The Weekly Life In Simon's Basement - An OotS Style Comic

[Salty]

To summarize the premise of my comic briefly, it is the humorous misadventures of a group of teenagers trying to play a campaign of D&D.

This comic can be found on my Deviantart page (http://1337salty.deviantart.com/), and its own site (http://wlisb.thecomicseries.com/) (sort of), but I will also post links to the direct images. I would advise reading through it via the site, mainly because it would be easier to navigate through the comics. I leave the decision up to you, however.

The Weekly Life In Simon's Basement

Latest Comic
41: Stumpy Sure Does Suck (http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/267/e/8/stumpy_sure_does_suck___oots_by_1337salty-d6nqnoq.png)

Archive

1: It Builds Character (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/2/a/it_builds_character___oots_by_1337salty-d69s8kc.png)
2: Roleplaying Challenged (http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/170/2/6/role_playing_challenged___oots_by_1337salty-d22aro8.png)
3: PCAD: PC Attention Deficit (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/0/a/pcad__pc_attention_deficit_by_1337salty-d233xyd.png)
4: Pronunciation Troubles (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/170/b/e/pronunciation_troubles___oots_by_1337salty-d23brfx.png)
5: Random Encounter (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/6/e/random_encounter___oots_by_1337salty-d2clbot.png)
6: BarQuest (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/b/f/barquest___oots_by_1337salty-d2e5ecj.png)
7: Simon, Assaulted (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/e/3/simon__assaulted___oots_by_1337salty-d2fdyg9.png)
8: Wesley's Intervention (http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/1/3/wesley_s_intervention___oots_by_1337salty-d2j9rcn.png)
9: Bluff Check (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/3/a/bluff_check_by_1337salty-d2juwb4.png)
10: A Dramatic Entrance (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/170/6/9/a_dramatic_entrance_by_1337salty-d2lkxrp.png)
11: We Have a 4th Wall? (http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/170/b/d/we_have_a_4th_wall__by_1337salty-d2nbbxg.png)
12: Separating Church and State (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/170/e/5/separating_church_and_state_by_1337salty-d2ssxa1.png)
13: New Character (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/8/8/new_character___oots_by_1337salty-d2t43z6.png)
14: Resource Management (http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/0/0/resource_management___oots_by_1337salty-d2tc7o8.png)
15: Vision Test (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/a/9/vision_test___oots_by_1337salty-d2tm0o5.png)
16: Jack's Attack (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/4/9/jack_s_attack___oots_by_1337salty-d2ttpsh.png)
17: Reanimation (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/b/8/reanimation___oots_by_1337salty-d2u4uk8.png)
18: Politics (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/b/e/politics___oots_by_1337salty-d2ucdgc.png)
19: Cruel and Unusual Punishment (http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/3/5/cruel_and_unusual_punishment_by_1337salty-d2up2mg.png)
20: Back to Normal (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/d/1/back_to_normal___oots_by_1337salty-d2uxk9k.png)
21: An Explanation (http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/170/3/3/an_explanation___oots_by_1337salty-d2v79nq.png)
22: Inspire Loathing (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/0/6/inspire_loathing___oots_by_1337salty-d2vzng0.png)
23: Suspicion (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/4/3/suspicion___oots_by_1337salty-d2xmkzy.png)
24: Dishonorable Archer (http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/170/5/3/dishonorable_archer___oots_by_1337salty-d2xww3k.png)
25: A New Day (http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/0/9/a_new_day___oots_by_1337salty-d2y58co.png)
26: Recap (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/170/6/5/recap___oots_by_1337salty-d2ywt94.png)
27: Writer's Block (http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/5/7/writer_s_block___oots_by_1337salty-d2z4u39.png)
28: Searching... (http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/170/f/d/searching______oots_by_1337salty-d2ze2ja.png)
29: Must Be a Bad Part of Town (http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/170/0/1/must_be_a_bad_part_of_town_by_1337salty-d357iai.png)
30: The Gods Must Hate Bards (http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/7/c/the_gods_must_hate_bards__oots_by_1337salty-d3ffkv3.png)
31: CSI: Idiocy (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/170/d/7/csi__idiocy___oots_by_1337salty-d3fqpln.png)
32: Looks Like He Was Right, After All (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/170/4/2/looks_like_he_was_right___oots_by_1337salty-d3fyvj8.png)
33: In Which I Make Fun Of Myself (http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/170/e/f/in_which_i_make_fun_of_myself_by_1337salty-d3gi1a9.png)
34: Interruptions (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/170/6/9/interruptions___oots_by_1337salty-d3hdqvd.png)
35: At Least It Wasn't A One (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/4/d/at_least_it_wasn_t_a_1___oots_by_1337salty-d47h2mg.png)
36: Nightfall (http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/d/c/nightfall___oots_by_1337salty-d47wgrp.png)
37: 6 Seconds Per Hour (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/8/9/6_seconds_per_hour___oots_by_1337salty-d5fyv0f.png)
38: Triumphant Return (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/170/0/4/triumphant_return___oots_by_1337salty-d67xvbt.png)
39: He Must Have the Improved Interrogation Feat (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/177/1/1/he_must_have_the_improved_interrogation_feat_by_13 37salty-d6as9ya.png)
40: Communication Delay (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/266/1/7/communication_delay___oots_by_1337salty-d6nlbwv.png)
41: Stumpy Sure Does Suck (http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/267/e/8/stumpy_sure_does_suck___oots_by_1337salty-d6nqnoq.png)


Banner

http://fc09.deviantart.com/fs49/f/2009/169/9/8/WLiSB_Banner___Jon_by_1337Salty.jpg

Extras
10a: Just to F--- With You (http://fc09.deviantart.com/fs47/f/2009/172/e/5/Just_to_f____With_You_by_1337Salty.jpg)
14: Wez-Yo's Intervention (Unblurred) (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/074/a/5/Comic_14_Unblurred_by_1337Salty.png)
Hey, Listen! (http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs47/f/2009/183/2/b/SSBB_Comic_2_by_1337Salty.jpg)

A few things you should know about the comic.

1. The name is a parody of a comic a friend of mine once wrote. I won't go into too much detail, he no longer writes it, but I figured you should know. Also, this comic is based on my games of D&D, and they took place in the basement of my friend's house when I decided on a comic name. His name is Simon. This shouldn't cause you any further questions.

2. Yeah, their heads are ovals, not circles. If you feel strongly about this, let me know. It was originally caused by a bad monitor, but I've fixed that problem. Updating all the characters would take a bit of time and effort, though, and none of the readers at the time really felt that it would be necessary.

