Nudist Character

[Enochi]

I call this build the Streaker due to that fact the character never uses armor and equipment or even spells. She can run into every fight butt naked and kick ass.

Monk 1 Overwhelming Assault/Fighter 2/Forsaker 3/Barb 1 Lion spirit/Fist of the Forest 1/Weretouched Master 5/Fist of Forest +2/Warshaper 4/Something 1

Race: Shifter Razorclaw

Feats:
1: Power attack (Monk)
Lightning Reflexes (Flaw)
Sacred Vow (Flaw)
Vow of Poverty
Nymph's Kiss (Exalted)
2: Iron Will (Fighter)
Touch of Golden Ice (Exalted)
3: Great Fortitude (Fighter)
Healing Factor
4: Gift of Faith (Exalted)
6: Superior Unarmed Strike
Sanctify Natural Attack (Exalted)
8: Knight of the Stars (Exalted)
Improved Natural Attack (Weretouched Master)
9: Extra Rage
10: Shifter Savagery (Weretouched Master)
Nimbus of Light (Exalted)
12: Beast Claws
Holy Radiance (Exalted)
14: Righteous Rage (Exalted)
15: Snap Kick
16: Exalted Spell resistance (Exalted)
18: Weapon Focus Unarmed
Sanctify Martial Strike (Exalted)
20: Animal Friend (Exalted)

You have a Good character deeply in touch with nature who doesnt use much of anything really.

She gets Dex+Wis+Conx2 to AC plus VOP bonuses. A +24 Str, +16 Con, +2 dex and 3 size damage increases when raging and Shifting which she can do 3 times a day plus her claw damage to unarmed strikes. Fast healing 2. Base saves of Fort 21 Reflex 11 Will 8. Reach of a Large creature. Immunity to crits. Spell resistance 17. Full attack on charge. 8 attacks on a full attack. Unarmed Damage of a lvl 16 monk

Backstory: Mary Sue is a shifter who was lost in the woods as a young child an surprisingly adapted quite well. Later found by a wandering Guardian of Green Mary recoved much of her forgotten humanity but due to her many formative years out of society doesnt understand the need for many things such as clothes. She prefers to live out in the wild gladly helping any who become lost ot threatened in her teritory. Her sudden appearances to aid have earned the the nickname "The Angel of the forest". More then few young shifters have gone hunting though the woods to catch a glimpse of the immodest damsel but few have found her. She is on good terms with the local Nymph's and Dyrads who report to her the goings on of the land.

[Berserk Monk]

Yeah, there's an easier way. It's called vow of poverty. At level 4, you can exist in -50 to 140 degree temperatures without taking any harm from the environment. I made a gnome druid with this feat and he walked around nude 'cept for a ribbon tied around his, well, trouser titan.

[Zeful]

Yeah, there's an easier way. It's called vow of poverty. At level 4, you can exist in -50 to 140 degree temperatures without taking any harm from the environment. I made a gnome druid with this feat and he walked around nude 'cept for a ribbon tied around his, well, trouser titan.

Did he win first prize for something?

[Sstoopidtallkid]

There's a Homebrew Vow of Nudity feat floating around here. Worth a mention, if your DM accepts Homebrew.

[Tempest Fennac]

http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Skyclad_Warrior_%28DnD_Feat%29 could help. I'll try to find Tayla's Vow of Nudity feat now.

EDIT: Here it is: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45529 .

[elliott20]

I once had a paladin who was a paladin of a Goddess whose aspects where fertility, love, nurture, etc. One of the tenets that came up was the ability to dance nude on certain full moons. Yes, I know, really really silly sounding. But still, it somehow worked there.

anyway, one of the times when I was doing my err... ritualistic streaking, I was besieged by a bunch of rogues who want to take revenge on me.

thank god for Divine Might, smite evils and my CHA bonus, I was able to punch all of them into unconsciousness. I also smote one of them with a rock I picked up and threw at him. (the rock, incidentally, later become something I just kept with me and it eventually got the moniker "perfect skipping stone", which the GM, just for ****s and giggles, called it a masterwork rock)

[Heliomance]

Yeah, there's an easier way. It's called vow of poverty. At level 4, you can exist in -50 to 140 degree temperatures without taking any harm from the environment. I made a gnome druid with this feat and he walked around nude 'cept for a ribbon tied around his, well, trouser titan.

Uh, did you read the build? VoP is in there.

