Gralamin
2009-08-21, 07:15 PM
Quite a few feats people view as "Feat Fixes". I've been making a list of variants I've seen to handle them.
List Of Feat Fixes
Expertise Feats
Focused Expertise
Implement Expertise
Weapon Expertise
Defense Feats
Epic Fort
Epic Ref
Epic Will
Great Fort
Iron Will
Lightning Ref
Paragon Defenses
Robust Defenses
Expertise Related Variants
There are a number of ways of dealing with the Expertise Feats in games, each giving a different level of power. The following list will be in order of increasing power.
Ban them altogether
Allow them to be taken once in heroic giving only a +1 bonus
Allow them to be taken once per tier, each giving a +1 bonus that stacks with one another.
Follow the normal rules
Allow players to choose any one of the three feats as a bonus feat at level 1.
All of the Following are at about the same amount:
Remove the Feats, but give a +1 untyped bonus to hit at level 5, 15, and 25.
Remove the Feats, and create masterwork weapons/implements that would give the bonus to hit.
Give the players the feats for free for all weapons/implements.
Choose of the immediately above, but also allow the feat to be taken for a +1 bonus.
Defense Related Variants
There are also a number of ways of dealing with the Defense feats in games. The Following is a listing of different variants, in order of increasing power.
Ban them all together
Follow Normal rules
The Following are equivalent
Give Robust and Paragon Defenses for free, ban epic Fort, Ref, and Will.
Create Masterwork Neck Slot items that give the bonuses of Paragon and Robust Defenses. Ban the feats.
The Following are also equivalent
Give Robust and Paragon Defenses for free, as well as one of Epic Fort, Ref, or Will (And the corresponding paragon feat in paragon). Do not let players take any others.
Create Masterwork Neck Slot items that give the bonuses of Paragon and Robust Defenses, and certain types that give The Epic Fort, Ref, or Will bonuses/Great Fort, Iron Will, and Lightning Ref bonuses.
Give All of them for Free (Staggering when you get them)
Give all of them for free, and allow players to take Robust and Paragon defenses for a bonus to defenses.
Anything that seems to be missing or misplaced?
List Of Feat Fixes
Expertise Feats
Focused Expertise
Implement Expertise
Weapon Expertise
Defense Feats
Epic Fort
Epic Ref
Epic Will
Great Fort
Iron Will
Lightning Ref
Paragon Defenses
Robust Defenses
Expertise Related Variants
There are a number of ways of dealing with the Expertise Feats in games, each giving a different level of power. The following list will be in order of increasing power.
Ban them altogether
Allow them to be taken once in heroic giving only a +1 bonus
Allow them to be taken once per tier, each giving a +1 bonus that stacks with one another.
Follow the normal rules
Allow players to choose any one of the three feats as a bonus feat at level 1.
All of the Following are at about the same amount:
Remove the Feats, but give a +1 untyped bonus to hit at level 5, 15, and 25.
Remove the Feats, and create masterwork weapons/implements that would give the bonus to hit.
Give the players the feats for free for all weapons/implements.
Choose of the immediately above, but also allow the feat to be taken for a +1 bonus.
Defense Related Variants
There are also a number of ways of dealing with the Defense feats in games. The Following is a listing of different variants, in order of increasing power.
Ban them all together
Follow Normal rules
The Following are equivalent
Give Robust and Paragon Defenses for free, ban epic Fort, Ref, and Will.
Create Masterwork Neck Slot items that give the bonuses of Paragon and Robust Defenses. Ban the feats.
The Following are also equivalent
Give Robust and Paragon Defenses for free, as well as one of Epic Fort, Ref, or Will (And the corresponding paragon feat in paragon). Do not let players take any others.
Create Masterwork Neck Slot items that give the bonuses of Paragon and Robust Defenses, and certain types that give The Epic Fort, Ref, or Will bonuses/Great Fort, Iron Will, and Lightning Ref bonuses.
Give All of them for Free (Staggering when you get them)
Give all of them for free, and allow players to take Robust and Paragon defenses for a bonus to defenses.
Anything that seems to be missing or misplaced?