3. Yes, I know some parts seem to be ripped off of OotS. For example, Dave, Jack, Stumpy, some of my jokes, etc. I have already been working on branching away, but keep in mind that the characters aren't as shallow as they appear, and the difference between my comic and the Giant's should become more noticeable as time progresses.

Feedback would be excellent! :smallbiggrin:

[Bayar]

Preety good...umm, original art style ? You could use some more background and stuff though.

[Salty]

Preety good...umm, original art style ? You could use some more background and stuff though.

Did I say that it was an original style? :smallconfused: Also, I'll be adding background as soon as the character introductions finish. So in about 2 comics.

[Salty]

New comic!

9: PCAD: PC Attention Deficit (http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs46/f/2009/167/4/1/PCAD__PC_Attention_Deficit_by_1337Salty.jpg)

[Cizak]

I like it. Very much, actually.

Two nitpicks though:
If Jack's char is a girl, then why doesn't she have any boobs? :smallconfused:
And Dave's jumps are to stiff. It's basiclyy a standing-position that you turned.

[Salty]

I like it. Very much, actually.

Two nitpicks though:
If Jack's char is a girl, then why doesn't she have any boobs? :smallconfused:
And Dave's jumps are to stiff. It's basiclyy a standing-position that you turned.

Thanks! Jack's character doesn't have a specified gender yet. I realize the gag is overdone, and I will probably reveal it after I milk it a bit, but I guess you could imagine that he is incredibly flat chested, or his thick shirt covers up any indication. As for Dave, thanks for the advice. I really wasn't that sure about it, and I'll try to improve it the next time I have him jump.:smallsmile:

[Green-Shirt Q]

I like it. Very much, actually.

Two nitpicks though:
If Jack's char is a girl, then why doesn't she have any boobs? :smallconfused:


Yes, because ALL women everywhere have humongous, earth-shattering breasts. :smalltongue:

Also, I am reading this comic as well. I have to say, I am slightly bored due to the lack of plot, but that will fix itself shortly, I suppose.

Good luck, Salty! :smallsmile:

[Salty]

Yes, because ALL women everywhere have humongous, earth-shattering breasts. :smalltongue:

Also, I am reading this comic as well. I have to say, I am slightly bored due to the lack of plot, but that will fix itself shortly, I suppose.

Good luck, Salty! :smallsmile:

Thank you! And yeah, a simple one page introduction probably would have worked better, but I've finally reached the point where I can have the characters do something.:smallcool:

[Szilard]

Okay, these are kind of funny.:smallbiggrin:

[Salty]

Okay, these are kind of funny.:smallbiggrin:

Thank you!:smallsmile:

[Davedude]

I like it. Very much, actually.
...And Dave's jumps are to stiff. It's basiclyy a standing-position that you turned.

See, I'm not the only one who thinks that of my character.

[Salty]

See, I'm not the only one who thinks that of my character.

You didn't say that! At least, you didn't say it at any point that I would be able to address the issue. Oh, and that's Dave, everyone. :smallsmile:

[Fay Graydon]

*waves little WLiSB flag*
Yay! I'm a supporter ^_^

THIS COMIC IS OFFICIALLY SUPPORTED BY THE GOD OF DESTINY!

[Salty]

*waves little WLiSB flag*
Yay! I'm a supporter ^_^

THIS COMIC IS OFFICIALLY SUPPORTED BY THE GOD OF DESTINY!

Well, it's great to be supported by destiny. :smallbiggrin:

Oh, and it's funny that you mentioned a flag, because I just made a banner for the comic.

http://fc09.deviantart.com/fs49/f/2009/169/9/8/WLiSB_Banner___Jon_by_1337Salty.jpg

Enjoy!

[Fay Graydon]

I like the way its actually a D&D campaign. Meaning that the characters break rules like no talking when unconscious as well ^^
You should do a gag about the Players talking OOC and DM counts it as the Characters are randomly chatting which gives their position away or something =3

[Salty]

I like the way its actually a D&D campaign. Meaning that the characters break rules like no talking when unconscious as well ^^
You should do a gag about the Players talking OOC and DM counts it as the Characters are randomly chatting which gives their position away or something =3

That is a pretty good idea. I may use it when the time comes. :smallbiggrin:

[Salty]

New Comic!

10: Pronunciation Troubles (http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs46/f/2009/170/1/8/Pronunciation_Troubles_by_1337Salty.jpg)

I had to add the dashes mainly because there is no better way that I could think of to show how Dave was pronouncing it. Except maybe italics. Crap. Oh well, the comic's staying like it is. :smallsmile:

[Fay Graydon]

New Comic!

10: Pronunciation Troubles (http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs46/f/2009/170/1/8/Pronunciation_Troubles_by_1337Salty.jpg)

I had to add the dashes mainly because there is no better way that I could think of to show how Dave was pronouncing it. Except maybe italics. Crap. Oh well, the comic's staying like it is. :smallsmile:

Hehehee ahhh all the problems go away when you kill the shop owner, take his moneis.
And steal his Stab-lings

[Tiffanie Lirle]

Pretty neat little comic, the characters do feel a tad generic though. But reading comics 2-6 I guess that was the point. The art could use a little cleaning up, but nothing that won't improve itself over time. I do however, find the wide oval heads to be a bit weird. :smalltongue:

[Fay Graydon]

I like the heads... i find it a nice change to standard circles.

[Green-Shirt Q]

Very funny. Stab-ling. :smallbiggrin:

I know these guys are based on characters you personally have played with, but this guy still seems like a Belkar clone. No offense.

[Salty]

Very funny. Stab-ling. :smallbiggrin:

I know these guys are based on characters you personally have played with, but this guy still seems like a Belkar clone. No offense.

Yeah, I agree with you, for now, anyways. I have plans to have him deviate from Belkar's nature soon enough, but for now, he appears to be nothing more than a rip-off. :smallsmile:

Oh, and the about the oval heads mentioned above; that was unintentional. I didn't even realize that their heads were ovals until someone pointed it out and I checked it on my iPod. Until I get a new monitor, however, there isn't much I can do. Afterwords, I'll probably fix it, unless a lot of people suddenly agree with Fayte. It could happen.

[Cizak]

Heehee :smallbiggrin:

:belkar: What the ass!? This guy is copying my style! I'm gonna track him and his comic's author down and slit their throat!!


Salty and Dave, you better hide.

[Elder Wraith]

I agree with Fayte - I find different heads interesting.

Also, maybe you should try to clarrify what level they're at - It'd be refreshing for a 1st-level webcomic instead of (excuse my 4th edition language, it's all I know) Paragon- or Epic-tier.

[Salty]

I agree with Fayte - I find different heads interesting.

Also, maybe you should try to clarrify what level they're at - It'd be refreshing for a 1st-level webcomic instead of (excuse my 4th edition language, it's all I know) Paragon- or Epic-tier.

