjects.
My mood is being skyrocketed by the Foo Fighters.
Lately, I've been, living in my head,
The rest of me is dead,
I'm dieing for truth!
Make me, believe,
No more left and right,
Come on take my side, I'm fighting for you!
I'm fighting for you!
Please to meet you take my hand.
There is no way back from hell.
Please to meet you say your prayers,
There is no way back from hell,
But I don't care,
No way back from hell!

CurlyKitGirl

2009-03-10, 02:50 PM

>.>
<.<
Seeing as I'd only heard of Sappho today I can't comment on anything yet; but backtracking from the link you gave Quincunx, I can say that she is a very intense and (how I hate being unable to find an appropriate word) worthwhile poet.
Even if Kenneth Rexroth (site author?) (http://www.bopsecrets.org/rexroth/cr/2.htm#Sappho, Poems) uses a quotation from a metaphysical poem in te third to last paragraph.
His review/hitory of Sappho and her poetry in translation is a bit too pastorally inclined in description. Honestly, "flirtations of his deodorized shepherds and shepherdesses we always hear time’s winged chariot hurrying near, loaded with marriage contracts". It just seems so jarring somehow. Especially the italicised quotation from To His Coy Mistress (http://www.luminarium.org/sevenlit/marvell/coy.htm).
Huh. Went from poet to scholar review. Strange.
RIght!
Sappho hunting. Primarily referring to Poem of Jealousy. I'll be using dispersonal stuff as well so even though I'm talking mainly to Phoe it'll be as if an actual essay essay.

Phoe poem - What Is It? (http://phoekun.googlepages.com/whatisit) (A scholar's approach to analysis)
Analysing specifically for links to Sappho and her themes; but with other stuff chucked in, perhaps also some recurring themes in the work of Phoekun.

Like Sappho Phoe's main theme (from what I've read) is love - specifically (in her earlier submmited ones) of broken or lost love. This is similar to Sappho's Poem of Jealousy where she covets what she once had, but now doesn't.
HOWEVER, whereas Sappho is rather acidic (Literal translation by Gregory Nagy (date unknown)) Phoe sounds more melancholy. If you take the 2005 translation "so stops my heart and binds /my tongue that I can’t think what I might say" (Sappho) is directly reminiscent (to me) of "Because when we talk,/I’m still the awkward, stumbling one." (Moving Forward; Phoekun) which shows the same trend towards hesitancy indicating shyness.
Moving Forward is more evocative of this theme though as the use of commas creates a stuttering pace when read aloud, mimicing a physical "stumble".
The narrative voice of both poets is feminine, taking a direct first person experience making the topics discussed very personal and quite confidential. Both Sappho and the speaker write about homosexual love between two females; the formers' seems to be unrequited, perhaps unacknowledged even though Greek love (male/male) was the norm - this almost certainly didn't extend to females, but I studied Attic Greece, so there is a sense of danger and even taboo in the silence and the metaphor of the "fire" being sparked alight where her " tongue" could be seen as being restrained by Ancient Greek propriety and culture, as well as simple shyness or jealousy.
The speaker of What Is It? (and possibly Moving Forward) has the love recognised and either toyed with as just "playfullness" (What) or failing due to the "stumbling" (Moving). This reflects societal norms where homosexuality is welcomed in part. This makes Phoe's writing more personal is it clearly emphasises the personal silence, however unwanted it may be as compared to the possibly cultural silence of Sappho.
Both poets are stylistically concise with Sappho's translators tending more towards enjambement and caesura in the middle of lines, but here they seem wistful, perhaps because of the placement (2005 translation). But since there was no punctuation when Sappho wrote this may merely be a reflection of how the translator interpreted it and thus, it affects the tone substantially. (See earlier mention comparing literal (date unknown) and 2005 and the tone of the two)
In comparison, the two poems by Phoe are fairly reliant on caesura and the use of syndetic listing (What) to create either a sense of inevitability, foreshadowing the eventual end of that speakers' relationship, but also hinting that she has tried to form one before showing that she has many failed relationships. This creates a feeling of pity for the unidentified speaker. The caesura caused by the full stops of Moving Foward show her inability to express her emotions. But as the majority of full stops are at the end of the lines it could also be interpreted as a relutance to move on as a full stop expressed finality.
Generally, Sappho tends towards more elaborate mythology based imagery with the man feeling as a "god" showing that her unnamed love has the ability to inspire and raise up a mortal to Olympos; it also could imply that love is more powerful than the gods in this way. But this is quite tenuous, it is more that Sappho believes romantic love between anyone is very powerful (cf. Rexroths' introduction). The other major simile is of fire which, in Greek mmythology could be seen as referring to Prometheus the first man.
Fire, which here represents love or passion is therefore rightly possession of the gods implying that both Sappho and her love are gods or more than mortal while the man is a thief. In which case, Sappho jealously believes that her once - love should be hers and hers alone.
In contrast, Phoe's poems use simplistic language gaining immediacy and poignancy in the absence of complex structure or literary technique. This simplicity makes the emotions felt far more effective as their imact is very powerful.

[/analysis]

That may or may not have been helpful. But they're all really good poems and have a lot in common with Sappho if you look hard enough.
This mini - essay was done while eating my dinner and doing homework. Apologies if it's shoddy.
[B]Caveat: I know nothing about the personal lives of either poet and have placed some of my interpretations on either related culture in the case of Sappho or solely from modern times, the poems themselves and my perspective as an A Level essayist.

Kaelaroth

2009-03-10, 03:30 PM

You seriously only heard of Sappho today? :smallconfused:

CurlyKitGirl

2009-03-10, 03:58 PM

One: I go to a state funded college and am teaching myself Ancient Greek/Latin sporadically.
Two: Cornwall = yokel land. Far less likely to learn about the classical civilisations in any detail outside of private schools or college.
Three: I may have heard the name, but nothing else. So yeah, this is my first time hearing anything about Sappho aside from her name. Why?

PhoeKun

2009-03-10, 04:07 PM

It is not a crime to not know an author or a poet. Merely a shame that some have difficulty getting exposure...

Jibar

2009-03-10, 04:09 PM

There is Lego all over my desk.
I cannot do anything here because there's Lego in the way.
And this isn't all of it. This is some of the smaller sets that have just accumulated.
Arrrgh. >,<

CurlyKitGirl

2009-03-10, 05:02 PM

It is not a crime to not know an author or a poet. Merely a shame that some have difficulty getting exposure...

Tell me about it. I couldn't even get access to most of the books I wanted to read when I was in secondary until Y10 or later. Thank Io for befriending and practically working as a school Librarian. And I wrote all their quizzes!
But I has access to know.

Did you like the other review too?

Kaelaroth

2009-03-10, 05:08 PM

Why?

I just found it a little odd, is all. You're so very knowledgeable about, well, everything else. :smalltongue:

It is not a crime to not know an author or a poet.

Never said it was.

Edge

2009-03-10, 05:08 PM

Well, writing that post in the "Who are you?" thread has left me somewhat melancholy and introspective. As such, I shall soon head for bed. G'night all.

CurlyKitGirl

2009-03-10, 05:19 PM

I just found it a little odd, is all. You're so very knowledgeable about, well, everything else. :smalltongue:

I've only been reading properly for fourteen years! Gimme a break! :smalltongue:
Despite what my sig says, I have yet to devour every book in existence. And there're many, many areas in which I know jack or near enough that it makes no difference.
But yeah, I guess in literature I'm probably more well - read than most people my age and willing to discuss it, sometimes quite volubly.

Recaiden

2009-03-10, 05:27 PM

There is Lego all over my desk.
I cannot do anything here because there's Lego in the way.
And this isn't all of it. This is some of the smaller sets that have just accumulated.
Arrrgh. >,<

You seem to be missing the point. You can build things out of Lego. What more do you need?

PhoeKun

2009-03-10, 05:39 PM

Tell me about it. I couldn't even get access to most of the books I wanted to read when I was in secondary until Y10 or later. Thank Io for befriending and practically working as a school Librarian. And I wrote all their quizzes!
But I has access to know.

Did you like the other review too?

I very much enjoyed the other review!

Today's been a big stresser in terms of money (realizing I need money I don't have very soon), and these have been exactly the sorts of things I need to avoid breaking down. I'm smiling, instead, which is something I wasn't sure I'd be doing. Thanks. :smallsmile:

Random topic change: I need hair ties of some sort. I am becoming unsatisfied with the way it looks when I just let it lie flat, but I'm not really sure what style to shoot for.

CurlyKitGirl

2009-03-10, 06:00 PM

I very much enjoyed the other review!

Today's been a big stresser in terms of money (realizing I need money I don't have very soon), and these have been exactly the sorts of things I need to avoid breaking down. I'm smiling, instead, which is something I wasn't sure I'd be doing. Thanks. :smallsmile:

Sweet! I made Phoe happy, best thing I've done all day. And I had fun reviewing them too.

Random topic change: I need hair ties of some sort. I am becoming unsatisfied with the way it looks when I just let it lie flat, but I'm not really sure what style to shoot for.

Well, how long's your hair?
Curly, wavy, straight?
Normally leave it flat? Try some ordinary pony tails, nape of neck, high etc.; for that just use bog standard hair bands or scrunchies. Perhaps ribbons if you fell adventerous, but I've no idea how to keep them on (my hair is choas theory incarnate and hates being restrained).
You tried plaits? Braids?
ALice bands maybe? Still down, but pushed back and gives a little more body to your hair.
I used to be fairly adventurous with hair styles (well weird ones) before I just got bored; anything goes really.
I'd make a high pony tail using a plain black band, split the tail into x parts and make x braids or 1/2x braids and 1/2 loose and wrap ribbon around the black band holding the tail together. Then I'd fiddle around with the braids.

I was an odd girl. Still am, but my hair rebelled. Now it's a bit like King Charles' but nowhere near as corkscrewy.

The Rose Dragon

2009-03-10, 06:05 PM

I never styled my hair. At best I wore it in a ponytail. Mostly I just combed it so it wasn't a complete mess and called it a day.

PhoeKun

2009-03-10, 06:22 PM

Sweet! I made Phoe happy, best thing I've done all day. And I had fun reviewing them too.

Well, how long's your hair?
Curly, wavy, straight?
Normally leave it flat? Try some ordinary pony tails, nape of neck, high etc.; for that just use bog standard hair bands or scrunchies. Perhaps ribbons if you fell adventerous, but I've no idea how to keep them on (my hair is choas theory incarnate and hates being restrained).
You tried plaits? Braids?
ALice bands maybe? Still down, but pushed back and gives a little more body to your hair.
I used to be fairly adventurous with hair styles (well weird ones) before I just got bored; anything goes really.
I'd make a high pony tail using a plain black band, split the tail into x parts and make x braids or 1/2x braids and 1/2 loose and wrap ribbon around the black band holding the tail together. Then I'd fiddle around with the braids.

I was an odd girl. Still am, but my hair rebelled. Now it's a bit like King Charles' but nowhere near as corkscrewy.

It's a little bit past my shoulders (just a tiny, tiny bit) at its longest, and as straight as straight can be. I've been trying to grow it out for a while now, ever since I stopped having to fight my parents and sister who all wanted me to have short hair. It's not so much that they forced me as it is that I have no spine, and would cut it short every time they asked more than once. :smallsigh:

I've not been very adventurous with my hair, and I don't know a lot about styling it, but now that I'm free enough to have the chance, I want to explore!

Jack Squat

2009-03-10, 06:32 PM

I can't style my hair, so I just wear a hat all the time.

yes, can't. My hair finds a way to go back to it's normal self no matter what. Even slathered in gel, give it a couple hours, and it's mostly back where it was. I've got some pomade, but never really bothered trying it.

On the plus side, I've found hat hair works pretty well for me, just have to fluff it out a bit.

SweetLikeLemons

2009-03-10, 06:36 PM

If you have impossible, thin, straight hair like mine, then mousse is your friend. If you want to go through the time and effort to blow-dry it, then it gives you more body without making it all sticky, and it is the only way to make my hair hold a curl for more than a couple minutes. Also, it helps keep hair up if you want to do something fancy with it.

Stylewise, I am a big fan of the french twist. A little mousse, a few hair pins and it looks great. Very classy, even if I don't take much time on it and it comes out a bit messy, and it takes like five minutes.

Otherwise, I wear a ponytail almost every day. I got a bit tired of it recently, so I started just pulling the front back with flat clips. It is a little juvenile, maybe, but simple and looks like I've actually done something with it. It takes mere seconds, too, which is good.

Sneak

2009-03-10, 06:40 PM

I don't "style" my hair...I just shower/wash it, dry it with a towel, mess around with it with my hands until I like it...and that's it.

Haven't combed or brushed my hair in years...probably at least five years, maybe more. :smalleek:

Several of my female friends want to straighten it when it's at its longest (right before I get it cut).

I'm kind of afraid of that, though. I don't like being a paper doll. :smalltongue:

So yeah, I'm afraid I no absolutely nothing about styling hair.

BUT: I applaud your adventurousness! Go PhoeKun! :smallbiggrin:

Coplantor

2009-03-10, 06:44 PM

My pillow is who decides my daily hair style.

Lyesmith

2009-03-10, 07:04 PM

I was going to straighten my hair (which makes me look like someone has glued a crow to somtething, then attacked it with blowdriers from all angles), but then I was reminded of a timed essay I had to do for tomorrow.

Friggin' mountains! Now my back is sore from being hunched over typing at the speed of thought.

Also, I may have burned my scalp a bit. I need some boy-straighteners.

A Rainy Knight

2009-03-10, 07:07 PM

My pillow is who decides my daily hair style.

