Health and safety

[Lukraak]

Never really thought about it till this comic, but I guess it makes sense that clerics would know what things are bad for pregnant women in DnD verse.

Which makes me wonder, apart from paralization, what else would that be?
I'm pretty sure level drain can't be a good thing, but what potions would be bad for instance?
And would this be different per race?

I bet drinking a lot of Haste potions/spells would give your child adhd

[LightningNinja]

P. of heroism is probably okay. I would avoid transmutation, esp. polymorph. Failing a reflex save against shout or fireball would be bad news.

[Teddy]

A sword through the chest, perhaps. And poison and disease. And probably most of the necromancies together with transmutations.

[OITS]

Maybe death...

[Ikialev]

Book of erotic fantasy:
http://i25.tinypic.com/vwrf47.jpg

And I believe sexchange can hurt the baby. Mentally.

[Zanaril]

Book of erotic fantasy:
And I believe sexchange can hurt the baby. Mentally.

From what I can tell, that's dealing with what happens when a male creature polymorphs into a female and becomes pregnant. :smallconfused:

[Snake-Aes]

From what I can tell, that's dealing with what happens when a male creature polymorphs into a female and becomes pregnant. :smallconfused:

It's valid for any kind of shapeshifting pregnant. Gender is quite irrelevant. I first read something on those lines in Werewolf.

[Qubanz]

Well that's Durkon, wise and experienced. Durkon I guess is one of those chars who doesn't really steal the show very often (Though when he does it's generally awesome.) but who's cool anyway.


Also Haley, I fully agree with you! :D

[Captain Alien]

Are there D&D rules for pregnancy? I guess not...

[The Dark Fiddler]

Book of erotic fantasy:
{{snip}}
And I believe sexchange can hurt the baby. Mentally.

How do we know that Rich follows those rules though? I mean, half the time he doesn't even follow the core's RAW. Or RAI for that matter.

Although it is nice to see an official third party view on the matter.


Are there D&D rules for pregnancy? I guess not...

There are third party books on the subject, such as the aforementioned Book of Erotic Fantasy.

Which happens to be the only 3.x book the local book store had in stock.

[Captain Alien]

There are third party books on the subject, such as the aforementioned Book of Erotic Fantasy.


What the... I though he was joking!

I must check it out.

[Larkspur]

Maybe death...

This actually raises a good question- what happens to the fetus if you get ghouled or wighted or vampired or zombified?

Do you get a little zombie fetus swimming around in your uterus? Does the fetus, not being zombified, decay inside you while you're preserved? It'd be hard for it to turn into a skeleton because its bones are mostly cartilage...

[Ikialev]

Don't check it, it will scar you for life.
Seriously. Apart from the photos, in which people looks like russian transsexuals, those things written... Reading necronomicon is like a headache to this.

2. There was an epic monster, which iirc was a psionic undead fetus.

3. I don't think that kids [forgot the world] survive even raising from dead, as they're parasites in this time. It's like raising flatworms with host.

4. Also -6 to dexterity.

[Faleldir]

If there was a type of potion that caused minor birth defects, I bet more people would use it. Free feat!

[Snake-Aes]

If there was a type of potion that caused minor birth defects, I bet more people would use it. Free feat!

That was dark.

[Ikialev]

If there was a type of potion that caused minor birth defects, I bet more people would use it. Free feat!

There is always Falcon Punch. :3

[Devils_Advocate]

Are there D&D rules for pregnancy? I guess not...
I think that the WotC books may not even have rules for children, much less fetuses.

[Siosilvar]

P. of heroism is probably okay. I would avoid transmutation, esp. polymorph. Failing a reflex save against shout or fireball would be bad news.

Arguably, one could use the rules for held items, and only a natural 1 would risk damage. Although considering an unborn child an "item" is rather callous.

[veti]

Ah, that takes me back...

In 1st Ed, being subject to a "Haste" spell or effect would age you by one year. The effect when cast on a pregnant woman was quite dramatic.

[Bibliomancer]

Ah, that takes me back...

In 1st Ed, being subject to a "Haste" spell or effect would age you by one year. The effect when cast on a pregnant woman was quite dramatic.

There are all sorts of variant rules that could be brought forward for the earlier editions.

What was the duration of haste, and was the year calculated in fractions?

[R. Malcovitch]

What if a pregnant woman shapechanged into something that was also pregnant? That way the fetus support infrastructure would remain.

[Captain Alien]

Oh, in d20 modern there are rules for children. D&D lacks this, but it would be nice to play with kids as PCs, like in television or films.

[Snake-Aes]

What if a pregnant woman shapechanged into something that was also pregnant? That way the fetus support infrastructure would remain.

But hardly providing the same stuff. Plus there's the time spent morphing.

[Mummy king]

I thought the potion Kazumi drunk while fighting the ninjas was a potion of rage. Maybe the kid will have anger issues and grow up to be a barbarian?

[Thrax]

What if a pregnant woman shapechanged into something that was also pregnant? That way the fetus support infrastructure would remain.

In Greek mythology, when Callisto was changed into bear, she was pregnant. Her son, Arcas, was born as a bear, which would mean the fetus morphs along with the mother. If I would REALLY have to include morphing pregnant women in my campaigns, I'd use that rule.

[Meg]

I always wondered if you can take ranks in medical knowledge (Mind you I don't play DnD, I apologize for inaccuracies or whatnot), like learning to dress wounds or knowing how to set broken bones or deliver a baby, should a cleric or other magical healing prove unavailable.