Yes, they are at 1st level. I was hoping that this seemed clear since they rolled up characters in the first comic. Maybe I'll make a reference to their level later. :smallsmile:

[Fay Graydon]

I agree with Fayte

:smalleek: Someone agrees with me?! :smalltongue:

[Davedude]

Hey, my character may be a belkar clone for these comics, but I didn't have any input about it. Mostly :smallbiggrin:

[Salty]

New comic!

10a: Just to f--- With You (http://fc09.deviantart.com/fs47/f/2009/172/e/5/Just_to_f____With_You_by_1337Salty.jpg)

You brought this upon yourselves. :smallbiggrin:

Also, I've been receiving feedback about this, so I have a question to ask. I recently got a new monitor, which is slightly better than my old one, and I am now able to work with plain circular heads. But the question is, should I? Some of you say that you are attached to the oval heads. Keep in mind when responding that if I change the heads, it will take a while to change all of my pre-made images, so the updates will be less frequent. Thoughts?

[Davedude]

Keep them.

[Sir Dar]

I like this comic so far ,got a few laughts out of it.Going have to keep my eye on this interesting comic. ps keep up the good work.

The name for 10a is funny,becurse its true.

Keep the oval heads.If it works don't fix it.

[Cizak]

I think you should keep them :smallsmile:

[Szilard]

Don't fix something that isn't broken, the oval heads are fine.

[Salty]

Wow, I didn't think that the ovals were that likable. :smalleek:

Or you just don't want a delay in comics...

Either way, it's good. :smallbiggrin: I guess I'll keep the ovals.

[Salty]

Sorry, guys. I'm going to be out of state for the next few days, so there will be a slight delay. No more comics until next week. Feel free to check out my Deviantart page (http://1337salty.deviantart.com/), though. I have a few non-WLiSB comics, and some other OotS-Style stuff there. :smallsmile:

[Salty]

Hi everyone! I'm back! I haven't gotten around to making #11 yet, but I did make this for another OotS-Style comic on my Deviantart page (http://1337salty.deviantart.com/).

Hey, Listen! (http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs47/f/2009/183/2/b/SSBB_Comic_2_by_1337Salty.jpg)

I'll get to the next comic soon, I just have some things I need to do right now. Maybe in a few days. :smallsmile:

[Elder Wraith]

*Funeral march plays*

This comic...has been deemed awesome with no updates. Also known as DEAD.

[T-O-E]

What? The OP's last post was made only two days ago.

[Salty]

*Funeral march plays*

This comic...has been deemed awesome with no updates. Also known as DEAD.

Yeah, it's not dead. I was out of state, and therefore unable to make new comics, and I've been busy lately. The comic is on hiatus at best. Thanks for saying it's awesome, though! :smallbiggrin:

[Salty]

Sorry, not #11, but I finished a comic for a different series on my deviantart page (http://1337salty.deviantart.com/) (wow, I link to this almost every post) a few minutes after the holiday ended in my time zone. Oh well, happy Independence Day, Americans.

Independence Day (http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs46/f/2009/185/c/f/OoGK___Independence_Day_by_1337Salty.jpg)

[Cizak]

I'm not American, so I don't know if I can really comment on that without making an ass out of myself.


I can nitpick though! :smallbiggrin:

Panel 5: The speech bubbles are in the wrong order. When you read, you read from left to right. When the bubbles are in the wrong order, the dialouge gets all funny. It's a little frustrating to read. Don't worry though, this is an error I've seen in alot of comics :smalltongue: Just try to keep it in mind.

[Salty]

Panel 5: The speech bubbles are in the wrong order. When you read, you read from left to right. When the bubbles are in the wrong order, the dialouge gets all funny. It's a little frustrating to read. Don't worry though, this is an error I've seen in alot of comics :smalltongue: Just try to keep it in mind.

Thanks. I was trying to finish this comic before midnight (almost made it), so I rushed some of the details. I'll come back to that later. :smallsmile:

[Mystic Muse]

little nitpick. the hair on the dwarf is wrong. look in a comic like this http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/181 and compare your character's hair to theirs. I guarantee it'll look a lot better if you change to that.

[Salty]

little nitpick. the hair on the dwarf is wrong. look in a comic like this http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/181 and compare your character's hair to theirs. I guarantee it'll look a lot better if you change to that.

I read that comic, and that's a gnome. Still, I'll probably fix the beard. Thanks!

[Elder Wraith]

Thanks for saying it's awesome, though! :smallbiggrin:

Your'e welcome

[Salty]

I don't know why I bothered to tell you I was back, I'm leaving again. I'll be gone a bit longer this time, but in a couple weeks, I'll hopefully have #11 done. Thanks for reading! :smallbiggrin:

[EmeraldPhoenix]

I don't know why I bothered to tell you I was back, I'm leaving again. I'll be gone a bit longer this time, but in a couple weeks, I'll hopefully have #11 done. Thanks for reading! :smallbiggrin:

LIAR!:smallmad:

[T-O-E]

Hence the "hopefully".

[Salty]

Okay, maybe I haven't exactly reached the deadline I made. No where near it, in fact. A lot has come up so far, and I haven't had a good opportunity to make more comics. I'm hoping to get back into a somewhat regular schedule soon, but I can't promise anything. I can, however, give you this comic (http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs50/f/2009/268/b/a/1st_Anniversary_by_1337Salty.gif), which I made in celebration of my 1st full year of writing comics. It's basically a giant ad for my Deviantart page (http://1337salty.deviantart.com/), so make of it what you will. Speaking of which, if you're at all interested in the comic, you can get a rough idea of what's coming next by reading the hand-drawn WLiSB comics (http://1337salty.deviantart.com/gallery/#Rough-Drafts) I have up there. The art is terrible, and I hadn't really gotten the hang of writing comics yet, but it goes to 26, and I'm going to base the next comics off of them.

In short, I do plan on making more comics, I have a lot planned for this comic, such as new characters, villains, and an actual plot; but I don't know when I'll have an opportunity to work on those. I hope to add more soo, but we'll see how that turns out. :smallbiggrin:

[Khaeta]

Nice comic :smallbiggrin:
Always good to see that I'm not the only DM with PC-relations issues...

[littlequietguy]

I love this comic! 10 is my favorite! Alternate humor style!

[Salty]

Alright, I finally have number 11 (http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs50/f/2009/304/1/e/Random_Encounter_by_1337Salty.jpg) done!

As you can probably tell, I'm a pretty big Doctor Who fan. Anyways, with any luck, I'll have number 12 done soon as well. Stay tuned! :smallbiggrin:

[Cizak]

Omigosh! Is this comic up and running again?

