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ken
2009-07-01, 06:09 PM
Assuming (for the moment) that Eugene did not open or read the contents of the folder...

Assuming (for the moment) that the title was nondescript - for example (Attn: Roy Greenhilt)

Could the information have been about Haley? (Her actions with respect to Crystal had only happened a few minutes ago also...)

Glasses (in her diligent avoidance of keywords) never mentioned Vaarsuvius - even after Roy was enjoying the mini-bar on the ride back - she just said not the halfling

No one knows about it at all (except Crystal - if she gets raised)

I would not expect it to be a "Good" act to accept (even grudgingly) the "hospitality" of the guild
- then commit premeditated murder on one of the members.

Just a thought...

- ken

Haven
2009-07-01, 06:12 PM
Close, except: "It details the elf wizard's alarming dealings with the forces of Evil."

ken
2009-07-01, 06:50 PM
sorry - missed that bit...

TMC
2009-07-01, 08:10 PM
Besides, looks pretty clearly like Crystal was evil. Killing her would be at the very worst, a neutral act for Haley.

NerfTW
2009-07-01, 08:47 PM
Is it too much to ask that people go back and check the strip in question before speculating about it?

derfenrirwolv
2009-07-01, 08:56 PM
Close, except: "It details the elf wizard's alarming dealings with the forces of Evil."



Clearly then, the secret Haley didn't tell Elan is that she's really and elf and has a level in wizard!

David Argall
2009-07-02, 12:05 AM
Besides, looks pretty clearly like Crystal was evil. Killing her would be at the very worst, a neutral act for Haley.

Definite evil. Just because somebody is evil does not give you a right to off them. And Haley's motives seem to include a substantial amount of merely personal hatred.

factotum
2009-07-02, 01:12 AM
Besides, looks pretty clearly like Crystal was evil. Killing her would be at the very worst, a neutral act for Haley.

Not this old thing again. So you think that every demon that kills a devil in the Blood War is doing a Good act, then? Devils are evil, after all!

No, motive matters. Belkar's motives for killing the unnamed thief back in the siege of Azure City were purely selfish, for example--he wanted to make sure that Hinjo would be alive to take the Mark of Justice off. Therefore it was not a Good act, despite the fact his target was Evil and was about to murder someone else!

Skorj
2009-07-02, 01:35 AM
Not this old thing again. So you think that every demon that kills a devil in the Blood War is doing a Good act, then? Devils are evil, after all!

No, motive matters. Belkar's motives for killing the unnamed thief back in the siege of Azure City were purely selfish, for example--he wanted to make sure that Hinjo would be alive to take the Mark of Justice off. Therefore it was not a Good act, despite the fact his target was Evil and was about to murder someone else!

Motives are hard. I'd say that Belkar's rationalization was as you describe - he knew was doing a good act, cringed at the very idea, and so provided himself with a facile rationalization as to how the act wasn't really good, you see. All about saving face.

But then, I think Belkar is growing up, and will die in a final act of alignment conversion (for which he will also have a facile rationalization :smallsmile:), so I attribute that motivation.