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Babale
2009-06-19, 12:59 AM
Welcome to Monstrous!

About (Comic):
Monstrous is a comic about a group of... What else, Monstrous Humanoids, out on a quest to create their own nation. Of course, not everyone is happy about that...

About (Updates):
We'll have an update about once every 3 days, more often when I'm happy, less when I'm sad.

Currently, we are in Once-A-Day-Athon, meaning I'll post every day until we get to 10 comics! Yay!

About (Characters):
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THE COMIC!
Current Comic:
http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/babale/Monster%20Comic/Monstrous3.png

Past Comics:
#1: I Guess He Took That Homebrewed "Racist" Flaw (http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/babale/Monster%20Comic/Monstrous1.png)
#2: "Run" Wasn't on the Build Guide (http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/babale/Monster%20Comic/Monstrous2.png)

Babale
2009-06-21, 01:15 AM
So my comic is up now.

Hope you like it.

And yes, "Racist" is a real flaw:

http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Racist_(DnD_Flaw)

Tempest Fennac
2009-06-21, 01:23 AM
I'm curious about where this is going to go. (I find it ironic that Ogres are Giants rather then Monstrous Humanoids, though.:smalltongue:)

Babale
2009-06-21, 01:25 AM
Oh comon! You get the point.

Is it bad that there will be a troll, too?

Ichneumon
2009-06-21, 01:25 AM
I like it, I'm going to see where this is going.

I never understand the logic behind the giant types anyway, so

Babale
2009-06-21, 01:27 AM
Neither do I. Especially since really, why should an ogre be immune to Charm Person, while a half-orc isn't?

Babale
2009-06-21, 01:33 AM
I was gonna wait until I had more of a buffer, but... Update #2 is here!

Tempest Fennac
2009-06-21, 02:26 AM
I don't think the presence of a Troll would really be an issue. Will races like Gnolls or Lupins appear in the comic? (I never got why Lupins are classed as Monstrous Humanoids when they are only the same size as humans while Gnolls are Humanoids dispite being more animal-like then Lupins.) I think with Charm Person, it's just a balancing mechanism to avoid players getting something that's too powerful as a friend at low levels.

The Blackbird
2009-06-21, 08:09 AM
Looks good so far but...*Punches* don't steal flumps:smallfurious:

Green-Shirt Q
2009-06-21, 08:20 AM
This seems okay so far.

Why is there always a hooded guy whose face is not seen in fancomics? Is that the only way to be mysterious? :sigh:

Lyinginbedmon
2009-06-21, 09:02 AM
No, but it helps.


Although, for a pair of guys running they're not exactly..."dynamic"

Tempest Fennac
2009-06-21, 09:05 AM
Based on the text, I think that they were only just starting to run, Lying; that would explain the lack of apparent movement.

Babale
2009-06-21, 11:46 AM
Based on the text, I think that they were only just starting to run, Lying; that would explain the lack of apparent movement.

This. They only now ran

lord of kobolds
2009-06-21, 06:06 PM
Come on, let's see us some kobolds.

Daddy needs a new pair of kobolds.

Babale
2009-06-21, 08:23 PM
No kobolds! At least, not as PCs.

Well, maybe one...

Green-Shirt Q
2009-06-21, 08:27 PM
No kobolds! At least, not as PCs.

Well, maybe one...

But he'll end up as a hat.

Or a nacho container.

That statement is probably the 4th best way to get people to NOT read your comic.

Babale
2009-06-21, 08:39 PM
Whua? People like kobolds that much?

CrimsonAngel
2009-06-21, 08:40 PM
He means copying oots stuff.

Babale
2009-06-21, 08:43 PM
Fixed.

Besides, anyone who actually READS the comic will see that there's only going to be 1 OoTS reference.

Babale
2009-06-22, 05:28 PM
Hey guys!

I'd like to present:
THE ONCE-A-DAY-ATHON!

I need to reach 10 comics in order to join the Webcomic Secret Santa, and so, I'm going to post a new comic every day!

CrimsonAngel
2009-06-22, 05:35 PM
Get on with it then. :smalltongue:

Babale
2009-06-22, 11:50 PM
I did. Monstrous 3 is up.

And say hello to all the cast!

Jallorn
2009-06-22, 11:55 PM
There, I posted, now hush.

Babale
2009-06-22, 11:58 PM
Alright: I haven't seen any of you post something CONSTRUCTIVE here.

Tempest Fennac
2009-06-23, 12:54 AM
I can't honstly think of anything to say about the comic; I've been enjoying it so far, and I'm curious about where it's going to go. Regarding Kobolds, they seem to be an incredibly popular race with some people who post frequently in the Roleplaying Game section, but I'm not sure how universal that is. Q, what were the other best ways to discourage people from reading the comic?

onasuma
2009-06-23, 02:02 AM
At a guess:

#3: Actually steal jokes from another comic.

#2: Try to do a humour comic based heavily around a real world religious crusade.

#1: Repost someone elses comic and claim it as your own work.

Gourtox
2009-06-23, 05:52 AM
Yay its here now. Also why is that troll the aquaric subtype troll? Seems a bit out of place. I will be following this.

Green-Shirt Q
2009-06-23, 06:32 AM
Whua? People like kobolds that much?

Yes. It's an incredibly popular race. In fact, adding a kobold character is the the 5th best way to get people TO read the comic!

Of course, you don't have to add any character you have no plans for just to pander to the audience. But saying officially that you'll only bring in kobolds to have them die is a deal breaker for some.


He means copying oots stuff.

No, but that's bad too.


Q, what were the other best ways to discourage people from reading the comic?

3rd best way to get people to NOT read your comic: swearing. Thankfully, this comic is without that for now. And even if it was put in, the mods will cancel the webcomic, so we probably won't be seeing it at all.

2nd best way to get people to NOT read your comic: jokes about foreign cultures, even if those cultures themselves find it funny. This is a good way to discourage anybody (mainly white people, I would guess) away from any form of media. The more obscure the culture you make fun of, the more discouraging. People will read it and say "Wait, is that offensive? Can I laugh at that without being a racist?" and it will scare them away. This comic also seems to be without that.

And finally, the 1st best way to get people to NOT read your comic:
*drumroll*
Crappy writing. :smalltongue:

Babale
2009-06-23, 08:29 AM
Yay its here now. Also why is that troll the aquaric subtype troll? Seems a bit out of place. I will be following this.

The troll is an aquatic subtype IN OotS. I decided I liked how it looks, so in MY comic, it's a normal troll.

Cizak
2009-06-23, 11:22 AM
I think it looks good :smallsmile:

One thing though, isn't it ResistAnce?

onasuma
2009-06-23, 01:02 PM
3rd best way to get people to NOT read your comic: swearing. Thankfully, this comic is without that for now. And even if it was put in, the mods will cancel the webcomic, so we probably won't be seeing it at all.

I disagree. C2H5OH has swearing and roughly a page of comments per comic drawn.

Green-Shirt Q
2009-06-23, 01:04 PM
I disagree. C2H5OH has swearing and roughly a page of comments per comic drawn.

Yes, but these rules just make it slightly less likely that people won't read. They won't forcefully stop anybody from reading.

And your comic swears? Really? I'll have to reread, because somehow I missed them. :smallconfused:

T-O-E
2009-06-23, 01:08 PM
Sometimes swearing's needed. I mean, it's useful for impact and can be very meaningful (see the latest Erfworld page for an example). Also, it's kind of unrealistic to leave out curses.

But yeah, don't just add them anywhere. Use sparingly and appropriately. Unless one of your characters swears a lot.

Green-Shirt Q
2009-06-23, 01:14 PM
Okay. I've reread C2H5OH. I haven't seen any of the swears I was talking about.

I didn't mean little swears like "hell", "crap", "ass", or any other swears that OOTS has put in themselves.

I'm talking biggies, here. F-word. S-Word. N-Word! Those are the kinds of words that put people off reading the comic!

And I mean frequently, too. Erf doesn't count because they've said one of them only once at the end. That won't drive anybody away (particularly since it has ended).

Babale
2009-06-23, 06:18 PM
Hey Q, why dost thou hate Inkscape?

T-O-E
2009-06-23, 06:22 PM
People kept trying to get him to use it and now he's annoyed.

Babale
2009-06-23, 06:25 PM
Oh. So what DOES he use?

The Dark Fiddler
2009-06-23, 06:36 PM
I was going to say Fireworks or w/e, but that's Nameless.

And now I fell I'm officially a member of the community; I can remember people I don't directly interact with.



3rd best way to get people to NOT read your comic: swearing. Thankfully, this comic is without that for now. And even if it was put in, the mods will cancel the webcomic, so we probably won't be seeing it at all.


I have to disagree; people like swearing. If anything, it'll increase readership.

The sad part is, I don't know whether I'm kidding or not.

Babale
2009-06-23, 06:38 PM
No, no. BEST way to get people to stop reading: Realistic gory photos of mangled dead bodies that are nauseating even to soldiers and police officers.

Green-Shirt Q
2009-06-23, 08:20 PM
Hey Q, why dost thou hate Inkscape?

I don't have a reason. It's on my Meaningless Rage List! There is a reason my list is called "Meaningless".


Oh. So what DOES he use?

Why do you care? :smallannoyed:

Babale
2009-06-24, 06:29 PM
I care from general curiosity.


And sorry for the delays, I've been very busy. No promises, but another comic may show up today.

Jallorn
2009-06-24, 06:42 PM
If I'd nagged you yesterday about getting a strip out like I thougt about doing, would that be considered saying something constructive?

Babale
2009-06-26, 09:34 PM
No, I'd just ragequit.

OK, will update soon... Sorry I'm so busy, I'll try to get multiple strips up over the weekend.

Jallorn
2009-06-26, 09:37 PM
Don't make promises and you don't have to keep them.

Nevitan
2009-06-26, 09:46 PM
This comic seems a bit above par in relation to most of the other comics. I think I'll follow it and see where it goes.

Babale
2009-06-26, 10:02 PM
Thanks! In terms of art, plot, what?

