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Amador
2009-06-23, 02:39 AM
I was wondering if anyone had formed a progression for starting gold for epic, in particular for above 40th level?

Adumbration
2009-06-23, 03:35 AM
I think it's called WBL? Dungeon Master's Guide, page 135.

Eloel
2009-06-23, 03:37 AM
I think it's called WBL? Dungeon Master's Guide, page 135.

Read the whole post next time please, it's not even that long. He's asking for over L40, which is well beyond the DMG, and even ELH doesn't have guidelines on almost anything above L40

Adumbration
2009-06-23, 03:39 AM
Read the whole post next time please, it's not even that long. He's asking for over L40, which is well beyond the DMG, and even ELH doesn't have guidelines on almost anything above L40

He's asking starting gold. As in, 4d4x10 gps at first level. Or maybe I've got it wrong.

Atelm
2009-06-23, 03:41 AM
He's asking starting gold. As in, 4d4x10 gps at first level. Or maybe I've got it wrong.

No, he says he wants to know how much gold a character, particularly above 40th level, would start with if created at that level.

sofawall
2009-06-23, 03:48 AM
Didn't I see a thread recently where someone had a close formula?

ericgrau
2009-06-23, 03:55 AM
5.3 * level * level * level * level, rounded to the nearest 100k, gives a pretty darn good approximation for epic levels.

Eloel
2009-06-23, 03:57 AM
5.3 * level * level * level * level, rounded to the nearest 100k, gives a pretty darn good approximation for epic levels.

That formula gives 800k for level 20, which should be 960k. Not too bad, but not a good one either...

Biffoniacus_Furiou
2009-06-23, 04:00 AM
Someone did try that on the WotC boards. (http://forums.gleemax.com/wotc_archive/index.php/t-483054.html)

ericgrau
2009-06-23, 04:02 AM
5.3 * level * level * level * level, rounded to the nearest 100k, gives a pretty darn good approximation for epic levels.


That formula gives 800k for level 20, which should be 960k. Not too bad, but not a good one either...

That's not an epic level. It fits within 100k for levels 21-40 and is dead on for 12 of them, including the first 4. Falls apart completely for levels 1-20, which seems to have a different progression anyway.

EDIT: FWIW, based on my formula, the linked estimation seems to be a little too high at first, then way too high by level 50. I've tried various curve fitting methods in Excel and found some that are about as good as the posted formula, but nothing that's any better nor nearly as simple.

Douglas
2009-06-23, 06:16 AM
That formula gives 800k for level 20, which should be 960k. Not too bad, but not a good one either...
You're off by 200k. Level 20 WBL is 760k.

Eloel
2009-06-23, 06:59 AM
You're off by 200k. Level 20 WBL is 760k.

So it is. Sorry, ignore me :smallbiggrin:

Amador
2009-06-23, 10:33 AM
Thank you, that formula should work out well. I'm outfitting a demi lich as one of the major recurring npcs in a campaign and wanted to customize the creature,

Pharaoh's Fist
2009-06-23, 10:35 AM
Thank you, that formula should work out well. I'm outfitting a demi lich as one of the major recurring npcs in a campaign and wanted to customize the creature,

A level 40 demilich?

Name the item, and it has it. There, that's easier, isn't it?

SilverSheriff
2009-06-23, 11:01 AM
I think at these levels you'd be a wizard with a demiplane made of Diamonds which would be strip-mined...or some sort of gold-producing-machine...:smallconfused:

Blackjackg
2009-06-23, 11:02 AM
Odds are, if you're over level 40, you don't need money. You already own everything.

EDIT: I know that seems flippant and doesn't feel like it answers your question, but seriously. At that level, you can pretty much just have whatever you want, short of major artifacts (and you probably have a few of those, too).