Good and Evil in the Playground, 2009 Edition

[Lord Herman]

Good and Evil
in the Playground
2009 Edition

Main Thread | Nominations | Polls


The ...in the Playground contests returned with the 2009 edition of Good and Evil in the Playground. Once again the playground voted to see who's the goodest, evilest, and neutralest playgrounder.



Good in the Playground

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With 16 votes, Tempest Fennac is voted Goodest in the Playground!

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Thanatos 51-50 wins silver with 7 votes.

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Blue Ghost, who was first in the nominations, gets 6 votes, winning him a bronze trophy and a Magtok Award.



Neutral in the Playground

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Morty wins Neutral with 14 votes!

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With 7 votes, Moofin Bard ends second.

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Szilard wins bronze with 4 votes.



Evil in the Playground

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Kaelaroth is votes the Evilest with 15 votes!

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RabbitHoleLost wins silver with 7 votes and 9 tie-breaker votes.

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Grim ranger has 7 votes and 6 tie-breaker votes, and gets the bronze trophy.



GooNeutBil in the Playground

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With 19 votes, Atreyu the Masked LLama is voted GooNeutBilest!

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Lord Magtok ends second with 6 votes.

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happyturtle gets 4 votes, and wins bronze.

[Exeson]

I think I'll have a shot.

It's in the Blood (Again)

Well, first off it is fairly obvious that my persona is a werewolf, and as D&D (some claim fairly close-mindedly) states werewolves are always evil, chaotic evil to be precise. However, as all DM's know these kinds of things are more guidlines than rules, and as Drizzt Do'Urden has shown us simply belonging to a race of evil creatures does not automatically make you evil yourself. It is your actions that make you evil or good or sit on the fence.

So what about Exeson's actions? Exeson takes great pleasure in wantonly causing the destruction of others. Reference her to my avatar, that I have had now for .... around 1 year and 8 months. Let me remind you that Exeson is not only shoving his bare hand through a helpless NPC's chest but he is grinning whilst he does it. And just to put further emphasis on that, after Sneak, the amazing Avatarist did the first draft of this avatar I actually PM'ed him with the only change requested being:


Hey,

Could you perhaps give my avatar a bit more of a smile, make it look more amused?

Thanks,
Exeson

Now ask yourself how is that not Evil? That is pure chaotic evil right there, enjoying stabbing someone with your bare hand because you felt like it. So, to conclude: Evil, same as Lycanthropy, is in Exeson's blood, always has been and always will be.

Plus it is a well known fact that the dark side have cookies. ^_^

[Murska]

Maybe I should go for Good.

[Shadowcaller]

Maybe I should go for Good.

...No?
I can't just see you as good Murska, it goes against your nature.

[wxdruid]

Running for Neutral again, you'll either choose to vote for me or you won't. :smallamused:

[Morty]

Okay, it's on. I'm running for Neutral In The Playground.

[Andre Fairchilde]

I'd like to self-nominate for Good. If a bit chaotic.

[Tempest Fennac]

Being as I came 2nd for Good last year, do you guys think I should run again for that catagory or should I stay out of it this year?

[Atreyu the Masked LLama]

Being as I came 2nd for Good last year, do you guys think I should run again for that catagory or should I stay out of it this year?

The question is really "Did you have fun running for Good ITP?" If yes, go for it again. If no, then you probably shouldn't. These contests are supposed to be for fun and goodest is usually one of the more fun and argument free of these contests.

Oh wait...I'm supposed to be neutral. I mean, meh,do what ya want. I don't care.

That sounds good and neutrally, right?

[Reinholdt]

I refuse to subscribe to your alignment dictations!

That said, I thoroughly support M0rt for Neutral.

[Blue Ghost]

What is good?

Good is not just the opposite of evil. Good is not an arbitrary marker of one’s side in a cosmic conflict.

Good is a primal force, more powerful than anything else. Good is the standard of justice and morality. Good is love, peace, joy, everything that is necessary to life. Perfect Good is a lofty standard, which cannot be perfectly achieved, but which one can always strive toward, and which will mercifully offer aid to mortals striving for it.

I have fought for Good ever since I came to the Playground. When the Playground was threatened by the tyranny of D_Lord and his clones, I joined with the brave resistance of the Playground to fight for our Playground’s freedom. Since then, the tyrant D_Lord has time and again threatened to throw the Playground into chaos, and every time I helped the valiant Playgrounders to fight him off.

I continue to fight the good fight in SMBG every day, giving encouragement to my virtuous allies on the line, and take up the sword (or in my case, the staff) against evil when necessary.

I am not perfect. I face many temptations and pressures to stray from the path of Good, both within and without. Since I tasted of the Dark Side during Evil Twin Week in March, my inner demon has been lying in wait, constantly tempting me to succumb again to Evil. My nemesis in the Playground, D_Lord, has also repeatedly pressed upon me the temptation of evil. I have been derided by a rival as being Lawful Stupid, and pressured to step off the Lawful Good path. Yet despite these temptations, I continue to fight the good fight every day, against evil within and without.

Friends, you have seen my dedication and my zeal for the cause of Good. I submit myself to you, so that you can judge my efforts to see if I am worthy to be your champion of Good. If you have found me lacking, I will try my best to make myself worthy of your respect. But if you believe me to be worthy of the title, please vote Blue Ghost for Good in the Playground.

Thank you.

[Haruki-kun]

Being as I came 2nd for Good last year, do you guys think I should run again for that catagory or should I stay out of it this year?

I dunno, but I think I'm sitting this one out.

[FireFox]

Being as I came 2nd for Good last year, do you guys think I should run again for that catagory or should I stay out of it this year?

You'd have my support if you did. I'd run for Good myself, but I don't have a persona here or on the SMBG I can hide behind and use to demonstrate my goodness. I'm just me, with no real claims to being Good other than generally talking to people and trying to help them out.

[Blue Ghost]

Go for it, Fennac. With Saint Nil gone, we need all the active Good ones we can get. Plus, I'd love to see your Good side. (I don't know you all that well, unfortunately.)

[Tempest Fennac]

(FireFox, why would a persona matter if you actively try to help people? My stance is that it's more about how you act in real life then anything else.)


I consider my self to be a good candidate for Good itP on the grounds that I'm willing to attempt to help anyone who asks for it (I'm often limited to sending Reiki to people due to often being clueless as far as advice goes unless I've read something which could help, but it seems to work well enough when I send it to people). Also, I came 2nd last year, so that should probably count for something :smalltongue:.

[FireFox]

(FireFox, why would a persona matter if you actively try to help people? My stance is that it's more about how you act in real life then anything else.)


That's my stance too. However, in most of the contests I've participated in here, more people have been concerned with their personas and whatnot than with how you are in real life. Of course, considering that most people here only know each other through their personas and not how they are in real life, there is more than a little merit to that kind of judging.

[Tempest Fennac]

You may have a point there. Still, you may surprise youself if you enter this contest.

[Blue Ghost]

Where do you draw the line between the itP persona and real life? I based my itP persona on what I'm like in real life, though of course being RP, it's exaggerated a bit. In real life I'm quite zealous for good as well.
There are different facets of good. I prefer the activist role, actively fighting evil, but others show their goodness by helping others and leading by example. Neither is better than the other, and I think that both deserve equal credit.

[Lord Fullbladder, Master of Goblins]

*lights cigar*

Alright, kiddies. This here is what you call a democratic election. A popularity contest, I suppose. All you gotta do is choose who you think is a decent repesentation of evil in this fine peice of real estate we call the Playground. And I'm here to help you.

Now, I know what you're thinking. You're thinking "Hey, old dude, I already know this. I don't need you, get out of my face. This other dude I know is obviously Evil ITP."

Well, I'm here now, kid. I ain't moving. I am here to tell you that you are WRONG! There is only ONE choice this year in Evil. And his name is Fullbladder! Listen to my words, O Children, and know them to be true! There is no evil more recognizable, more stylish, more green in all the Playground! Other evils may be more of a threat but only the Fullbladder is forever!

When you use your democratic right to choose this years Evil In The Playground, there is only one name you need to remember, and that name is

Fullbladder
for Evil in the Playground



Brought to you by Fullbladder Manufactoring. If we don't make it, you can't have it.

[Atreyu the Masked LLama]

Its true, I'm rather Ebil in real life. I sent some pirates to attack a sleeping man once. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2kWRRtvg2Q) However, in true Ebil fashion, it didn't go so well.

[Tempest Fennac]

I pretty much act on here in the same way as I do in real life (I assumed the persona comment was refering to RPing characters).

[Kaelaroth]

Darkness is all there truly is. From humble beginnings, tiny seeds of sin in the "most holy" of minds, it lurks, insidious, whispering, dark, melodious, cruel. Many forms, yes, it takes. Do I really need, "good" sirs and madams to count down the names - so many more than simple, seductive seven? I am the epitome. I am not a simple, sad little Blue Ghost, hiding on the internet, espousing virtue. I am not a "lycanthrope", riddled with false promises, ersatz images, and internetted claims of "dark" ancestry. I am not a "threat" to this little, ugly land - no-one here truly is, I merely realise it. Neither am I like the last winner, a malady-ridden "cyborg", following genre conventions; fiction's insistent pleas as to what evil is. Lies. I am the most truthful of them all, I see the world, this playground, this feeble shell of nerd-dom for what it really is. A hub of sin.

Who, really, stands for "evil" - the acts of intentional injustice, selfishness, and negative moral thoughts? Who really lets the unhappy truth into his heart? Kaelaroth does. He sees, this, I see this (for I am him, no?), as the only way. It's not a happy way. Villainy is not the first dream of the baby, reaching coldly into the universe.

It is merely a nightmare made real, the harsh reality, the bright light of day. Or night.

Virtue is a front. Darkness is the truth. And I am the most truthful of them all, though you might not initially think it.

Vote Kaelaroth, for Evil in the Playground.

[Fan]

Its true, I'm rather Ebil in real life. I sent some pirates to attack a sleeping man once. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2kWRRtvg2Q) However, in true Ebil fashion, it didn't go so well.

That was adorable My good Llama, I do believe you have earned this digitized confectionary.

:hands Ateryu a cookie:

[Recaiden]

Well, I try to be good, but I usually end up doing evil. And isn't that worse than this "trying to be evil" junk?

I think that falls under evil. Maybe neutral. Or ebil or good.

@Kaela: The truth is at worst neutral. If it's a dark truth, so be it, but evil it can never claim to be.

[Blue Ghost]

Kaelaroth, your campaign speech was as creepy as, well, hell. That may earn you a lot of evil followers.

[FireFox]

Tempest: Maybe I'll come up with a speech later...

