3.5 ed. class, would like review and tips

[Torgoth99]

[QUOTE=Demons_eye;6460514]Level|BaB|Fort|Reflex|Will|Class features
1|+1|+2|+2|+2|reavers cleave +1d6, SR 11, ABS +1
2|+2|+3|+3|+3|Feat, evasion, SR 12, ABS +2
3|+3|+3|+3|+3|reavers cleave +2d6, SR 13, ABS +3
4|+4|+4|+4|+4|SR 14 ABS +4
5|+5|+4|+4|+4|reavers cleave +3d6, SR 15, ABS +5
6|+6/+1|+5|+5|+5|Feat, SR 16, ABS +6
7|+7/+2|+5|+5|+5|reavers cleave +4d6, SR 17, ABS +7
8|+8/+3|+6|+6|+6|SR 18, ABS +8
9|+9/+4|+6|+6|+6|reavers cleave +5d6, SR 19, ABS +9
10|+10/+5|+7|+7|+7| Feat, SR 20, ABS +10
11|+11/+6/+1|+7|+7|+7|reavers cleave +6d6, SR 21, ABS +11
12|+12/+7/+2|+8|+8|+8|SR 22, ABS +12
13|+13/+8/+3|+8|+8|+8|reavers cleave +7d6, SR 23 ABS +13
14|+14/+9/+4|+9|+9|+9|Feat, SR 24, ABS +14
15|+15/+10/+5|+9|+9|+9|reavers cleave +8d6, SR 25, ABS +15
16|+16/+11/+6/+1|+10|+10|+10|SR 26 , ABS +16
17|+17/+12/+7/+2|+10|+10|+10|reavers cleave +9d6, SR 28, ABS +17
18|+18/+13/+8/+3|+11|+11|+11|Feat, SR 30, ABS +18
19|+19/+14/+9/+4|+11|+11|+11|reavers cleave +10d6, SR 32 ABS +19
20|+20/+15/+10/+5|+12|+12|+12|reflect, SR 35 , ABS +20




details:
spell resistance.

reavers cleave is like the rogues sneak attack but instead of flanking, its charging.

abs, or absorb, is where you have the option to absorb a spell coming at you, and be able to cast your own like a sorcerer, hence using charisma.
For example, loser mage shoots you with a 7 level spell(it has to beat your SR for u to be able to absorb it). You absorb it, and in turn, you may cast a 7th lvl spell back at him, or 7 1st lvl spells, or a 3 and a 4, ect.

spell reflect is where any spell that directly affects you is also cast at the caster. for example, loser mage shoots a fireball at you and it beats the sr. the fireball goes after you, but a second also goes at him.

i didnt really think of class skills, so thats open to suggestions, as well as suggestions to beef up or beef down this class.

[Trodon]

This looks like a cool class I'll have to try it sometime but what is the number after abs for?

[Yora]

That class has only one single class feature. That seems pretty boring to me, even a barbarian has more options.

[Vaynor]

For future reference, you will get a lot more people to review your class if it's readable. A little formatting and some grammar would be great.

[Torgoth99]

This looks like a cool class I'll have to try it sometime but what is the number after abs for?


thats the maximum lvl of combined spells u can asborb.

[Torgoth99]

For future reference, you will get a lot more people to review your class if it's readable. A little formatting and some grammar would be great.


ok, ill do that now.
(5 minutes later) damn, its being a bloody hag about it. ill get on it later.

[Demons_eye]

Level|BaB|Fort|Reflex|Will|Class features
1|+1|+2|+2|+2|reavers cleave +1d6, SR 11, ABS +1
2|+2|+3|+3|+3|Feat, ABS +2
3|+3|+3|+3|+3|reavers cleave +2d6, ABS +3
4|+4|+4|+4|+4|ABS +4
5|+5|+4|+4|+4|reavers cleave +3d6, ABS +5
6|+6/+1|+5|+5|+5|Feat, SR 16, ABS +6
7|+7/+2|+5|+5|+5|reavers cleave +4d6, ABS +7
8|+8/+3|+6|+6|+6|ABS +8
9|+9/+4|+6|+6|+6|reavers cleave +5d6, ABS +9
10|+10/+5|+7|+7|+7|Feat, ABS +10
11|+11/+6/+1|+7|+7|+7|reavers cleave +6d6, SR 21, ABS +11
12|+12/+7/+2|+8|+8|+8|ABS +12
13|+13/+8/+3|+8|+8|+8|reavers cleave +7d6, ABS +13
14|+14/+9/+4|+9|+9|+9|Feat, ABS +14
15|+15/+10/+5|+9|+9|+9|reavers cleave +8d6, ABS +15
16|+16/+11/+6/+1|+10|+10|+10|SR 26 , ABS +16
17|+17/+12/+7/+2|+10|+10|+10|reavers cleave +9d6, ABS +17
18|+18/+13/+8/+3|+11|+11|+11|Feat, ABS +18
19|+19/+14/+9/+4|+11|+11|+11|reavers cleave +10d6, ABS +19
20|+20/+15/+10/+5|+12|+12|+12| SR 35 , ABS +20




Heres a table man

[Tempest Fennac]

It's an interresting idea. It could be slightly 1-dimentional due to relying on Cleave and anti-casting abilities, but it looks okay balancewise.

[DracoDei]

Incriment the SR every level if at all possible. Since it is so critical to the class, the levels just before it incriments are going to be very weak compared to the levels where it incriments. Keep the same values you have listed, just interpolate for all the others.

In fact, let me give it a shot...