Now, someone who speaks my language. But I must ask, does your pillow charge you as much for it as mine does? :smalltongue:

Honestly though, my philosophy is to try to keep my hair cut short enough that I don't have to mess around with it, because I can't really be bothered to put in the effort for fancy-prancy hair styles.

Assassin89

2009-03-10, 07:10 PM

For me Spring Break begins April 9 and ends April 13.

For hair, I prefer it cut short.

Recaiden

2009-03-10, 07:12 PM

I just comb my hair up after showering, and it settles itself into a weird, upward style. Not hard to take care of though, and I don't have to get it cut very often.

The Rose Dragon

2009-03-10, 07:16 PM

Anyway, the point is: Did you remember to be awesome today? Trick question.

Quincunx

2009-03-10, 07:19 PM

CurlyKitGirl gives analysis, and in a more commercial vein, review. I give feedback and attention. Out of respect to the recently broken writing block, this'll be at feedback level two, where an aspiring author ought to enjoy level three at least. (Authors use constructive feedback, where a level two is usually meant for someone who wouldn't like to revise their work, just enjoy it.)

I couldn't resist sneaking one more peek, reading one more page, before starting to cook dinner. It was wise--that page was Glacier, the only poem which showed rather than told, the only symbol to contemplate, the only one that required work to yield its secrets. I ruminated on the symbol, wondered why the breath of the speaker rolled along the ground when our human breath hangs higher, whether "I can't move" precluded the speaker being the sea, why "She stands, and I watch" implied vertical distance instead of horizontal, fiddled with the difficulty of a moving/still/moving glacier, and chalked it up to the uncertainty of the speaker's position, and settled on the voice being that of the changeable sea.

Now I go to style my hair in Coplantor's fashion. Goodnight!

Recaiden

2009-03-10, 07:20 PM

Anyway, the point is: Did you remember to be awesome today? Trick question.

Yes, Dragonrider. Is the trick supposed to be that you know we aren't awesome(A lie, by the way), or that we are, or a third option? Although I could be more awesome. I'm planning to deal with that later this evening.

The Rose Dragon

2009-03-10, 07:23 PM

The trick is, according to Nerdfighter Charter (which I may or may not have made up right now), you are supposed to not forget to be awesome in the first place.

Remembering implies you forgot it.

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous is "Never get involved in a land war in Asia", but only slightly less well known is this: "Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line".

EDIT: Also, not DR, but JG & HG.

Dihan

2009-03-10, 07:34 PM

I don't know if anyone else knows, but YouTube is blocking all music content for British users because they didn't want to pay large royalties. Apparently it comes into effect on Monday. YouTube isn't changing their stance.

The Rose Dragon

2009-03-10, 07:40 PM

Well, YouTube was blocked in Turkey completely, so meh.

PhoeKun

2009-03-10, 08:02 PM

Recaiden

2009-03-10, 09:22 PM

Coplantor

2009-03-10, 09:34 PM

So bed hair is Coplantor's fashion now? Great, another thing from the list acomplished.

If you were wondering, it is number 6, success in the world of fashion.

Alleine

2009-03-10, 09:47 PM

Sneak

2009-03-10, 09:51 PM

Rutskarn

2009-03-10, 09:51 PM

Coplantor

2009-03-10, 10:01 PM

27 was hard, bungee jumping using my intestines as a bungee cord... Sheesh, all the messy complications we had, but in the end it all trned out well.

And sneak, FIVE-HIGHED already!

Sneak

2009-03-10, 10:02 PM

YEAH!

I have not yet punched a whale.

My life is a sad, sad affair.

Alleine

2009-03-10, 10:08 PM

My goals are lame.

Most of them consist of "go home and pass out on the couch"
or
"go home and not pass out on the couch"

As you can clearly see, I totally push the limit all the time.

Rutskarn

2009-03-10, 10:12 PM

Try stepping it up a little.

Go home and pass out...on a bear.

And...yeah, I'm tapped.

Recaiden

2009-03-10, 10:13 PM

I just slap a hat on. It works for me, and apparently has caused a girl to want my head because she thinks its cute.

All I can think of is my head mounted on her wall in the same fashion as a deer head :smalleek:

Then it would be looking down at you. Can you imagine falling asleep in an armchair, and the waking up to see Alleine's head staring accusingly down at you. It is not a happy idea.

People don't want my whole head, but they're always after my hair.

Coplantor

2009-03-10, 10:15 PM

YEAH!

I have not yet punched a whale.

My life is a sad, sad affair.

Wow, when I was 15, I always joked with my friends about not beign able to die peacefully without first having knocked unconcious a whale by beating the hell out of it.

We always thought it would be easier with a small hale in a small pool, where it could'nt move.

Alleine

2009-03-10, 10:20 PM

Then it would be looking down at you. Can you imagine falling asleep in an armchair, and the waking up to see Alleine's head staring accusingly down at you. It is not a happy idea.

People don't want my whole head, but they're always after my hair.

I would become like one of those bull heads that people worshiped. Except instead of demanding virgin sacrifices, I would demand skittles. Well, I might just demand skittles in addition to the sacrifices.

Mwahaha.

Coidzor

2009-03-10, 10:22 PM

... Some part of me would feel guilty for punching a whale.

And then another part of me wonders whether a whale would even feel the force of my blow....

A third part of me has been having the most disturbing dreams about the safety of people I know. :smalleek: Good thing I'm not in the habit of having premonitions.

^: What about virgin skittles?

Rutskarn

2009-03-10, 10:24 PM

...what is it with you and skittles, exactly? It's kind of a thing with you.

Like virgin sacrifices are with me, and all.

Coplantor

2009-03-10, 10:24 PM

I think I have some sort of pinversed premonition power, since most of the things I never dreamed, never happened.

And it depends on the whale. About feeling guilty, yah, now I would, but when I was 15... I was young and crazy.

Sneak

2009-03-10, 10:25 PM

Ah, the whale wouldn't care. Also, @Coplantor: haha, good to see you put some thought into it. :smallwink:

I'm reading Moby **** for class at the moment, so whales are on my mind.

"What do ye do when ye see a whale, men?"
"Sing out for him!"
"And what do ye next, men?"
"Lower away, and after him!"
"And what tune is it ye pull to, men?"
"A dead whale or a stove boat!"

Alleine

2009-03-10, 10:26 PM

I would sincerely hope all the skittles I ever have are all virgin skittles.
If not... :smalleek::smalleek::smalleek:

Who doesn't like a good virgin sacrifice? It's like a party, only someone dies.

EDIT: @Rutskarn: I just really like skittles. They're delicious, and lots of other people like them. I don't think I could give a really good reason why.

Rutskarn

2009-03-10, 10:30 PM

If someone dies, you're doing your Virgin Bashes wrong.

I like to have three or four. The third one is usually a pinata.

Sneak

2009-03-10, 10:32 PM

Well, I'm off to bed.

Late to bed, early to rise, makes a man...tired?