[Weimann]

I like the idea. It could open for interesting situations. Of course, such a girl (or boy) would likely be a bit of a ditz when it comes to stuff like cities and normal social interaction, but all the funnier.

I also definately like that you've made it work in combat as well.

The only problem might be to convince him/her to join an aventuring party. Why would she want to leave her forest?

[Gaiyamato]

You could add steadfast determination to increase that will save.
But yeah very cool. :)

[MickJay]

Isn't there an inherent problem with having VoP and being a Forsaker? To destroy items, Forsaker has to first get his hands on them, and the Vow forbids him from doing that.

[Roderick_BR]

Isn't there an inherent problem with having VoP and being a Forsaker? To destroy items, Forsaker has to first get his hands on them, and the Vow forbids him from doing that.

Not exactly. You just can't keep them. If you just defeat an enemy and destroy it's itens right away, you are in the clear. You just can't carry some rings and daggers to destroy every week to rechard your powers.
Although, since you technically is not using them, you could still carry them.
However, if you do keep itens to destroy them, to recharge your powers, you are using it.
So, just defeat bad guy, destroy itens, walk away.

[InaVegt]

Not exactly. You just can't keep them. If you just defeat an enemy and destroy it's itens right away, you are in the clear. You just can't carry some rings and daggers to destroy every week to rechard your powers.
Although, since you technically is not using them, you could still carry them.
However, if you do keep itens to destroy them, to recharge your powers, you are using it.
So, just defeat bad guy, destroy itens, walk away.

False.

Vow of Poverty explicitly states that the VoP'd character's share has to go to charity.

[Talya]

I'll try to find Tayla's Vow of Nudity feat now.

EDIT: Here it is: [url]http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45529 .

Or look at my signature!

[Volkov]

Being Female and nude would force a dc 40 will saving throw against a gaze attack for male humanoids, dc 25 for male giants, dc 20 for celestials, dc 35 for fiends, and dc 30 for male true dragons.

[Enochi]

To answer a couple of questions

Couple of Reasons for leaving the forest.

1. If after she saves an adventuring group they asked her to help them with a quest she would be more then happy too.

2. If goblin or the like burned down her forest. She would gladly team up with anyone going after them.

Their is a bit of confusion on the VoP forsaker issue. Forsakers dislike magic as such do not use it. However the only ability of theirs tied to the destruction of magic is their damage reduction. This is neatly covered by VoP damage reduction.

[Volkov]

How old is she? If she's middle aged or older i'd say that force a save against blindness.

[Lycanthromancer]

Being Female and nude would force a dc 40 will saving throw against a gaze attack for male humanoids, dc 25 for male giants, dc 20 for celestials, dc 35 for fiends, and dc 30 for male true dragons.

Not against ~10% of the male population, it wouldn't.

[Tom Foolery]

Not against ~10% of the male population, it wouldn't.

But would require about ~10% of the female populations to roll a saving throw....

[Sstoopidtallkid]

Not against ~10% of the male population, it wouldn't.
But would require about ~10% of the female populations to roll a saving throw.... One of you is forgetting bisexuals.

Also, I have to point out that, while yes, it would be slightly distracting, I doubt it would actually cause anything more than shaken for most people. It's something awesome, but not worth dying to watch.

[Heliomance]

Yeah, you really want to look at the Mongoose book Nymphology - Blue Magic. It's what the Book of Erotic Fantasy wishes it was. It's also utterly hilarious. In a good way, as opposed to the So Bad It's Good of the BoEF.

[Sstoopidtallkid]

Yeah, you really want to look at the Mongoose book Nymphology - Blue Magic. It's what the Book of Erotic Fantasy wishes it was. It's also utterly hilarious. In a good way, as opposed to the So Bad It's Good of the BoEF.I object to that. Yes, the artwork in the BoEF is terrible, but the fluff is mostly good, and a good chunk of the crunch is acceptable. There's some issues(Metaphysical Spellshaper), but things like the Voyeristic Seer are perfectly reasonable in power level.

[Heliomance]

Yes, but the BoEF doesn't have Power Word: Orgasm. Or Prismatic Chastity Belt.

[Sstoopidtallkid]

Yes, but the BoEF doesn't have Power Word: Orgasm.Orgasmic Vibrations, Sorc/Wiz 4, Mind affecting, Will negates, 1 round/level. Target counts as Dazed for the duration, Conc check to cast, few other things.

Not sure about the other, though. Sounds scary.