Blue Ghost: Where do I draw the line? Well, I guess you would say that I don't have a persona on here. I'm just FF, and you recognize me by a drawing of a fiery fox, or MacArthur on occasion. Of course, I don't really post anywhere else besides FFRP, and there I play a variety of characters that have nothing to do with my username or avatar. I don't pretend that this forum is anything but an awesome place for some people to talk about an incredibly broad spectrum of topics. I too prefer the activist approach to Good, however I have not had the chance to really get into that. I think of myself as being in training, using my childhood to learn the skills that will help me in my future career in Law Enforcement or the military; fighting evil and protecting the innocent.

[Morty]

An election speech explaining in detail why you all should vote me as Neutral ITP is on its way, as I'm feeling uninspired at the moment.

[Dallas-Dakota]

I, the cookiemonster have turned evil, BWAHAHAHAHAHA.

Piczors or it didn't happen!

Me just being there.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kXnVoQ9ZFkQ/Scwi_mHr33I/AAAAAAAAIjM/2H0Q-Icz2hc/s400/muppet-cookiemonster.jpg

I didn't really turn out well with all that fruit.

http://fliiby.com/images/_original/av0j3tqprm.jpg

I also did this add with Darth V for the Dark Side.

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I perfectly realise that there are other good foods other then cookies.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/7/71/EvilCM.jpg/180px-EvilCM.jpg

Here is a picture of a wannabe me.

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I even tried out to be red one time, since it's stereotypically used for evil.
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I also did this one article on poisons, Didn't really think it would get me on the cover, but guess what? It did!

http://www.whatjailislike.com/strangeplace/cookiemonster.jpg

My own version of Godzilla.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dxf84IFMrsw/SDRXG6Hp5qI/AAAAAAAAAoY/2NiyBmYHilQ/s400/cookiemonster.bmp

Check diz out, man!

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Guess what I'm about to do with Elmo?:smallamused:

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Ofcourse I'm also a pioneer in Death Metal. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWac5UT80no)


And if that didn't convince you, if you don't vote for me, I'l make sure you'l never see a cookie ever again and you'l be stuck with icky and yucky fruits!

And that's the start of day 1 for you then.

Really, all others just roleplay their evil or just kinda are uhh bad.

I do what I want, I'm free to do when I want. I'm not forcing it.
The glee, the satisfaction, the symphonical screams are music to my ears. I shudder in delight as all those screams sound so....betrayed, so...darkened...Like their soft dearest always innocent and good cookiemonster has been taken away from then, to precededly torture them with glee and gluttony, Revenge and Sodomy, Greed and Lust, oh I do believe I've named some multiple times. Oh I just delight so much in my evil.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA!

VOTE ME FOR EVIL ITP, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA....Hmmmmm Oh I shudder with delight as those musical screams filly my ears with pleasure.

[Atreyu the Masked LLama]

That was adorable My good Llama, I do believe you have earned this digitized confectionary.

:hands Ateryu a cookie:

NOMS! ...ummm...I mean...casually eats, indifferently.

Sigh....neutrality is hard, maybe I should come up with a different category for neutral and try to win that.

Vote Atreyu for Gooneutvil!!

^ Awesome!

[Exeson]

I am not a "lycanthrope", riddled with false promises, ersatz images, and internetted claims of "dark" ancestry.

Dude, I find your challenge highly amusing. What a coincidence that we will get the chance to settle this affair tomorrow. I will remember to bring my studded gloves.

:smallamused:

[Kaelaroth]

Dude, I find your challenge highly amusing. What a coincidence that we will get the chance to settle this affair tomorrow. I will remember to bring my studded gloves.

:smallamused:

You're going to bring your studded gloves. And, supposedly, validate your claims, by punching through my chest, an act of unutterable evil, purely because of my words?

My point is proven.
I inspire darkness. Don't fear. My work will live on in the hearts of many. Darkness lives on forever.

[Dallas-Dakota]

Your post made me giggle.:smallsmile:

[Szilard]

Hey guys. I'm Szilard, they guy who sometimes manages to get people to vote for him.

I'm usually a good guy, but understand some villainy. That might make me neutral. Plus, Pirates are cool. Not too bad, not too good. Neutral. I'm not saying I'm a pirate (maybe...) but I'm pretty neutral. So vote for me. Or for good. If you feel like it.

[Morty]

Okay, campaign speech time.

I won't bore you with the "balance in all things" nonsense. I'll leave it to those guys who walk around in forest hugging trees. Instead, I'll explain to you why I feel neutrality is the path I walk and why I'm the best when it comes to it.
See, I think you'll agree with me that this whole "alignment" business is rather tedious, right? All those labels that serve little more than to provide an excuse for Good people to kill Evil people - they Evil ones don't need an excuse, of course. I don't want to have a label on me that explains who I am and where I stand. Which is why I choose Neutrality. As a Neutral person, I can do what I want as long as it doesn't tip the scales too much - but why should it, if the most optimal way is to stay right in the middle? I play the "Good Guys" and "Bad Guys" against each other and laugh as they smack each other, leaving me alone.
Now, what makes me better than all other Neutral fellows out there? Because I stand true by the spirit of Neutrality and don't attach too much philosophy to it. I just do what benefits me and my friends the most and keeps things nice and orderly in a warm, fuzzy status quo.
So vote Mort(or Morty if I get around to changing the name) for Neutral ITP.

[Exeson]

You're going to bring your studded gloves. And, supposedly, validate your claims, by punching through my chest, an act of unutterable evil, purely because of my words?

My point is proven.
I inspire darkness. Don't fear. My work will live on in the hearts of many. Darkness lives on forever.

It seems I must prove myself a worthy thinker rather than just some thug.

It seems to me my friend that you are basing your claim on evil by the fact that you create Evil around you, you manipulate people to do evil and therefore by extension are Evil.

But therefore I pose this question, surely that merely suggest some sort of Aloof arrogance and a level of detachment rather than Evil? You are distancing yourself from the act were as I, who regards such tricks as pointless cut straight to the chase and just commit the Evil deed.

I just make thing hurt because I can.

[Dallas-Dakota]

Truly, you're just some minor villains.

I cause pain in the heart.
I cause pain in the spirit.
I cause pain in the body.
I cause pain in the mind.

I do it whenever I feel like it, oh the broken and betrayed looks upon what's left of their faces pleasures me so.

Really, you guys are waaay to much over proving to yourself to some ...fools....that you're more evil then some other person.

I must say, good job, for some lesser evils.

[Szilard]

I'm so neutral, I won't even post anymore in this thread.

I won't nominate anyone either.

Or vote for anyone.

Just that neutral.

Though if you feel like nominating or voting for me, go ahead.:smallwink:

[horngeek]

Vote for me, Good in the Playground

True, I might not be as old a champion of good as others, but I offer several points as to why.

First, I'm a Gold Dragon. Nuff' said.

Second, along with Blue Ghost and Tempest Fennac, I have been a fighter for Good in the Playground.

Third, I am a nice person.

Vote For Horngeek- his scales are shiny!

[Recaiden]

My point is proven.
I inspire darkness. Don't fear. My work will live on in the hearts of many. Darkness lives on forever.

But you also inspire good, and hope, and change. Surely this is the mark of neutrality to cause and embody such varied things.

Anyway, vote Recaiden for Neutral in the playground. He's doing the best he can.

[Kaelaroth]

But you also inspire good, and hope, and change. Surely this is the mark of neutrality to cause and embody such varied things.

Anyway, vote Recaiden for Neutral in the playground. He's doing the best he can.

Good, and hope? When do I inspire these things, deary? :smallconfused: Other than to crush them down later. And change is rarely a good thing, sweetpea.
And it amuses with, fills me with a form of pleasure, perhaps, that you're attempting to position me directly against you.
Sorry, it's not going to happen. I don't like to associate with "try-ers". It's another way of saying you're failing.


Truly, you're just some minor villains.

I cause pain in the heart.
I cause pain in the spirit.
I cause pain in the body.
I cause pain in the mind.

I do it whenever I feel like it, oh the broken and betrayed looks upon what's left of their faces pleasures me so.

Really, you guys are waaay to much over proving to yourself to some ...fools....that you're more evil then some other person.

I must say, good job, for some lesser evils.

Yeah, right. Most I've seen, you're wailing at someone for being mean in a thread, or scoffing down cookies with childish agility, and perhaps a hint of naivety, too. I laugh as they ruin your figure.


It seems I must prove myself a worthy thinker rather than just some thug.

It seems to me my friend that you are basing your claim on evil by the fact that you create Evil around you, you manipulate people to do evil and therefore by extension are Evil.

But therefore I pose this question, surely that merely suggest some sort of Aloof arrogance and a level of detachment rather than Evil? You are distancing yourself from the act were as I, who regards such tricks as pointless cut straight to the chase and just commit the Evil deed.

I just make thing hurt because I can.

And I make things hurt because I want to. There is dedication to my deeds, rather than wanton ignorance. And, once again, it seems in trying to prove yourself as a mind, rather than a mere handsome, blood-stained face, you fail in such terms - my work is not tricks.
Tricks; illusions, or acts of misdirection, derived from the Old Dutch "to draw" up something false, is hardly my deed.
I am truthful, that is all.

[Morty]

I'm so neutral, I won't even post anymore in this thread.

I won't nominate anyone either.

Or vote for anyone.

Just that neutral.

Though if you feel like nominating or voting for me, go ahead.:smallwink:

Now, this? This isn't Neutrality, it's apathy.

[Dallas-Dakota]

Yeah, right. Most I've seen, you're wailing at someone for being mean in a thread, or scoffing down cookies with childish agility, and perhaps a hint of naivety, too. I laugh as they ruin your figure.
Ofcourse, so they can be crushed for my amusement in private later.
It's far more amusing to see their faces fall in betrayal and sadness then just some ignorant pain.

[Kaelaroth]

Ofcourse, so they can be crushed for my amusement in private later.
It's far more amusing to see their faces fall in betrayal and sadness then just some ignorant pain.

D'aww. How sweet - you mimic my words. It's like the little boy wants to play with 'da big boyssss!


Now, this? This isn't Neutrality, it's apathy.

Can you prove a practical difference? Not a challenge, merely intrigue. Ultimately, if you choose not to have any side in a conflict, it'll well likely look precisely identikit to just.. not taking a side?

[Morty]

Can you prove a practical difference? Not a challenge, merely intrigue. Ultimately, if you choose not to have any side in a conflict, it'll well likely look precisely identikit to just.. not taking a side?

There's a vast gulf between consciously staying between warring factions without joining either and simply doing nothing and expecting nothing.

[Blue Ghost]

Anyway, vote Recaiden for Neutral in the playground. He's doing the best he can.

I know you, Recaiden. You're good, not neutral. You're just as dedicated a fighter for Good as I am. However you end up doing evil, you are still Good. Everyone has weaknesses.

[Kaelaroth]

There's a vast gulf between consciously staying between warring factions without joining either and simply doing nothing and expecting nothing.

Yes. Not debating that.
Asking, practically, what difference would there be? Apart from what you claim you're doing which is that you:

play the "Good Guys" and "Bad Guys" against each other
But, really, how would you do that? Without, on some minor level, falling into one side's advantage. Because, let's face it, we've seen that those fighting for Good and Evil on this competition aren't chumps, and so might not be so easily fooled without something they want, no?

[Dallas-Dakota]

D'aww. How sweet - you mimic my words. It's like the little boy wants to play with 'da big boyssss!
I must have glossed over some insignificant post of yours then, or a lot of them, anyway. Since I've never seen you act nice, get inside their guards, and make friends here. You even proclaimed to have a aura of darkness or make people evil.

Anyway, if you want to believe that you're original, feel free to try.

[Morty]

Yes. Not debating that.
Asking, practically, what difference would there be? Apart from what you claim you're doing which is that you:

But, really, how would you do that? Without, on some minor level, falling into one side's advantage. Because, let's face it, we've seen that those fighting for Good and Evil on this competition aren't chumps, and so might not be so easily fooled without something they want, no?

The key is for Neutrality to become a faction in itself that both Good and Evil find more useful to have around than not and that can pursue its own interests and protect those who wish to live in peace from the endless squabbles of "Good" and "Evil". Szilard advocates laying around and doing nothing while Good and Evil have all the cards, so to speak.

[Kaelaroth]

I must have glossed over some insignificant post of yours then, or a lot of them, anyway. Since I've never seen you act nice, get inside their guards, and make friends here. You even proclaimed to have a aura of darkness or make people evil.
Yeah, seems like a trait you have. Not noticing things.
Not even bothering to, even. Pretty apathetic. You don't even have the Exeson excuse of being chaotic, you're just, well. Apathetic. And which alignment's using that excuse...?
... Oh, yeah. Not the one you so childishly proclaim you sing about.


Anyway, if you want to believe that you're original, feel free to try.
Nothing's original. All is derivative - some is merely more derivative than others (and that's you, fruit-loops!).


The key is for Neutrality to become a faction in itself that both Good and Evil find more useful to have around than not and that can pursue its own interests and protect those who wish to live in peace from the endless squabbles of "Good" and "Evil". Szilard advocates laying around and doing nothing while Good and Evil have all the cards, so to speak.

Intriguing enough. I'll bear you in mind.

[Murska]

The key is for Neutrality to become a faction in itself that both Good and Evil find more useful to have around than not and that can pursue its own interests and protect those who wish to live in peace from the endless squabbles of "Good" and "Evil". Szilard advocates laying around and doing nothing while Good and Evil have all the cards, so to speak.

Heh. I remember trying to kill everyone but the team of Neutrals I was gathering in USB... Such a pity it didn't work out. :smalltongue:

[Dallas-Dakota]

Yeah, seems like a trait you have. Not noticing things.
Not even bothering to, even. Pretty apathetic. You don't even have the Exeson excuse of being chaotic, you're just, well. Apathetic. And which alignment's using that excuse...?
... Oh, yeah. Not the one you so childishly proclaim you sing about.
Just because I don't care about some petty squables doesn't mean I'm apathetic. There are some far more interesting people here.
I cause pain, betrayal and more then the sins if I feel like it, because it gives me pleasure. In the meanwhile I just keep up the act of being nice and all so that the pain of betrayal will be bigger for them later. Which will give me more pleasure. And when I have my fun is when I feel like it.

Instead of some petty ''evil'' dude who's like ''blargh, me evil, blargh I don't care and ain't nice, blargh''
I suppose some lines or text was where the blargh was, but I honestly couldn't be bothered to read some petty attempts at claiming that you're evil.

[Reinholdt]

I like how DD keeps secretly endorsing Kaela for Evil. Ingenious. :smallbiggrin:

[Szilard]

I decide not to post, then an evil and "neutral" guy start a smallish argument. What does that tell us?:smalltongue:

[Kaelaroth]

I like how DD keeps secretly endorsing Kaela for Evil. Ingenious. :smallbiggrin:

Indeed.
*strokes evil kittehcat*

[Dallas-Dakota]

Secretly?:smallconfused:

[Moofin Bard]

*clears throat*

I have decided to run for Neutral itP as a celebration of my returning to the forums.

I've got a little bit of good and a little bit of evil in me.

Sure I've stolen my fair share of candy from unsuspecting babies. And yeah, I might have put razorblades in my halloween candy last year.

But I've also freed poor innocent animals in the middle of the forests. And I also singlehandedly saved a species from becoming extinct.

(Not really done any of those things. But it's from the POV of my speech.)

So while I am neither good nor evil, I have made a life of living in the tiny sliver in between that is neutral. Thank you.

[happyturtle]

So which is the category for people who are either good, evil, or neutral depending on what role PM they get? Because that's the one I am. Just liek my dad. :smallbiggrin:

[Exeson]

Hmmm, Kael and DD, interesting.

I can see the competition is very strong, I like that.

Kael, I look forward to seeing what the rest of the boards think, and after the results, no matter the outcome, I will destroy you with the most powerful weapon at Evil's disposal: Love. Then we will see what your web of secrets is like.



So which is the category for people who are either good, eBil, or annoying depending on how much alcohol they have drunk? Because that's the one I am.:smallbiggrin:
It's me IRL! ^_^ :smalltongue:

[Mordokai]

I keep Cristo and banjo in check. What more proof do you need? :smalltongue:

Vote me for good in the playground! :smallbiggrin:

[Kaelaroth]

Kael, I look forward to seeing what the rest of the boards think, and after the results, no matter the outcome, I will destroy you with the most powerful weapon at Evil's disposal: Love. Then we will see what your web of secrets is like.

Y'gonna fall in love wimme? :smalltongue::smallconfused:

[Moofin Bard]

Interestingly enough I have no idea who to vote for.

Lets watch. *eats popcorn*

[Dallas-Dakota]

You should vote for me, ofcourse.

Because did any of those guys give you pics as proof? I don't think so.

[Exeson]

You should vote for me, ofcourse.

Because did any of those guys give you pics as proof? I don't think so.

Technically I did, *points to Avatar*


Y'gonna fall in love wimme? :smalltongue::smallconfused:

Why the use of future tense? :smalltongue:

[Moofin Bard]

Hmm I should have Quinsar make a picture of me with a razor blade and a puppy. True though. No one else has posted pictures. I will keep you in mind if you keep me in mind.

[Kaelaroth]

Why the use of future tense? :smalltongue:

Nice try. :smalltongue:


Because did any of those guys give you pics as proof? I don't think so.

And, what's more, they're all mine. Not things I used because the bland persona I took on's common.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/Cymru_Lad/Kaelaroth.pnghttp://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn217/Holammer/test5.pnghttp://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/solarturtle/pixies.png
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/solarturtle/bizarro2-1.pnghttp://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/solarturtle/bizarro-1.pnghttp://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3676/kaelarothgb4lm5.pnghttp://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/solarturtle/bizarro2.pnghttp://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/solarturtle/bizarro.png
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/solarturtle/pixiefly.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/Cymru_Lad/Kaelaroth2.pnghttp://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll99/Kwarkpudding/Keal.png

[Moofin Bard]

Oooh baby Kaely.

That dominatrix looking girl is something else.

You are on my mind as well.

[Kaelaroth]

That dominatrix looking girl is something else.

Call her Kaela. :smallwink:

[Grim ranger]

Finally, a contest in which I can actually exell! Expect bloodthirsty campaign speech coming soon, my comrades, do-gooders and just those caught in the way of my swirling blades! Muahahahahaaaa! :smallamused:

[Moofin Bard]

Mreow.

I just wanna win something cuz I only have one tiiiiiny trophy.
There were only like three entries in that category anyway.

*points to siggy*

God damn dog barking next door. I want to wring it's neck. But that would be evil.

[Kaelaroth]

Finally, a contest in which I can actually exell! Expect bloodthirsty campaign speech coming soon, my comrades, do-gooders and just those caught in the way of my swirling blades! Muahahahahaaaa! :smallamused:

Oh, this will certainly be amusing to watch. Your smiley's correct.

[Dallas-Dakota]

Nice characters, they must be feeling great, you know with some fresh air and new sights out of FFRP.

[Moofin Bard]

*bites*

My Rose character in FFRP is chaotic neutral. Everyone else is good. Blegh.

Well Niamh isn't but she's a poor confused individual.

[Kaelaroth]

Nice characters, they must be feeling great, you know with some fresh air and new sights out of FFRP.
How woefully uninformed. Why don't you think, for once, before you say? :smallsigh: The robed halflings are my old standards, the "dominatrix" my gender-bender, the faerie my more recent standards, the lightning-wielder is a favourite television character, the death-blade wielder one from a novel, and it should be obvious who Bizarro is, and why I appreciate him. :sigh:

[TFT]

Alright, I'm going to be crazy, and campaign for good.

Now, some of you might be thinking, "Who is this person?" Well then, Hi, I am The Fiery Tower(Formally known as Catseye2121)

I am campaigning for Good in the playground because I am just doing as a tower does. What a tower does is protect people. Anyone who enters gets protection from weather, enemies, and nature. That is what good is to me, helping people out. Not just the action of good, but being able to do the little things to help people out. Like giving them shelter for the night, or being a big sign of hope when people see it.(For example, if they are running from some of the more evil characters here in the playground)

So vote for The Fiery Tower - defender and protecter of all.

[wxdruid]

Neutral is the only way to go...

[Dallas-Dakota]

*pokecoughBarad-Durcoughpoke*

Kaeala, the last three: And you say I took on a persona? You stole multiple ones.
It's as bland as you want it to be.

Also why indeed, would I think before I post? It would most certainly make things more boring. You'd certainly have wandered off after having (what you view as) sufficiently bashed Exeson.

Not to mention, that all this argueing is actually doing both of us more popularity in these contests.

[Mordokai]

Neutral is the only way to go...

Oh hell no!

With all due respect, of course :smalltongue:

[Recaiden]

Alright, I'm going to be crazy, and campaign for good.

Now, some of you might be thinking, "Who is this person?" Well then, Hi, I am The Fiery Tower(Formally known as Catseye2121)

So vote for The Fiery Tower - defender and protecter of all.

Do it! He's a good person. Although if Bor runs again. . . :smalleek:

Anyway, I've been convinced. Kaela being evil it is. Look, he even makes people set animals on fire:
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm316/RockShade/KaelaPinkMustelid.png

[Moofin Bard]

I wanna fight with someone for popularity!

*slaps Recaiden*

Oh dear Im terribly sorry.

*gives him a band aid*

[wxdruid]

Oh hell no!

With all due respect, of course :smalltongue:

Yes...you better be respectful Mordokai. :smallamused:

[Mordokai]

Or else...

[Boo]

Destruction is a simple thing... it can be brought on by anyone. Evil has no claim over it, and to think so is rather plain. As with our fairest Kael, I enjoy my time using influence. Evil is within all of us. We just have to look deeply, mindfully. Discuss with yourself, your inner being, which alignment you prefer. It does wonders for the complexion, you know. Yes, though being Good is also a bit fun sometimes. It really depends on your perspective of both. If you kill evil doers, you're good. If you kill goodies, you're bad. What if your opinion differs? What if you consider it the other way around? What then? Is it still wrong? I would think not! A goody killing a goody is only as evil as one perceives, and the perceiver is the one with all the power.

Blue, a colour of calmness, yet the sea is a very violent thing. Why do I mention it? I haven't a clue. I like sailing, perhaps?

I mustn't rush your eyes. They're very fragile. Take care of them, will you? I may take them one day, and I'd hate for them to be damaged. They'll sell for less, you know. As will your liver and lungs. Do breathe well for the time that you have.

Where was I? I wasn't anywhere... Perhaps here? No, that was where I was last week. Oh, that ring is back. 'Ding dong ding dong' It's maddening. Kaela? Do you hear them? Would you like to? Perhaps DD... I could show you too. Exeson? Your ears... you don't find the bells; the bells find you.

For those of you too lazy to read this: It doesn't matter.

[wxdruid]

*smirks* at Mordokai

[Mordokai]

*smirks* at Mordokai

...I'm either gonna like this very much or it's going to hurt me for the rest of my miserable life...

[Blue Ghost]

Mordokai, I'm still unsure of what alignment you actually are currently. Care to enlighten me?

[Lord Fullbladder, Master of Goblins]

*shrug*

I wasn't all that serious, anyway. I'm a villain. Doesn't necessarily make me evil, and I'm not all that evil.

BUT! I will return, when my time is right once more! (when Heores and Villains is reduxed! Aaaaaahhahaaa!)

You have not seen the last of FULLBLADDER!

*vanishes in a puff of smoke*

Smoke brought to you by Fullbladder Manufactoring.

[happyturtle]

Draken Frosthand, being all evil and stuffs, enslaved me and ordered me to campaign on his behalf.

So vote for Draken for Evil itp! Because he's evil! Even though Kaela is pretty evil too and I'm not sure which one to vote for....

...

But don't tell Draken I said that, or he'll use the whip again. :smalleek:

[Mordokai]

Mordokai, I'm still unsure of what alignment you actually are currently. Care to enlighten me?

Right now? Chaotic Horny will do it, me thinks.

I'm taking guesses for the next best category, though :smallbiggrin:

[Recaiden]

I wanna fight with someone for popularity!

*slaps Recaiden*

Oh dear Im terribly sorry.

*gives him a band aid*
It's alright.
But, bring it on, um, what's the word for ACRO members?
* knocks down *
* helps back up *

[PirateMonk]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/Cymru_Lad/Kaelaroth.pnghttp://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn217/Holammer/test5.pnghttp://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/solarturtle/pixies.png
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/solarturtle/bizarro2-1.pnghttp://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/solarturtle/bizarro-1.pnghttp://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3676/kaelarothgb4lm5.pnghttp://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/solarturtle/bizarro2.pnghttp://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/solarturtle/bizarro.png
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/solarturtle/pixiefly.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/Cymru_Lad/Kaelaroth2.pnghttp://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll99/Kwarkpudding/Keal.png

None of these are proof of evil, at least without context.

[Selrahc]

it should be obvious who Bizarro is, and why I appreciate him. :sigh:

Bizarro isn't really evil though. He just doesn't operate under human morals.

[Moofin Bard]

Psh if we used that argument we could also say that demons aren't evil.

And stuff like that.

Actually ignore me I don't know what I'm saying. I think being knocked down messed with my brain. Or was the world always so pink?

[FireFox]

All right; I'm throwing in for GooditP. There is no symbolism to my username (unless one were to make an arguement about how fire purifies, but come on), I don't have a persona here that "fights for Good" to "protect the Playground", and even in the FFRP group I'm not well known. However, I live by the Boy Scout slogan: Do a Good Turn Daily. Every day I attempt to do at least one good deed; to help somebody. Online I listen to the upset rants of my friends and just be there for them. I help out anyone who comes to me with a problem, and I generally just try to support everyone I can. I make peoples' problems my problem, and I use sympathy to help them however I can. I don't know how good I am at that, but I try.
As I mentioned before, I'm too young to really fight Evil. I have never had the chance or opportunity to face Evil, but I am confident that I will always do my best to fight cruelty and inhumanity wherever I find it.
Vote FireFox for Good in the Playground. He'll never let you down.

[Moofin Bard]

I am totally voting you FF.

:smallbiggrin: :smallredface: :smalltongue:

[horngeek]

Oh no...

I see me not getting GooditP now. All of the other candidates are better known than moi.

But, I still reference this as proof that I am Good:

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h287/serpentine16/Avatarables/golddragonLg-1.gif

Because remember, Dragons are color coded for your convenience.

[Kaelaroth]

None of these are proof of evil, at least without context.

Of course not, doll!
But I've offered lots as well.


Where was I? I wasn't anywhere... Perhaps here? No, that was where I was last week. Oh, that ring is back. 'Ding dong ding dong' It's maddening. Kaela? Do you hear them? Would you like to? Perhaps DD... I could show you too. Exeson? Your ears... you don't find the bells; the bells find you.

For those of you too lazy to read this: It doesn't matter.

Please. You can't word-wall me. After all, matey (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd7z70nCbtc&feature=PlayList&p=DE72CADCEE18BDF8&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=9)...

[EleventhHour]

Ooh. Good versus Evil...

IN THE PLAYGROUND.

*volunteers to write short stories about the battles?*
>.>

[banjo1985]

Well, Custard's a maniacal genius, and I'm pretty much Chaotic Stupid, so safe to say I'm sitting this one out.

[Morty]

I think I'll need a banner to show y'all that the other competitiors for Neutral Itp are no match for me. It'd be my avatar standing with a heavy bag of money in one hand and a crossbow in the other on top of a paladin with a pickaxe in his back and an evil cultist with a crossbow bolt in his face.

[Lord Herman]

But if you're willing to kill someone just for the sake of winning a contest, doesn't that make you evil?

[Morty]

But if you're willing to kill someone just for the sake of winning a contest, doesn't that make you evil?

If you're talking to me, I don't kill people for the sake of winning a contest. I kill both good and evil people because that's what Neutrals do.

[Boo]

Please. You can't word-wall me. After all, matey (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd7z70nCbtc&feature=PlayList&p=DE72CADCEE18BDF8&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=9)...

Is that a proposal? I'm flattered (and very tempted) but I must decline. We're worlds apart. You're full of evil, and I'm full of chaos. We'd never work out. Or I wouldn't. Or she wouldn't... who's she--you're proposing, and already cheating on me?! You evil bastard! I'll never trust you again!

[Dallas-Dakota]

If you're talking to me, I don't kill people for the sake of winning a contest. I kill both good and evil people because that's what Neutrals do.
Umm...That's what evil people do...

[wxdruid]

I think I'll be agreeing with Lord Herman... How does carrying a large bag (with who knows what actually in it) with dead people around you show neutral? To me it screams evil. Willing to do whatever it takes to get whatever you want.

[Boo]

That rings true for the goodies too. Some will do whatever it takes to reach their goal. Even if it means killing a comrade that they didn't really like too much, and was named Steve.

[Thanatos 51-50]

Alright, let us throw my metaphorical hat in the metaphorical ring for the metaphorical gold trophy.
I am running for Good in the Playground. Now - I know I'm not popular, and for some reason, people seem to think I'm Evil, which totally baffles me.
Heck, I got a smite Evil attempt blown on me in Kiss or Kill.

I'm not that smart a guy, even. I do know a few things, though. What is good, what is Evil, and how to cherish the growing rarity of the former and shoot the latter in the face.
Let's face it, Evil is manipulative ad self-serving, and at Evil's heart, that's all it will ever be, no amount of preaching about Redemption is going to change that blackened heart. Shooting it in the face is A) Cheap, B) Efficent, and C) can scare the other Evil things into behaving.

I'm not a fan of scaring people into Goodness (and further exposition in this paragraph is self-censored as per forum rules).

Good needs a man to fight for it. It's ugly, and not many good people will agree with it, but it does need to be done.
Vote Thanatos for Good.
Solving Evil by shooting it in the face.

(Oh, and I'm also pretty altrustic in the 'real life' thing. But I'm not linking ypu the statements, as they have my SSN and stuff on them)

[Blue Ghost]

@M0rt: Killing people for selfish reasons is Evil, regardless of the alignment of the person killed. I think you're under the misconception that Good vs. Evil is just Red vs. Blue, and Neutral is in between. It doesn't work like that. Good and Evil are cosmic forces which govern all actions. You cannot just pick a side and fight for it, you have to prove yourself by your actions. Something like what you do is evil, even if you do it in the name of neutrality.

@Boo: The action you described is evil. True, some good people will do it, because no one is perfect, but it is still an evil action.

@Thanatos: Solving evil... by shooting it in the face? I suppose that's one way to get it done, and I suppose it qualifies (marginally) as Good. But you should know that while the force of Evil is irredeemable, most individual evil people are not beyond the reach of redemption. Even if the chance is slim, compassion should always be the first response of a fighter for Good.

[Thanatos 51-50]

@Thanatos: Solving evil... by shooting it in the face? I suppose that's one way to get it done, and I suppose it qualifies (marginally) as Good. But you should know that while the force of Evil is irredeemable, most individual evil people are not beyond the reach of redemption. Even if the chance is slim, compassion should always be the first response of a fighter for Good.

No. They're not. The individual Evils will rarely, if ever see the errors of their ways. They will rarely relise there is anything wrong with what they're doing. They will see only that what they're doing is working out the best for them, and forget everyone else. You provide negetive reinforcement for Evil (by shooting it in the face).

[Blue Ghost]

There may be a point in what you're saying, but I find that it's better for the cause of Good if you extend a hand of friendship (with prudent suspicion, of course) to people who claim to be evil. Positive reinforcement for Good works wonders, and even if it doesn't get the evil one to redeem, it may convince others of the rightness of our cause. Yes, some evils are clearly irredeemable, and should be shot in the face, but you shouldn't be too trigger-happy about it.

[FireFox]

I have to agree with Blue Ghost here. I prefer the course of action of calmly and diplomatically notifying wrongdoers that what they are doing is bad first, and that there will be consequences. Depending on how they react to that, you can plan further courses of action. Of course, I would never just take to the streets and start shooting up every bad guy who laughed at me if I told him to quit whatever act of evil he was currently engaged in. I would prefer talking first and, if the situation escalates, to use nonlethal means.

[Thanatos 51-50]

There may be a point in what you're saying, but I find that it's better for the cause of Good if you extend a hand of friendship (with prudent suspicion, of course) to people who claim to be evil. Positive reinforcement for Good works wonders, and even if it doesn't get the evil one to redeem, it may convince others of the rightness of our cause. Yes, some evils are clearly irredeemable, and should be shot in the face, but you shouldn't be too trigger-happy about it.