Level|SR
1|11
2|12
3|13
4|14
5|15
6|16
7|17
8|18
9|19
10|20
11|21
12|22
13|23
14|24
15|25
16|26
17|28
18|30
19|32
20|35

So up until 17th it is just (Level+10)...

[Torgoth99]

thanx for the table, demon.

so i should make it more versitile, but keep it balanced? kwl.

actually, draco, thats a lot better than mine. ill put that on there. as soon as i find out how to do the table, of course. :smallbiggrin:

[Pie Guy]

You can just quote, copy, paste. May require two open windows.

[Torgoth99]

[QUOTE=Demons_eye;6460514]Level|BaB|Fort|Reflex|Will|Class features
1|+1|+2|+2|+2|reavers cleave +1d6, SR 11, ABS +1
2|+2|+3|+3|+3|Feat, SR 12, ABS +2
3|+3|+3|+3|+3|reavers cleave +2d6, SR 13, ABS +3
4|+4|+4|+4|+4|SR 14 ABS +4
5|+5|+4|+4|+4|reavers cleave +3d6, SR 15, ABS +5
6|+6/+1|+5|+5|+5|Feat, SR 16, ABS +6
7|+7/+2|+5|+5|+5|reavers cleave +4d6, SR 17, ABS +7
8|+8/+3|+6|+6|+6|SR 18, ABS +8
9|+9/+4|+6|+6|+6|reavers cleave +5d6, SR 19, ABS +9
10|+10/+5|+7|+7|+7|Feat, SR 20, ABS +10
11|+11/+6/+1|+7|+7|+7|reavers cleave +6d6, SR 21, ABS +11
12|+12/+7/+2|+8|+8|+8|SR 22, ABS +12
13|+13/+8/+3|+8|+8|+8|reavers cleave +7d6, SR 23 ABS +13
14|+14/+9/+4|+9|+9|+9|Feat, SR 24, ABS +14
15|+15/+10/+5|+9|+9|+9|reavers cleave +8d6, SR 25, ABS +15
16|+16/+11/+6/+1|+10|+10|+10|SR 26 , ABS +16
17|+17/+12/+7/+2|+10|+10|+10|reavers cleave +9d6, SR 28, ABS +17
18|+18/+13/+8/+3|+11|+11|+11|Feat, SR 30, ABS +18
19|+19/+14/+9/+4|+11|+11|+11|reavers cleave +10d6, SR 32 ABS +19
20|+20/+15/+10/+5|+12|+12|+12|reflect, SR 35 , ABS +20




there we go. thanx, guys.

[DracoDei]

He meant edit it into the ORIGINAL post.

[Djinn_in_Tonic]

Eh...overall the class is decidedly uninteresting. I get pretty good spell resistance, extra damage on a charge (already easy to do with feats and other classes), some bonus feats (watch out for Ubercharger builds with this one...), and the ability (at 20th level) to reflect spells.

Personally, this seems better suited to a PrC, or a Martial Discipline. Having an entire class based on the (rather loosely connected) ideas of charging and also being resistant to magic is a little strange, and doesn't seem to be base class material.

If you do want to make it base class material, you'll have to expand your idea a bit and also grant more abilities. A fighter trained against casters only doesn't really add much the party in other fights. I'm not sure what to suggest, but I think you do need a wider idea. Perhaps a Witch Hunter or something similiar, specializing in fighting anything with spell-like or supernatural abilities...possibly also strong against Outsiders, Undead, Elementals, or the like.

Anyway, just thoughts.

[ZeroNumerous]

Wait.. A spell has to beat your SR to absorb it? That, does not make sense. At all. And what about spells that don't require a check against SR?

[Mr.Moron]

Eh...overall the class is decidedly uninteresting. I get pretty good spell resistance, extra damage on a charge (already easy to do with feats and other classes), some bonus feats (watch out for Ubercharger builds with this one...), and the ability (at 20th level) to reflect spells.

Personally, this seems better suited to a PrC, or a Martial Discipline. Having an entire class based on the (rather loosely connected) ideas of charging and also being resistant to magic is a little strange, and doesn't seem to be base class material.

If you do want to make it base class material, you'll have to expand your idea a bit and also grant more abilities.


I second pretty much all of what I've quoted from this point. These are very good points.

[Torgoth99]

Wait.. A spell has to beat your SR to absorb it? That, does not make sense. At all. And what about spells that don't require a check against SR?

no, a spell has to beat sr to BE absorbed.

well, those have bypassed the SR, and therefore may be absorbed.

and ok, ill try to add more abilities, but im kinda fresh out of ideas.

[Lord Loss]

I (unlike some) actually like the concept. However, there's no flavor whatsoever. Where do they get their powers from? A magic portal appeared in their bedroom whispering Timothy..... I know you're in there....

For instance:

The Spellstop Reaver

Spellstop Reavers are warriors who were destinied for arcane might, but shunned their calling and went on to battle, effective aggainst not only powerful spellcasters but their nonmagical minions and numerous lackeys. they
come from barabric lands as well as noble kingdoms. Many cities, empires and towns have a force of these warriors, coupled with spellthieves and dedicated to the destruction of cruel mages.

Casters Gone Spellstop Reavers

Spellstop Reavers are relatively new, for magic used to be respected and worshipped, instead of feared as it is toady. If a spellcaster takes a class of spellstop reaver, he may no longer learn new spells, but may continue to take levels in spellcasting classes. Divine Casters may continue to learn new spells if their god is in favor. If not, the god may revoke old spells as well as stopping them from learning new spells.