'Night.

Recaiden

2009-03-10, 10:32 PM

If someone dies, you're doing your Virgin Bashes wrong.

I like to have three or four. The third one is usually a pinata.

I don't know. I find that it has much more of an impact per sacrifice if you only kill one at each event. All the attention is focused on them, giving their death more power.

EDIT: Good night, Sneak. Sleep well.

Alleine

2009-03-10, 10:34 PM

I think Rutskarn just sacrifices 'for the lulz', not for power. Although that's cool too.

Hehe, I want a pinata now. Mmmm.

Rutskarn

2009-03-10, 10:34 PM

...you can get power from virgin sacrifices?

mercurymaline

2009-03-10, 10:36 PM

My number six is lasso a giraffe while balancing upside down on a bear's head.

I've crossed it off, but I kinda cheated. I was technically throwing a ball of yarn at a toy giraffe, while standing rightside-up on a bearskin rug, and wrestling a bear.

Go home and pass out...on a bear.

...what is it with you and skittles, exactly? It's kind of a thing with you.

...and bears are apparently a thing with you...

Rutskarn

2009-03-10, 10:39 PM

Fighting or interacting with bears is a universal sign of manliness. This can be taken to humorous extremes.

Or just abused recklessly by a hack internet poster in his unattainable quest to amuse.

Bear bear bear.

Coidzor

2009-03-10, 10:40 PM

I would sincerely hope all the skittles I ever have are all virgin skittles.

Who doesn't like a good virgin sacrifice? It's like a party, only someone dies.

...No, it's a party where someone dies :P

And haven't you ever heard of virgin olive oil? Similar principle, only magically applied to skittles' mothers so that they get a virgin birth. :smalltongue:

Edit: The world will not truly be happy until all is Bear!

Bear, bear... bear, bear... Tony Blair Bares Air... Wait, no...

Sorry, I'm still new at this... bear, bear....

Alleine

2009-03-10, 10:48 PM

So they're magical virgin skittles?

I don't even know the principle behind virgin olive oil. I just assumed people were being weird when they named it.

Coplantor

2009-03-10, 10:49 PM

Moby **** and profanity filters... I never get tired of it.

Recaiden

2009-03-10, 10:51 PM

So they're magical virgin skittles?

I don't even know the principle behind virgin olive oil. I just assumed people were being weird when they named it.

No chemicals used to produce it, and very little acidity. Extra virgin is that, and also less than one percent acididty (I think). Skittles are pretty acidic, so we might need a new name, huh?

Good night, playground.

Alleine

2009-03-10, 10:56 PM

No chemicals used to produce it, and very little acidity. Extra virgin is that, and also less than one percent acididty (I think). Skittles are pretty acidic, so we might need a new name, huh?

Heh, just maybe.

I think I will retire early tonight. I'm feeling fairly thrashed right about now. I suppose that is what I get for trying to get a little bit healthier :smallsigh:

Rutskarn

2009-03-10, 11:06 PM

Moby **** and profanity filters... I never get tired of it.

Moby what?

Oh, you mean Moby ****?

Why use those silly asterisks in the name? Silly, silly posters.

Coplantor

2009-03-10, 11:15 PM

How did you overcomed the filter?

Rutskarn

2009-03-10, 11:16 PM

Bribery. Here's 50$ to get past the character limit.

Coidzor

2009-03-10, 11:17 PM

Tricksome..... Very Tricksome indeed.

We likeses it, precious...

*galum...gollum...*

Edit: Also, kitties... biting us whiles we photographs them... *gollum* Why must they bite the precious, eh? Why must they bites and claws and gnashes the feets and toeses....*gollum*

*goeses to gets the bandagess...precious...the bandageses...*

Coplantor

2009-03-10, 11:19 PM

Bribery. Here's 50$ to get past the character limit.

You bastard! People with money can do everything, and here I am with nothing else than an old coat and a severed head.

Rutskarn

2009-03-10, 11:24 PM

Eh, it's true.

Like, Coidzor, I'll give you 50 bob to smack Coplantor upside the head.

The severed head, I mean.

And then the other one.

Coplantor

2009-03-10, 11:26 PM

Can I smack my own heads and get the money?

Phase

2009-03-10, 11:27 PM

Wait, you used bribery? I used threats. Now I can say the name **** before I go to bed.

Rutskarn

2009-03-10, 11:28 PM

Coplantor: Meh, okay.

Coplantor

2009-03-10, 11:31 PM

Dammit, I was hoping for you to make a mistake and give me the money before I smacked my heads...

But you seem to be immune to my mental tricks!

Oooh weeeoooo!

Rutskarn

2009-03-10, 11:36 PM

Mental trickery not working for you, huh?

Hm. Have you tried an alternate strategy?

Like, say, bribery?

Dragonrider

2009-03-10, 11:42 PM

Phase

2009-03-10, 11:44 PM

Oooh weeeoooo!

Did somebody say Weeaboo? :smallamused:

Coidzor

2009-03-11, 12:27 AM

Re: DFTBA: It is, indeed, John and Hank Green's slogan. I've had it in my sig for about a year now. 'tis a good phrase by which to live.

Re: Hair: Sneakly, I'm glad to hear that I'm the only one who never touches a brush to it.

... ... ... ... *hands Deary a sammich*

In other news....:smallamused: *gets out the paddle and begins ominously drilling holes into it while giving phase a knowing look*

V: I know you're wearing a corset and all, but seriously....

Dragonrider

2009-03-11, 12:29 AM

... ... ... ... *hands Deary a sammich*

In other news.... *gets out the paddle and begins ominously drilling holes into it*

Uh...thanks...for the sammich? :smalltongue:

Anuan

2009-03-11, 01:11 AM

*chants* Wee-a-boo, Wee-a-boo, etc etc.

Felixaar

2009-03-11, 04:47 AM

In other news....:smallamused: *gets out the paddle and begins ominously drilling holes into it while giving phase a knowing look*

Oooh, are we initiating someone?

randman22222

2009-03-11, 05:15 AM

Oooh, are we initiating someone?

I'm kinda scared... What is Coid planning? :smalleek:

@V: :smallconfused:

Phase

2009-03-11, 05:29 AM

http://pbfcomics.com/archive_b/PBF071-Weeaboo.gif
Wee-a-boo!

Quincunx

2009-03-11, 05:43 AM

Hm. Hm, hm, hm.

You hit harder when you decide to wear the kid gloves. I take it you believe "show don't tell" to be an immutable rule? Or do I simply lack the skill to safely ignore it?

Every time I've run into someone before who's come out of college with a writing-related degree, the "show not tell" axiom has been hammered into them already with the flat side of a professor's favorite book, until it's as banal as "hello, how are you today?". It should've been safe to say. Hm. (thinks) Maybe it was a lesson only said so explicitly to the poets. Maybe your professors all had tact. At any rate, it's not immutable but I prefer less accessible poems, a question compelling enough to occupy my mind while doing housework at least, and showing poems provide that.

The keywords I left so I could search my entire poetic output at one time don't seem to work. This will take awhile to fix (an ironic hurrah for messageboard software changes). Until then, this (http://www.themightypen.net/index.php?s=&showtopic=8980&view=findpost&p=87314) was the vaguely Sapphic haiku. Does it show, or tell? I dither.

(notes presence of paddles and menacing expressions that have entered thread since post was begun, backs out of thread in haste)

Felixaar

2009-03-11, 06:02 AM

I'm kinda scared... What is Coid planning? :smalleek:

@V: :smallconfused:

http://www.bareflix.com/stonecutters/Stonecutter_initiation.jpg

The paddling of the swollen ass... with paddles.

randman22222

2009-03-11, 06:02 AM

I must vent:

I BLOODY HATE TRICHOTILLOMANIA. :smallfurious:
It should die.

Felixaar

2009-03-11, 06:21 AM

*wikis* eek. Yeah. That's not pleasent.

Wait.

Randy is ruining his precious hair?

Argh :smallmad: the injustice!

Howeveryouspellitmania must be stopped!

randman22222

2009-03-11, 06:25 AM

*wikis* eek. Yeah. That's not pleasent.

Wait.

Randy is ruining his precious hair?

Argh :smallmad: the injustice!

Howeveryouspellitmania must be stopped!

I'm mostly in control of it, but lapse every once in a while. Haven't been balding since 6th grade. But it really angers me that I have this response to even slight stress that at times I'm not even conscious of. :smallmad:

Felixaar

2009-03-11, 06:29 AM

Eek, man. That's awful. I feel for ya... :smalleek:

randman22222

2009-03-11, 06:37 AM

Eek, man. That's awful. I feel for ya... :smalleek:

I gotta wonder where it came from though. It's not genetic, and I doubt some traumatic non-event in my life spawned it. :smallconfused:

Felixaar

2009-03-11, 06:44 AM

randman22222

2009-03-11, 06:50 AM

Let's just hope it's not related to that handsome crazy guy who keeps threatening to shave your head and make a wig. That would be most unfortunate.

In seriousness though... eee. Quite the question :smallconfused: :smalleek:

Eh? Your hair's pretty cool. I bet if you dyed it blonde, it'd be pretty epic.
Every once in a while, I wish my hair was curly... :smallconfused:

Felixaar

2009-03-11, 07:13 AM

Eh? Your hair's pretty cool. I bet if you dyed it blonde, it'd be pretty epic.
Every once in a while, I wish my hair was curly... :smallconfused:

Ah, I don't have the complexion for blonde anyway. And yeah, curly hair is pretty fun :smallbiggrin:

Rawhide

2009-03-11, 11:30 AM

Nothing I could write here would do this justice. (http://cakewrecks.blogspot.com/2008/08/in-honor-of-2008-olympic-games.html)

Cristo Meyers

2009-03-11, 11:41 AM

Nothing I could write here would do this justice. (http://cakewrecks.blogspot.com/2008/08/in-honor-of-2008-olympic-games.html)

Part of me wants to say that there's no way someone could've been that dumb...then the part of me that realizes we're talking about humankind kicks in...

Kaelaroth

2009-03-11, 12:00 PM

And yeah, curly hair is pretty fun :smallbiggrin:

Ugh, lies. It's awful.

Player_Zero

2009-03-11, 12:03 PM

Two guys talking behind me in my Quantum Phenomena lecture today... I mean, I know geeky, but damn. They were discussing with obvious nerdrage how you couldn't compare a strategy game to a shooter...

Just... Damn. I didn't think people like that existed in real life just on internet forums in the forum of nerdrage trolls.

TwoBitWriter

2009-03-11, 12:15 PM

Back from my grandfather's funeral in San Antonio, and back from my four day hiatus.

Worst part of it all, aside from the funeral?

My computer died again.

...crap... :smallsigh:

Dallas-Dakota

2009-03-11, 12:59 PM

Ugh, lies. It's awful.
Indeed. It is awfull.

I went to a open evening to a college in Rotterdam(Not where I live, but going to the nearest train station to that college takes like 10-15 min by train) yesterday. Het grafisch lyceum, translated as best as I can do : Grafics lyceum(?). It was awesome.
I was happy! I was like, DD. Not the zombie that I usually am.
Yay.
I´m thinking about either doing Photography(choice of photographer, cameraman or editor) or the usual program, where you pick your focus at the end of year one.(I think) but there were many focuses there. Game design, 3d, 2d, animation, fashion and trends(so not doing this) and some other stuff.

But it was awesome. I hope I can get in there, if I´m going to register thingy there(most likely)

Anyway.
*hides again*

Cristo Meyers

2009-03-11, 01:28 PM

Back from my grandfather's funeral in San Antonio, and back from my four day hiatus.

Worst part of it all, aside from the funeral?

My computer died again.

...crap... :smallsigh:

You're overdue for your welcome back hosing.

...but I shall refrain...this time.

TwoBitWriter

2009-03-11, 01:40 PM

You're overdue for your welcome back hosing.

...but I shall refrain...this time.

Aww, I was looking forward to getting hosed by you... :smallamused:

Cristo Meyers

2009-03-11, 01:50 PM

Aww, I was looking forward to getting hosed by you... :smallamused:

ha ha ha...:smalltongue:

Fredthefighter

2009-03-11, 02:04 PM

It would be so easy right now to make a joke. But I won't.

Hey Twobit, good to see you back again.
Something I realised to day The Perfect Crime by Faith No More is one of the most addictive songs I've ever heard. I'm loving it.

Sneak

2009-03-11, 02:11 PM

CurlyKitGirl

2009-03-11, 02:12 PM

Today has been gooooood!
No history, Classics I kind of did all the work on Book Four yesterday so I did nothing today and won't tomorrow.
Lit was Lit. And we did a umb show, I had to dress and undress the Cardinal. Ours was the funniest dumb show interpretation.
Coursework drafts came back today; I was shocked when I got the rought grade of an A- as I spent two hours writing the bleedin' thing the day it was due and did so little work during ourcoursework lessons it's unbelievable.
Actually I did do work, it was just for my friends' coursework instead.
She redid her AS coursework and has a rough draft of a B already (one grade higher than last year) and this years' as a very high C.
We're working on her again tomorrow to bring it up more.

I am good at Lit. ANd I'm so happy she got great grades!

Fredthefighter

2009-03-11, 02:16 PM

I like the second version more.

And by that, I mean The Perfect Crime #2.

Just pulled that one up on Youtube, it's quite different (both style and lyrics and vocals). It's definitely good.
I prefer the Faith No More one.
Now for some Scat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNLDns41jBQ&feature=related)(man John)

EDIT: Well Curly, I'm happy that you're happy that you're friend is getting good grades. Happiness is something to be happy about. I'm not sure whether I'm making any sense anyway.

TwoBitWriter

2009-03-11, 02:34 PM

ha ha ha...:smalltongue:

FYI, I posted another BASC chapter in the new shipping thread.

@Fred: *waves* it's good to be back. It's been a rough week.

Edit: @Curly: New BASC chapter in shipping...

Yeah, I said it twice! :smalltongue:

Dallas-Dakota

2009-03-11, 02:42 PM

And this is why I don´t usually come to RB anymore.

Fredthefighter

2009-03-11, 02:46 PM

FYI, I posted another BASC chapter in the new shipping thread.

@Fred: *waves* it's good to be back. It's been a rough week.

Edit: @Curly: New BASC chapter in shipping...

Yeah, I said it twice! :smalltongue:

I heard. I feel your pain my friend, the same thing happened to me in January. He died of cancer. In a way, his death was a release from the suffering he was going through, he wasn't himself in his final hours, he didn't speak to anyone, not even my grandmother, he just lay there in bed with his eyes open. I was fortunate enough not to watch him die. :smallfrown:

A Rainy Knight

2009-03-11, 03:14 PM

I heard. I feel your pain my friend, the same thing happened to me in January. He died of cancer. In a way, his death was a release from the suffering he was going through, he wasn't himself in his final hours, he didn't speak to anyone, not even my grandmother, he just lay there in bed with his eyes open. I was fortunate enough not to watch him die. :smallfrown:

Dealing with death is hard. I just lost my great-grandfather about a month back. He was 99. :smallfrown:

The hardest part was seeing him age. He did everything for himself: he grew up in the Depression, but he became a farmer and lived a clean, hard-working life. And if you asked him how he was doing, any day at all, he would always reply "Mighty fine!" But when he was older, I knew he didn't enjoy having to rely on a walker, on other people, on anything else. He enjoyed being able to support his own life, and it pained him to lose that self-sufficience.

God, I wish I had been able to say goodbye to him. :smallfrown:

Fredthefighter

2009-03-11, 03:20 PM

Dealing with death is hard. I just lost my great-grandfather about a month back. He was 99. :smallfrown:

The hardest part was seeing him age. He did everything for himself: he grew up in the Depression, but he became a farmer and lived a clean, hard-working life. And if you asked him how he was doing, any day at all, he would always reply "Mighty fine!" But when he was older, I knew he didn't enjoy having to rely on a walker, on other people, on anything else. He enjoyed being able to support his own life, and it pained him to lose that self-sufficience.

God, I wish I had been able to say goodbye to him. :smallfrown:

We all wish we had the chance to say goodbye to the people we've lost in life. Even if I had said goodbye to my granddad though, in his state, he probably wouldn't have heard me, or at least he wouldn't have been able to say anything back.
But enough about death. We're both still alive (I was the last time I checked, don't know about you. :smalltongue:). The people you lose in life never want you to forget them, but they also don't want you moping about all the while because you miss them.
Okay, I said all that and can't think of a new topic that isn't death-related.

A Rainy Knight

2009-03-11, 03:28 PM

We all wish we had the chance to say goodbye to the people we've lost in life. Even if I had said goodbye to my granddad though, in his state, he probably wouldn't have heard me, or at least he wouldn't have been able to say anything back.
But enough about death. We're both still alive (I was the last time I checked, don't know about you. :smalltongue:). The people you lose in life never want you to forget them, but they also don't want you moping about all the while because you miss them.
Okay, I said all that and can't think of a new topic that isn't death-related.

Yeah, you're completely right. I've pretty well moved on, I'm just disappointed that I never got to tell him exactly how well I thought of him until after he was dead. Ah well, if there's a heaven, he's there, and if it has Internet access, he can find out right now that I think he was a wonderful great-granddad who raised one hell of a family and lived one hell of a life. :smallsmile:

Non-death-related, I live in the middle of a cornfield, and it's manure-spreading time for the farmers. Did someone say something about a ****storm...? :smalltongue:

Player_Zero

2009-03-11, 03:28 PM

Okay, I said all that and can't think of a new topic that isn't death-related.

"CATS," he said eventually, "CATS ARE NICE.”

Fredthefighter

2009-03-11, 03:38 PM

"CATS," he said eventually, "CATS ARE NICE.”

That's a good point. I do like kittens, but I prefer dogs, something about having a loyal companion descended from the cunning wolf just makes me feel proud.

ARK, I like the way you think, because if heaven doesn't have internet access, then I'm pretty much going to build it when I get there. Also, the ****storm made me laugh. Thankyou for that. The Beatles are also cheering me up too. You say you want a revolution, we all wanna change the world. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87yq372R4Ts&feature=related)
Bands that make me proud to be English: Queen, The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin and many more.

A Rainy Knight

2009-03-11, 03:42 PM

That's a good point. I do like kittens, but I prefer dogs, something about having a loyal companion descended from the cunning wolf just makes me feel proud.

ARK, I like the way you think, because if heaven doesn't have internet access, then I'm pretty much going to build it when I get there. Also, the ****storm made me laugh. Thankyou for that. The Beatles are also cheering me up too. You say you want a revolution, we all wanna change the world. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87yq372R4Ts&feature=related)
Bands that make me proud to be English: Queen, The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin and many more.

You know he's quoting Death from Discworld, right?

Also, I have a band that makes me proud to be American (as if we need any reason to be proud other than our kickass giant SUVs and heart-stopping foods :smalltongue:): They Might Be Giants.

Fredthefighter

2009-03-11, 03:45 PM

You know he's quoting Death from Discworld, right?

Also, I have a band that makes me proud to be American (as if we need any reason to be proud other than our kickass giant SUVs and heart-stopping foods :smalltongue:): They Might Be Giants.

Which book? I haven't read them all yet. In the house I have Carpet Juggulum, Making Money, The Truth and Going Postal left to read. I'll move onto them after I finish "Streets of Blood" (Shadowrun novel).
You americans with your SUV's and heart-stopping foods. :smalltongue:
*Shakes fist*
I have one question though, WHERE THE HELL IS DISNEY LAND: ENGLAND?
I like what I've seen of America (Florida, Disney World, Universal Studios/Islands of Adventure, Seaworld, Denny's).

Phaedra

2009-03-11, 03:54 PM

Which book? I haven't read them all yet. In the house I have Carpet Juggulum, Making Money, The Truth and Going Postal left to read. I'll move onto them after I finish "Streets of Blood" (Shadowrun novel).
You americans with your SUV's and heart-stopping foods. :smalltongue:
*Shakes fist*
I have one question though, WHERE THE HELL IS DISNEY LAND: ENGLAND?
I like what I've seen of America (Florida, Disney World, Universal Studios/Islands of Adventure, Seaworld, Denny's).

Off the top of my head, I think it's Mort. But I'm sure someone with better Discworld knowledge or who's actually taken the time to look it up will correct me.

Why would we want a Disneyland? I mean, I've only been to the one in Paris, but I wasn't overly impressed.

Fredthefighter

2009-03-11, 03:59 PM

Off the top of my head, I think it's Mort. But I'm sure someone with better Discworld knowledge or who's actually taken the time to look it up will correct me.

Why would we want a Disneyland? I mean, I've only been to the one in Paris, but I wasn't overly impressed.

The one in Paris is nothing compared to the American one. I suppose we just don't have the space for one that good. Poor us. I like Disney World, it makes me feel like a 10 year old again. The Muppets are my special friends.
I googled it and it's Sourcery.

A Rainy Knight

2009-03-11, 04:03 PM

The one in Paris is nothing compared to the American one. I suppose we just don't have the space for one that good. Poor us. I like Disney World, it makes me feel like a 10 year old again. The Muppets are my special friends.
I googled it and it's Sourcery.

Huh, I thought I'd read that line before, and I haven't read Sourcery. Maybe his love of cats was mentioned in a different book, just not that specific line. I was definitely thinking Mort or Reaper Man, but the power of Google is probably right.

Fredthefighter

2009-03-11, 04:05 PM

Huh, I thought I'd read that line before, and I haven't read Sourcery. Maybe his love of cats was mentioned in a different book, just not that specific line. I was definitely thinking Mort or Reaper Man, but the power of Google is probably right.

Yep, although the actually conversation is
"Then why is life worth living" (Ipserolde I think)
"BECAUSE" he said eventually, "CATS, CATS ARE NICE" (Death)

Quincunx

2009-03-11, 04:08 PM

Fredthefighter

2009-03-11, 04:19 PM

Those tiny lizards skittering along the edges of the ornamental plantings in Disney World wouldn't thrive in the French climate of EuroDisney Disneyland Paris, nor would the fountains and water rides stink downwind with that over-enthusiastic American dose of chlorine, and I cannot imagine that the sunshine descends like syrup anywhere on these rather northerly isles even in summertime. You can't put an entire theme park under glass and call it a hothouse.

Okay. It's just that, as a child (I still consider myself a child) Disney World seems better than Disneyland Paris. Also, I like Florida as a whole, compared to what I've seen of France, which is some of The Alps.

A Rainy Knight

2009-03-11, 04:25 PM

Okay. It's just that, as a child (I still consider myself a child) Disney World seems better than Disneyland Paris. Also, I like Florida as a whole, compared to what I've seen of France, which is some of The Alps.

I've been to Disney World in Florida once. But you know what my favorite vacation destination is? (I'm Virginian, by the way) South Carolina. I go to the beach there almost every summer. It's a great place, and I have way more fun than I think I did in Florida. At least I think so; I was really young when I went to Disney World.

Also, South Carolina's driving laws strike me as a wee bit dangerous. Here in Virginia at my age and with my learner's permit, I can drive a car if a licensed driver at least 21 is in my passenger seat, and I can only carry one (?) non-family passenger. My cousin in South Carolina, who's a few months younger than me? He can drive a car on his own with basically no restrictions other than, I believe, a curfew.

Did you know that South Carolina has one of the lowest life expectancies in the United States? :smalleek:

Edge

2009-03-11, 04:26 PM

My sister has just shown me something amazing...

Nightmare Revisited

The Nightmare Before Christmas soundtrack covered by the likes of Marilyn Manson and KoRn. It's genius.

Fredthefighter

2009-03-11, 04:28 PM

I've been to Disney World in Florida once. But you know what my favorite vacation destination is? (I'm Virginian, by the way) South Carolina. I go to the beach there almost every summer. It's a great place, and I have way more fun than I think I did in Florida. At least I think so; I was really young when I went to Disney World.

Also, South Carolina's driving laws strike me as a wee bit dangerous. Here in Virginia at my age and with my learner's permit, I can drive a car if a licensed driver at least 21 is in my passenger seat, and I can only carry one (?) non-family passenger. My cousin in South Carolina, who's a few months younger than me? He can drive a car on his own with basically no restrictions other than, I believe, a curfew.

Did you know that South Carolina has one of the lowest life expectancies in the United States? :smalleek:

Well, Florida is the only time I've ever been to America. So I don't know what the rest is like.
I didn't know that about South Carolina though. If I get the chance though, I'll have to take a trip to Virginia and come visit you my friend. You've got 6 to 8 years to run. :smalltongue:

CurlyKitGirl

2009-03-11, 04:31 PM

Which book? I haven't read them all yet. In the house I have Carpet Juggulum, Making Money, The Truth and Going Postal left to read. I'll move onto them after I finish "Streets of Blood" (Shadowrun novel).

SHame upon ye who calls himself a geek and one who worships I, the Goddess of the Written Word, yet does not read he whom I have blessed with my highest powers and blessed with the greatest of Muses.
For to forsake the one who has my patronage is likened unto blasphemy in the apocryphal writings.
Shame on ye. Shame and damnation eternal.

A Rainy Knight

2009-03-11, 04:33 PM

Well, Florida is the only time I've ever been to America. So I don't know what the rest is like.
I didn't know that about South Carolina though. If I get the chance though, I'll have to take a trip to Virginia and come visit you my friend. You've got 6 to 8 years to run. :smalltongue:

Well then, you're deprived of the stereotypes we Americans make of each other! Let me fill you in on one: :smalltongue:

Here in Virginia, West Virginians are basically seen as inbred hillbillies who make a living out of shooting woodland creatures and eating them. I'm not saying it's true, there's a lovely and smart West Virginia-born girl in my class, but I'm certainly saying it's good to poke fun at West Virginians with.

Fredthefighter

2009-03-11, 04:42 PM

Well then, you're deprived of the stereotypes we Americans make of each other! Let me fill you in on one: :smalltongue:

Here in Virginia, West Virginians are basically seen as inbred hillbillies who make a living out of shooting woodland creatures and eating them. I'm not saying it's true, there's a lovely and smart West Virginia-born girl in my class, but I'm certainly saying it's good to poke fun at West Virginians with.

Hmmm, I promise not to poke fun unless provoked. :smalltongue:

SHame upon ye who calls himself a geek and one who worships I, the Goddess of the Written Word, yet does not read he whom I have blessed with my highest powers and blessed with the greatest of Muses.
For to forsake the one who has my patronage is likened unto blasphemy in the apocryphal writings.
Shame on ye. Shame and damnation eternal.

I'm almost finished with "Streets of Blood" anyway.
And who said I worshipped you? I acknowledge that you are incredibly skilled with words, literature and poetry, but I would not go so far as to say "worship".
My faith lies in where England was at it's greatest, where she was the hub of musical culture. My faith lies in The Beatles, Queen, The Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin.
So curse me, I shall never die, I shall never whither and be shut out into the cold.
True, I am very fond of Tery Pratchett's work, but I would not want to run out of books too quickly.
So I give you one last sentence, before you tear me asunder, LONG LIVE THE STAIRWAY!