Those who can be redeemed will come asking for it, and for guidance along the Righteous Path. Than you can guide them. Those that do not genuinely seek redemption cannot recieve it.
Postivie reinforcement for good is something that's harder to quantify and qualify. After all, you do that and Neutrals roll in to scam some away, whilst the Goodest of the Good will not mention what they've done, beause they know that the Good of all is it's own reward.
I'll reward the good when the chance comes by.


I have to agree with Blue Ghost here. I prefer the course of action of calmly and diplomatically notifying wrongdoers that what they are doing is bad first, and that there will be consequences. Depending on how they react to that, you can plan further courses of action. Of course, I would never just take to the streets and start shooting up every bad guy who laughed at me if I told him to quit whatever act of evil he was currently engaged in. I would prefer talking first and, if the situation escalates, to use nonlethal means.

Niccolo Machievelli has something to say on this subject. It's that Unarmed profits are less effective than armed ones.
What you suggested would get me shot. And I can't help people or punish the wicked as a corpse.
I'm Good. I'm not a bright-eyed optimist.

[FireFox]

Niccolo Machievelli has something to say on this subject. It's that Unarmed profits are less effective than armed ones.
What you suggested would get me shot. And I can't help people or punish the wicked as a corpse.
I'm Good. I'm not a bright-eyed optimist.

So you're basically using the words of an old political manipulating man who believed in the State over the Individual to justify sticking a gun in somebody's face while you tell them to quit being Evil? Don't get me wrong here, I'm not a naive child either. But there's a difference between dealing with movie villains, who laugh as they shoot somebody for no smart reason, and the everyday villains, who can be reasoned with based on their motives. Real people who commit acts of cruelty and inhumanity are not liable to shoot somebody who tries to stop them.
Unless, of course, you do face the movie villains, in which case I salute your reasonable efforts and let you do your work without interference.

[Atreyu the Masked LLama]

Vote Atreyu for Gooneutbil!! (Good, neutral, ebil)

Why win all three categories over three years, when you can win all of them at once??

[Dallas-Dakota]

I also promote anarchy!


Yeah, I'm a bit schizophrenic...

[Morty]

@M0rt: Killing people for selfish reasons is Evil, regardless of the alignment of the person killed. I think you're under the misconception that Good vs. Evil is just Red vs. Blue, and Neutral is in between. It doesn't work like that. Good and Evil are cosmic forces which govern all actions. You cannot just pick a side and fight for it, you have to prove yourself by your actions. Something like what you do is evil, even if you do it in the name of neutrality.

Yeah, yeah, right. I've heard all this before, but it doesn't change a bit in the fact that Good and Evil are just labels on two opposing factions. Your philosophical mumbo-jumbo certainly doesn't make all those goblins killed because of their race less dead.
Though I'll concede the point that dead people around are more evil than neutral. Thus, instead of a dead paladin and a dead cultist, the two will glare at each other above my avatar's head. Of course, it doesn't mean that you can't be Neutral and kill people. But being Neutral is about being flexible, not rigid and stubborn like Goods and Evils.
However, it should be noted - before someone says that I've been easily swayed or something - that the message of the banner remains the same: Neutral is between Good and Evil and treats them equally.

[Thanatos 51-50]

Real people who commit acts of cruelty and inhumanity are not liable to shoot somebody who tries to stop them.

If you approach them with an open hand and a smile, they'll lie and return to the villany when you turn your back.
If you approach with threats of violence, they'll return to their way the moment you show compassion.

Shooting them in the face, is of course, an extrapolation of the most extreme circumstances. But you must punish them, you must detroy what their Evil deeds have built.

[FireFox]

If you approach them with an open hand and a smile, they'll lie and return to the villany when you turn your back.
If you approach with threats of violence, they'll return to their way the moment you show compassion.

Shooting them in the face, is of course, an extrapolation of the most extreme circumstances. But you must punish them, you must detroy what their Evil deeds have built.

Perhaps you are right. Perhaps you have more first hand experience with fighting Evil than I do, right now. If this is the case, instead of trying to argue, I believe my time would be better spent learning your views on the world and adapting them as I need to. Because I'm not ready to fight Evil now, at this point in my life, and you are. So I shall take what you say under consideration. And I shall continue doing Good in the only way I can right now: helping others as much as possible.

[Thanatos 51-50]

Perhaps you are right. Perhaps you have more first hand experience with fighting Evil than I do, right now. If this is the case, instead of trying to argue, I believe my time would be better spent learning your views on the world and adapting them as I need to. Because I'm not ready to fight Evil now, at this point in my life, and you are. So I shall take what you say under consideration. And I shall continue doing Good in the only way I can right now: helping others as much as possible.

Helping others is also a just and noble goal. I come from a military lineage, and this has tinted my views on the world and how to defeat Evil.
Lending a helping hand is an excellent way to further Good, and is certainly something I do not shy from.
Seriously, you should see all the money I've sent to the Red Cross and the ACS over the years. It's not enough, but it's the best I can do.

[Boo]

@Boo: The action you described is evil. True, some good people will do it, because no one is perfect, but it is still an evil action.

Bah, shows what you know. It's only as bad as you make it out to be, and you've always been so very black and white. Why not limbo with me? I'm blind to morals, you see. I don't know what's good or bad, but I DO know what's bad and good. Killing is bad and good. Killing for money is bad and good. Killing to win is bad and good. It's all about perspective.

(Must I visit opium bars so often?)

Thanatos... has an excuse. His name is that of Death. 51-50 regime? My granddad was in that one. perhaps you heard of him? Charon. Very popular name, that one.

[Tempest Fennac]

Regarding how to deal with evil, I'd say diplomacy is better then violence but sadly that isn't always practical, or it doesn't work.

[Thanatos 51-50]

The best way to deal with a festering boil is to lance it, not ask it to please stop.

[Grim ranger]

Playgrounders, I am here to run for, you guessed it, Evil itp. Why, you ask, should I receive such a title? The answer is simple: because I deserve it.

When I first came to the playground, I was miserable nobody with ambitions of making name for himself. You have seen my duels with Fred, my nemesis (dark gods curse his name), and my daily toil to bring as much death, chaos and despair to the playground as I can manage, and never have I let go of my noble ideals to destroy everything in sight and beyond it. Unlike some of my comrades in evil, I never had innocent start or ambitions to make the world better place: I was evil from day one and enjoyed every minute of it (exept of course the reversed alignment week, which I will not speak of more in this speech). For those who claim their evil was caused by outside forces and whine that they have been "made" evil, I can say only this: stop making fool out of yourselves and get back to work, or face eternity as miserable nobodies :smalltongue:. Evil is my objective, my life is dedicated to it, and it is the only goal I never abannon or forget for single moment. Being evil made me who I am, and I embrace that existence. Evil is what I live and breathe for, and due to this fact alone I deserve
to be known what I am.

I have committed pretty much every attrocity known to good guys, and actively seek to find new and interesting ones. And even when I fail, my ideal will live on and grow stronger with every try. Do not fool yourself by thinking you could stop me, as it would be blatant lie. Just concentrate on single fact that can prolong your existence and delay your inevitable bloody death just little bit longer:

Vote for Grim ranger for Evil ITP, because he DESERVES it!

[Morty]

The best way to deal with a festering boil is to lance it, not ask it to please stop.

Though I'm not Good, I'd agree with it - trying to be "diplomatic" and "understanding" only encourages criminals to carry on, and laugh at you.
This is, of course, why the most efficient justicars are Neutral.

[Tempest Fennac]

I never said diplomacy was fool-proof. :smalltongue: In those cases, you're probably right about violence being needed.

[Selrahc]

Psh if we used that argument we could also say that demons aren't evil.

And stuff like that.

Yeah but Bizzaro isn't really on the same sort of scale as a demon. He's an ignorant child, intentionally created to be a warped mockery of a champion of life. He is cursed with power that would be more fitting for a god but with a brain unable to cope with anything like the scope of actions available under those powers. Most of the time he uses those powers to do things that he thinks are "good", in order to be a "Better" Superman but is unable to do it properly. At others times he is locked into a struggle to be a sort of anti Superman, committing random acts of carnage.

He exists outside of conventional reality in a far more stark way than demons, so I don't think using him to illustrate evil is all that helpful.


Actually ignore me I don't know what I'm saying. I think being knocked down messed with my brain. Or was the world always so pink?

Oh. Feel kind of silly for writing all that now. :smalltongue:

[Blue Ghost]

In my experience, very few evil ones are willing to listen to you. But I still prefer to go with the nonviolent approach first, even if it isn't effective. Not diplomacy or reason, but extending a hand of friendship to everyone in need, even evil people. After all, that's what Good means.

Grim Ranger, I have seen your evil exploits in the Playground. While right now I still consider you only a minor villain, I'm impressed, and somewhat horrified, by your dedication to your cause. You have my support for Evil ITP.

[Morty]

No offense to any Evil candidates who have appeared and may still appear, but Kaelaroth is way ahead of you. And it saddens me to see Cookiemonster stray from the path of Neutrality towards evil.

[Hyozo]

I have no reason to run for any category on this axis, except possibly the one Atreyu is proposing. However, those of you who attempt to influence individuals via bribes may find influencing me potentially possible.

[Dallas-Dakota]

*snip*

You're still pretty much a nobody to me who occasionaly posts, also, really, that just sounds like some paladin shmuck, especially if you'd replace the words bad and evil and such with good and kind....

So, paladin-boy, go play with your little friend Blue Ghost.

See, just by being evil I sadden people!:smallbiggrin:

[Blue Ghost]

DD, did you change to evil just for this contest? If so, you should reconsider. Do you really want to have an "Evil ITP" tag in your signature for the rest of your career?

[Boo]

In my experience, very few evil ones are willing to listen to you. But I still prefer to go with the nonviolent approach first, even if it isn't effective. Not diplomacy or reason, but extending a hand of friendship to everyone in need, even evil people. After all, that's what Good means.

Ignorance is Good? Huh.

[Grim ranger]

You're still pretty much a nobody to me who occasionaly posts, also, really, that just sounds like some paladin shmuck, especially if you'd replace the words bad and evil and such with good and kind....

So, paladin-boy, go play with your little friend Blue Ghost.

See, just by being evil I sadden people!:smallbiggrin:

Well, I do not see you posting every other second either. And what if I sound a bit like paladin? I am as dedicated to my ideal as they are to theirs, if not more, which may cause hamminess when discussing the subject in question :smalltongue:

And how are you evil then? Most evil deed I have seen you to do is munching other's cookies, which to be blunt is not so much in my Evil-O-Meter. At least I play in high league, not in cookie jar :smalltongue:

[Dallas-Dakota]

Ofcourse, the stereotype, pretty much most of my evil is in private or not in public, usually.
I prefer their screams, that they scream for help, knowing that it'l neer come. That the pain will never end. Rather then as the masses panic and try to flee while I bask in the chaos I cause.

