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Thorin
2009-08-12, 10:14 PM
So, 4.0, a friend has a doubt regarding the creation of the pj.

22 system buy (stats base are 10,10,10,10,10,8)

He had considered human & dwarf, but he thinks that not having a 18 in int is going to hurt him a bit.

As a dwarf: 16,14(16),14(16),13,10,8
As a human: 16(18),14,14,13,10,8

(int, wis, con, dex, str, cha)

Help almighty playgrounders!

Kylarra
2009-08-12, 10:24 PM
obligatory guide link (http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1204441).

My personal preference out of the +int racs is Eladrin for Eladrin Soldier and such, though human is never a bad choice. Dwarf is thematically nice, but not as useful as being human, eladrin or deva imo.

NPCMook
2009-08-12, 10:26 PM
Deva.

+int and +wis.

Edit: Assuming he wants to be the summoner version of Githiyanki... since they are the ONLY race to get +con and +int.

Ninetail
2009-08-18, 02:27 AM
Dwarf should be fine. As long as he's got a 16, he can make do.

Now, the extra +1 is definitely nice, and if he's an optimizing type, he'll probably want it. Human is my usual pick there, but deva is excellent too. It'd be beneficial to pick a +int race.

But if he wants a dwarf, the benefit is not so great that he should avoid playing a dwarf. 4e isn't like 3e; there really isn't a race/class combination that's outright bad because of stats. (Other things, yes -- halfling barbarians are at a bit of a disadvantage due to their size -- but not stats.) Some are better than others at a given class, but any character with at least a 16 primary is viable.

Kurald Galain
2009-08-18, 03:26 AM
He had considered human & dwarf, but he thinks that not having a 18 in int is going to hurt him a bit.
It is, but note that he could go 18,13(15),13(15),10,10,8. You'll have a 16 in a secondary by level four, which should not be a problem.

But yeah, I would recommend eladrin, deva, or shadar-kai, or any +int race in general.