Arena Tournament, Round 55: Aramil The Second vs Rangore

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Arena Tournament, Round 55: Aramil The Second vs. Rangore

Map:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b30/Kyeudo/CloudArena.jpg


XP Award: 300 XP
GP Award: 300 GP

Aramil The Second (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=128602) - arkol
Rangore (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=127973) - Trodon13


All Combatants, please roll initiative and declare final purchases, if any

[arkol]

Just my "I'm around post". Gonna check my opponent sheet, see if I need something before we begin and obvisouly choose my spells for the round.

EDIT: Ok I see 3 feats, no fighter levels and only a flaw so either I'm missing something or my opponent has one feat too many or one flaw too little.
Also he is wearing medium armor and is not a dwarf so his speed should be 20 no?. Quick trait. Right.

And out of curiosity what bonus from the goliath race is he getting at ECL1? I supose he only gets powerfull build at lvl2 as I don't see it anywhere. What else? Thanks.

[chilepepper]

High Ref chilepepper

First of all, Arena Goliaths are with all the other +1 LA races in character creation rules. http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5942255&postcount=1

Secondly, I'm stumped on the feat, unless it's a class feature (free ewp?).

I'm not going to stop the match at this point. If he doesn't show, it's a moot point anyway. But, this will have to be resolved before you begin.

[arkol]

Oh. I missed that section with the la races. Nice.

*old man voice*
"Back in MY say we had to ASK the referes for a progression for those"
*old man voice out*

I'm gonna post my ini as soon as I decide on my spells. Probably tomorrow. But I presume I can change the spells if some significant change happens to the guy right?

[Mavian]

I know you used to have to ask... that's why we put them there :P We got tired of trying to remember what there were when people asked.

I think both his feats were supposed to be for flaws... but it look like he just didn't take one .

[Trodon]

ok i'm here what do i need to clarify? on the feat problem um... idk how that happened mind if i remove Improved Sunder so i can still use my hammer well?

[Trodon]

alright problem fixed btw here's my INI [roll0]

[arkol]

Thanks for the fast reply Trodon13. Good luck!

My ini:
[roll0]

[arkol]

Ok here we go!


Starting in square N2. Cast Mage Armor. Move SE 5 squares and E one square (now on S8).

rolls to try and identify him during his turn (if needed of course)
Listen[roll0]
Spot[roll1]

Effects on me:
Mage Armor 600 rounds remaining


Your turn!

EDIT: Changed my move because I had myself starting in the wrong starting zone. Pretty much the same move only mirrored

[Trodon]

Ravenok round 1

start at N25 double move to N13, goliath great hammer equipped

LOS?

end turn

stats
Rangore (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=127973)
M CE Goliath paladin of slaughter, Level 1, Init +0, HP 11/11, Speed 30ft
AC 14, Touch 10, Flat-footed 14, Fort +2, Ref +0, Will +0, Base Attack Bonus 1
Goliath Greathammer +6 (1d12+7, X4)
Scalemail (+4 Armor)
Abilities Str 20, Dex 10, Con 14, Int 10, Wis 10, Cha 10
Condition None

[we3kings]

Ravenok
No Line of sight

Aramil
No Line of sight

[arkol]

Question for the ref:


Did I HEAR him move somewhere?

[Psionic Dog]

High Ref PsiDog

Requested LoS Clarification

@Refs

Listen checks are important in places where LoS may not be easily established, double so when one combatant asks for a listen check. Unfortunately, they're also much more painful to perform. :smallannoyed:

Ok,

Rangore has a Move Silently modifier of -4.
He isn't attempting to move silently, so lets say he rolled a 5. (Some refs say a 1 was rolled when no stealth attempts are made, but we'll use 5 for consistency in this match)

At double movement that's -5 penalty, They are 45 ft apart, for +4 distance.
That's a DC 0 to hear Rangore.
Armil rolled a 15 to beat the check by 10.
"You hear approaching footsteps to the North East roughly 40 ft distant"


Aramil isn't that quiet eather, he spoke to cast a spell (DC 0) and also hustled for DC 5 + 3 -5 = DC 3.
However, at the start of his turn Rangore is over 110 feet away for +11 distance.
DC 11.
[roll0]
"You heard some movement and speech to the West"



Ravenok
No LoS.
For whatever it's worth you also heard some movement and speech of to the west.


Aramil
No LoS

You hear approaching footsteps to the North East roughly 40 ft distant give or take.

[arkol]

So.... is that a yes or no?

[Mavian]

@Arkol


That would be you heard stuff.