Ofcourse the most ''evil'' thing I've seen you do is smack around some pretty sword with Fred while you banter. High league, huh? Mr Paladin boy.

[Thanatos 51-50]

1) It's 'big leagues', not 'high league'

2) Your adresses have been noted. You get until the hitsquad narrives to repent.

[Grim ranger]

Ofcourse, the stereotype, pretty much most of my evil is in private or not in public, usually.
I prefer their screams, that they scream for help, knowing that it'l neer come. That the pain will never end. Rather then as the masses panic and try to flee while I bask in the chaos I cause.

Ofcourse the most ''evil'' thing I've seen you do is smack around some pretty sword with Fred while you banter. High league, huh? Mr Paladin boy.

Then you have not really been looking... *steps on puppy absent-mindedly*

And private torture is fun, I just do not base my whole reptioire on it :smalltongue:

[Fredthefighter]

Ofcourse the most ''evil'' thing I've seen you do is smack around some pretty sword with Fred while you banter. High league, huh? Mr Paladin boy.

Ooooooh! Grim Ranger got burned!
*Glaive to the face for Grim Ranger*
Do I bother running for Good itP? Probably not, but maybe.

[Blue Ghost]

If you do, I'll support you. I don't like competing for the title of Good itP against so many worthy opponents, but I just want to see how well I can hold up to the standards of Good in the Playground.

[FireFox]

I'll say this, Good is going to be one of the most contested categories. Kaela has Evil, and everyone else is just fighting over second.
Actually, Neutral will be close too.

[Fredthefighter]

Eh, what the hey, I'll go for good.

I will tell you this people, I'm not perfect, I make mistakes like everyone else. I can't bring back the dead, or turn evil into good, or rob the rich to feed the poor, but I do my best, I fight where I can and when I can. I make the best of what use I can be. To me, that is what good is, doing what you can, and putting your own backside on the line despite the fact that there are people who are bigger and stronger than you, despite the fact that you're probably going to lose. Good is putting on a smile as you stride into battle, even if you know that you and a lot of others aren't going to make it out alive. Sure redemption is good, and we should be trying to redeem as many evildoers as possible, but there are some evils that you just can't change, that's where people like me come in. We swing the axe and bear the shield for YOU, no one else, we do it for YOU. We don't expect riches, land, or praise, or even a pint of mead every once in a while. We just want to keep you all safe and people like me are happy to die knowing that you are.

Fredthefighter for Good itP: Taking the pain so that you don't have to.

[Blue Ghost]

That... was beautiful. Well said, Fred.

[Fredthefighter]

That... was beautiful. Well said, Fred.

Thankyou good sir.

[Kaelaroth]

And how are you evil then? Most evil deed I have seen you to do is munching other's cookies, which to be blunt is not so much in my Evil-O-Meter. At least I play in high league, not in cookie jar :smalltongue:

There are bigger fish in the sea.
You are a minnow. Against current, what's more.

[Boo]

The first half of Freds speech could also be related to Evil! Beware! He's a tricky one!

[Fredthefighter]

The first half of Freds speech could also be related to Evil! Beware! He's a tricky one!

Evil lives in all of us Boo. None of us can escape it, but some of us do our best to keep it at bay, to fight it, to perservere on in the name of all the good folk of this world and everything we hold dear. It's hard, and it's a dirty job, but somebody has to do it.

[Blue Ghost]

Evil lives in all of us Boo. None of us can escape it, but some of us do our best to keep it at bay, to fight it, to perservere on in the name of all the good folk of this world and everything we hold dear. It's hard, and it's a dirty job, but somebody has to do it.

All who are good must fight against the evil within and without. Not to resist it would put one at Neutral, at best. So everybody has to do it.

[Dallas-Dakota]

That is so terribly narrowminded.

Don't pass up temptation. It might not come your way again.

[Blue Ghost]

The temptation is always here, evil one. Try as I may to be rid of it, it remains inside of me, reminding me every moment of my human weakness. The path of Good means fighting the temptation every moment of the day.

[Fredthefighter]

All who are good must fight against the evil within and without. Not to resist it would put one at Neutral, at best. So everybody has to do it.

There's a difference between fight and resist. To resist evil (IMO) is to just stay where you are with it (to take everything it dishes out and sit there). Fight (IMO), is to do the same, but then you strike back.

DD: You've got no chance causing me to fall. And I doubt Blue Ghost would fall either.

[Morty]

The temptation is always here, evil one. Try as I may to be rid of it, it remains inside of me, reminding me every moment of my human weakness. The path of Good means fighting the temptation every moment of the day.

So what you're saying is that everyone is basically Neutral, with both Good and Evil inside themselves. It's very true, so why do you deny it so much?

[Kaelaroth]

So what you're saying is that everyone is basically Neutral, with both Good and Evil inside themselves. It's very true, so why do you deny it so much?

Oh, please. :smallsigh:

[Morty]

Oh, please. :smallsigh:

Ah yes, there are those who have nothing but evil in themselves; but will you say that all people who call themselves "evil" have no modicum of goodness in themselves? Not a single soft streak?

[Blue Ghost]

So what you're saying is that everyone is basically Neutral, with both Good and Evil inside themselves. It's very true, so why do you deny it so much?

Yes, everyone has both Good and Evil inside themselves. That does not make everyone Neutral. One can choose to follow their inner good or evil. I have chosen the path of Good, knowing it to be right.

@Fred: The way I see it, every act of Good is a strike against evil. Those who are Good are by definition fighting evil. To merely resist and not strike back would be neutral.

[Fredthefighter]

@Fred: The way I see it, every act of Good is a strike against evil. Those who are Good are by definition fighting evil. To merely resist and not strike back would be neutral.

Indeed. Each of us has our own way of fighting evil. Be it healing the sick, helping the poor, protecting those who can't protect themselves, or even just being there for someone.

[Kaelaroth]

Hey!
I'm there for people! :smallamused:

[Dallas-Dakota]

Also, Kaela, did you cause obesity all around America, especially among children?

I think not.

:smallamused:

[Fredthefighter]

Hey!
I'm there for people! :smallamused:

Yeah, to tell them all the horrible things they've done wrong with their life and utterly crush them.

That isn't what I meant. I meant being a comforting presence, a shoulder to cry on, or even just being someone to talk to who will listen.

[Kaelaroth]

Also, Kaela, did you cause obesity all around America, especially among children?

I think not.

:smallamused:
Dude, that's not evil. You're just shepherding them inside away from the many environmental hazards I've helped create. :smallmad:


Yeah, to tell them all the horrible things they've done wrong with their life and utterly crush them.

That isn't what I meant. I meant being a comforting presence, a shoulder to cry on, or even just being someone to talk to who will listen.

Well, fine.
You could be more explicit next time, or something. :smallfrown:

[FireFox]

Yeah, to tell them all the horrible things they've done wrong with their life and utterly crush them.

That isn't what I meant. I meant being a comforting presence, a shoulder to cry on, or even just being someone to talk to who will listen.

I'm glad you recognized what I do around here Fred. You're Good, but right now I already have my three people for the nominations...

[TFT]

Hey!
I'm there for people! :smallamused:

When it suits you...

Some people here probably think that if they help people whenever they can and it won't hurt them is good enough. However, to be a true symbol of good, you need to not only help people, but do it even when it inconveniences you.

@Kaelaroth - Obviously I was making a point.

[Dallas-Dakota]

Dude, that's not evil. You're just shepherding them inside away from the many environmental hazards I've helped create. :smallmad:
Such as?

And I don't do environmental hazards, I do disasters, why take a chance when you can just be 100% sure?:smallamused:

[Fredthefighter]

I'm glad you recognized what I do around here Fred. You're Good, but right now I already have my three people for the nominations...

No problem. I don't intend to win really. Just want to see how far I get. Maybe make some new friends in the process.

And Kaelaroth, I could be more explicit yes, yes I could. I'm sorry if I'm just a little bitter there. I apologise if I managed to penetrate your seemingly unbreakable armor of willpower with my pointy words.

[Kaelaroth]

When it suits you...

Obviously.
Where have you been? :smallconfused:


And Kaelaroth, I could be more explicit yes, yes I could. I'm sorry if I'm just a little bitter there. I apologise if I managed to penetrate your seemingly unbreakable armor of willpower with my pointy words.

Nah, you didn't. As if. :smalltongue:


Such as?

And I don't do environmental hazards, I do disasters, why take a chance when you can just be 100% sure?:smallamused:

Now you're just being silly, though. As if you can make disasters.
Which leads me to think you're not at all evil, really. You'd just like to win a shiny internet trinket.

[Dallas-Dakota]

If it was a contest, would I have convinced Em to join me then?
Em, the cute little innocent girl you remember.
Now vote DD, or we'l cut you into d4 sized pieces!

[Moofin Bard]

All of you certainly make good points about your good and evil campaigns.

Mort doesn't, because neutrality is not about killing good and evil.

It's like being a ying yang if that makes any sense at all. Half the things you do are bad while the other half of things you do are good. At least that's how I see it anyway.

[Hell Puppi]

Eh not all the time. Neutrality can be about knowing that good and evil are just labels one uses to define oneself. After all a man can believe he's good while doing evil, either because he's misguided or believes that he's right.
Neutrality sees that the world doesn't work in the black and white ways of good and evil, it's far more varied and nearly impossible to define.
Neutrality can be about defying labels or refusing to use them.
Neutrality can also be simple. Say you have a dog who sees it's master attacked and it bites the attacker. The dog is good, right? What if the dog's master is a robber or a murderer and the dog just bit a policeman? The dog is not inherently good or evil, it merely is.

...at least that's the way I see it.

[Moofin Bard]

You make a very interesting point.

I like it.

I'm adding your philosophy on neutralism to my accepted ones. It includes yours and mine.

[Ashen Lilies]

Would selling weapons to both Good and Evil and making a nice healthy profit out of it count as Neutral? >.>

[Moofin Bard]

Hmm...why yes it would. Or so I believe. It's a little towards the Neutral Evil spectrum but what can you do?

[Morty]

Eh not all the time. Neutrality can be about knowing that good and evil are just labels one uses to define oneself. After all a man can believe he's good while doing evil, either because he's misguided or believes that he's right.
Neutrality sees that the world doesn't work in the black and white ways of good and evil, it's far more varied and nearly impossible to define.
Neutrality can be about defying labels or refusing to use them.
Neutrality can also be simple. Say you have a dog who sees it's master attacked and it bites the attacker. The dog is good, right? What if the dog's master is a robber or a murderer and the dog just bit a policeman? The dog is not inherently good or evil, it merely is.

...at least that's the way I see it.

Very, very good points. Neutrality is all about defying the labels "Good Guys" and "Bad Guys" try to swap on everything and everyone.


Mort doesn't, because neutrality is not about killing good and evil.

Good and Evil people slaughter people for their causes all the time. We have to defend ourselves.
And besides, have you not noticed that I conceded this point - and provided other examples of Neutral behavior. Same goes for the dead being symbolic.