And Jallorn: That's pretty much why I said "No Promises".

Nevitan
2009-06-26, 10:07 PM
Well the art isn't the best but it's not painful to look at, which can't be said about a lot of the fan comics. You've also got the text at a nice readable size that doesn't take up too much of the panels.

It's too early to comment about the plot, but it seems like it could be going somewhere interesting.

Babale
2009-06-26, 10:11 PM
Thanks!

I like your avatar's shadow... If I learn to, I may some day make my comic have shadows and light levels!

Jallorn
2009-06-26, 10:15 PM
Hey babale, wanna join my game as I'm in yours?

Nevitan
2009-06-26, 10:18 PM
I wouldn't if I were you. Shading is a bit of a pain, and takes quite a bit of time. It might work every now and again for a dramatic moment, but not for every comic. Even the Giant doesn't shade his comics.

Babale
2009-06-26, 10:23 PM
Giant doesn't shade his comics because it goes against his style. I want to make that my style. But then again, I don't get my comics done AS IS; why would I wanna add MORE work?

Truth is, when I said EVENTUALLY, I meant When I Retire in 50 years.

Jallorn
2009-06-26, 10:24 PM
Erf has shading.

Nevitan
2009-06-26, 10:33 PM
Erf isn't vector art.

Feel free to shade, I'm just saying it's a lot of work.

Babale
2009-06-26, 11:36 PM
So guys, I'm gonna need a little break... Please post questions about the comic, I'll be doing a QandA soon.

Hacktor
2009-06-26, 11:56 PM
It looks nice... although the ogre's feet are disturbingly bent :D
Other than that :D great work

Babale
2009-06-27, 12:07 AM
Guys? Please? I need fan-mail!

Jallorn
2009-06-27, 12:09 AM
If someone comes up with a good idea when talking about what they expect will happen, will you use it?

Babale
2009-06-27, 12:12 AM
Depends. Show it first.

Jallorn
2009-06-27, 12:17 AM
Well I don't have anything yet...

Babale
2009-06-27, 12:20 AM
Well, just ask about the cast or something... Oh well, I'll probably get 2 more REAL comics done before I need filler, so you guys have time.

Mad Mask
2009-06-27, 08:18 AM
I wouldn't if I were you. Shading is a bit of a pain, and takes quite a bit of time. It might work every now and again for a dramatic moment, but not for every comic. Even the Giant doesn't shade his comics.

I have to disagree. I shade everything in my comics and I'm still able to put up with a 3 comics per week schedule (although I'm just at comic #7 :smalltongue:). It generally takes me about an hour to make a comic, and a bit less if I have pre-shaded templates.

CrimsonAngel
2009-06-27, 09:29 AM
You're doing a QaA and asking for fan mail and you only have 2 comics?

Babale
2009-06-27, 11:20 AM
3 questions. And the QnA won't be used for 2 or 3 strips at the least.

Green-Shirt Q
2009-06-27, 11:27 AM
Alright, here's a question:

Why are you answering these questions instead of defending yourself against the knife-wielding madman STANDING RIGHT BEHIND YOU!

(Note: you get bonus points if you don't use the obvious answer)

CrimsonAngel
2009-06-27, 01:23 PM
I weild a bow. :smallconfused:

Jallorn
2009-06-27, 01:43 PM
Niiiiiiiice.

Cizak
2009-06-28, 06:09 AM
I weild a bow. :smallconfused:

You win one(1) cookie.

CrimsonAngel
2009-06-28, 09:31 AM
Why do I win a cookie?

Cizak
2009-06-28, 10:16 AM
I weild a bow. :smallconfused:

Because that comment was pure cookie-win :smallbiggrin:

Green-Shirt Q
2009-06-28, 10:20 AM
Because that comment was pure cookie-win :smallbiggrin:

I would have to disagree. :smallsigh:

Cizak
2009-06-28, 10:38 AM
Meh, I thought it was funny. Nevermind, pretend I never typed anything:smallannoyed:

CrimsonAngel
2009-06-28, 01:11 PM
I think it's because my location is "Behind you" and you said there was a knife weilding person behind him.

SoD
2009-06-28, 09:26 PM
Thri-keen! I'm in love with this comic now!

CrimsonAngel
2009-06-29, 08:54 AM
Thri-keen! I'm in love with this comic now!

You don't have to be a girl anymore...

Green-Shirt Q
2009-06-29, 09:05 AM
You don't have to be a girl anymore...

Neither do you. :smallwink:

CrimsonAngel
2009-06-29, 09:06 AM
Neither do you. :smallwink:

I can't think of a comeback...

Fredthefighter
2009-06-29, 10:30 AM
Neither do you. :smallwink:

Zing! :smallbiggrin:

The_Q: 1, CrimsonAngel: 0

:smallbiggrin:

Babale
2009-07-06, 12:15 AM
Hey guys.

I'm having a bit of a writer's block right now, so I'm gonna take a little break. Sorry. :smallfrown:

Instead, I'll be posting another webcomic in this thread called A Necromancer's Tale.