[arkol]

Yeah I know. But at first Psionic Dog only had a spoiler for refs and nothing for me so.... I was confused. Fixed one. Got a rules question but I'm gonna ask about it in the main thread.

[arkol]

Ok so here we go. Gonna try to Color Spay him even without knowing where he is exactly. He's probably in O13 or 14 so gonna try to get those 2 squares at least.

Move like this:
Start in S8 then to R9 Q10 P11 P12.
If I see him along this path I stop instead of continuing. If not I go till P12. If I see him, I'll decide what to do then. If I still don't see him there I cast color spray in a way that it occupies the following squares:

O13, O14, O15, N13, N14 and M13. If he is somewhere in there he must will save against a DC of 17.

Anyway, spot checks in case I need them along the way.
[roll0]
[roll1]

[Psionic Dog]

High Ref PsiDog

LoS Check

LoS Established when Aramil reaches R-9.
Rangore is in N-13.

Both combatants have concealment (but not total concealment) from the other.

Still Aramil's turn.

[arkol]

Aramil moves towards his enemy:

R9 Q10 P11 P12

and casts Color Spray on him. If it matters the following squares are being covered by the spell:
O13, O14, O15, N13, N14 and M13

Make a will save with dc 17 or fall uncoucious to the ground my friend.

[Trodon]

alright good game if i make this thats amazing [roll0]

[Trodon]

Roflmao!!!

[Trodon]

Ravenok round 2

move to N7 then charge to Q7 then attack [roll0]
damage [roll1]
crit conformation if needed [roll2]

end turn

stats
Rangore (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=127973)
M CE Goliath paladin of slaughter, Level 1, Init +0, HP 11/11, Speed 30ft
AC 14, Touch 10, Flat-footed 14, Fort +2, Ref +0, Will +0, Base Attack Bonus 1
Goliath Greathammer +6 (1d12+7, X4)
Scalemail (+4 Armor)
Abilities Str 20, Dex 10, Con 14, Int 10, Wis 10, Cha 10
Condition None

[arkol]

LOOOOOOOL

Your turn.

Ninja'ed.

Ok man piece of advice here. You see that ability Abrupt jaunt in my sheet? You know what that does? It allows me to teleport 10ft as an immediate action. That means I can teleport away from your attacks. Now as you see I can use it 5 times a day. But if I can see your rolls and know you don't hit me, then I don't need to actually use it.

So you should either roll in spoilers or say "I charge you. My path is this. Do you teleport away?"

Also, you can't move and then charge. You have to charge right away. But currently you don't have enough space between us to charge (10ft minimum). So I assume your action is actually a move and attack.

Gonna call for a ref just to make sure. Either way you're getting color sprayed again. If you save again I'm probably screwed :P

[Trodon]

Also, you can't move and then charge. You have to charge right away. But currently you don't have enough space between us to charge (10ft minimum). So I assume your action is actually a move and attack

omg i keep getting that mixed up with 4.0 i'm sorry

will save [roll0]

[Trodon]

lol another 20 i'm so lucky the dice gods want me to win :smalltongue:

[arkol]

Wtf... is this for real? Guess I'll have to get pretty creative to manage to win this match somehow.

Anyway I was waiting for a ref to come and tell us how to proced. I did say I was going to cast color spray but not how would I do it. If I just casted it without moving first I would provoke an aoo and that would be BAD.

I say we wait for a ref to check this match before going on.

[Trodon]

Wtf... is this for real? Guess I'll have to get pretty creative to manage to win this match somehow.

Anyway I was waiting for a ref to come and tell us how to proced. I did say I was going to cast color spray but not how would I do it. If I just casted it without moving first I would provoke an aoo and that would be BAD.

I say we wait for a ref to check this match before going on.

alright will do

[arkol]

While the refs don't check.... I think me winning this round, if that second save is allowed, is pretty much out of the picture. I have one spell that deals damage. But even if it crits and roll max damage on both it's not enough to kill you. And with -7 to hit with that scythe I'm not going anywhere near you. I only used it for coup de graces, which obviously are not happening anytime soon.


So this could de-rail into a very very boring catch me if you can match.

Damn should have bought a bow or crossbow or whatever.

[Trodon]

While the refs don't check.... I think me winning this round, if that second save is allowed, is pretty much out of the picture. I have one spell that deals damage. But even if it crits and roll max damage on both it's not enough to kill you. And with -7 to hit with that scythe I'm not going anywhere near you. I only used it for coup de graces, which obviously are not happening anytime soon.


So this could de-rail into a very very boring catch me if you can match.

Damn should have bought a bow or crossbow or whatever.

yeah, i'm fine with re-rolling the will save if the ref wants me to

[Psionic Dog]

*Yawn*
blink. blink.

High Ref PsiDog
What seems to be the question here?

[arkol]

Well if the roll stands I'm gonna take a few shots at you with the scythe anyway. I can still avoid a few attacks from you with the Jaunt trick, so I might as well pray for some 20's myself! :smallbiggrin:

[arkol]

Mr ref Psionic Dog.

My first inicial problem was that Trodon13 delcared an illegal charge. I assume that it would be changed to a normal move and attack, but with my past experience in the area I've learned not to assume anything. No offense.

Secondly I told my opponent I was going to Color Spray him, but as I was waiting for your call on the charge thing I didn't actually do so. Yet. But he rolled the save anyway. So not sure if that matters or not.

[Psionic Dog]

High Ref PsiDog

Ah, I see.

Correct the charge was invalid. This means Rangor would have to revise his action for that turn, prompting a match rewind to that point.

However, Arkol also listed an alternative action/assumption which Trodon13 appears to have passively accepted. I think.

When errors have been made the arena allows play to continue if both combatants agree to accept the error instance or agree to a legal retroactive alternative.

Do both combatants agree to abide by the change from charging to move attacking with the listed roll?

If yes, play continues as normal Aramil's turn, Round 3 that includes the agreed upon color spray and save as well as whatever movement Aramil deems need to complete that action.

If we have a 'nay' then play rewinds to the beginning of Rangor's turn, Round 2 with fresh rolls for all following attacks/saves/etc.

[arkol]

Sure with me.

What about the save?

[Trodon]

thats fine with me and i can go ether way on the save

[Psionic Dog]

High Ref PsiDog

Then, as the actions proceed, it is the ref opinion that the spell and save stand. Aramil committed to casting the spell and Ragnor preemptively rolled a save to save time as a failure would likely (but not certainly) spelled him doom. It matters not.

It is now Aramil's turn, round 3.
He may have committed to casting the spell as part of the turn, but all other actions such as movement still need to be declared.

[arkol]

Okidokie. I just need to know where he moved to exactly.

[Trodon]

ohw about Q8?

[arkol]

You can't attack me from there. I was in P12 when I casted.

[Trodon]

OH ok i forgot about you moving O12

[arkol]

Ok then. I take a 5ft step to Q13 and color spray you. You save. I use my remaining move action to draw my scythe.

Your turn.

[Trodon]

alright i move to p13 and attack [spoiler][roll0]
damage [roll1]
crit conformation if needed [roll2][spoiler]

Edit: um... wtf? it didn't spoiler

[arkol]

You forgot the / on the second tag.

EDIT: you realize that you could be using a dagger and roll minimum damage, as long as you hit I'm dead right? :smallbiggrin:

Can I teleport and go on with my turn?

[Trodon]

yeah go ahead sorry forgot that

[arkol]

I teleport to S13 to avoid your attack. Then on my turn I charge you!!!!

[roll0]

Riiiight. Your go.

[Trodon]

alright attack
attack:
[roll0]
damage [roll1]
crit conformation if needed [roll2]


Edit: end turn

[arkol]

I teleport to the same place and do the same thing again.

Boring!

[roll0]

Already used 2 teleports. Your turn.

[Trodon]

alright then attack
attack:
[roll0]
damage [roll1]
crit conformation if needed [roll2]

end turn

how many time have you teleported?

[arkol]

Gonna teleport for the third time.....r giht... about.... NOW! DODGE!!!

Same old routine.

[roll0]

[Trodon]

alright then attack
[roll0]
damage [roll1]
crit conformation if needed [roll2]

end turn

[arkol]

Teleport for the forth time, charge and swing:

[roll0]

[Trodon]

attack

[roll0]
damage [roll1]
crit conformation if needed [roll2]

end turn

[arkol]

Well... I could teleport into the midle of the mist and basically play cat and mouse but that would be tedious and boring.

This time I teleport nack and move to P14 and attack. That means I'm out of teleports but now have 20% miss chance. Don't forget to roll that.

[roll0]

[Trodon]

alright attack
[roll0]
damage [roll1]
crit conformation if needed [roll2]
miss chance 1-20 is a miss [roll3]

end turn

[arkol]

Me = dead.

Congratulations.

2 20s in a row you lucky bastard. I hope I catch you somewhere along this round to get my revenge!

[Trodon]

Me = dead.

Congratulations.

2 20s in a row you lucky bastard. I hope I catch you somewhere along this round to get my revenge!

yeah thanks good game and i nearly died laughing when i saw that second 20

[Mavian]

High Ref Mav:

Rangore wins and gets the loot.