Would selling weapons to both Good and Evil and making a nice healthy profit out of it count as Neutral? >.>

This is indeed a very Neutral move, and I don't see what's "Evil" about it. We sell them weapons; it's not our business what do they do with it.
Of course, the important thing to know about neutrality is that it's complex. There are many ways of being Neutral, while to be Good or Evil you just have to be loud and wear a sticker.

[Kaelaroth]

Of course, the important thing to know about neutrality is that it's complex. There are many ways of being Neutral, while to be Good or Evil you just have to be loud and wear a sticker.

All my respect for your campaign has, due to the bolded statement, faded. :smallsigh:
Who else's running for Neutral?

[wxdruid]

Me, your always Neutral wxdruid!

[Blue Ghost]

All my respect for your campaign has, due to the bolded statement, faded. :smallsigh:
Who else's running for Neutral?

I second this. Though my respect for M0rt's campaign has been dwindling for some time now, due to his insistence on treating Good and Evil as just Red vs. Blue.

[RabbitHoleLost]

I second this. Though my respect for M0rt's campaign has been dwindling for some time now, due to his insistence on treating Good and Evil as just Red vs. Blue.

He has a point, though.
To win Good or Evil, you have to be solidly on one side. You have to convince us that you are, infact, worthy of being THE EVIL or THE GOOD of the Playground, and that does, as he says, being LOUD about it.

Unfortunately, not a single one of the people running this year strike me as either.
Infact, M0rt is the ONLY one I'm thinking of supporting, and he's neutral.

[Kaelaroth]

He has a point, though.
To win Good or Evil, you have to be solidly on one side. You have to convince us that you are, infact, worthy of being THE EVIL or THE GOOD of the Playground, and that does, as he says, being LOUD about it.

Unfortunately, not a single one of the people running this year strike me as either.
Infact, M0rt is the ONLY one I'm thinking of supporting, and he's neutral.

But that's not what he said (though I can't vouch for what he meant), unless his choice of wording is very different from mine. He said to be, not to win. And I'm sure, to win this competition, you do have to be loud, butter your bottom, call yourself an alignment oriented-biscuit and stamp the proclamation all over yourself.. but to be good or evil, you don't. That seems to be missing the point of alignment all together, in the same way, I feel, DD is. You don't have to say you're evil to be evil (though, to win, of course, you do). You just have to be.
EDIT: And one might argue that that's semantics - I, however, would look upon the response with worry.

[Atreyu the Masked LLama]

Unfortunately, not a single one of the people running this year strike me as either.
Infact, M0rt is the ONLY one I'm thinking of supporting, and he's neutral.

*SOBS* I'm trying to be gooneutvil!! I really am!!

[happyturtle]

I'm still a Mort supporter. Textwalls aren't nearly as decisive as observing someone's behaviour, and Mort has been a solid example of neutrality over the past year.

[Thanatos 51-50]

Textwalls are precisely why I don't really campagin much after annoucning that I'm running. Which is why I stopped really posting after half apage or so.

That and the poster formerly known as FF Fanboy and I often got into debates which would "spill over" outside the thread.
If you'll excuse me, I have an appointment at a soup kitchen before my patrol, tonight.
Thanatos awaaaay.

[Reinholdt]

*SOBS* I'm trying to be gooneutvil!! I really am!!
Don't worry Llama. I'll support you in that category. :smallsmile:

Or run against you. :smallamused:

Oh! I know! I'll support you while running against you! That's gooneutvil, right?

[Blue Ghost]

What in the world is goodneutvil, anyway? I thought you were running for goodneutbil?

[Lord Herman]

*SOBS* I'm trying to be gooneutvil!! I really am!!

I don't think we really need to bother with voting for the Evil itP category anymore. RHL made the llama cry, she gets the trophy. No, not really.

Edit: I've just posted the nomination thread, so it should appear as soon as a mod has approved it.

[Morty]

All my respect for your campaign has, due to the bolded statement, faded. :smallsigh:
Who else's running for Neutral?

I'm sorry to hear that, as you're actually a counterexample to this claim. See, what I meant is that it's easy to be evil or good this way, by placing a sticker upon yourself and shouting loudly. I never said that it's all there is to goodness or evilness.
Still, if you do no wish to vote for me, I won't beg you to. I can't please everyone.

[Moofin Bard]

I'm running for neutral! *waves hands around*

And Mort, while you and others may accept your philosophy, I just don't agree with it. It's an opinion thing.

[Morty]

And Mort, while you and others may accept your philosophy, I just don't agree with it. It's an opinion thing.

And what is it in my philosophy that you don't agree with? Aside from "killing good and evil" which I've already admitted was an exagerration and I'd be grateful if people stopped harping on it?

[Moofin Bard]

Oh. I didn't see where you said it was an exaggeration. I skim. Nevermind then. It's perfectly acceptable now.

:smallsmile:

[Boo]

Hmm, I'd run, but I don't see the point. Maybe if I held it closer to someones head, they could tell me where it is. Though to win a trophy, to be proclaimed king for a year... That has a responsibility to it. If anyone would care to sit on this throne here, I could show you the promise in being a king, a ruler.

[Moofin Bard]

Your avatar is interesting. Just putting it out there.

[Boo]

It's always interesting when I make it. /smug

Thank you, though I don't think it could win a contest. Ever.

[Tempest Fennac]

Boo, you may surprise yourself if you try to win (you don't have anything to lose by entering these contests).

[Dallas-Dakota]

A brief summary of my evil speech:
http://fliiby.com/images/_original/av0j3tqprm.jpg

[Boo]

Boo, you may surprise yourself if you try to win (you don't have anything to lose by entering these contests).

I was talking about my art (I don't have Photoshop at home, so I can no longer make anything like this). I know I could get at least bronze in many of these GitP contests, but I'd like to see new people win once in a while. If not new, then people who enter it because they think they deserve it. Not because they just 'want' it. *glares at DD*

[Moofin Bard]

Might as well glare at me. Even though I do consider myself neutral a lot of the times, I tend to lean more towards neutral good. I just really want another shiny trophy. I only have one.

[RabbitHoleLost]

I don't think we really need to bother with voting for the Evil itP category anymore. RHL made the llama cry, she gets the trophy. No, not really.

Edit: I've just posted the nomination thread, so it should appear as soon as a mod has approved it.
>>
It would be so cool to have a trophy just for making the Llama cry.Shhh, Atreyu, I haz plantonic loves for you <3

[Thanatos 51-50]

>>
It would be so cool to have a trophy just for making the Llama cry.

It's okay, I'm voting for you Rabbit.
*eyes your Sickers of Alignment reversal suspiciously*

[Ashen Lilies]

Grah. I'm not sure if I should run for Neutral or not. Part of me thinks I'm genuinely neutral, and part of me thinks I just want another shiny trophy, and a third part of me knows I'm going to run for one alignment trophy, and is busy wondering if I'm more chaotic, or more neutral. Currently, neutral is winning.

[Moofin Bard]

Wanting to run for something for selfish reasons is very neutral.

After all, we neutrals have to look out for number one.

[Ashen Lilies]

But if I do something for selfish reasons and harm other people in the process (by ruining their chance of getting a shiny), doesn't that make it a borderline evil act? :smalltongue:
Plus, it's perfectly fine to take care of yourself, but succumbing to the decadent sensual pleasures of a shiny object is pretty un-neutral isn't it? :smalltongue::smalltongue:

[horngeek]

I still have the horrible feeling that I have no hope of actually getting into GooditP. In any way.

Because there are so many better known people than me in that category.

[Tempest Fennac]

Kris, I wouldn't class reducing the chances of someone else winning it as harming them (I tend to think winning means more if there's a lot of competition).

[Ashen Lilies]

That's assuming that they win, of course. :smallwink:[/arrogance]

[RabbitHoleLost]

It's okay, I'm voting for you Rabbit.
*eyes your Sickers of Alignment reversal suspiciously*

Ha, thanks, but I have no intention of running for anything this time 'round.
I'm more of a whatever floats my boat person, but that's not really neutral, and there's no place for it =P

Also, Than, why won't you give me a hug? v.v
:: hides Stickers of Alignment Reversal behind back::

[happyturtle]

Kris, I see you as more chaotic than neutral.

[Morty]

I'm glad that Boo didn't decide to run for Neutral Itp, because in such case, everyone else would have to give up.
And I don't think being Chaotic makes someone less fit for running for Neutral. It's about Good/Evil axis, isn't it?

[Trixie]

Kris, I see you as more chaotic than neutral.

Huh. I wonder how people see me, then.
But if you say something about being evil/wolf I'm going to punch you :smalltongue:

[Atreyu the Masked LLama]

^ Good but brutally honest. Brutal ITP!


Don't worry Llama. I'll support you in that category. :smallsmile:

Or run against you. :smallamused:

Oh! I know! I'll support you while running against you! That's gooneutvil, right?

oooh, I think that's the very definition of gooneutvil.



What in the world is goodneutvil, anyway? I thought you were running for goodneutbil?


I'm neut enough that gooneutbil or gooneutvil would both work. I'm mostly interested in the neut.

I've turned me into a neut!!

[Reinholdt]

I've turned me into a neut!!
*cooks neut*
*turns back into Llama*
Vote Atreyu for gooneutbil!

[Hyozo]

Huh. I wonder how people see me, then.

Mason ITP?


It's always interesting when I make it. /smug

Thank you, though I don't think it could win a contest. Ever.

You never know. It doesn't take much to convince some people. Back when I was Iceddragons, I got the bronze for winter off nothing but my name, while actively supporting people nominating Reinholdt or The Goof instead of myself.

[Blue Ghost]

Mason ITP?

WW roles ITP? That's an idea. Except we know who'll win wolf hands down, eh? :smallwink:

[Shadowcaller]

WW roles ITP? That's an idea. Except we know who'll win wolf hands down, eh? :smallwink:

Actually... that would be a race between Murska and Shadow. Besides we have already had wolf itp.

[Hyozo]

WW roles ITP? That's an idea. Except we know who'll win wolf hands down, eh? :smallwink:

Yes, Lykan is so certain to win that he already has the trophy.:smalltongue:

[Moofin Bard]

Hey now, winning stuff for personal gain is neutral enough.

The good guys and the bad guys do it all the time.

[Trixie]

Huh. I wonder if it is too late to join? :smallsigh:

Still, even if it isn't, picking a category would be bothersome :smalltongue:

[Blue Ghost]

I would say that if you can't decide on a category, it's probably best not to join. But if you want to go for it, you can.

[Trixie]

I didn't mean I can't pick I category. I have clear idea of which suits me best. The issue lies elsewhere - in the fact that stating this clearly would somewhat limit my options, and in this that the others might not necessarily agree with my view :smalltongue:

[Moofin Bard]

No one person is going to get everybody to agree with your view.