[Zevox]

I always wondered if you can take ranks in medical knowledge (Mind you I don't play DnD, I apologize for inaccuracies or whatnot), like learning to dress wounds or knowing how to set broken bones or deliver a baby, should a cleric or other magical healing prove unavailable.
That would be the "Heal" skill. Which, ironically, is only a class skill for classes that can cast healing spells anyway (in Core, the Cleric, Druid, Paladin, and Ranger). Even the skill-monkey classes, Bard and Rogue, don't have it on their class list.

Zevox

[Meg]

That would be the "Heal" skill. Which, ironically, is only a class skill for classes that can cast healing spells anyway (in Core, the Cleric, Druid, Paladin, and Ranger). Even the skill-monkey classes, Bard and Rogue, don't have it on their class list.


That's really inconvenient.

[The Dark Fiddler]

You could always cross-class.

But that's inefficient unless you've got extra skill point burning a hole in your pocket, or you really need the Heal skill.

[Berserk Monk]

I would think that anything bad would be worse for the baby, and anything good would at least be alright. There was this strip where Kazumi drank a potion (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0587.html) to fight the ninja guys.

[mcl01]

In Greek mythology, when Callisto was changed into bear, she was pregnant. Her son, Arcas, was born as a bear, which would mean the fetus morphs along with the mother. If I would REALLY have to include morphing pregnant women in my campaigns, I'd use that rule.

I thought Arcas was born human? There's the whole myth about Callisto, still a bear, meeting Arcas when he's older. He tries to hunt her down until Zeus has pity on his former lover and turns her into the Ursa Major constellation.

[Berserk Monk]

In Greek mythology, when Callisto was changed into bear, she was pregnant. Her son, Arcas, was born as a bear, which would mean the fetus morphs along with the mother. If I would REALLY have to include morphing pregnant women in my campaigns, I'd use that rule.

Also, Loki, a MALE god, transformed into a female horse and gave birth to Odin's steed. Not sure the point of this. Just wanted to point it out.

[Meg]

I read a book awhile back about a pregnant woman who could shapechange at will. Her fetus could, too, so she mostly sat around, changing shape below the waist every time the baby did.

[Zanaril]

Also, Loki, a MALE god, transformed into a female horse and gave birth to Odin's steed. Not sure the point of this. Just wanted to point it out.

Yea, but the horse ended up with eight legs. :smalltongue:

[Ancalagon]

Also, Loki, a MALE god, transformed into a female horse and gave birth to Odin's steed. Not sure the point of this. Just wanted to point it out.

Gods cheat anyway...

[Zanaril]

Especially Loki.

[Ancalagon]

Of course. Someone like Loki would even use aimbots and wallhacks in counterstrike... he's the biggest cheater you can imagine...

[Thrax]

I thought Arcas was born human? There's the whole myth about Callisto, still a bear, meeting Arcas when he's older. He tries to hunt her down until Zeus has pity on his former lover and turns her into the Ursa Major constellation.

Arcas was born a bear, but later changed into human by the gods. And yes, Loki seems to hold similar case, as I imagine he was still a mare when giving birth to Sleipnir.

[Teddy]

Arcas was born a bear, but later changed into human by the gods. And yes, Loki seems to hold similar case, as I imagine he was still a mare when giving birth to Sleipnir.

He's also father (mother?) to Fenrir and Jörmundgandr.

[Squark]

He's also father (mother?) to Fenrir and Jörmundgandr.

He did have a wife, so I assume he actually was their father, although Fenrir was a wolf (or did he just get turned into one. I assume this is where Fenrir Greyback of Harry Potter got his name)

[Zanaril]

He did have a wife, so I assume he actually was their father, although Fenrir was a wolf (or did he just get turned into one. I assume this is where Fenrir Greyback of Harry Potter got his name)

I think as well as having a wife, he had a... relationship with a giantess, and that's why his kids were a giant snake and a wolf. :smallsigh:

[Jamin]

Loki was the father of 3 kids
Fenrir a wolf that is the biggest enemy of the gods
A serpent that surrounds the world and will kill Thor
and Hel who is half dead and half alive

[Teddy]

Loki was the father of 3 kids
Fenrir a wolf that is the biggest enemy of the gods
A serpent that surrounds the world and will kill Thor
and Hel who is half dead and half alive

... and mother of Sleipnir, as mentioned earlier.

[Zanaril]

Loki was the father of 3 kids
Fenrir a wolf that is the biggest enemy of the gods
A serpent that surrounds the world and will kill Thor
and Hel who is half dead and half alive

*facepalm* Totally forgot about Hel...

[Shatteredtower]

Loki was the father of 3 kids

You forgot Nari and Vari. The gods turned the latter into a wolf that tore the former's throat out, and then Nari's entrails were used to bind Loki beneath the world. Ain't divine justice grand?

I'm pretty sure there are others.

[DBJack]

There are all sorts of variant rules that could be brought forward for the earlier editions.

What was the duration of haste, and was the year calculated in fractions?

I don't remember the duration, but I remember in the desription that the spell magically 'speeds up the metabolic activity of the target to the point that the factors of aging are also sped up and the target 'ages' about a year.'

Hmm, is the fetus controlled by the mother's metabolic activity, or does it do its own thing? I don't know this one. I presume the former for the first and maybe second trimester and the latter for the third.

Not that, as you said, it matters much for the early editions, or this could go on forever. I believe it was snuk in the description of Haste in second edition, I don't recall obeying that though. :smallwink:

[idrial10]

I read a book awhile back about a pregnant woman who could shapechange at will. Her fetus could, too, so she mostly sat around, changing shape below the waist every time the baby did.

I believe that book was called Trickster's Choice. I just finished reading it...:smallsmile: