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Avor
2009-09-04, 12:43 PM
3.5 game upcpming = good
knobcake, power gameing munchkin playing a shodow dancer = bad


what character do I take to be in balance or useful? Or do I walk? When your D&D turns you into an X-man, its to gtfo

Signmaker
2009-09-04, 12:45 PM
A munchkin using a shadow dancer? o.O

Anyway, pick what you want. Possibly a skillmonkey, as you'll always be useful.

Animefunkmaster
2009-09-04, 12:48 PM
Well, you have me interested. How is the shadow dancer wreaking your game?

Diamondeye
2009-09-04, 12:53 PM
I'm going to bet it has something to do with the Hide in Plain Sight ability.

That said, wizard is always good for keeping up.

Myrmex
2009-09-04, 12:58 PM
Could be a shadowpuncer.


BAMF!

valadil
2009-09-04, 01:19 PM
Radiant Servant of Pelor doubles the radius of its light spells. Just be a walking spotlight and his shadow powers will be useless!

tyckspoon
2009-09-04, 01:22 PM
Insufficient information to help. At the least, give us some kind of idea of what you want your character to do.

I should warn you that if you think a Shadowdancer is game-breakingly powerful, you will probably be at best uncomfortable with the ideas we'll give you.

Tyndmyr
2009-09-04, 01:22 PM
Wizard, Druid come to mind as the obvious options. Cleric isn't bad either.

Avoid bard, pally, fighter.

Signmaker
2009-09-04, 01:24 PM
Avoid bard

I deny your reality and substitute it with my own.

The Glyphstone
2009-09-04, 01:45 PM
Indeed.....for a game where Shadowdancer is considered overpowered, the sort of things we'll supply you to counteract him will be like reading the Necronomicon - it will solve the issue, but at the cost of your innocence and sanity....





Ia! Ia! Cthulu Fthgnan!

Sinfire Titan
2009-09-04, 01:47 PM
I deny your reality and substitute it with my own.

Wow. I don't think I've ever seen someone misquote that line. It's "I reject your reality, and substitute my own!".

Eloel
2009-09-04, 01:49 PM
Shadowdancer IS broken. If you play core-only, and ban the trio from the Big5 that exists in core.

Yzzyx
2009-09-04, 01:54 PM
Wow. I don't think I've ever seen someone misquote that line. It's "I reject your reality, and substitute my own!".

I deny your reality, and substitute my own!

Drevius
2009-09-04, 01:54 PM
lol kinda sounds like a bad "you might be a munchkin if", you might be a munchkin if you can shine brighter than a star as a shadowdancer.

Eldariel
2009-09-04, 01:55 PM
3.5 game upcpming = good
knobcake, power gameing munchkin playing a shodow dancer = bad


what character do I take to be in balance or useful? Or do I walk? When your D&D turns you into an X-man, its to gtfo

Umm...ELABORATE!

Jade_Tarem
2009-09-04, 02:04 PM
Shadowdancer overpowered? Whu..?

Go Intiate of the Sevenfold Veil. You'll be the next best thing to indestructable, and still a full caster.

For the wacky factor, go Wu Jen/Elemental Air Savant. He can hide in plain sight, but *you* can turn into a colossal sized, intelligent tornado. With glowing eyes.

Really, those suggestions aren't even scratching the surface of the crazy stuff you can do in 3.5e.

Tyndmyr
2009-09-04, 02:23 PM
Play Pun-Pun.

It won't solve your party balance, but it WILL solve your DMs belief that Shadowdancers are overpowered. It might also give him an abiding hatred for kobolds.

Pharaoh's Fist
2009-09-04, 02:31 PM
3.5 game upcpming = good
knobcake, power gameing munchkin playing a shodow dancer = bad


what character do I take to be in balance or useful? Or do I walk? When your D&D turns you into an X-man, its to gtfo

Favored Soul
Spirit Shaman
Wizard
Artificer
Druid
Cleric
Sorcerer
Wu Jen
Warlock
Binder
Psion
Wilder
Duskblade
Bard
Dragonfire Adept
Warblade
Swordsage
Crusader
Barbarian
Dungeoncrasher Fighter

The Glyphstone
2009-09-04, 06:33 PM
By X-man you think Shadowdancer = Nightcrawler?

You need to play a Swordsage with Shadow hand maneuvers. 'BAMF' indeed.:smallbiggrin:

AslanCross
2009-09-04, 06:50 PM
I don't get why the Shadowdancer is so broken either. Not sure if I can help if that already counts as overpowered munchkin fuel.

Starbuck_II
2009-09-04, 07:07 PM
3.5 game upcpming = good
knobcake, power gameing munchkin playing a shodow dancer = bad


what character do I take to be in balance or useful? Or do I walk? When your D&D turns you into an X-man, its to gtfo

What? Shadowdancer is'nt even a good Nightcrawler.
He needs shadows.

Be a Horizon Walker with 6th level Shifting (Planar) Mastery ability: now you teleport once/1d4 rds like dimension door. Now that is the Nightcrawler I know.

Can you explain detail how they are munckiney?
Hide in Plain sight is not X-man-like. Shadow jump is only 20 ft/day.
Summon Shade? Which X-man did that?

Guancyto
2009-09-04, 07:17 PM
For that matter, what the deuce is a knobcake? :smallconfused:

It sounds like a cooking experiment gone very, very wrong.

F.H. Zebedee
2009-09-04, 07:40 PM
If it's a munchkin, I can see them ruining the game as a Shadowdancer just by DEBATING constantly what counts as shadows, and what can HiPS.

I don't think this is what the OP is refering to, but Shadowdancers are like the best non-casting class for causing tweaky GM debates.

(I shadowjump into the Head Guard's nostril, making his face explode!)