So go ahead and join.
It'll be fun.

[happyturtle]

I didn't mean I can't pick I category. I have clear idea of which suits me best. The issue lies elsewhere - in the fact that stating this clearly would somewhat limit my options, and in this that the others might not necessarily agree with my view :smalltongue:

If you're wondering on alignment, I'd guess you as Lawful itp. Which will probably be in the contest after this one.

[Boo]

She's a tricksy one: Miss Trix. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRDYiMGi7Fc)

EDIT: Should I feel honoured that you use a site called "ImageBoo"?

@V: Mine was a link to a band named such, and their song was at least catchy, so :smallyuk:!

:smalltongue:

[Dallas-Dakota]

Hey, I don't link to videos spoken in foreign languages.... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ytL6kG5hQM)*

Oh wait, I just did.:smallamused:
*I didn't actually watch the song...

[Trixie]

Trixie: When you need to confuse the Banjo out of the whole Playground!

To make things short, I'll give you three valid reasons that would make me a very paragon of Neutrality:

First - my style. Just look at the Bastion of Neutrality that is Vaarsuvius and then, go ask Jontom or Lex for detailed comparison;

Second - my tastes. All the games I ran in the past had a heavy focus on the Neutral side, even going so far as to make the whole Mason group Neutral. You can also check what role is my... specialty - none of that good or evil stuff;

And third: even repeated attempts (by Murska and Shadow, no less!) to slander my integrity and to mark me as evil utterly failed, every single time. Just check what our expert has to say:


http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/8/11/128944924425749334.jpg

We'd love to give you more reasons, but I want to give the competition a chance (however slight) so this ad is going to stop here. Just remember: Trixie for the Rescue! :smalltongue:

[Dallas-Dakota]

Just remember: Trixie for the Rescue! :smalltongue:
That sounds remarkably good aligned.:smalltongue:

[Hell Puppi]

That sounds remarkably good aligned.:smalltongue:

Hey, neutral people can rescue whoever they damn well please. :smalltongue:

[Moofin Bard]

Hey, neutral people can rescue whoever they damn well please. :smalltongue:

It's true. Rescue puppies...

Actually it's only neutral if you do something bad to nullify it.

[Recaiden]

As long as you don't do it to help the puppies, but rather just for the heck of it, it's neutral.:smallamused:

[Boo]

As long as you don't do it to help the puppies, but rather just for the heck of it, it's neutral.:smallamused:

Or you rescue the puppy, then hold it for ransom.

[Dallas-Dakota]

As long as you don't do it to help the puppies, but rather just for the heck of it, it's neutral.:smallamused:
Ummmm, how about, no?

[Trixie]

That sounds remarkably good aligned.:smalltongue:

Well, people need saving from the good, too :smallamused:

[Morty]

It's true. Rescue puppies...

Actually it's only neutral if you do something bad to nullify it.

Indeed. What people forget most of the time is that neutral people can and do perform good and evil deeds, as long as they balance each other, more or less. In fact, I'd wager that good people can perform evil deeds and vice versa - though if they can be still called a paragon of goodness or evilness in such case is debatable.

[Moofin Bard]

It's like a scale. With good things and evil things on either side.

Do too much evil, you get tipped to the evil side.

Do too much good, you get tipped to the good side.

Us neutrals like to do just enough to stay in the middle. If we find ourselves wavering towards one side, we're gonna do something on the other side.

[Ashen Lilies]

Or... you rescue the puppy because it was cute. Or because it was your pet. There's no need to 'balance it out' with an evil act.
Kindness =/= Good.

If you rescue your pet/friend/family... that's not a good act. That's a neutral act. Hell, even if you rescue someone you don't know from a mugger or a bully, that's not really a good act (sort of borderline though). It's just common altruism/inability to deal with the guilt. It's when you go out of your way to help a person you don't know, often endangering or harming yourself in the process, is when it crosses over into a good act.
Saving someone from a single unarmed mugger is a neutral act, since it's unlikely you'd be seriously injured in such a case. The mugger would probably run off when he finds that he's outnumbered. It's just common kindness to help in such a situation.
Saving someone from a trio of muggers armed with baseball bats however, is a good act, since you're risking your own life to save someone you barely know. Of course, this is an extreme example, and probably falls into Stupid Good territory, but whatever.

[Moofin Bard]

Hmm. You have a point.

[Thanatos 51-50]

Or... you rescue the puppy because it was cute. Or because it was your pet. There's no need to 'balance it out' with an evil act.
Kindness =/= Good.

If you rescue your pet/friend/family... that's not a good act. That's a neutral act. Hell, even if you rescue someone you don't know from a mugger or a bully, that's not really a good act (sort of borderline though). It's just common altruism/inability to deal with the guilt. It's when you go out of your way to help a person you don't know, often endangering or harming yourself in the process, is when it crosses over into a good act.
Saving someone from a single unarmed mugger is a neutral act, since it's unlikely you'd be seriously injured in such a case. The mugger would probably run off when he finds that he's outnumbered. It's just common kindness to help in such a situation.
Saving someone from a trio of muggers armed with baseball bats however, is a good act, since you're risking your own life to save someone you barely know. Of course, this is an extreme example, and probably falls into Stupid Good territory, but whatever.

Thank you for pointing this out. I was too busy to sign in when I noticed the rather flawed "Balancing act = Neutral" Argument.

[Lord Herman]

Ladies and gents, the nominations of Good and Evil in the Playground, 2009 Edition have started. Linky!

[RabbitHoleLost]

It has come to my attention people are nominating me for Evil itP.
...
:: shrugs::

Ok.




Note: my abstain in the Evil category is not because I am apparantly now running, but because noone really strikes me as really evil.
Exeson and DD are cute and sweet and not evil.
And Kaela's just....all over the map.

[Dallas-Dakota]

*bans Rabbit from all things Beatle and Mad Hatter*

[RabbitHoleLost]

*bans Rabbit from all things Beatle and Mad Hatter*

I'd like to see you try.

[Boo]

I'd like to see you try;

If you were to try...
You'd die.
Without the Beatles, she would be slumping.
Without the Hatter; it's your head she'd be thumping.
You would not survive,
Hard as you may strive.
Remember that, and remember it well.
For that hole, in the future, she'll say that you fell.

[Kaelaroth]

And Kaela's just....all over the map.

Mm? :smallconfused:

[wxdruid]

I'm busy at GenCon09 :smallbiggrin:

Either nominate me for Neutral or don't. It'll all be the same.

catlover wants me to buy her more dice and a sword, hehe

[Moofin Bard]

I don't care if I'm nominated or not.
I just like running for stuff.
It's fun.

[Lord Herman]

I've extended the nominations a bit (read: over half a week), seeing as it took a while for them to be approved by a mod, so they'd only have been up for three days if I ended them now. The new deadline is Thursday next week.

[Lord Magtok]

I grudgingly accept any and all nominations of Magtok for Evil or GooNeutBil or whatever else Rein somehow convinces you is a good idea. However, if by some freak accident I actually win something, I'ma gonna bonk Reinholdt over the head with said award.

[Dallas-Dakota]

I don't care if I'm nominated or not.
I just like running for stuff.
It's fun.
This.

And I don't mind my mountain getting bigger.

[Lord Herman]

I grudgingly accept any and all nominations of Magtok for Evil or GooNeutBil or whatever else Rein somehow convinces you is a good idea. However, if by some freak accident I actually win something, I'ma gonna bonk Reinholdt over the head with said award.

I'd vote for you, if I weren't the one running this contest. What I can do, however, is make the trophy extra heavy, with pointy bits.

[Reinholdt]

I grudgingly accept any and all nominations of Magtok for Evil or GooNeutBil or whatever else Rein somehow convinces you is a good idea. However, if by some freak accident I actually win something, I'ma gonna bonk Reinholdt over the head with said award.
Hey, don't look at me. I was supporting Atreyu while running for GooNeutBil myself (that... didn't work for me. Go Atreyu!) I just needed some other people to fill the slots. :smalltongue:

Though after I voted in the false category, it caught on rather quickly. :smalleek:

[Xondoure]

Playgrounders, I am here to run for, you guessed it, Evil itp. Why, you ask, should I receive such a title? The answer is simple: because I deserve it.

When I first came to the playground, I was miserable nobody with ambitions of making name for himself. You have seen my duels with Fred, my nemesis (dark gods curse his name), and my daily toil to bring as much death, chaos and despair to the playground as I can manage, and never have I let go of my noble ideals to destroy everything in sight and beyond it. Unlike some of my comrades in evil, I never had innocent start or ambitions to make the world better place: I was evil from day one and enjoyed every minute of it (exept of course the reversed alignment week, which I will not speak of more in this speech). For those who claim their evil was caused by outside forces and whine that they have been "made" evil, I can say only this: stop making fool out of yourselves and get back to work, or face eternity as miserable nobodies :smalltongue:. Evil is my objective, my life is dedicated to it, and it is the only goal I never abannon or forget for single moment. Being evil made me who I am, and I embrace that existence. Evil is what I live and breathe for, and due to this fact alone I deserve
to be known what I am.

I have committed pretty much every attrocity known to good guys, and actively seek to find new and interesting ones. And even when I fail, my ideal will live on and grow stronger with every try. Do not fool yourself by thinking you could stop me, as it would be blatant lie. Just concentrate on single fact that can prolong your existence and delay your inevitable bloody death just little bit longer:

Vote for Grim ranger for Evil ITP, because he DESERVES it!

I place my vote for Grim Ranger, may the RNG goddess curse his name. :smalltongue:

[Fredthefighter]

I place my vote for Grim Ranger, may the RNG goddess curse his name. :smalltongue:

That's not what he said when he was gently huggling my little puppy-shaped face. And he was singing a completely different tune when he turned... good. :smalltongue:

[Grim ranger]

That's not what he said when he was gently huggling my little puppy-shaped face. And he was singing a completely different tune when he turned... good. :smalltongue:

SILEEEENNNNNCEEEEEE! :smallfurious:

Don't you dare to remind me of that time! I almost surrendered completely to do-gooding and feeding little birds. Urgh, I need to get my memory scrubbed :smallannoyed:

*kicks Fred for goodEvil measure*

@V: It is a saying, you shmuch *stabbities and eats the corpse*

[Boo]

*kicks Fred for good measure*

You're kicking Fred for GOOD measure? What the hell, man? Are you lying to us? Only do-gooders lie! You're a Goody! Get the Goody!

*sets up pitchfork/torch kiosk*

@^: I know, but while you're eating me, can you please start with my friend below? I'd like to make a reference in death.

[Lord Herman]

The nominations close tomorrow, so if there's still someone you want to bribe, blackmail, or threaten into voting for you, do it now.

[Moofin Bard]

*makes threatening punching motion*

Nahhhhh. I'll let what will be, be.

[Grim ranger]

Yeah, too late to start sending goons after potential votes... I guess I will just sip my glass of blood and wait for results.