YAY!! :smallbiggrin::smallbiggrin::smallbiggrin:

[Salty]

Alright, I'm considering upgrading Wez-Yo and Stumpy's appearances, specifically their hairstyle. What do you think?

http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs50/f/2009/306/5/7/Stumpy_Avatar_by_1337Salty.pnghttp://fc05.deviantart.com/fs50/f/2009/306/5/6/Wez_Yo_Avatar_by_1337Salty.png

[Cizak]

I like... um.... eh...
:smallannoyed:
I like The Elf's new hair, but I actually like The Dwarf's old hair more. But the new isn't horrible, so jut go with what you like :smallsmile:

[Salty]

I like... um.... eh...
:smallannoyed:
I like The Elf's new hair, but I actually like The Dwarf's old hair more. But the new isn't horrible, so jut go with what you like :smallsmile:

It certainly is nice to hear some feedback. :smallsmile:

I agree with you somewhat on Stumpy's hair, but it definitely needs an upgrade. Technically speaking, it didn't really conform to standard OotS style hair, and, while not necessarily a bad thing, I thought it seemed out of place. If you have any specific aspects of it you liked, let me know. He's not scheduled to appear until comic 14, so I'll have time to give him another upgrade.

[Cizak]

Hmm... after looking a little more closely, I think the thing I like about Stumpy's (Yey! I learned someone's name!) old hair is the fact that it's not that tall, in fact not any taller than how tall he actually is. The new hair feels a little to tall for me, nad also since it's more spikey it feels like he's been using some hair-product to make it look like that, and that's not very fantasy :smalltongue:

EDIT: But for god's sake, I'm just a whiney little fifteen year old kid. JUst do it the way you like it :smallamused:

[Salty]

New comic!

12: BarQuest (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs51/f/2009/328/1/7/BarQuest_by_1337Salty.jpg)

Can't say too much now, but I ended up rushing this comic before I leave tomorrow, so there could be some typos. What do you think? :smallbiggrin:

[Cizak]

Heh. Nice.

Can I ask a question?
Are we ever going to see them on an adventure or is this comic gonna be nothing but stand-alone joke-comis?

[Salty]

Can I ask a question?
Are we ever going to see them on an adventure or is this comic gonna be nothing but stand-alone joke-comis?

Certainly!

Yes, you will see them adventuring soon. The opening is rather slow, which is partially intentional. They will definitely be given their first adventure in comic 20, along with the introduction of a new character. I do have a long-term plot planned, but it will be a while before that's mentioned. The long beginning is representative of the beginning of most of my campaigns, which usually take a few hours to get to, as the comic should make obvious.

[Salty]

Another comic's done! :smallbiggrin:

I feel this one deserves a bit of an explanation, though. You see, when I first started this comic, it was even worse than it is now. :smallamused: It was hand-drawn, and my readers were almost entirely comprised of the people that were in it. I've been expanding, and I have plans for a full story and work to make it more accessible to people who don't know us personally, but I felt it was only right to recreate what I had done so far. With some changes, of course. Unfortunately, that doesn't always work out. This comic, in particular, was rather difficult, since it was comprised entirely of inside jokes. I was faced with a conundrum; if I changed it, I would have to do a major rewrite of the next few comics, but if I left it, no one would know what would be going on.

My decision was to give the reader a basic understanding of these inside jokes with bonus strips. I highly recommend re-reading these (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs47/f/2009/165/c/b/Bow_Envy_by_1337Salty.jpg) two (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs46/f/2009/162/4/5/Free_Will__What_Free_Will__by_1337Salty.jpg) before starting this one.

You've been warned.

13: Simon, Assaulted (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2009/348/1/0/Simon__Assaulted_by_1337Salty.jpg)

[Cizak]

Um, is this "Cheese"-character someone that excists in real life? :smallconfused::smalleek::smalltongue:

[Salty]

Um, is this "Cheese"-character someone that excists in real life? :smallconfused::smalleek::smalltongue:

Cheese is based on someone in real life, which is part of the reason I thought that this comic contained too many inside jokes. But yeah, I guess all of those emotions apply. In reality, she was about 13 when I first wrote this comic, and her personality hasn't suffered a major change in the past year or so.

[Salty]

Alright, it certainly has been a while, but I'm back! I had a few technical difficulties, but those have been resolved, so now I should be updating a lot more frequently.

14: Wez-Yo's Intervention (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/038/8/2/Wez_Yo__s_Intervention_by_1337Salty.png)

I would also like to direct your attention to the fancy new site (http://wlisb.thecomicseries.com/) I've got (kinda) thanks to the fine folks at ComicFury. There isn't really anything in the way of extra content, but the series is much easier to read there. Enjoy!

One last note. I have done other noon-WLiSB comics for my DeviantArt, including a spinoff series called Out of Game Knowledge, which features the players instead of the characters. Would you guys be interested in seeing some other comics here? That is, should I link my other comics here as well?

[CrimsonAngel]

I would have made some of the panels normal with the ranger there, and some panels in his eyes.

[Salty]

I would have made some of the panels normal with the ranger there, and some panels in his eyes.

Hmm...Interesting idea, although I made a few couple of changes to Dave that I'm not going to reveal for a couple more comics. You've already seen the hat in 10a, but there's something else as well, and I thought this would make it a tad more dramatic. I am, however, going to take 10a out of the lineup, making the reveal a bit better.

[Salty]

Amazingly enough, I have another comic done! Considering my update schedule before these last few comics, that really is something!

15: Bluff Check (http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/046/8/7/Bluff_Check_by_1337Salty.png)

Also, the question stands. Would you want me to post some of my other comic work here as well? Here, why don't I include an example.

Cold as...uh...heck. (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/040/0/9/OoGK___Cold_as_Hell_by_1337Salty.png)Hm...I hope this doesn't get me in trouble for the forum's swearing policy...

[Cizak]

Ah, getting all the town guards afetr you... that's role play.

Good, although I think you should set one fixed size on your text and keep it to that.

[Salty]

Ah, getting all the town guards afetr you... that's role play.

Good, although I think you should set one fixed size on your text and keep it to that.

If that were true, my players would be some of the best role-players I've met! :smallbiggrin:

I see your point, but it really helps illustrate a change in volume, such as when they're shouting or mumbling. I might include a slight change in font as well to help separate the two, but I don't think it'd work as well in those situations if I left it the same size.

[Cizak]

Dude, it is true! Half of me and my friend's games the player(s) piss of the guards in the town they start in :smalltongue:

[Salty]

Wow! It's been a while, but I've got another comic done!

16: A Dramatic Entrance (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/072/5/a/A_Dramatic_Entrance_by_1337Salty.png)

Hopefully I'll get back to working on these more often. :smallbiggrin:

[Salty]

Alright, it looks like I forgot to change it here, but I'm taking 10a: Just to F--- With You (http://fc09.deviantart.com/fs47/f/2009/172/e/5/Just_to_f____With_You_by_1337Salty.jpg) out of the archive, since it reduces some of the dramatic effect of Dave's recent reveal. I am, however, leaving it as an extra, so make of it what you will.

Speaking of extras, I decided to add an unblurred version of comic 14 in as well. It's there if you're interested.

14: Wez-Yo's Intervention (Unblurred) (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/074/a/5/Comic_14_Unblurred_by_1337Salty.png)

[Salty]

New comic!

17: We Have a 4th Wall? (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/098/1/3/We_Have_a_4th_Wall__by_1337Salty.png)

I wasn't all that happy with how this came out. The original joke was made because Dave would draw mustaches on the hand-drawn comics, but that didn't really work for this version. I faced the decision of either rewriting this comic, or restructuring this entire group of comics. This seemed like the best choice.

[Salty]

Hey, I'm back! Surprised? First off, I have a new comic for you.

18: Separating Church and State (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/179/a/8/Separating_Church_and_State_by_1337Salty.png)

I'm now proud to announce that I plan to have a regular update schedule, with a new comic every Monday and Friday.

We'll see how long this lasts, but I'm hoping it works out. Oh, and a couple of important notes. I'm going to be out of town for a few days, so I may miss the next update or two. It all depends on when I have an internet connection. Also, when I say comic, it could apply to another OotS-Style comic I've been making, Out of Game Knowledge, as well. I haven't been posting them here, but if anyone's interested, I could start.

Alright, thanks for reading, and I will be back soon! :smallbiggrin:

[Cizak]

Poor Jon :smallfrown:

Nice to have you back.

[Salty]

Poor Jon :smallfrown:

Nice to have you back.

Nice to be back. :smallcool:

And don't worry too much about Jon; he's got a bonus arc coming up for the sole purpose of rescuing him.

[Salty]

As promised, here's a new comic!

18a: New Character (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/183/b/f/New_Character___OotS_by_1337Salty.png)

[Cizak]

Wait, we'll have two Jons when this plot is over? Meh, maybye he'll make one of them dramaticlly sacrifice himself for the other one :smalltongue:

Oh, before I forget, in your archive you have one #18 and one #18a.

[Salty]

Wait, we'll have two Jons when this plot is over? Meh, maybye he'll make one of them dramaticlly sacrifice himself for the other one :smalltongue:

Oh, before I forget, in your archive you have one #18 and one #18a.

Yeah, that's intentional. I originally hand-drew the comic (you can see the crappy originals on my deviantart, if you are so inclined), and I'm still in the process of remaking them. Every so often I think of a good comic to place in certain areas, so I've made a few extra comics, such as after 7 and 8. This entire arc of them saving Jon is a bonus arc, seeing as how I skipped over it originally, so that might spoil a bit about how it's resolved, but I hope you enjoy it all the same.

[Salty]

New comic!

18b: Resource Management (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/186/1/d/Resource_Management___OotS_by_1337Salty.png)

At this rate, I'll have more jokes lampshading how my jokes are similar to those in OotS than I will of jokes that actually are similar to OotS's. :smallbiggrin:

[Ninjaman]

Awsome comic. Very pathetic:smalltongue:

[Salty]

Awsome comic. Very pathetic:smalltongue:

Thanks! Uh...I think...:smallwink:

[Salty]

New comic!

18c: Vision Test (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/190/2/6/Vision_Test___OotS_by_1337Salty.png)

[super dark33]

its not funny,sorry

the DM narraration is a good idea but you pretty much copied evrything from OOTS.
it can get better if you would change the ''killing maniac halfling'' thame to a ''friendly jolly peacfull halfling'' thame.

just by saying this i feel like i can do that to outer webcomics! muhahahaha

[Salty]

the DM narraration is a good idea but you pretty much copied evrything from OOTS.
it can get better if you would change the ''killing maniac halfling'' thame to a ''friendly jolly peacfull halfling'' thame.

I don't know about "everything", but I will admit that a lot, especially closer to the beginning, is quite similar to OotS.

I have been trying to spread out, and that should be more evident later on, but I'm still mostly working with comics that I wrote quite a while back. After comic 26, they will all be brand new, so I'll have more room to show a more original side. That'll most likely involve me dropping Jack's gender ambiguity, hopefully giving Stumpy some more personality, and, of course, better establishing Dave as a separate character. I agree that he really does need a shift from where he is now, but I'm not going to go as far as you suggested. Still, some new tendencies and personality traits should be showing up soon, as I hinted here (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs47/f/2009/172/e/5/Just_to_f____With_You_by_1337Salty.jpg).

[Salty]

Alright, new comic! :smallcool:

18d: Jack's Attack (http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/193/0/1/Jack__s_Attack___OotS_by_1337Salty.png)

[Cizak]

Yeah! Know things are starting to happen! And don't worry, this is funny :smallsmile:

[Salty]

Yeah! Know things are starting to happen! And don't worry, this is funny :smallsmile:

Well, things are starting to happen in a sidequest, so it can only be so exciting. :smallamused:

But thanks! I'm glad you enjoy it. :smallsmile:

[super dark33]

well THAT and the vision test were funny

[Salty]

well THAT and the vision test were funny

I'm glad you liked them! Unlike most of the comics I've been posting, they're actually brand new, so I hope it's a bit more telling of how this comic will go.

[super dark33]

the last ones are orginal jokes?



an advice:
player:rogar orders the strongest drink they have!
DM:ok but the barmaid tells you that a dwarven ale isnt for the weak stomech
player:oh cmon!rogar has high con! thare is only a 5% he will fail! *rolls some dice*
DM:you fail

[Salty]

the last ones are orginal jokes?



an advice:
player:rogar orders the strongest drink they have!
DM:ok but the barmaid tells you that a dwarven ale isnt for the weak stomech
player:oh cmon!rogar has high con! thare is only a 5% he will fail! *rolls some dice*
DM:you fail

The last few (with the letters included in their numbers, such as 18c) are bonus comics that I've written more recently. The others, such as 18, were written about a year and a half ago, and are only now being made digitally. I'm tweaking the dialogue somewhat, but it's still pretty similar to how it was when I was just starting out.

And that's pretty good, I might work with that. :smallsmile:

[Cizak]

the last ones are orginal jokes?



an advice:
player:rogar orders the strongest drink they have!
DM:ok but the barmaid tells you that a dwarven ale isnt for the weak stomech
player:oh cmon!rogar has high con! thare is only a 5% he will fail! *rolls some dice*
DM:you fail

...that one isn't original, it's from The Gamers.

[Salty]

New comic.

