Avatar Battle Royale-Discussion Thread XXI: We're a Big, Happy, Dysfunctional Family

[Green-Shirt Q]

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Previous ABR discussion threads
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Eighth ABR thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87949)
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Tenth ABR Thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93128)
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Twelfth ABR Thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93731)
Thirteenth ABR Thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95173)
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Seventeenth ABR Thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101589)
Eighteenth ABR thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104119)
Nineteenth ABR thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106464)
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Fat Fish Fury (managed by Mechafox)
Part 1 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3439552&postcount=663)
Part 2 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3444141&postcount=793)
Part 3 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3918591&postcount=229)
Part 4 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4753626&postcount=406)
Part 5 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5217814&postcount=383)

Plot 3 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3803944&postcount=963) (also by Mechafox)

Sorcerer Dude Strikes Back (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3965082&postcount=633) (managed by Szilard)

Sprite Wars Archive (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4380002&postcount=245) (managed by me)

And coming soon will be the Future Imperfect archive (probably managed by Mad Mask), the follow-up story to Fat Fish Fury.
List containing all PCs participating in Future Imperfect (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5530814&postcount=763)
The Organizational Chart of The Resistance (http://www.kinogo.com/victor/resistanceschema2.gif) (By Mad Mask, who has far too much time on his hands)

BRC's Whimsical Guide to Joining ABR (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5603132&postcount=1429).


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[T-O-E]

The new thread's finally up!

[Keris]

Oh it is, is it?

Well in that case...

Dibs on making the next thread!

[Mina Kobold]

Nice thread Q *breathes* Ah love that new thread smell, smells like doom.

[-skimmer-]

Number "21" was always my favourite:smallsmile:


Edit: GAH!! We're gonna miss the party:smalleek:

[Calamity]

Edit: GAH!! We're gonna miss the party:smalleek:

At the rate the main plot is going, almost the entire cast is going to miss the party. :smalltongue:

[Nameless]

Yay! New thread!
*hugs and kisses for all*
*runs around screaming*

[Mina Kobold]

Yay! New thread!
*hugs and kitties for all*


YAY! this way it's funnier

At the rate the main plot is going, almost the entire cast is going to miss the party. :smalltongue:

Probably for the best, we would just destroy the citadel :smalltongue:

[-skimmer-]

But but but it's a party for heroes without heroes! :smalleek:
That's just anticlimatic, imagine all sad faces of our fans waiting for us!
We need to rush the plot:smallmad:



:smalltongue:

[Nameless]

But but but it's a party for heroes without heroes! :smalleek:
That's just anticlimatic, imagine all sad faces of our fans waiting for us!
We need to rush the plot:smallmad:



:smalltongue:

Am I a hero?

[Mina Kobold]

Am I a hero?

Nameless might, might qualify but I don't think you do, sorry:smallfrown::smalltongue:.


@-Skimmer-: That sound impossible...

I'm in!

[-skimmer-]

Am I a hero?

Probably not intentionaly, but as lyings sidekick who's well known hero in the Avbaroy you qualify as one.....

You always had the front middle position on the group photos when new FFF threads was made, don't you?:smalltongue:

[Nameless]

Probably not intentionaly, but as lyings sidekick who's well known hero in the Avbaroy you qualify as one.....

You always had the front middle position on the group photos when new FFF threads was made, don't you?:smalltongue:

*feels special* :smallbiggrin:

[Threeshades]

*feels special* :smallbiggrin:

Yo have always been special, nameless. :smallsmile:

[Emperor Ing]

*feels special* :smallbiggrin:

nameless has boobies

[Lemming]

*Sniff*
Aah... New thread smell...
*Inhale*
*INHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALE!*
...Where'd Nameless go? :smalltongue:
Also, maybe you are tired cause you have mono or something.

[Mina Kobold]

Yo have always been special, nameless. :smallsmile:

Aren't we all :smallsmile:

Seriously normality is an illusion but that don't make Nameless or anyone else less special *stares dreamily off in distance*

[Threeshades]

Aren't we all :smallsmile:

Seriously normality is an illusion but that don't make Nameless or anyone else less special *stares dreamily off in distance*

I assume you didn't get my drift. :smallamused:

[Green-Shirt Q]

Nameless, if it means anything to you, you were always one of the people I first thought of when I thought of the main characters of ABR.

If it were up to me, Salmon and Threeshades wouldn't be as main-charactery as you would be. :smallbiggrin:

[Mad Mask]

Nameless, if it means anything to you, you were always one of the people I first thought of when I thought of the main characters of ABR.

If it were up to me, Salmon and Threeshades wouldn't be as main-charactery as you would be. :smallbiggrin:

Along with Q, I guess ? :smallamused:

[Lemming]

I would lol if there was a plot dedicated to Nameless. :smalltongue:

[Green-Shirt Q]

Along with Q, I guess ? :smallamused:

I suppose, but I think even Nameless would surpass him in main-characteriness.

I mean, he's the main source of comic relief in ABR these days! He's the funniest one of all of us! He should be a mainer character with Lying! :smalleek:

Also, if it were up to me, there would be no Ins. Ins sucks. :smallannoyed:

Good thing it's not up to me, though.

[Mina Kobold]

I assume you didn't get my drift. :smallamused:

I get philosophical this late, so I have no idea *logic senses tingling* does it have anything to do with hitting on him? if not then I don't know.


@Lemming: A plot dedicated to Nameless sound fun:smallsmile:

[Lyinginbedmon]

Also, if it were up to me, there would be no Ins. Ins sucks. :smallannoyed:

Kinda the idea, he is the Magnificent Bastard (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagnificentBastard)

[Green-Shirt Q]

Kinda the idea, he is the Magnificent Bastard (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagnificentBastard)

So is Q, apperently. According to the Avatar Battle Royale page. :smallconfused:

My point is: I think Nameless should be classafied as Main Character, and if it were up to me Ins wouldn't have such a big friggen role in the next plot.

And another thing! I don't understand the concept of FI. If everybody's happy under Ins as a leader, why do we have to save them?! :smallconfused::smallannoyed:

[Keris]

I get philosophical this late, so I have no idea *logic senses tingling* does it have anything to do with hitting on him? if not then I don't know.
"Special" in terms of brain function/capacity. At least, that's what I'd inferred.


Kinda the idea, he is the Magnificent Bastard (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagnificentBastard)

He seems more "Manipulative Bastard" to me. I mean, what has he done that's magnificent?


And another thing! I don't understand the concept of FI. If everybody's happy under Ins as a leader, why do we have to save them?! :smallconfused::smallannoyed:
Because Ins is an evil space robot zombie, so is obviously planning something. :smallsigh:

[Mina Kobold]

So is Q, apperently. According to the Avatar Battle Royale page. :smallconfused:

My point is: I think Nameless should be classafied as Main CHaracter, and if it were up to me Ins wouldn't have such a big friggen role in the next plot.

And another thing! I don't understand the concept of FI. If everybody's happy under Ins as a leader, why do we have to save them?! :smallconfused::smallannoyed:

We think he's up to something (evil clones are evil after all) but wheter we are right or good at all is supposed to be unknown in this plot (darker and edgier wit many many grey-zones if you get the drill) he might be good and we evil, we are just sure it's opposite (might be wrong):smallsmile:

[-skimmer-]

So is Q, apperently. According to the Avatar Battle Royale page. :smallconfused:

My point is: I think Nameless should be classafied as Main Character, and if it were up to me Ins wouldn't have such a big friggen role in the next plot.

And another thing! I don't understand the concept of FI. If everybody's happy under Ins as a leader, why do we have to save them?! :smallconfused::smallannoyed:

I think you're trying to survive in the first place....saving world is a bonus

[Mad Mask]

Almighty Salmon said the world would be in ruins in the future.

And Ins is religious.

[Lemming]

I still think Salmon should turn into a flying laser shark and own the shades. And Nameless could jump over him. :smallsmile:

[Nameless]

Yo have always been special, nameless. :smallsmile:

Don't patronise me. :smalltongue:


nameless has boobies

*Ignores* :smallannoyed:


Nameless, if it means anything to you, you were always one of the people I first thought of when I thought of the main characters of ABR.

Aww. *feels loved* :smalltongue:


I would lol if there was a plot dedicated to Nameless.