A Rainy Knight

2009-03-11, 04:49 PM

Goddess, would you care for me to destroy this heretic? :smalltongue:

Also, I'm interested to know: are there any general impressions that you British people have of us Americans?

Fredthefighter

2009-03-11, 04:51 PM

Goddess, would you care for me to destroy this heretic? :smalltongue:

Also, I'm interested to know: are there any general impressions that you British people have of us Americans?

Well, sometimes we see you as slightly arrogant.
And also, some of us think you're all obese.
Don't worry too much about it though, I don't think that at all.
Also, destroy? You think you can my friend? Bring it on is what I have to say. :smalltongue:
EDIT: Well, I have school in the morning so I shall see you all tomorrow..... maybe. I'm not sure whether I'll have the time, deoends whether I go to my Karate lesson or not. Well, goodnight my friends, may the rest of your days be pleasant and wonderful.

CurlyKitGirl

2009-03-11, 04:57 PM

@Fred: you worship Curly, Goddess of the Written Word by default. You read, you worship me.

Goddess, would you care for me to destroy this heretic? :smalltongue:

Gladly for he hath deneid my existence as Most Supreme Deity (of Books). For knowledge is power and I embody knowledge.
*SMITE!*
And lo, the unbeliever was smitten.

Also, I'm interested to know: are there any general impressions that you British people have of us Americans?

Hideous accents; fat; idiotic; heretical non - tea drinking colonists who drive big cars and eat even bigger meals.
And their music sucks.
OR
Hideous accents; too skinny; at least 20% artificial; diet mad colonists who driver "green" cars and are smarter than a chav. Good music though.
OR
Wannabe Brits a la Harvard and Yale with their hideously twangy accents. Films're good though.

Or variations upon said theme.

A Rainy Knight

2009-03-11, 04:58 PM

Well, sometimes we see you as slightly arrogant.
And also, some of us think you're all obese.
Don't worry too much about it though, I don't think that at all.
Also, destroy? You think you can my friend? Bring it on is what I have to say. :smalltongue:

Heh heh. Arrogant. Welcome to the American South, where, if it ain't American, then by God it ain't no good. :smalltongue:

We generally see you as having that funny accent, as having lots of quaint but cute little peculiarities (especially in the British vocabulary - loo, lift, torch, boot n' bonnet, chips = french fries), and as THE HATED OPRESSORS! Not really. :smalltongue:

Bring it on? Well, you asked for it. Taste the wrath of my stern verbal reprimand! "Bad Fred! Listen to the nice Curly!"

Sneak

2009-03-11, 05:13 PM

I wish I had a New Zealand accent. :smallfrown:

Also: GOD BLESS MY S.U.V.! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAxIgcPsHFs)

Also v 2.0: finally started a comic, at least...even if it may not be a good one. :smalltongue: Please check link in sig...

...please? :smalltongue:

Phaedra

2009-03-11, 05:14 PM

you worship Curly, Goddess of the Written Word by default. You read, you worship me.

So... everyone who reads worships you? This doesn't fit with my long fought for right to apathetic agnosticism at all.

Are you a benevolent goddess, or should I start looking for goats to sacrifice and the like? Because it's harder to find goats than you'd think.

Lyesmith

2009-03-11, 05:19 PM

Are you a benevolent goddess, or should I start looking for goats to sacrifice and the like? Because it's harder to find goats than you'd think.

Do you see any goats around? No! 'Cause I sacrificed them!

Oh dark prince, come fill me with your black, naughty evil!
All hail Willow!

They had to be said.
'm on a buffy binge.
And midway through Nightwatch.

ALSO.
Where Do We Go From Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfoZLwhp--M&feature=related)? Stuck in my head.

Phase

2009-03-11, 05:28 PM

I'm guessing this post ends up on top of the next page.

Anyway, reading Macbeth The Scottish Play. Pretty good so far, I've learned to analyze themes and symbolism from my English Lit teacher who happens to be good enough to make it fun.

Sneak

2009-03-11, 05:30 PM

I'm reading Moby ****.

Surprisingly, I'm actually enjoying it, once I get past the random cetology chapters. :smalltongue:

Rawhide

2009-03-11, 05:36 PM

Do you see any goats around? No! 'Cause I sacrificed them!

http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/fail-owned-payment-fail.jpg

Phaedra

2009-03-11, 05:42 PM

Do you see any goats around? No! 'Cause I sacrificed them!

So that's why I can't find any goats. I blame this for my lack of ultimate cosmic power. Not enough goats. It's always the way.

Thufir

2009-03-11, 07:29 PM

Which book? I haven't read them all yet.

What? You're 15. How have you not read them all? FAIL.

Carpet Juggulum

MORE FAIL.

Also, I'm interested to know: are there any general impressions that you British people have of us Americans?

I kind of think the majority of your fellow countrymen are morons.

ION: I went to see the NUTS (Newcastle University Theatre Society) production of Men At Arms this evening. And I saw that it was good.
However I am in agreement with a friend who I went with: Theatre etiquette should be enforced at gonnepoint. Those people are all totally going to the special hell...

A Rainy Knight

2009-03-11, 07:45 PM

Jack Squat

2009-03-11, 08:20 PM

@Thufir: It just seems to be the ones who start on the tobacco, alcohol, and drugs at my age that are morons. (I'm sixteen) We've got a lot of redneck-type people around here, big on underage beer and chewing tobacco, and I just saw one of the administrators haul one off to the office last week. Probably had tobacco in his backpack. Moron, taking tobacco to school.

I do not involve myself with any of these things.

We had a big problem with people at my high school using chewing tobacco and dip. This was mostly in the vocational building, and they weren't really dealt with. Most of the time because they would keep it inbetween class changes, in the bathroom. You could also clearly see the worn outline of a can in their back pocket.

I remember one guy getting caught by a teacher, him saying that his spit bottle contained Dr. Pepper (mind you, you could see the tobacco floating around in it). The teacher said if that's true, finish it off or get sent to the office. The guy drank it :smallbiggrin:

But yeah, most people aren't like that. Most of our morons are the people who religiously follow American Idol, Dancing with the Stars, or whatever else is on TV now, as well as celebrities. They're still a minority, just an all too boisterous one.

Sneak

2009-03-11, 08:25 PM

Yuck. I find tobacco absolutely disgusting. :smallyuk:

There's drinking and drug use at my school, but really the only drug used is marijuana, so eh. And no one chews tobacco, thank goodness.

And people don't usually do either of those at school.

I go to private school, though, so that may be different...

EDIT: Mein Gott, this is a slow day in the playground!

A Rainy Knight

2009-03-11, 08:47 PM

We've apparently got marijuana around our school, giving us quite a colorful nickname. Thankfully, most of the troublemaking is concerning things other than kids getting beaten up in the halls. I do feel safe at school, as the only fights that break out are usually between people who violently hate each other. And no one hates me. :smallsmile:

So, yeah, I'm glad that most of our problems involve people going and getting high/drunk/oral cancer nice and far away from me.