18e: Reanimation (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/197/8/5/Reanimation___OotS_by_1337Salty.png)

To be honest, although I was considering doing something like this quite a bit later, this only ended up happening because she won a contest. I was annoyed.

[Salty]

New comic!

18f: Politics (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/200/1/6/Politics___OotS_by_1337Salty.png)

I hope this doesn't step over the bounds of politics on the boards...

[Cizak]

Giggled at 18e, but 18f unfortunately takes me to an error page.

[Salty]

Giggled at 18e, but 18f unfortunately takes me to an error page.

It's working fine with me, so I'll just direct you to an alternate host (http://wlisb.thecomicseries.com/images/comics/6afc58a181d53ffcb5667d75f9495d101524343946.png).

Alternatively, you could just check it out on Deviantart (http://www.1337salty.deviantart.com/)or Comicfury (http://wlisb.thecomicseries.com/).

And I'm glad you enjoyed it! :smallbiggrin:

[Salty]

New comic!

18g: Cruel and Unusual Punishment (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/204/8/e/Cruel_Unusual_Punishment_Oots_by_1337Salty.png)

I didn't think I was going to make this update, but with less than 10 minutes remaining, here it is! :smallcool:

[Cizak]

That's too cruel :smallfrown:

[Salty]

That's too cruel :smallfrown:

At least it wasn't Goatse. :smallamused:

[Salty]

Update time!

18h: Back to Normal (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/209/d/f/Back_to_Normal___OotS_by_1337Salty.png)

Okay, so I technically said that I'd update on Monday, and it's 1:09 AM on Tuesday morning where I am, but whatever. I'm counting this as on time. :smallwink:

[super dark33]

that was a ''get rid of somthing you wont bother drawing''

and that i mean by killing him

[Cizak]

At least it wasn't Goatse. :smallamused:

Hooray. That was one old internet-picture I've hidden in a safe deep in my brrain. Now it's out again. Thanks. :smallsigh:

[Salty]

that was a ''get rid of somthing you wont bother drawing''

and that i mean by killing him

It wasn't as much killing him so I wouldn't have to draw him as it was killing him because I had no idea what I'd do with a second Jon. But yeah, pretty much.

And sorry about that, Cizak. :smalleek:

[Salty]

Alright, new comic!

19: An Explanation (http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/211/c/6/An_Explanation___OotS_by_1337Salty.png)

Unfortunately, I'm announcing a brief hiatus. With GenCon coming up, and a bunch of work I still have to do for school, I just don't think I can work on the comic enough, and here, at the end of the bonus arc, seemed like a good place to stop. I hope I'll be back before to long, and I'll tell you now that when I return there will be a new (non-player) character introduced, and the players will get their first actual quest! I'll see you then.

[Cizak]

Hehe :smallbiggrin: Good way to end one. I'll be waiting for you.

[Salty]

Hehe :smallbiggrin: Good way to end one. I'll be waiting for you.

Thanks! Nice to hear. It actually worked out quite well for an ending, but I originally made it to skip over this arc. I'm glad I was able to work it into a fitting ending, though.

[Salty]

No, I haven't ended my hiatus yet, but I do have a new comic for you.

20: Inspire Loathing (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/221/0/b/Inspire_Loathing___OotS_by_1337Salty.png)

I decided to post it early since I hit 7,000 pageviews on Deviantart. Enjoy!

Oh, as a side note, I should probably specify that Wally is an NPC.

[Ninjaman]

No, I haven't ended my hiatus yet, but I do have a new comic for you.

20: Inspire Loathing (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/221/0/b/Inspire_Loathing___OotS_by_1337Salty.png)

I decided to post it early since I hit 7,000 pageviews on Deviantart. Enjoy!

Oh, as a side note, I should probably specify that Wally is an NPC.

Whoo new party member.

[Salty]

I'm back! (For real this time). Expect comics on Mondays and Fridays, if things go well, although I don't know how long this will last.

21: Suspicion (http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/242/3/e/suspicion___oots_by_1337salty-d2xmkzy.png)

[Salty]

Alright, update time!

22: Dishonorable Archer (http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/246/7/8/dishonorable_archer___oots_by_1337salty-d2xww3k.png)

And due to quite a few long nights, it looks like I won't be missing any updates for a while. :smallbiggrin:

[Cizak]

Hehe :smallbiggrin:

[Salty]

Alright, new comic!

23: A New Day (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/249/8/1/a_new_day___oots_by_1337salty-d2y58co.png)

Two bonus comics are coming up next. They fix a couple of issues I've had with the comic so far.

[grimbold]

sick enders game reference in comic 17

[Salty]

sick enders game reference in comic 17

Thanks! I couldn't resist. :smallbiggrin:

[Salty]

Continuing my Monday/Friday schedule, here's a new comic!

23a: Gender Disambiguation (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/253/6/3/gender_disambiguation___oots_by_1337salty-d2yfohm.png)

[Salty]

Alright, time for a new comic! Sort of. 6 panels, at least.

23b: Objections (http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/256/c/1/objections___oots_by_1337salty-d2ynm11.png)

That's the end of the changes I wanted to have made, so comic 24'll be up Friday.

[mastermind]

I like this comic :)

[Salty]

I like this comic :)

Glad to hear it! :smallsmile:

[Salty]

Alright, it's time for an update!

24: Recap (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/260/f/f/recap___oots_by_1337salty-d2ywt94.png)

[Salty]

Another update!

25: Writer's Block (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/263/3/b/writer__s_block___oots_by_1337salty-d2z4u39.png)

[mastermind]

Yay updates!

[Maximum Zersk]

*1d12 pun damage*

[Cizak]

UGH! :sigh:
In a good way :P

[Salty]

And here's another comic!

26: Searching... (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/267/5/e/searching______oots_by_1337salty-d2ze2ja.png)

This marks the end of the comics I originally drew by hand. Basically, this means that my comics will no longer be based on work I made almost two years ago, when I first started making comics, but will instead show a lot more of what I've learned in this...wow, two years? Really? Okay...two years of making comics. To put that in perspective, I very nearly cut that last comic because I wasn't too fond of it, and I really only kept it in since I had almost finished without making any major changes (although if I did cut it, I would have missed that great "pun damage" line, Zersk :smallbiggrin:). The bonus comics, however, are more recently written, so they might give you a better idea of what the comic will be like now.

Long story short, the comics will hopefully be better, but I probably made the change sound much more dramatic than it really will be.

Now for some bad news, unfortunately. With school back in, I've got nowhere near as much free time as I did before, so I'm going to have to restart my hiatus. You'll probably see some comics every now and then, but there's no way I'll be able to maintain a regular update schedule and keep my sanity.

I'm glad to see there are more people reading this here, and thanks for your comments and your interest! :smallsmile:

[Salty]

Hey! It's another update finally! Sorry, no new schedule yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were more to come quite soon!

27: Must Be a Bad Part of Town (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/354/3/c/must_be_a_bad_part_of_town_by_1337salty-d357iai.png)

[Cizak]

Panel 4 cracked me up:smallbiggrin:

[Salty]

What's this? An update? Shocking!

28: The Gods Must Hate Bards (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/122/e/a/the_gods_must_hate_bards__oots_by_1337salty-d3ffkv3.png)

I hit 10,000 pageviews on Deviantart, my original host, so I've decided to celebrate by updating again! Expect comics Mondays and Fridays until I run out. That could be fairly soon, but summer's approaching, so there'll be a lot more then. Half my archive was made last summer, so I wouldn't be surprised if there was more this year. :smallbiggrin:

[Ninjaman]

Yay, new one. Poor hafling.

[Salty]

It's a bit later than I'd like, but it's an update!

29: CSI: Idiocy (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/126/4/7/csi__idiocy___oots_by_1337salty-d3fqpln.png)

I have to admit that I don't really like the title, but I had already wasted too much time on it.

And thanks for the comment, Ninjaman! It's good to be updating again. :smallsmile:

[Ninjaman]

Doh. Also why are their heads so low?

[Salty]

Doh. Also why are their heads so low?

Are you referring to this strip, or the comic in general?

I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about, but they do have slightly oval-shaped heads, which could cause what you're seeing. I mentioned it in the first post, but I'll put it here again to clarify.


2. Yeah, their heads are ovals, not circles. If you feel strongly about this, let me know. It was originally caused by a bad monitor, but I've fixed that problem. Updating all the characters would take a bit of time and effort, though, and none of the readers at the time really felt that it would be necessary.

If that isn't the problem, or even if it is, I would appreciate it if you elaborated. I never mind advice about improving my work! :smallbiggrin:

[Salty]

Yep, another one!

30: Looks Like He Was Right, After All (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/129/7/6/looks_like_he_was_right___oots_by_1337salty-d3fyvj8.png)

Who knows how long this'll keep up, but it'll probably end soon. No guarantees about Friday at this point.

[Salty]

My apologies. My internet was down on Friday, so I ended up deciding just to delay until today. So here you go!

30a: In Which I Make Fun Of Myself (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/136/3/3/in_which_i_make_fun_of_myself_by_1337salty-d3gi1a9.png)

[Ninjaman]

I had not seen that coming, the worst death a stick figure can ever have.

[Salty]

I had not seen that coming, the worst death a stick figure can ever have.

Huh? :smallconfused:

[Ninjaman]

Huh? :smallconfused:

They talk about killing the comic.

[Salty]

They talk about killing the comic.

Oh! Haha, no, they were just talking about the individual strip. I can see how it'd be a bit confusing.

[Ninjaman]

Oh! Haha, no, they were just talking about the individual strip. I can see how it'd be a bit confusing.

Oh, phew. I was getting a little scared.

[Salty]

First I have that ambiguous comic, and now no update?

Sorry, I'm skipping Friday, and no word on Monday yet. We'll see if I finish it in time. :smallbiggrin:

That being said, I did make another comic (http://1337salty.deviantart.com/art/OogK-Rapture-OotS-209661412) for my non-D&D strip (Out of Game Knowledge) that I hope will be a worthy substitute.

[Ninjaman]

I like it.

[Salty]

Hey, it's an update!

31: Interruptions (http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/147/b/7/interruptions___oots_by_1337salty-d3hdqvd.png)

It seems late, but the days I would have been updating I was updating my other comic. (http://oogk.thecomicseries.com/) :smallwink:

[CrimsonAngel]

Eeeeheeheehee, I giggled at the first one. I love it when he looks back at them with that face.

[Ninjaman]

Nice. This is why fighters is kinda bad :smalltongue:.

[super dark33]

Actually, hes an atheist paladin

[Ninjaman]

Actually, hes an atheist paladin

:smalleek: This is as wierd as Max´s chaotic neutral paladin. I love it.

[super dark33]

nah, a paladin of nazizem is weirder (and illegal) {he was one before}

[Lemonus]

Will love to see this continue.

[BeethroBudkin07]

That bit was pretty funny. Can't wait for more! :smallsmile:

[Salty]

Wow, my plans to make more updates during the summer didn't pan out at all!

Sorry about that! Fortunately, I'm now able to say that I'm updating again (for a while at least :smallwink:).

Here's the new comic, and expect them Mondays and Fridays as long (or short, which would probably be accurate chronologically, though not grammatically) as I can keep it up!

31a: At Least It Wasn't A One (http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/234/5/f/at_least_it_wasn__t_a_1___oots_by_1337salty-d47h2mg.png)

[super dark33]

YES! its back!

[Salty]

YES! its back!

:smallbiggrin: It's always nice to hear such excitement.

And I have today's update all ready!

32: Nightfall (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/238/c/2/nightfall___oots_by_1337salty-d47wgrp.png)

Not as much humor as plot this time, I'm afraid.

[Ninjaman]

Heh, nice.

[Salty]

Oh, hey, turns out I'm alive after all! Here's a comic.

33: 6 Seconds Per Hour (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/269/b/4/6_seconds_per_hour___oots_by_1337salty-d5fyv0f.png)

[super dark33]

There you are!

Are the dougnuts stale because the comic was dead for more then a year?

[Salty]

There you are!

Are the dougnuts stale because the comic was dead for more then a year?

Haha, I like that. Yes, that is now the reason.

[Hamste]

Oh, hey, turns out I'm alive after all! Here's a comic.

33: 6 Seconds Per Hour (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/269/b/4/6_seconds_per_hour___oots_by_1337salty-d5fyv0f.png)

:O The exact same thing happened to my group... except I ended up shooting our cleric twice in the back because I got multiple ones.

[Salty]

It's been a while since I've been here. I've had a busy year, and then laziness, and so on. The point is, comic!

34: Triumphant Return (http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/156/7/6/triumphant_return_by_1337salty-d67xvbt.png)

I'm going to go for once a week from this point on. Wednesdays, as long as I can keep it up. Thank you very much for your patience, and for reading!


:O The exact same thing happened to my group... except I ended up shooting our cleric twice in the back because I got multiple ones.

The cleric, really? That's the worst. Still, I love that as a GM. :smalltongue:

[Salty]

34a: Wild Party (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/163/f/7/wild_party___oots_by_1337salty-d68snv2.png)

Technically it's the 52nd if you count 10a.