I sense... I sense a chain reaction to this post... :smalleek:


I mean, he's the main source of comic relief in ABR these days! He's the funniest one of all of us! He should be a mainer character with Lying!

*feels even more loved*


...Where'd Nameless go?

I'm right here. *waves* :smallconfused: :smallsmile:

[Emperor Ing]

I still think Salmon should turn into a flying laser shark and own the shades. And Nameless could jump over him. :smallsmile:

Laser sharks, what could possibly go wrong? :smalltongue:

[Lemming]

I'm right here. *waves* :smallconfused: :smallsmile:
Guess I inhaled SP. :smalltongue:

[Keris]

Almighty Salmon said the world would be in ruins in the future.

And Ins is religious.

That's a pretty insensitive conclusion you're asking us to draw. :smallconfused:

And for all we know, the world could end up in ruins because of the actions of the Resistance.

[Nameless]

Laser sharks, what could possibly go wrong? :smalltongue:

SHHH! *puts hands over Rands mouth*
DON'T SAY THAT! :smalleek:

[Green-Shirt Q]

I think you're trying to survive in the first place....saving world is a bonus
Why are we trying to survive if everything's good under Ins? If we weren't rebelling, then why would we even need to survive?


We think he's up to something (evil clones are evil after all) but wheter we are right or good at all is supposed to be unknown in this plot (darker and edgier wit many many grey-zones if you get the drill) he might be good and we evil, we are just sure it's opposite (might be wrong):smallsmile:

Ah. That makes sense.

Still, I know that this is rather late in the development and mad mask has everything already planned and all, but I vote that the future is a little more hellish. A little more gritty with a lot more people unhappy. A setting a little more like.....well, the on in [warning, this link may not be suitable for eveyone] this (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/there-will-be-brawl/496-Episode-One), for example.

With bars, gang realated violence and massive unhappiness from people other then us, I think darkness and grittiness would be easier to achieve. I mean, look at the video series I linked! It's about Nintendo, and it's dark and gritty to the bone! :smalleek:

I just think it's something we could think about.

[Mad Mask]

I still think Salmon should turn into a flying laser shark and own the shades. And Nameless could jump over him. :smallsmile:

And I think he should turn into a flying penguin.

@Keris Rain: That's the whole point of the story. :smalltongue:

Avbaroy is (in non-rebellious territories and for the average commoner) an utopia, and the Resistance wants it down.

^I am open to that, if it's not the fault of the UNA. But the Sovices, on the other hand...

Remember folks, UNA = Good, Sovices = Not Good.

[Keris]

@Keris Rain: That's the whole point of the story. :smalltongue:

What, that blanket opinions that religion is destructive are insensitive, or that the Resistance creates a stable time loop?

[Mad Mask]

What, that blanket opinions that religion is destructive are insensitive, or that the Resistance creates a stable time loop?

No, that the Resistance is not sure about what really caused the destruction of the world, as suggested by Kazul. There may or may not be a stable time loop.

[Lyinginbedmon]

Remember folks, UNA = Good, Sovices = Not Good.

That's also a little too clear cut, given the Sovice civil war.

The New Sovice Empire likes Avbaroy, though they have strong ethics regarding noninterference with pre-spacefaring civilisations. Basically "If they couldn't find us and ask for help themselves, we don't help them", real "prime directive" kinda stuff really, but they have occasionally lent a hand to non-spacefaring civilisations, especially when Maeter is involved (Which she's taken quite a bit of flack for) because she's got a much more human view of who to help.

The Holy Sovice Militia however adhere to the tenets and teachings of the Sovice gods as if nothing exists. They've assaulted Avbaroy before and they're the Sovices that Lying refers to when he talks about Sovices negatively. Ins, the intelligence of a Sovice block left over from that first assault, adheres to the HSM beliefs (Though it's entirely possible he doesn't realise there's a civil war occuring, given the time he's been apart from the hivemind)

[Keris]

No, that the Resistance is not sure about what really caused the destruction of the world, as suggested by Kazul. There may or may not be a stable time loop.

Ah. So you were replying to the second point I raised, and had ignored the first.

Remind me again, who is Kazul? I can't seem to find him on the Wiki.

[SinisterPenguin]

A new thread that we don't have to wait three weeks for?

...What is this madness?


Guess I inhaled SP. :smalltongue:

Who, me? I'm right here. :smallconfused:

[Lemming]

And I think he should turn into a flying penguin.
I know sharks have no bones and salmon do, but its still closer than a bird.
Beisdes, sharks are more awesome than penguins and we already have a penguin. :smallwink:

Also Leroy should turn into a whale. :smalltongue:

[Emperor Ing]

Blah blah useless sovice fluff blah blah Empire blah blah control Avbaroy blah blah blah unstoppable blah blah blah blah blah.

I have to say, I find that pretty enlightening.

[-skimmer-]

Why are we trying to survive if everything's good under Ins? If we weren't rebelling, then why would we even need to survive?


Paranoia? You know, he's evil, you fighted him and you're the only ones who know about it......besides, you're all epic level heroes with unmatched skills. So if he wants to make any use of his firepower (Navy works for it), he needs you either at his side or dead.....when Igon Minoblendy gets poisoned, you don't have to guess twice who did it and why....the question is: who will stay?

[memnarch]

*sovice stuffs*

I agree, that is enlightening.

[Calamity]

Who knew loofas could be so intelligent.

[VampireRot]

*sovice stuffes*

Bah. The only thing I need to know about the Sovices is that they are evil nanobots. IN FROM SPACE!!!

[Nameless]

Who knew loofas could be so intelligent.

Loofas? :smallconfused:

[Emperor Ing]

Loofas? :smallconfused:

Hey look, a talking loofa!

[Keris]

I agree, that is enlightening.

It would also be enlightening if I set you on fire. Shall we try it, pixie boy?


Who knew loofas could be so intelligent.
Heh. "Racial Charisma penalty."

[VampireRot]

Heh. "Racial Charisma penalty."


Grope! :smallbiggrin:

[Nameless]

Hey look, a talking loofa!

:smallconfused:

[Kazul]

You last visited: 02-01-2009 at 12:02 AM

Huh.

Anyway, hi. :smallbiggrin: I see the new plot hasn't started yet? :smallsigh:


Remind me again, who is Kazul? I can't seem to find him on the Wiki.

That's because I've never truly joined ABR; I just used to discuss few plot & world details with MM, Grem & SoG (if I recall corectly)

[Emperor Ing]

:smallconfused:

I wont bother, you had to have 'take it off' explained to you :smallyuk:

[Keris]

:smallconfused:

He's just trying to confuse you. A loofa (or loofah, luffa, lufah, etc.) is a vegetable.

EDIT:
I've never truly joined ABR; I just used to discuss few plot & world details with MM, Grem & SoG (if I recall corectly)

Gah! You! I have very little memories of you! But you have the hearing of an internet hawk!

[Calamity]

Heh. "Racial Charisma penalty."

Grope! :smallbiggrin:


...
:smallannoyed:

Y'know, I'm still as vengeful as ever. :smalltongue:

[VampireRot]

:smallconfused:

I give you the FIRST time Ins. shows up in ABR! (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y196/Tobi-Sean/VsSalmon12a.png)

...

Yes, Ins. is the loofa. Or, in other terms, Calamity's soap thingy. Tee hee.

[Calamity]

I give you the FIRST time Ins. shows up in ABR! (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y196/Tobi-Sean/VsSalmon12a.png)

...

Yes, Ins. is the loofa. Or, in other terms, Calamity's soap thingy. Tee hee.

I seriously hope that isn't Ins. :smallyuk:

[SinisterPenguin]

:smallconfused:

A loofa is a plant used as a bath sponge (well, according to Wikipedia, anyway). When the Sovices were first introduced, Calamity mistook them for a loofa and proceeded to use them while taking a bath.

[Nameless]

He's just trying to confuse you. A loofa (or loofah, luffa, lufah, etc.) is a vegetable.

Aye, but why am I a loofah? :smallconfused:

[VampireRot]

I seriously hope that isn't Ins. :smallyuk:

Well, Ins. is the spirit of a Sovice in human form. So your loofa could be him. :smalltongue:

[Calamity]

Well, Ins. is the spirit of a Sovice in human form. So your loofa could be him. :smalltongue:

I have never thought about it like that.

I wish it had stayed that way. :smalleek:

[Emperor Ing]

I look forward to killing Ins one day :smallbiggrin:

[Kazul]

Gah! You!

I'my happy to see you too, Keris. :smalltongue:


But you have the hearing of an internet hawk!

I have to admit that was quite great, indeed. However, it's not really that surprising (for me, at least) - I've been stalking in this thread for a moment... (like, I don't know, two pages?)

Maybe I should consider becoming assassin of some sort, or something :smallconfused:


Aye, but why am I a loofah?

I see you guys are still up to serious, philosophical questions :smallsmile:

[Keris]

Maybe I should consider becoming assassin of some sort, or something :smallconfused:
An internet-hawk-assassin... interesting...


I see you guys are still up to serious, philosophical questions :smallsmile:
Indeed. Can a man of little brain be considered on the level of a vegetables?

[Nameless]

I see you guys are still up to serious, philosophical questions :smallsmile:

I'm too tired for this. :smallsigh:
*goes back and snuggles a blanket*
ooomnomnomnom

[VampireRot]

Indeed. Can a man of little brain be considered on the level of a vegetables?

Keris! Someone could take lots of offense from that! You should pay attention to the loofa's feelings too!

[memnarch]

It would also be enlightening if I set you on fire. Shall we try it, pixie boy?


Heh. "Racial Charisma penalty."

Go ahead and try it. Dare ya! :smallamused:

[The Gremlin]

Lately, I've been thinking about hand-drawing my comics like Dark Lord Bright does. Mainly because I suck at drawing on here, and if I drew by hand, that would be excused.
Unfortunately, our scanner hasn't been hooked up in a while, so that's not really an option.
Also: Lying, MM, Salmon, TS: Make. A. Comic! :smallannoyed:

[CrimsonAngel]

Dear god, loofas!

[X2]

New thread! Huzzah!

[Szilard]

*New thread dance*

[Nameless]

I'm so scared... :smalleek:

[CrimsonAngel]

Kara
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/CrimsonAngelChris/g350-1.png

Kara's friends:

Tala
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/CrimsonAngelChris/g445.png

Sarah
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/CrimsonAngelChris/g446.png

[Tiffanie Lirle]

Art thread's discussion thread link updated, because I'm cool like that.

Lately, I've been thinking about hand-drawing my comics like Dark Lord Bright does. Mainly because I suck at drawing on here, and if I drew by hand, that would be excused

Afraid not, if your hand drawings are bad you need to practice more. The same applies if something you drew on the computer is bad. :smalltongue:

[VampireRot]

Kara
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/CrimsonAngelChris/g350-1.png

Kara's friends:

Tala
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/CrimsonAngelChris/g445.png

Sarah
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/CrimsonAngelChris/g446.png

Tala...

>.>
<.<

Where are her clothes?

[CrimsonAngel]

*point* Right there.

[VampireRot]

*point* Right there.

I'm going to be blunt. She's a whore.

[Tiffanie Lirle]

*point* Right there.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8199/gw533hk0.png
Perhaps you should consider a career in video game graphics? <.<

[CrimsonAngel]

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8199/gw533hk0.png
Perhaps you should consider a career in video game graphics? <.<

That's actualy the video game the carachter from.

[VampireRot]

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/CrimsonAngelChris/g6127.png

Heh:smallbiggrin:. But why is there a demon guy there? A snarky PC like Q or Xarvyte would make more sense.

[CrimsonAngel]

Origional Tala
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/CrimsonAngelChris/tala.jpg

[VampireRot]

Origional Tala
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/CrimsonAngelChris/tala.jpg

:smallwink:As I said. Whore.:smallwink:

[Nameless]

Origional Tala
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/CrimsonAngelChris/tala.jpg

GW Graphics > WoW Graphics

:smalltongue:

[CrimsonAngel]

:smallwink:As I said. Whore.:smallwink:

You know you like it.

[Tiffanie Lirle]

GW Graphics > WoW Graphics

:smalltongue:

Too bad that same doesn't apply for the gameplay. :smalltongue:

[CrimsonAngel]

Too bad that same doesn't apply for the gameplay. :smalltongue:

Oh my gosh, they've mind controlled Tiff into thinking WoW is good.

[Shades of Gray]

... CoH is better...

[VampireRot]

No! Runescape graphics are teh besterest!

...

Twas a joke?

[CrimsonAngel]

*cries in corner holding guildwars.*

[Tiffanie Lirle]

Oh my gosh, they've mind controlled Tiff into thinking WoW is good.

You know, it does have 11.5 million monthly subscribers for a reason. Even taking multiple accounts into account (ignore that) there are still roughly 10 and a half million people playing WoW.

Don't knock something unless you've tried it.

[CrimsonAngel]

I just made a free trial and now the internet sucks.

[Szilard]

Actualy, this game has the best graphics ever.:smalltongue: (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f350/abardam/stuff/ootsgame-15.swf) <-Click.

[Nameless]

Actualy, this game has the best graphics ever.:smalltongue: (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f350/abardam/stuff/ootsgame-15.swf) <-Click.

:smallbiggrin::smallbiggrin::smallbiggrin:
*playes for hours*

[Fawkes]

*drunkenly stumbles into new thread reeking of blood and alcohol*

Wut'd I missss?

[Nameless]

Wut'd I missss?

EVERYTHING!

[CrimsonAngel]

Yuck, I dislike WoW.

[Mad Mask]

Also: Lying, MM, Salmon, TS: Make. A. Comic! :smallannoyed:

I've done four comics dealing with the main battle even though my character died, so give me some time to relax. :smallannoyed:

Lying is going to do it, one day.

[Green-Shirt Q]

I have added some more tropes to the TV tropes page involving the Qs.

The Leisure Suit Larry (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheLeisureSuitLarry): Q, when trying to pick up Verra and Skimmer.

Garfunkel (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Garfunkel): Green-shirt Q.

Just thought I'd let you all know.

[The Gremlin]

No! Runescape graphics are teh besterest!

...

Twas a joke?

Hey! No mocking Runescape! :smallmad::smalltongue:
Also: CA, you just like doing fanservice for yourself, don't you? It seems like a third of these female paladins you draw have less than modest outfits.

[memnarch]

...

Don't knock something unless you've tried it.

Does the same apply for crack or cocaine? I've heard them compared with WoW sometimes. :smalltongue:

[Darklord Bright]

... CoH is better...

IAWTAC.

I just love the customisation in terms of skills and costume design.

[BRC]

So, I just saw John Oliver perform live. It was amazing.

[Mina Kobold]

So, I just saw John Oliver perform live. It was amazing.

Who?

Also why did Ins split from the hivemind in the first place?...

Is the UNA or the Sovice brainwashing people? cause that could be a fun plot point/subplot

[Ninja Chocobo]

Hey! No mocking Runescape!

There's a reason it's called Run! Escape!

[Wreckingrocc]

Oh, god... I played Runescape for like 6 months back in 6th grade... Then I realized it wasn't a game; it's only a program. Games, methinks, by definition, have to be fun, or at least have to attempt to be fun. Runescape does neither.

I quit WoW last year, and I still stand saying it's probably the best game I've ever played (well, I might like CoD 4 more, but... :P). The only problem is, it's too good. It draws people in, and takes over lives; it's too time-consuming, as you never want to quit playing.

Mages were the best... I heard Blizzard nerfed them in WotLK, though. I love my druid, too :smallsmile:

@Tiff, don't ask them to try it; it is a great game, and they have no reason to mock them, but at least inform them of the consequences and of its addictive nature before asking them to play.

[Calamity]

I've tried WoW. I found it even less addictive and fun than Runescape (well, before they completely ruined Runescape, that is), or, in fact, any other MMO I've ever played.

It makes me wonder how people get so addicted to it.

[Lemming]

They ruined runescape? I thought it was just bad from the start. :smalltongue:

[Wreckingrocc]

Lemming: That's what I thought, too.

Calamity: You have to get past level 7, though the fun doesn't really start until ~20.

Once you hit level cap, raids, battlegrounds, and dungeons are also excellent... As are flying mounts.

[Calamity]

They ruined runescape? I thought it was just bad from the start. :smalltongue:

Yeah. It kinda was in a way, but it was addictive once upon a time. (Well, if you also had friends that played it, as the community there is one of the worst ones ever).

@TnD: I reached those levels. I still didn't have much fun.

[Wreckingrocc]

Calamity, did you do dungeons, battlegrounds, quests, or play with friends? What of trading and getting professions?

[Nameless]

Runescape is awesome.

[Keris]

Runescape is awesome.

8 million ten year olds can't be wrong!

[Nameless]

8 million ten year olds can't be wrong!

But I'm a big boy! :smalltongue:

[Keris]

But I'm a big boy! :smalltongue:

Then you're one of the .5 million players who aren't pre-teen.

[Nameless]

Then you're one of the .5 million players who aren't pre-teen.

No, a lot of people that play it in members world are 20+ :smalltongue:

[The Gremlin]

Yeah, Runescape takes a lot of work, but it actually has a very rich backstory, and a lot of its minigames are awesome now. It also has excellent graphics quality, compared to before.
It has a book, by the way. It's awesomesauce.:smallcool:

[Nameless]

Yeah, Runescape takes a lot of work, but it actually has a very rich backstory, and a lot of its minigames are awesome now. It also has excellent graphics quality, compared to before.
It has a book, by the way. It's awesomesauce.:smallcool:

Actually, I haven't been on it since Easter and I'm a member... :smalltongue:
I should go on it when I get a chance.


*cries in corner holding guildwars.*
*hides on corner holding GW + expansion packs*

[T-O-E]

WoW is a repetitive grindfest and little more.

[Lyinginbedmon]

Also why did Ins split from the hivemind in the first place?...

Is the UNA or the Sovice brainwashing people? cause that could be a fun plot point/subplot

Firstly, the hivemind between each block has a range limit, which is far less than the distance between the surviving blocks from the first assault and the rest of Sovice kind (We're talking light years there).

Secondly, Ins didn't really split voluntarily, he and the rest of the Sovices made from the surviving block in the Fortress of Vengeance were all annihilated and then Ins' block was the one that Onachicken mistakenly resurrected into Lying's corpse.

From there, Ins was basically human, and last I checked humans aren't really bluetooth enabled :smalltongue:

Technically speaking the HSM on Avbaroy is brainwashing people into compliance, but I don't think we're talking Room 101 kinda stuff.

[Mina Kobold]

Runescape is pretty unpopular around here (buyed games are better) and woW is played by everyone (though I'm getting bored with it and I only got one character and he's below level 30) I might check whatever has changed in Runescape but I don't like those games that much (various reasons)

Now back to the important stuff,
@Lying: What about Them (BRC's part of the UNA, I think) would They brainwash people who are too big a thread or knows too much

[Keris]

What about Them (BRC's part of the UNA, I think) would They brainwash people who are too big a thread or knows too much

They are media control, not direct brainwashing. They make sure that the printed word emphasises the good aspects of the UNA, and keeps any negative publicity quashed.

The Ghosts might dabble in some "Room 101" style stuff, but they're officially not part of the UNA government, and any information you have which might lead towards their capture would be appreciated, civilian.

Of course, what the Ghosts get up to is SoG's decision.

[BRC]

They are media control, not direct brainwashing. They make sure that the printed word emphasises the good aspects of the UNA, and keeps any negative publicity quashed.

The Ghosts might dabble in some "Room 101" style stuff, but they're officially not part of the UNA government, and any information you have which might lead towards their capture would be appreciated, civilian.

Of course, what the Ghosts get up to is SoG's decision.
Not quite true. Their purpose is media control, but they are not behind strategic brainwashing to support that end. They won't brainwash an entire crowd to keep them quiet, but if, say, a popular radio broadcaster is rocking the boat a little too much, Grandfather may "request" that the ghost of enchantment, or just have his in-house enchanters, brainwash him a little to keep him in line. Or, if they need a resistance cell leader to commit an atrocity to drum up some bad press for the resistance, they may brainwash him. So They arn't really into brainwashing, and it will only occur on Grandfather's direct order, but they recognize that a washed brain in the right place can be very effective.

[Keris]

Not quite true.

But they won't personally take members of the public into a white, clinical room and expose them to their worst fears in order to reprogram their brains, will they?

What they're doing is brainwashing, but not noticeably so. They gentle nudge public opinion along the right lines, rather than forcing particular dissenters onto different sets of tracks.

They might have particular people forced onto different tracks, but only to help nudge the population at large.

[Shades of Gray]

If people are becoming too rowdy at large/ rock the boat too much, they are indeed brainwashed by Antoine, but only if they have a way to spread the propaganda at large, via radio, tv, etc.

They send the ghost of illusion to press conferences, speeches, etc. To cover up any things they say that they don't like with sound and vision illusions. They might send the ghost of divination to see things a few seconds in the future, seeing if the will say something bad (yay censorship!). Afterwards, Antoine goes to brainwash them. Rinse and Repeat.

[BRC]

But they won't personally take members of the public into a white, clinical room and expose them to their worst fears in order to reprogram their brains, will they?

What they're doing is brainwashing, but not noticeably so. They gentle nudge public opinion along the right lines, rather than forcing particular dissenters onto different sets of tracks.

They might have particular people forced onto different tracks, but only to help nudge the population at large.
Yeah. They only Brainwash specific people in order to indirectly influence others, and that's only if other methods of influence arn't working. And if they DO brainwash, it tends to be subtle. Getting a Beguiler near them to cast a "Suggestion" spell is their primary method. The White-room method of brainwashing is too unsubtle for them. Besides, the problem with the other sort of Brainwashing is that it can be undone, and then the target may remember what happened to them, and Their existence may be uncovered.

[Mina Kobold]

If people are becoming too rowdy at large/ rock the boat too much, they are indeed brainwashed by Antoine, but only if they have a way to spread the propaganda at large, vis radio, tv, etc.

They send the ghost of illusion to press conferences, speeches, etc. To cover up any things they say that they don't like with sound and vision illusions. They might send the ghost of divination to see things a few seconds in the future, seeing if the will say something bad (yay censorship!). Afterwards, Antoine goes to brainwash them. Rinse and Repeat.

What about an insane guy with the survival powers of wolverine who used to work in the UNA (pre-insanity) and his half-devil companion (spied a bit to) yelling out what they know (quite a bit) to everyone and trying to sabotage and ruin as much UNA stuff as possible for unknown reasons? (it's just some idea I have)

[BRC]

What about an insane guy with the survival powers of wolverine who used to work in the UNA (pre-insanity) and his half-devil companion (spied a bit to) yelling out what they know (quite a bit) to everyone and trying to sabotage and ruin as much UNA stuff as possible for unknown reasons? (it's just some idea I have)
That sounds more like a job for the Ghost of Evocation.

Edit: Or They just quote them in INSincere, thus ensuring that they are not taken seriously.

[Mina Kobold]

That sounds more like a job for the Ghost of Evocation.

Who say that kind of plan hasn't been tried (I did specific survival powers of wolverine) besides that they know how to escape if they want (thus why they are a problem)

EDIT: there's still sabotage (they would also do stuff like attacking diplomats from potensial allies of the UNA while wearing UNA uniforms)

EDITEDIT: Wouldn't making them state it was just lies and help repair the damage do better for the UNA than actively try to silence them (the latter indicate that the UNA don't want people to hear it which wouldn't be a problem if it was lies)

[Keris]

What about an insane guy with the survival powers of wolverine who used to work in the UNA (pre-insanity) and his half-devil companion (spied a bit to) yelling out what they know (quite a bit) to everyone and trying to sabotage and ruin as much UNA stuff as possible for unknown reasons? (it's just some idea I have)
He'd probably be incarcerated in either a mental asylum or a high security prison. And he wouldn't know that much, the UNA is pretty benevolent. Only Ins knows what's really going on.


there's still sabotage (they would also do stuff like attacking diplomats from potensial allies of the UNA while wearing UNA uniforms)
And there's such thing as investigations. And security.


Wouldn't making them state it was just lies and help repair the damage do better for the UNA than actively try to silence them (the latter indicate that the UNA don't want people to hear it which wouldn't be a problem if it was lies)
The UNA would do both. They'd claim he's just lying, and attempt to take him into custody. He is a terrorist, after all.

[BRC]

He'd probably be incarcerated in either a mental asylum or a high security prison. And he wouldn't know that much, the UNA is pretty benevolent. Only Ins knows what's really going on.
Not Quite true. Ins has underlings who know part of what's going on, but nobody besides him knows the big picture. Evidence could be found of unscrupulous UNA activity, but rarely is it truely Evil. Mainly, it's just suspicious.

[-skimmer-]

Just something I made two days ago, probably appearance of my two characters in FI:

http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv155/skimmer21/fanart3-1.png
Yeah, I like that random avatar costume of mine
just too much now:smalltongue:


Further explanations later, as I'm now in the middle of exams:smallsigh:

[Mad Mask]

I like it. :smallsmile:

[Mina Kobold]

He'd probably be incarcerated in either a mental asylum or a high security prison. And he wouldn't know that much, the UNA is pretty benevolent. Only Ins knows what's really going on.


And there's such thing as investigations. And security.


The UNA would do both. They'd claim he's just lying, and attempt to take him into custody. He is a terrorist, after all.

The asylum part sounds fun (more destruction can be done) but as far as I know people who think your country just tricked them to come so they could assault them won't always listen to your investigations. I also meant that it would seem more trustworthy if the guy who said it himself comes and say he was misinformed or something (then they put him in an asylum, and probably restrain him otherwise too, cause he's mad MAD)

EDIT: Nice drawing Skimmy:smallsmile:

[Keris]

The asylum part sounds fun (more destruction can be done) but as far as I know people who think your country just tricked them to come so they could assault them won't always listen to your investigations.
But countries that attempting to assassinate foreign dignitaries rarely do so with uniformed soldiers. Try to hard to make it look like the UNA did it, and it becomes obvious that they didn't.


I also meant that it would seem more trustworthy if the guy who said it himself comes and say he was misinformed or something (then they put him in an asylum, and probably restrain him otherwise too, cause he's mad MAD
Well, I don't think they would release him again. Even if they did "cure" his insanity, the sudden change in his behaviour would be disturbing. (i.e. Before custody: "The UNA is evil! EVIL!", after custody: "The UNA is the best thing that has happened to Avbaroy.")
It would also probably make better publicity to have him portrayed as incurable, but still cared for by the government he condemns.

[Mina Kobold]

But countries that attempting to assassinate foreign dignitaries rarely do so with uniformed soldiers. Try to hard to make it look like the UNA did it, and it becomes obvious that they didn't.


Well, I don't think they would release him again. Even if they did "cure" his insanity, the sudden change in his behaviour would be disturbing. (i.e. Before custody: "The UNA is evil! EVIL!", after custody: "The UNA is the best thing that has happened to Avbaroy.")
It would also probably make better publicity to have him portrayed as incurable, but still cared for by the government he condemns.

That's why him being tricked into thinking it was the UNA is a good idea to tell people ("it weren't his fault he was manipulated by the evil resistance into it, THAT shows how far they would go" sounds like good propaganda to me and then they could put him in the asylum to "cure" his brainwashed-by-the-resistance state)

and about the other one: They would be trying to make it sound like the diplomat was only tricked in so the UNA could get a hostile before open war, then it would be outright stupid to hide who you are (you can't use the hostile if no-one knows you have it)

[Keris]

That's why him being tricked into thinking it was the UNA is a good idea to tell people ("it weren't his fault he was manipulated by the evil resistance into it, THAT shows how far they would go" sounds like good propaganda to me and then they could put him in the asylum to "cure" his brainwashed-by-the-resistance state)
But it's even better for the UNA to be able to say "the individual is greatly disturbed. We do not know for sure what caused this, but as the claims he was spouting are similar to the ones levelled by the so called 'Resistance', I think we can draw some conclusions. He's currently being treated at [whatever] Hospital, but we cannot guarantee his recovery any time soon."


and about the other one: They would be trying to make it sound like the diplomat was only tricked in so the UNA could get a hostile before open war, then it would be outright stupid to hide who you are (you can't use the hostile if no-one knows you have it)

I'm only fairly sure I understand what you're saying, but attacking a diplomat would be an act of war. If that was the case, then a diplomat would be taken into custody to use as a bargaining aid, not executed. And certainly not by just two troops in a public area, which is where I assume you'd attack, so as to gain the most impact.

[VampireRot]

How bout a crazy vampire just walks up to the other crazy person and kills him? Problem solved, with violence! :smallbiggrin: And Rot gets a free meal! Though his other meals are free too...

[Mina Kobold]

But it's even better for the UNA to be able to say "the individual is greatly disturbed. We do not know for sure what caused this, but as the claims he was spouting are similar to the ones levelled by the so called 'Resistance', I think we can draw some conclusions. He's currently being treated at [whatever] Hospital, but we cannot guarantee his recovery any time soon."



I'm only fairly sure I understand what you're saying, but attacking a diplomat would be an act of war. If that was the case, then a diplomat would be taken into custody to use as a bargaining aid, not executed. And certainly not by just two troops in a public area, which is where I assume you'd attack, so as to gain the most impact.

Okay sounds reasonable (first part) and screw logic, they are insane (no more discussion about their effectiveness)


How bout a crazy vampire just walks up to the other crazy person and kills him? Problem solved, with violence! :smallbiggrin: And Rot gets a free meal! Though his other meals are free too...

Where's the fun in that :smalltongue: he would probably take Rot with him anyway (zombies are less ongoing than him, you can at least kill them with head shots, and get rid of them by killing them) he also has a partner ya know.That aside, why would Rot go for this guy? vampires get less victims in these Utopias and he is also fighting it (then there's the reason he got insane and freakish, which might be bad for your health)

[VampireRot]

Where's the fun in that :smalltongue: he would probably take Rot with him anyway (zombies are less ongoing than him, you can at least kill them with head shots, and get rid of them by killing them) he also has a partner ya know.That aside, why would Rot go for this guy? vampires get less victims in these Utopias and he is also fighting it (then there's the reason he got insane and freakish, which might be bad for your health)

Rot isn't exactly fighting Ins. He is simply an insane vampire who wants to nom everyone. He doesn't care who he kills. As long as they taste good. He doesn't go around shouting out UNC secrets, he goes around maiming, killing, and eating people.

[CrimsonAngel]

It's all because of the fries.

[VampireRot]

It's all because of the fries.

Eh... What? French fries?

[X2]

Hey Crimson, what was up with those three girls again?

[CrimsonAngel]

They dislike Damien with great intensity, you know, because hate is a mean word.

[SinisterPenguin]

I was bored, so, following in -skimmer-'s lead, I made a random picture of Sinister Penguin as he appears in FI:

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu320/SinisterPenguin/spposter.png

[VampireRot]

Hey Crimson, what was up with those three girls again?

They're whores, they're mad because Damien didn't pay them. Don't pay attention to Crimson. He's crazy. :smalltongue:

[CrimsonAngel]

They're whores, they're mad because Damien didn't pay them. Don't pay attention to Crimson. He's crazy. :smalltongue:

Not all of my characters are whores. :smalltongue:

[X2]

They're whores, they're mad because Damien didn't pay them. Don't pay attention to Crimson. He's crazy. :smalltongue:

I'm thinking of including an eevil member of the Q-Continuum called JacQues in the proceedings.

He'll have a Jack-o-Lantern head and stand one head above all the other characters (like Brain is now).


Not all of my characters are whores. :smalltongue:

Riggghhhtt....

[CrimsonAngel]

Base NPC, If I should change his clothes, just say.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/CrimsonAngelChris/g4371.png

[Szilard]

Not all of my characters are whores. :smalltongue:

Because it is impolite to call a man a whore. The correct term is Jigalo. That probably isn't how you spell it, but whatever.

[X2]

Base NPC, If I should change his clothes, just say.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/CrimsonAngelChris/g4371.png

Yeah, it's a primarily sci-fi setting which means that browns are out and greys are in.

So no one cares about JacQues then?

[Mad Mask]

Yeah, it's a primarily sci-fi setting which means that browns are out and greys are in.

What ? There are no Sci-Fi ABR plots. All of them of fantasy.

And why does Sci-Fi mean that browns are out ? It is a perfectly normal choice of colour.

[memnarch]

Yeah, it's a primarily sci-fi setting which means that browns are out and greys are in.

So no one cares about JacQues then?

But- but- Real is brown (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealIsBrown)! :smalltongue:

[CrimsonAngel]

Yeah, it's a primarily sci-fi setting which means that browns are out and greys are in.

So no one cares about JacQues then?

Hows this?
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.scificool.com/images/2008/02/sam-worthington-terminator2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.scificool.com/avatars-sam-worthington-nabs-terminator-role/&usg=__VxW2cWEaJVa4U8u25SMLz87u3ws=&h=650&w=549&sz=77&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=vZSoqK2Dq4USOM:&tbnh=137&tbnw=116&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dterminator%26hl%3Den%26um%3D1

[X2]

What ? There are no Sci-Fi ABR plots. All of them of fantasy.

And why does Sci-Fi mean that browns are out ? It is a perfectly normal choice of colour.

You are kidding.

[Mad Mask]

You are kidding.

I am not kidding at all.

[SinisterPenguin]

What ? There are no Sci-Fi ABR plots. All of them of fantasy.

Wasn't Plot 3 (sort of) sci-fi? :smallconfused:

[Nameless]

Wasn't Plot 3 (sort of) sci-fi? :smallconfused:

And isn't the up-coming FI Sci-Fi-ish?

[X2]

I am not kidding at all.

Therein lies the source of the confusion.

:smallconfused:

[Mad Mask]

Wasn't Plot 3 (sort of) sci-fi? :smallconfused:

No, it has dragons, magic and vampires. Completely fantasy.

Advanced technology ≠ Sci-Fi.

[Calamity]

I'd say the Sovices definitely would come under the category of Sci-fi. And since they have a big role in FI... I'd say Nameless is right in it being sci-fi ish.

[X2]

No, it has dragons, magic and vampires. Completely fantasy.

Advanced technology ≠ Sci-Fi.

Oh please... magic and vampires can easily be transitioned to sci-fi. Would you call FF8 a fantasy?

[Calamity]

Oh please... magic and vampires can easily be transitioned to sci-fi. Would you call FF8 a fantasy?

Yes. It is called Final Fantasy, after all. :smalltongue:

But seriously, FF8 was mostly Fantasy, with like, bits of Sci-fi. That's not a good example.

[Mad Mask]

I'd say the Sovices definitely would come under the category of Sci-fi. And since they have a big role in FI... I'd say Nameless is right in it being sci-fi ish.

Fantasy is about magic (the impossible), and Sci-Fi is about future technology/science (the possible).

The Sovices use magic. Therefore, they are fantasy.

[Calamity]

Fantasy is about the magic, and Sci-Fi is about future technology/science.

The Sovices use magic. Therefore, they are fantasy.

Since when has it been stated that the Sovices use magic? Why, I just looked at the ABR wiki, and what I gathered from that, is that they use nanomachines.

[SinisterPenguin]

No, it has dragons, magic and vampires. Completely fantasy.

Completely fantasy? I don't think so. Advanced technology might not equal sci-fi, but it is a staple of the genre. I'd say it's a little bit of both sci-fi and fantasy. The two genres can easily be mixed.

[X2]

Yes. It is called Final Fantasy, after all. :smalltongue:

But seriously, FF8 was mostly Fantasy, with like, bits of Sci-fi. That's not a good example.

I'm surrounded by idiots*!

*Idiots referr to anyone who doesn't agree with my point of view. Seriously, look it up while I guard your wallet.

[Calamity]

I'm surrounded by idiots*!

*Idiots referr to anyone who doesn't agree with my point of view. Seriously, look it up while I guard your wallet.

You're just jealous because I'm right. :smalltongue:

[X2]

You're just jealous because I'm right. :smalltongue:

At least I'm not gullible. Like you.

FYI, I'm buying Doctor Who with your wallet money! :smalltongue:

[Calamity]

At least I'm not gullible. Like you.

FYI, I'm buying Doctor Who with your wallet money! :smalltongue:

I'm a Rogue. It's not like it was mine anyway. :smallbiggrin:

[memnarch]

Clarke's third law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke's_three_laws); ever hear of it? (wikipedia link)

[X2]

I'm a Rogue. It's not like it was mine anyway. :smallbiggrin:

*watching Doctor Who*

Oh Colin Baker... everyone hates you but me...

[Lemming]

Because it is impolite to call a man a whore. The correct term is Jigalo. That probably isn't how you spell it, but whatever.
Jigalo 2: Electric Bugalo
:smalltongue:

[Mad Mask]

Completely fantasy? I don't think so. Advanced technology might not equal sci-fi, but it is a staple of the genre. I'd say it's a little bit of both sci-fi and fantasy. The two genres can easily be mixed.

A primitive could say that the Lord of the Rings is Sci-Fi because it has swords, which are advanced technology (for his time).

[Darklord Bright]

...There is such thing as Science Fantasy, you know. Star Wars is a case in point. It has both magic and super advanced technology. Steampunk is also considered Sci-Fi, or Science Fantasy if there are still fantasy elements in.

[Szilard]

Clarke's third law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke's_three_laws); ever hear of it? (wikipedia link)

As soon as I saw Mad Mask say that whatever he said about magic and advanced tech, this is what I thought of.:smalltongue:

[Lemming]

A primitive could say that the Lord of the Rings is Sci-Fi because it has swords, which are advanced technology (for his time).
???????????
No he couldn't. :smalltongue:
Swords were not advanced in the time period Tolkein wrote the Lord of the Rings.

@V: Oh, lol. I though MM meant primitive as in a stupid person (don't ask why. I have no idea) XD :smallredface:
A primative human would probably not be able to read it in the first place and be more amazed with the time-travel technology that would be needed to get him and the books together. :smalltongue:
But aside from that I see what you mean now. :smallbiggrin:

[T-O-E]

A primitive could say that the Lord of the Rings is Sci-Fi because it has swords, which are advanced technology (for his time).

Unless Lemming's making a joke of the books' age.

[X2]

Ned Flanders: Why don't we just agree to disagree?
Skinner: I don't agree to that.
Edna: Neither do I!

[Szilard]

A primitive couldn't read/know what a book is...

[X2]

A primitive couldn't read/know what a book is...

Unless:

A. It was part of a Family Guy cutaway joke
B. Takes advantage of the relativity of the word "primitave"
C. Purple monkey dishwasher.
D. Was a Time Lord

[Darklord Bright]

Reviewing the article on Science Fantasy again, and I think that it fits the bill perfectly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fantasy

[Mad Mask]

So Tolkien is Science Fantasy ! :smallbiggrin:

[SinisterPenguin]

A primitive could say that the Lord of the Rings is Sci-Fi because it has swords, which are advanced technology (for his time).

Yes, alright. So? A person from the future might watch, say, Star Trek, and say "Wow, that technology is really primitive!". That doesn't make Star Trek any less Sci-Fi for it's time. In other words, what qualifies as science fiction and what qualifies as fantasy may change as time goes on. Who knows?

And yes, science fantasy sounds about what you might call Plot 3.

EDIT:

Self avatar by me.

I hope you don't actually look like that in real life, MM. :smalleek: :smalltongue:

[Darklord Bright]

So Tolkien is Science Fantasy ! :smallbiggrin:

The funny thing is - It could actually be. If you take into account that it may or may not be taking place in primitive earth (I may be wrong, but I believe he got at that in his notes somewhere) then it is entirely possible to consider it Science Fantasy.

And I'm not sure whether I'm joking or not.

The ring gives people nanomachines that drive them crazy?

[T-O-E]

Mad Mask: Do you really look like your avatar? :smalltongue:

[Darklord Bright]

I've pegged the subgenre that the plots seem to be heading in.

"Science Fantasy otherworlds

Some science fantasies use fantasy worlds with the thinnest veneer of science fictional trappings, only distinguishable with difficulty from standard fantasy. An early example of this type is Eric Rücker Eddison's The Worm Ouroboros, nominally set on the planet Mercury, but a Mercury that is indistinguishable in any way from a fantasy Earth. This work may be considered a borderline case.

In Andre Norton's Witch World series, the fantasy world is excused as a parallel universe. There are a few science fictional elements in the earlier stories of this series, which are absent from the later novels.

Terry Brooks' Shannara books represent the fantasy world as the far future of a lost technological civilization."

[Mad Mask]

Mad Mask: Do you really look like your avatar? :smalltongue:

Yes, I do. :smalltongue:

[X2]

Mad Mask: Do you really look like your avatar? :smalltongue:

Welcome to possibly the best subject change in the history of subject changes! Oh....

And also, TJH = Science Fantasy

[Mad Mask]

Welcome to possibly the best subject change in the history of subject changes!

And also, TJH = Science Fantasy

WHAT ?

*brain death*

[T-O-E]

The funny thing is - It could actually be. If you take into account that it may or may not be taking place in primitive earth (I may be wrong, but I believe he got at that in his notes somewhere) then it is entirely possible to consider it Science Fantasy.

And I'm not sure whether I'm joking or not.

The ring gives people nanomachines that drive them crazy?

Maybe middle earth's a computer simulation?

[Darklord Bright]

Maybe middle earth's a computer simulation?

The Hobbits are Newbies and the Shire is the Tutorial area. That's why everyone is surprised when they knock some self-procalimed 'Uber-leet" badass on his ass.

It's just RP heavy. :smalltongue:

[X2]

WHAT ?

*brain death*

Finally... :smallannoyed:

[T-O-E]

The Hobbits are Newbies and the Shire is the Tutorial area. That's why everyone is surprised when they knock some self-procalimed 'Uber-leet" badass on his ass.

It's just RP heavy. :smalltongue:

Read "DM of the Rings"?

[Darklord Bright]

Read "DM of the Rings"?

Only the first few pages, and I had forgotten until you mentioned it.

[memnarch]

MM; what the heck is your avy supposed to be? It looks like a pile of flesh with a head.... :smallconfused:

[Mad Mask]

MM; what the heck is your avy supposed to be? It looks like a pile of flesh with a head.... :smallconfused:

It's a lemure (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/alumni_lemure_3.jpg).

[T-O-E]

Oh, I've developed a new art style. Again...

[X2]

http://www.kinogo.com/victor/rkill10.png

I blame myself...

[Fawkes]

Because it is impolite to call a man a whore. The correct term is Jigalo. That probably isn't how you spell it, but whatever.

I'd say it's pretty impolite to call a woman a whore as well. You chauvinist pig.


Clarke's third law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke's_three_laws); ever hear of it? (wikipedia link)

If I wasn't basically a lurker now, I'd have brought that up myself. :smalltongue:

[Emperor Ing]

The question of the century: Why is Mad Mask a Lemure? :smalltongue:

[CrimsonAngel]

Oh, I've developed a new art style. Again...

Cool, let's see it.


I blame myself...

I blame you to.

[X2]

I blame you to.

Whose side are you on!!??

Microphone! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djHCi3QzT_k)

[SinisterPenguin]

So...can we expect a TJH/FFF comic from anybody any time soon?

[X2]

So...can we expect a TJH/FFF comic from anybody any time soon?

Not from me... for blobvious reasons.

But if Sinister would do a comic of the link in the previous post with X2 taking the role of Andy Shaw (and Brain as the other guy?) that'd be swell.

[Calamity]

My sucky FI character thing:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b249/Photouser_/CalFI.png

Ah well, maybe I'll have a stroke of inspiration or something before FI starts to improve it.

[SinisterPenguin]

Not from me... for blobvious reasons.

But if Sinister would do a comic of the link in the previous post with X2 taking the role of Andy Shaw (and Brain as the other guy?) that'd be swell.

Sure, I'll see what I can do.

You do mean a non-canon comic, right? Unless I'm missing something and Xartvye suddenly became a reporter.

[X2]

Sure, I'll see what I can do.

You do mean a non-canon comic, right? Unless I'm missing something and Xartvye suddenly became a reporter.

Of course non-canon... Also replace the names.

Microphone!!!

[Lemming]

My sucky FI character thing:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b249/Photouser_/CalFI.png

Ah well, maybe I'll have a stroke of inspiration or something before FI starts to improve it.
Sunglasses and skin tight leather. Improves everything. :smalltongue:

[The Gremlin]

The question of the century: Why is Mad Mask a Lemure? :smalltongue:

Duh. Lemures are created by petitioners in hell, who are tortured horribly until their bodies are eventually dissolved in a pile of liquified flesh, while their minds are utterly destroyed.
In an alternate text, they are devils who died/got in trouble.
/\ Don't forget scars!
Also, anybody seen the new Star Trek movie? I haven't, but it lacks tribbles. Ergo, it sucks. :smallmad:

[Green-Shirt Q]

Also, anybody seen the new Star Trek movie? I haven't, but it lacks tribbles. Ergo, it sucks. :smallmad:

I have. I thought it was okay except for the random Ewok. And lack of Q or tribbles.

[CrimsonAngel]

I have no idea what you people are talking about. :D

[Green-Shirt Q]

I have no idea what you people are talking about. :D

I only have a vauge knowledge and little care about what everybody else is talking about, but I'm talking about the new Star Trek movie and the Ewok that followed Scotty around. :smallyuk:

[X2]

Duh. Lemures are created by petitioners in hell, who are tortured horribly until their bodies are eventually dissolved in a pile of liquified flesh, while their minds are utterly destroyed.
In an alternate text, they are devils who died/got in trouble.
/\ Don't forget scars!
Also, anybody seen the new Star Trek movie? I haven't, but it lacks tribbles. Ergo, it sucks. :smallmad:

I have. Its good, but not as good as All Good Things... Microphone!!!

[Lyinginbedmon]

I'm a couple hours late it seems, but the Sovices do not use magic.

They can learn to mimic magic after enough exposure to specific spells, but they don't have the Incarnum to use magic naturally. The exception to this rule is Maeter.

[Mad Mask]

Ah, okay.

Are you going to make a Fat Fish Fury comic any time soon ?

[Lemming]

I'm a couple hours late it seems, but the Sovices do not use magic.

They can learn to mimic magic after enough exposure to specific spells, but they don't have the Incarnum to use magic naturally. The exception to this rule is Maeter.
*GASP!*
Does that mean something Mad Mask said was wrong?? HORRORS! :smallwink:

Anyway, I liked Star Trek. You just have to ignore the Ewok and it's fine. Tribbles, well, nothing's perfect. :smallfrown:

[The Gremlin]

*GASP!*
Does that mean something Mad Mask said was wrong?? HORRORS! :smallwink:

Anyway, I liked Star Trek. You just have to ignore the Ewok and it's fine. Tribbles, well, nothing's perfect. :smallfrown:

Hang on, Lucas didn't sue them for the Ewok? :smalleek:
Also: Man, people really get down on MM. Don't take it personally, Mad Mask.
I think it's that condescending tone and tendency to take offense at certain insults/comments. Similar to my argumentativeness.:smallamused::smalltongue:

[Lemming]

Also: Man, people really get down on MM. Don't take it personally, Mad Mask.
I think it's that condescending tone and tendency to take offense at certain insults/comments. Similar to my argumentativeness.:smallamused::smalltongue:
Seconded. You're a nice kid as long as you don't take the high road and ignore other people's arguments. Which you might not do intentionally, but thats the vibe I get from you sometimes. :smallsmile:
...Huh. That didn't get the tone I was hoping for. :smallannoyed:
Oh well. :smallbiggrin:

[The Gremlin]

Seconded. You're a nice kid as long as you don't take the high road and ignore other people's arguments. Which you might not do intentionally, but thats the vibe I get from you sometimes. :smallsmile:
...Huh. That didn't get the tone I was hoping for. :smallannoyed:
Oh well. :smallbiggrin:

:smalleek:
I do? Sorry, sometimes the arguments get lost in the flood. It's hard to reply to everything. I'm a busy man, I have tons of comics due!
...which I don't draw. Huh. :smallconfused::smallwink:

[Lemming]

:smalleek:
I do? Sorry, sometimes the arguments get lost in the flood. It's hard to reply to everything. I'm a busy man, I have tons of comics due!
...which I don't draw. Huh. :smallconfused::smallwink:
I meant MM! XD
You just get grouchy sometimes. :smalltongue:

[X2]

Non-canon, as requested by Xartvye.

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu320/SinisterPenguin/andyshawcomic.png

Yes!!!! Awesome, just awesome!!

[SinisterPenguin]

Yes!!!! Awesome, just awesome!!

Why thank you. :smallsmile:

[Fawkes]

It wasn't an Ewok, it was an Ugnaught!

[Mina Kobold]

Guys, stop speaking about what you hate in the Star Trek movie, I haven't seen it yet:smallannoyed: (it's also made as a new begining, so all the previous Star Trek stuff has nothing to do with it)

Also; Science fiction require it to be future (doesn't matter how much but games like Resistance who seem scifi ain't cause it happens in the fifties) according to my teacher (we have to learn about basicly every genre in existance FYI) so none of this is science fiction (though it might have elements from scifiit just aint because of that)

Now for the other stuff:

@Maddy: I think the new avatar is nice:smallsmile:

@Crim: I personally don't think your characters look like whores but you should still have them wear something more (the one in green look like it belongs as a belly dancer for the sultan or something, and that's basicly a whore too FYI) but your art is good so I don't really mind:smallbiggrin:

[Ninja Chocobo]

Also; Science fiction require it to be future (doesn't matter how much but games like Resistance who seem scifi ain't cause it happens in the fifties)

Whaaaaaaaat?
Look at gorram Star Wars. It's like the first line in the movie. A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.

[Nameless]

I'd say the Sovices definitely would come under the category of Sci-fi. And since they have a big role in FI... I'd say Nameless is right in it being sci-fi ish.

Yay I'm right! *dances*

[Mina Kobold]

Whaaaaaaaat?
Look at gorram Star Wars. It's like the first line in the movie. A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.

I had the same reaction. Apparently Star Wars started a new genre or something (not something I have from school so ain't sure) possible the science fantasy one (magic and spaceship, YAY!)

[Emperor Ing]

Kaboom! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHgEnN2PFzo&feature=related) :smallbiggrin:

[Tiffanie Lirle]

Kaboom! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHgEnN2PFzo&feature=related) :smallbiggrin:

Decent, but not as funny asScout chop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7QIcxoJU4g) :smalltongue:

[T-O-E]

Decent, but not as funny asScout chop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7QIcxoJU4g) :smalltongue:

I disagree.

[Tiffanie Lirle]

I disagree.
I disagree with your disagreeing.

[T-O-E]

Well, I disagree with your...

Oh, forget it.

[Emperor Ing]

Heres what I think about your scout. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgXQw9I8Fic)

[Keris]

What the-?

I missed three pages and a discussion on what constitutes Science Fiction? That'll teach me to sleep...

Still, Fat Fish Fury: Not Sci-Fi.
Sorcerer Dude Strikes Back: Not Sci-Fi.
The Pluperfect Plot: Intended to be Sci-Fi, but isn't.
Future Imperfect: Not Sci-Fi.
The Journey Home: Not Sci-Fi.

Pretty much all of ABR falls under "Speculative Fiction", and most plots have Science Fantasy elements.

Oh, and NC? Star Wars ≠ Science Fiction. It's a Space Opera, and Spec-Fic.

[Ninja Chocobo]

Oh, and NC? Star Wars ≠ Science Fiction. It's a Space Opera, and Spec-Fic.

Holy hell. If you could split atoms like you split hairs you could power a country on fission energy.
It has robots and spaceships. That's not science fiction enough?

[Mad Mask]

What the-?

I missed three pages and a discussion on what constitutes Science Fiction? That'll teach me to sleep...

Still, Fat Fish Fury: Not Sci-Fi.
Sorcerer Dude Strikes Back: Not Sci-Fi.
The Pluperfect Plot: Intended to be Sci-Fi, but isn't.
Future Imperfect: Not Sci-Fi.
The Journey Home: Not Sci-Fi.

Pretty much all of ABR falls under "Speculative Fiction", and most plots have Science Fantasy elements.

Oh, and NC? Star Wars ≠ Science Fiction. It's a Space Opera, and Spec-Fic.

For the first time in a long time, I agree with you, Keris. :smallsmile:

^Star Wars has magic as the principal element of plot.

[Falgorn]

For the first time in a long time, I agree with you, Keris. :smallsmile:

Woah...you just made me smile. And that takes a lot. Make love not war! :smallbiggrin::smalltongue:

[Nameless]

What the-?

I missed three pages and a discussion on what constitutes Science Fiction? That'll teach me to sleep...

Still, Fat Fish Fury: Not Sci-Fi.
Sorcerer Dude Strikes Back: Not Sci-Fi.
The Pluperfect Plot: Intended to be Sci-Fi, but isn't.Future Imperfect: Not Sci-Fi.
The Journey Home: Not Sci-Fi.

Pretty much all of ABR falls under "Speculative Fiction", and most plots have Science Fantasy elements.

Oh, and NC? Star Wars ≠ Science Fiction. It's a Space Opera, and Spec-Fic.

It's set in a futuristic world with advanced science, robots and laser guns, it's a freaking sci-fi fantasy god damn it! :smalltongue:

[Mad Mask]

It's set in a futuristic world with advanced science, robots and laser guns, it's a freaking sci-fi fantasy. :smalltongue:

No, it's set in a fantastic world with demons, angels, magic and 5000 years old wizards wanting to bring the apocalypse. Definitely fantasy.

[Nameless]

No, it's set in a fantastic world with demons, angels, magic and 5000 years old wizards wanting to bring the apocalypse. Definitely fantasy.

Scie-fi fantacy. :smalltongue:

[-skimmer-]

You can say it's Fantasy because we have everything in it:smalltongue:

[Darklord Bright]

To deny the hyper-advanced technology already present from the Sovices... It's just silly. It may take place in a fantasy world, but it still has sci-fi elelments. As previously mentioned, the Pern series qualifies as Science-Fantasy and yet seems to have little to do with science, so a fantasy series with LOTS to do with technology MUST qualify.

[Mad Mask]

Scie-fi fantacy. :smalltongue:

It has no elements of science fiction other than the advanced technology.

No extraterrestrials, no spaceships, does not happen in the future, does not speculate on the future of science, could not happen in any way in reality, ergo: fantasy.

[Darklord Bright]

It has no elements of science fiction other than the advanced technology.

No extraterrestrials, no spaceships, does not happen in the future, does not speculate on the future of science, could not happen in any way in reality, ergo: fantasy.

Sci-Fi does not have to have all of those things. If I recall, there WERE spaceships in an FFF comic not long ago, they looked like giant whales. Some sci-fis don't even have space travel.

Edit: That being said, I do not believe it is a purebred of either genre.

[-skimmer-]

There was also Vendetta and Q had some battleship too...

[Keris]

Holy hell. If you could split atoms like you split hairs you could power a country on fission energy.
It has robots and spaceships. That's not science fiction enough?

Yeah, I probably could. But I'm not Dr. Manhatten yet.
Star Wars has WWII dogfights, storylines ripped straight from Arthurian legends, swordfighting, and magic. It's not Science Fiction, there is no solid grounding in science anywhere in the series.


It's set in a futuristic world with advanced science, robots and laser guns, it's a freaking sci-fi fantasy god damn it! :smalltongue:

It was intended to be Sci-Fi, but dragons, vampires and mages turned up in the first few comics, so the Sci-Fi part went out the window.


Sci-Fi does not have to have all of those things. If I recall, there WERE spaceships in an FFF comic not long ago, they looked like giant whales. Some sci-fis don't even have space travel.

Nameless and MM were commenting on P3, which hasn't featured spaceships yet. It's assumed they're there, Fort Longcat was built in that era for example, but we haven't shown any in comic.

I should make a P3 comic one of these days. I have the opportunity while we're waiting on Lying to make a FFF one.

[Mad Mask]

Sci-Fi does not have to have all of those things. If I recall, there WERE spaceships in an FFF comic not long ago, they looked like giant whales. Some sci-fis don't even have space travel.

Edit: That being said, I do not believe it is a purebred of either genre.

Fantasy has magic. Science fiction has science and no magic (it could possibly happen in the real future).

ABR has magic, ergo it is fantasy.

[Darklord Bright]

Nameless and MM were commenting on P3, which hasn't featured spaceships yet. It's assumed they're there, Fort Longcat was built in that era for example, but we haven't shown any in comic.

Ah, I see. I misunderstood. Still, I'm looking for the comic I was referencing to be sure I actually saw it. It was either MMs or Lying's.