[Heliomance]

Power Word: Orgasm, Sor/Wiz 7, no save, Conjuration (Creation), creature with Con score <10 stunned for 3d6 rounds, 10<=Con score<20 stunned for 2d6 rounds, Con score >=20 stunned for 1d6 rounds. Being hit or harmed immediately ends the effect. Besides, haviong it as a power word is just cooler.

As for Prismatic Chastity Belt, it's exactly what it sounds like. Attempting to have sex with someone under the effects of the spell will subject your pride and joy to the full effects of Prismatic Wall.

[Berserk Monk]

Uh, did you read the build? VoP is in there.

I'm Berserk Monk, half monk, half barbarian, do you think reading is at the top of my list of things I do?

[Chronos]

Being Female and nude would force a dc 40 will saving throw against a gaze attack for male humanoids, dc 25 for male giants, dc 20 for celestials, dc 35 for fiends, and dc 30 for male true dragons.Y'know, I'm a heterosexual male, and I sure as heck don't have a +20 Will save, but if a hot naked chick were trying to kill me, I'm reasonably certain that I would still be fully capable of fighting back. It's not like it's hard to find opportunities to see naked ladies, you know.

[Rutskarn]

Y'know, I'm a heterosexual male, and I sure as heck don't have a +20 Will save, but if a hot naked chick were trying to kill me, I'm reasonably certain that I would still be fully capable of fighting back. It's not like it's hard to find opportunities to see naked ladies, you know.

You know, call me overdefensive of my gender (especially considering that it was a joke), but this.

In that situation, I'd probably just try to ignore it and concentrate on making the thing attack me be not breathing anymore.

[monty]

Y'know, I'm a heterosexual male, and I sure as heck don't have a +20 Will save, but if a hot naked chick were trying to kill me, I'm reasonably certain that I would still be fully capable of fighting back. It's not like it's hard to find opportunities to see naked ladies, you know.

I think free porn provides a massive bonus to the save.

[Sstoopidtallkid]

You know, call me overdefensive of my gender (especially considering that it was a joke), but this.

In that situation, I'd probably just try to ignore it and concentrate on making the thing attack me be not breathing anymore.+1. Plenty of time to enjoy it after she's dead. ;)

[Rutskarn]

+1. Plenty of time to enjoy it after she's dead. ;)

Hey! Incredibly creepy jokes are my bailiwick, pal!

[DownwardSpiral]

Monk 1 Overwhelming Assault/Fighter 2/Forsaker 3/Barb 1 Lion spirit/Fist of the Forest 1/Weretouched Master 5/Fist of Forest +2/Warshaper 4/Something 1


Alright, now just double checking, but barbs must be chaotic, and monks must be lawful. That overwhelming assault thing is something I haven't heard of before, but just making sure. =D




She gets Dex+Wis+Conx2 to AC plus VOP bonuses. A +24 Str, +16 Con, +2 dex and 3 size damage increases when raging and Shifting which she can do 3 times a day plus her claw damage to unarmed strikes. Fast healing 2. Base saves of Fort 21 Reflex 11 Will 8. Reach of a Large creature. Immunity to crits. Spell resistance 17. Full attack on charge. 8 attacks on a full attack. Unarmed Damage of a lvl 16 monk


Most of that sounds pretty good, but having a will save of 8 is sort of worrisome. Also, any fullcaster should be able to puncture a spell resistance of 17.

Other than that, this, is how monks SHOULD be.

[Zeful]

If there were going to be a save vs. nudity it'd be something like DC 5+cha mod+preferential physical stat mod. After all not everyone finds the same things beautiful.

[elliott20]

great, so now we have to actually write down NPC sexual preferences too? ugh...

and what about people with just really odd fetishes? I mean, rule 34 and all that.

[Saintheart]

This thread gets me to thinking: is Britney Spears merely a bard who's taken Words of Creation, Vow of Poverty, and gone for the Apostle of Peace PrC, and then has gone for the nudity option as discussed?

(Especially now Daddy's got control over all of her affairs...)

[Hawriel]

Why not just use GURPS naked rules?

[Tempest Fennac]

To be honest, I'm in the same boat as Rtutskarn and Chronis as far as thinking the will save element makes no sense (I'm pretty asexual anyway, but I honestly doubt I'd find someone who was trying to kill me attractive just because they weren't wearing any clothing).

[elliott20]

or for that matter, that nudity automatically means sexual imagery. I mean, we see animals naked all the time, but you don't think we.... oh you people are just sick!

[hewhosaysfish]

Why not just use GURPS naked rules?

"GURPS: Naked"?
That one very specific sourcebook. :smalltongue:

[Volkov]

Also beware of white dragons, they almost always give in to their carnal urges.

[Tsotha-lanti]

Not against ~10% of the male population, it wouldn't.

Or, you know, men who are no longer teenagers. Some of us can actually deal with nudity without doubling over to hide our crotch and blushing so hard we bleed like the vampire in Let the Right One In.


How old is she? If she's middle aged or older i'd say that force a save against blindness.

I know some cultures have serious issues with nude bodies, but come on. That's just pathetic and disgustingly superficial and ageist. Have some class.


"GURPS: Naked"?
That one very specific sourcebook. :smalltongue:

Hawriel probably referred to the GURPS Compendium 2 optional rule (for cinematic/silly campaigns) that gives you a bonus to Passive Defense depending on how little you have on.

[Chronos]

This thread gets me to thinking: is Britney Spears merely a bard who's taken Words of Creation, Vow of Poverty, and gone for the Apostle of Peace PrC, and then has gone for the nudity option as discussed?Do you seriously think Britney Spears is exalted? I'm not even convinced she's good-aligned.

[Sstoopidtallkid]

Do you seriously think Britney Spears is exalted? I'm not even convinced she's good-aligned.I'm not even convinced she's humanoid, let alone that she has ranks in Perform.

[Volkov]

Or, you know, men who are no longer teenagers. Some of us can actually deal with nudity without doubling over to hide our crotch and blushing so hard we bleed like the vampire in Let the Right One In.



I know some cultures have serious issues with nude bodies, but come on. That's just pathetic and disgustingly superficial and ageist. Have some class.





Most middle aged people are kind of ugly. Age hurts your beauty.

[Tsotha-lanti]

Most middle aged people are kind of ugly. Age hurts your beauty.

Yes, because not only is beauty objective, it's objectively what you think is beautiful.

[Heliomance]

Most middle aged people are kind of ugly. Age hurts your beauty.
Not true. Everyone know as you get older, your CHA increases!

[Quietus]

Not true. Everyone know as you get older, your CHA increases!

That's entirely a function of gravity-propelled stretching. :smallbiggrin:

[Volkov]

Not true. Everyone know as you get older, your CHA increases!

Charisma is not as linked to beauty as it was in first edition.

[Weimann]

None the less, in battle you should have other things to think about than a piece of butt. If the class was magical, you might justify something similar as an effect, but really: could you imagine a tough, battle hardened warrior getting distracted by some nude flesh?

It MIGHT be applicable to people of low age categories, but with any kind of battle training, they should easily be able to focus on the fact that the naked guy going for your throat (in a bad way).

I am generally against "natural" charm as a part of combat, because it's just not credible.

Edit: To clarify, I'm against two people with no romantic history behind them using nudity, good looks, lewd behaviour or similar to influence battle. I'm not against relationships having a role; one would, of course, be faced with emotions if it turned out the girl your former girlfriend is now hired to assassinate you. Also, magically influenced charm is of course credible, but I gather that this class is non-magical by nature.

[Tengu_temp]

A bit offtopic, but I was wondering recently - what is the IC explanation for Talya's Vow of Nudity? All other Exalted Vows are connected to some virtuous ideal that helps others, such as donating all your wealth to charity instead of using it for yourself, or never taking a life. But what's virtuous about nudity?

[Totally Guy]

Ever had any experience with naked players? Our group got quite close with what we now know as the duct tape incident. Noting was really on display, just thick opaque duct tape.

Edit: Virtuous about nudity? I think it's a symbol of trust.

[Sstoopidtallkid]

A bit offtopic, but I was wondering recently - what is the IC explanation for Talya's Vow of Nudity? All other Exalted Vows are connected to some virtuous ideal that helps others, such as donating all your wealth to charity instead of using it for yourself, or never taking a life. But what's virtuous about nudity?Actually, they aren't. Vow of Obedience and similar are not about doing something intrinsically good but about furthering the agenda of a good deity(generally one with a Christian morality). Talya just furthers the agenda of Sune instead.

[Nerd-o-rama]

Not true. Everyone know as you get older, your CHA increases!Delicious cougars.

I mean, wait, what? What thread am I in?