This comic may seem a bit filler-y but that's because it is. I wanted to take this time to announce a change in my archive. I will be making a few changes to past strips to improve the comic as a whole. Comics 1 through 8 will be consolidated into one big introduction strip. They were the first comics I wrote, so they were amateurishly written. Not to mention it is a very slow beginning, and I fear it scares away readers with lower-quality strips. Additionally, I'm eliminating the bonus strips. I enjoyed the concept, but realized I had no more planned, and I thought the imbalance between the frequent bonus strips in the beginning and the complete absence later on would be peculiar. The "Saving Paladin Jon" arc will be upgraded to plainly-numbered strips. The ones after strips 7 and 8 will be cut, since I feel their quality is sub-par, and the ones after 23 will be cut since they fix a few problems that I will retroactively cut. 31a will also be upgraded to a full strip. Oh, and this comic will be cut, too. This means that, all in all, the later strips will be numbered two higher than they currently are. Remastering old strips is a dangerous road that has killed many a webcomic, so I will be careful. I will leave the art the same, and only make some minor dialogue edits. These changes will be carried out over the next few days, and by next week this should be fully resolved.

I will, of course, keep the original strips online in some form, either here or on a separate page. It is also incredibly important to me that I get your feedback on this change; the entire purpose is to improve the comic, and the only opinion that matters is that of my readers. Thank you all so much for your support.

[Hamste]

Out of curiosity what game system is this comic based on? I half want to figure out the stats of some of them (I already know Wesly has 5 hp and a single point of con). Also there is a good chance that they have good dexterity and they have good wisdom.

As long a there is a way to still see those comics I am ok with the changes.

[Salty]

New comic! I ended up taking last week off after restructuring the archive.

39: He Must Have the Improved Interrogation Feat (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/177/1/1/he_must_have_the_improved_interrogation_feat_by_13 37salty-d6as9ya.png)

It's a prerequisite for the Guantanamo Guard prestige class.

There's no hidden political statement one way or the other; "Enhanced Interrogation" just sounds a hell of a lot like a feat.

The archive restructure is officially done! I'm considering creating a small site to store all of the unedited strips, but for now, everything's up and running as it should be. I would love it if you look back through the archive and tell me what you think of the change.




Out of curiosity what game system is this comic based on? I half want to figure out the stats of some of them (I already know Wesly has 5 hp and a single point of con). Also there is a good chance that they have good dexterity and they have good wisdom.

As long a there is a way to still see those comics I am ok with the changes.

I've been using Pathfinder as the system as far back as I can remember, but I noticed a couple of the first comics seem to be made with 3.5 in mind (Simon's health, in particular, is remarkably low for Pathfinder). I would update it to make it consistent, but I just cut those strips, so it doesn't really matter now. And while I don't have character sheets made out for them, I have tried to be consistent whenever I make reference to any stats or mechanics, and I would love to see what you come up with! :smallbiggrin:

[Hamste]

...so not much to go on so far. I have been focusing on Wesly's sheet so far though I have figured out both of Jon's feats and his dexterity.

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=598638
It will fill out more as more information comes up

Also just pointing this out, in comic 38, a natural 20 in a skill check is not an automatic success

[Salty]

...so not much to go on so far. I have been focusing on Wesly's sheet so far though I have figured out both of Jon's feats and his dexterity.

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=598638
It will fill out more as more information comes up

Also just pointing this out, in comic 38, a natural 20 in a skill check is not an automatic success

Impressive! I don't remember intending Wesley to have a sword, but can you tell me which comic you got it from? I'd be happy to clear that up.

I imagine solid info will be few and far between, I'm afraid. I'll probably be vague if I can get away with it; I don't want to accidentally limit future strips.

As for the automatic success thing, I had it wrong for a while when I started running games, and when I realized my mistake, I decided I preferred it the way I was doing and kept going. I don't think I've come across a scenario where 20+modifier wasn't enough. You could chalk it up to Jack being a new player was wrong, though, if you prefer.

[Hamste]

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/3/5/cruel_and_unusual_punishment_by_1337salty-d2up2mg.png

He reaches for a sword on the wall in this episode, assumedly he kept it as he has not been in town yet and there is no reason to drop it.


I figured it was something like that just felt I should point it out. It is usually enough but sometimes it just doesn't make sense for something to work even on a natural 20 (For example a master thief who has trained all their life to sneak being seen by an untrained commoner with 5 wisdom who is not paying close attention at all)

[Salty]

New comic, finally!

40: Communication Delay (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/266/1/7/communication_delay___oots_by_1337salty-d6nlbwv.png)

Knowing their luck, Other Jon did, too.

39-41 killed me in planning; I kept cutting them off at different points. It's the main reason the update schedule failed; I make up my mind. At one point, I think they were all going to be one big comic, but it made the jumps too awkward. I'm not wild about the ending to this one; it's more plot-based than humor based, and I don't know if I can pull that off yet.

Oh, and Simon's Goblin incompetence is a joke he's sure to bitterly give a fake chuckle at. It works on another level, though; I like the idea of making fun of sorcerers for being unintelligent. A wizard would get a bunch of bonus languages from his intelligence score, but Simon can't even get one right. I might expand on that sometime in the future.


http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/170/3/5/cruel_and_unusual_punishment_by_1337salty-d2up2mg.png

He reaches for a sword on the wall in this episode, assumedly he kept it as he has not been in town yet and there is no reason to drop it.


I figured it was something like that just felt I should point it out. It is usually enough but sometimes it just doesn't make sense for something to work even on a natural 20 (For example a master thief who has trained all their life to sneak being seen by an untrained commoner with 5 wisdom who is not paying close attention at all)

Oh, that's Jon's sword! Sorry if I didn't make it clear; he gives it back off-panel. I'm not too proud of the art there; if I was going to fix art on old comics, I'd definitely make it more clear that it's among Jon's possessions.

To me, it's very situational. Unless it's so outlandish that it's obvious a player's trying to take advantage of the system, I like that outside chance that something ridiculous could happen. It's dependent on the tone, though; in a fantasy game, some miraculous mishap/success seems fun and exciting, but it wouldn't be fitting in a gritty, modern game. One in twenty is a bit frequent for some of the more ridiculous happenings, but they come up so rarely I haven't had to worry about it.

Sorry about taking so long to respond; I feel guilty talking about the comic when I'm behind on updates.

[OoTLink]

Pretty darn funny :D

I like it!

[Salty]

New comic!

41: Stumpy Sure Does Suck (http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/267/e/8/stumpy_sure_does_suck___oots_by_1337salty-d6nqnoq.png)

Hey, I've got a question for you guys! This is the spot where I normally add the comments and alt-text I have on most of the hosting sites, but before recently I would instead write a much shorter, unique comment here. Does anyone have a preference one way or the other?


Pretty darn funny :D

I like it!

I'm always glad to hear that! :smallbiggrin: