A Ring/item that offers Mind Blank, is there one?

[Brock Samson]

Where can it be found? And how much is it?

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

There's the Cowl of Warding in Magic of Faerun, it takes a head/hat spot. It gives constant Mind Blank and Freedom of Movement, and turns up to six levels of spells each day as though by Spell Turning, for 200,800 gp.

[Brock Samson]

Thanks again Biffoniacus_Furiou, you already know about the character I'm building. Does a Cowl take up the same slot as a Cloak? I'm thinking of getting a Starmantle Cloak.

And can you remind me what things can and cannot have a Wilding Clasp attached to them?

[Eloel]

It takes the crown/hat slot, not the cloak slot, so you can have a cloak too. Anything & everything can be wildling clasp'd

[Brock Samson]

Really? Even Rings can be Wilding Clasped?

And as Starmangle is only a 6th level Wizard slot, maybe I'll just save it as a spell instead of item, we'll see.

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

Starmantle has a costly material component, you'd probably be better off getting the cloak.

[Brock Samson]

Hm, well it's only 20 GP, nothing too terrible. But paying each time for the 1 minute/level spell, vs. the 132,000 for the Actual Cloak.

Oh, and apparently my starting wealth has been gimped to 760,000 GP, so I'm gonna have to start making tougher decisions.

[Fcannon]

There's also the third eye conceal (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/items/universalitems.htm#conceal), it only gives the constant mind blank and takes up the eyewear slot. 120,000.

[Draz74]

Any DM who allows the Starmantle Cloak should be fired, IMHO. (Oh, unless he allows it to stack with Evasion, too. Then he should be shot instead of fired. :smalltongue:)

But that's beside the point. Anyway ... another option is the Third Eye Conceal. It can be found in the XPH, the SRD, or the MIC. It costs 120k and effectively gives Mind Blank, and it occupies the face slot.

200800 is a fairly decent price, though, for Mind Blank/FoM/Spell Turning all in one item. I'm impressed, frankly.

Edit: ninja'd!

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

Hm, well it's only 20 GP, nothing too terrible. But paying each time for the 1 minute/level spell, vs. the 132,000 for the Actual Cloak.

Oh, and apparently my starting wealth has been gimped to 760,000 GP, so I'm gonna have to start making tougher decisions.

Item Familiar.

[Brock Samson]

What book/page is the Cowl in anywho?

[ChrisDemilich]

The Dungeon master's guide has a guide for creating magic items. It includes a chart used to determine base price of custom made magic items. MOST of the time, this chart actually screws you over, and ends up costing more then items listed elsewhere. But in the case of a ring or other item of Mind Blank, there is an exception.

Mind blank is an 8th level spell. To make an item with an 8th level spell, usable with a command word, the cost is Spell level * Caster Level * 1800gp + cost of item enchanted. You can reduce that by limiting the number of times per day you can use it. You divide the previous total by (5 divided by the number of uses per day). Since you only need to use it once per day(Mind blank has a 24 hour duration):

So, (8 * 20 * 1800) / (5/1) = 57600 + 1 gp for a simple ring.

Ring of Mind Blank
Usable once each day. Casts Mind Blank on the wearer.
costs 57601 GP. Strong Abjuration. Caster level 20th.

For 172801 gp, you could make it usable 3/day and buff two of your teammates too.

You can add a second power to an item by multiplying the highest costing power by 2.

For an extra 115200, you could add iron body usable once per day, for extra protection for 20 minutes.

If not, then how about an extra 115200 to make it a ring of protection +5, WITH Mind Blank usable once per day?
Deflection bonuses to AC cost Bonus Squared * 2000gp.
Other bonuses to AC cost Bonus Squared *2500gp.

So, a +5 luck bonus to AC would cost an extra 125000 gp.

Ring of amazing protection:
+5 Deflection bonus to AC, +5 Luck Bonus to AC.
1/day Mind Blank, Iron Body.
Cost 432601. Strong Abjuration, Caster Level 20.

Still enough leftover for a robe of the archmagi, and a nice staff. XP


Just some fun ideas.

[Rhiannon87]

There's a ring of mental fortitude in the DMGII. Costs 110,000, provides protection from all mental attacks.

There's also the totally awesome cortical armor in the FR: Underdark Book. Costs 146,650, but you get +1 to +3 halfweight fullplate with a permanent mind blank effect. One of my characters is currently saving up for it.

[Eldariel]

DMGII has Ring of Mental Fortitude, which gives you just that. 110000gp tho.

EDIT: Bahh'd.

[Brock Samson]

I may just have to take Mind Blank as one of my 8th level spells and cast it once a day. It'll still be gone if dispelled just once during the day, but at the moment that's a lot of moola for a character that's going to have a pretty amazing will-save as it is. Later on I may have to grab one though.

Oh, and I could extend it every other day in a 9th level slot, but that is a potential Shapechange or Time Stop gone for the day, what are your thoughts?

[tyckspoon]

Oh, and I could extend it every other day in a 9th level slot, but that is a potential Shapechange or Time Stop gone for the day, what are your thoughts?

Prep it normally and buy a Greater Rod of Extend?

[Brock Samson]

Possibly, that'd be 24,500, but I would still get 2 other uses a day out of it, plus 3 the next day, not a bad investment. What other high level spells would I went to extend though? Hm, time stop?

[ShneekeyTheLost]

Possibly, that'd be 24,500, but I would still get 2 other uses a day out of it, plus 3 the next day, not a bad investment. What other high level spells would I went to extend though? Hm, time stop?

Shapechange... Foresight...

[Brock Samson]

My character's 22nd level, +1 caster level ioun stone, +1 ring of arcane might, +4 bead of Karma, makes 28 caster level = 280 minutes for one casting, extended makes 560 minutes or 9 hrs, 20 minutes. So 3 castings a day for unlimited shapechange? HHHhhmmmm......

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

But you'll already have 24+ hours/day of Wild Shape, and Dire Tortoise form wins initiative. I'd just cast Mind Blank daily and call it good, it's not really worth such great expense to get an item that you can mimic with spells. One way around an unlucky dispel is to cast your 24+ hour buffs before you rest, then when you'll have them prepared all day long. If you get hit with a dispel, you just recast them all and shift casting your buffs to the morning after preparing spells until you can get a day of downtime.

[Brock Samson]

Simple, but geniously effective Biffoniacus_Furiou, thanks again.

[Talic]

Or just memorize 2 the next day, cast one when you wake up, and one before you go to bed.

[sofawall]

It takes the crown/hat slot, not the cloak slot, so you can have a cloak too. Anything & everything can be wildling clasp'd

Where does one find the wilding clasp?

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

Where does one find the wilding clasp?

Magic Item Compendium, or it's also in Masters of the Wild (3.0).

[Doc Roc]

I personally love the Third Eye, Conceal from MiC. It's a cool 120k though so... :)

[derfenrirwolv]

The downside to making the ring yourself as castable once per day is that it can be dispelled. If its a ring the most you can do is shut it down for a few rounds

[Harperfan7]

You can buy an item that gives you mind blank all day for 136,000gp.

[Doc Roc]

It should be mentioned that the utility of the Third Eye, Conceal in the MiC is slightly expanded such that rather than a strict mind-blank effect it has a slightly different shape to its clauses that is useful against some of the weirder divination attacks.