[shadzar]

Nudity is without shame. Is shame virtuous?

[Tsotha-lanti]

A bit offtopic, but I was wondering recently - what is the IC explanation for Talya's Vow of Nudity? All other Exalted Vows are connected to some virtuous ideal that helps others, such as donating all your wealth to charity instead of using it for yourself, or never taking a life. But what's virtuous about nudity?

I'm pretty sure it was mostly a joke, but Sune, a CG deity (I think the Vow was made for a worshipper of Sune, too) is big on beauty. Truth is beauty, beauty is truth - all that. And Sune's not about some specific standard of beauty, but the idea that everyone can be beautiful, and that only Evil is truly ugly. That's getting there. So, showing off your natural beauty (whether you're comely or plain) is a virtuous thing...

And so on. It's easy enough to come up with credos that would back the Vow up.

[DragoonWraith]

I'm pretty sure it was mostly a joke, but Sune, a CG deity (I think the Vow was made for a worshipper of Sune, too) is big on beauty. Truth is beauty, beauty is truth - all that. And Sune's not about some specific standard of beauty, but the idea that everyone can be beautiful, and that only Evil is truly ugly. That's getting there. So, showing off your natural beauty (whether you're comely or plain) is a virtuous thing...

And so on. It's easy enough to come up with credos that would back the Vow up.
Could explain the Will save thing: Sune lets your true beauty be shown to even the most hardened and blase warriors, something that is difficult to ignore.

[raptor1056]

I think a "WTF" based will save, with a very low DC, would be appropriate. Not many people are expecting to get jumped by a naked chick, and that's going to influence combat, priapistic difficulties notwithstanding.

[elliott20]

Sune should go on Oprah and Dr. Phil.

[Tsotha-lanti]

Could explain the Will save thing: Sune lets your true beauty be shown to even the most hardened and blase warriors, something that is difficult to ignore.

Well, yeah, if it's an actual supernatural nymph effect (didn't they have to get nude to blind you in AD&D?), I can dig that. In fact, that's practically a trope, and doesn't require nudity at all; the divinely beautiful person who can "flame on" hir "true beauty" and dazzle everybody.

You've infiltrated the evil king's court, and make your way toward the throne. The vizier spots you, and the guards converge on you through the crowd. You stand straight, cast off your cloak, and reveal yourself to everyone - the guards drop their weapons, and the courtiers fall on your knees, tears in their eyes. The evil king himself presses a hand to his trembling heart, feeling ashamed of what he has done...

It passes the "this is mythically awesome" test.

[Asbestos]

But would require about ~10% of the female populations to roll a saving throw....

Nope, much less actually. It is apparently not an equal ratio.



Anyway, has anyone thought that this character is a shifter and well... they're a bit 'earthy' to put it mildly. Throw in that they're basically a super-hippy and, yeah, I think I'll look away.

[Enochi]

I have found all the feed back on this particular thread most amusing

[Emy]

So... how does this character deal with enemies that can fly?

Specifically, a level 5 wizard enemy could cast Fly and Wind Wall, and be completely immune to The Nudist, as far as I can tell.

[Enochi]

Wild empathy check to get a giant eagle or hippogriph to fly her up there. Or streching the rules a bit using the warshaper's ability to grow natural weapon to grow wings.

[Totally Guy]

"Step one of the plan is as such: I enter the kings court with cloak on and my sling concealed.
Step two, I walk right into the middle of the court defiantly.
Step three, I cast off my cloak exposing my nakedness. In the distraction I sneak attack the King!"

:roy:"But what about the female guards? They won't be distracted and I know the king has a whole elite squadron."

"But! They still need to roll a save and while they're all busy rolling that's when I get to sneak attack the king. Seriously it's like the time I grappled the guy and slit his throat before he could figure out what the rules were!"

[Blue Warlock]

Or, you know, men who are no longer teenagers. Some of us can actually deal with nudity without doubling over to hide our crotch and blushing so hard we bleed like the vampire in Let the Right One In.



I know some cultures have serious issues with nude bodies, but come on. That's just pathetic and disgustingly superficial and ageist. Have some class.




Don't you find this a little contradictory? I mean,you know, making sweeping generalizations about teenagers and then calling someone ageist?

CHANGING TOPIC: Cool build, always liked the idea of a character doing well on his own without equipment but I didn't think you could go this far with it by optimizing.

[Enochi]

Can anyone think of anything to add? I plan on running this character at sunday's campaign.