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BenTheJester
2009-09-13, 10:46 AM
I want to play in a party composed of unusual classes(no core classes), which has:

Party will start around level 13, even if the party is not optimized as a whole, each character is to some level. Especially the Hexblade.

A Neutral Evil Human Hexblade who acts as a Debuffer and Melee damage dealer, and is the general party face.

A Chaotic Neutral Human Dreadnecromancer who serves both as a Tank(through her pet zombie Hydra) and a Healer(DM has allowed her to have a custom spell with an h/level duration who makes negative damage heal you and positive damage hurt you)

A True Neutral Gray Elf Beguiler who acts as our Battlefield control and Skill-monkey


What character would fit well with this party?

Maybe a Dragonfire Inspiration Bard 4/Warblade x?

Keld Denar
2009-09-13, 10:55 AM
Technically, your Bardblade uses a core class...bard...

I'd suggest a Dragonfire Adept. They are great controllers (with Entangling Exhalation), debuffers (with Slow Breath/Enfeebling Breath/etc) and have some utility tek with Voracious Dispelling. Would compliment the control offered by the Beguiler well, and add a bit of damage to the mix, which is always nice.

jiriku
2009-09-13, 02:36 PM
You'd contribute most with a character who could offer stealth, divination magic/knowledge skills, and ranged damage output. The ability to track wouldn't be that bad either.

Perhaps scout/wu jen/unseen seer or a cloistered cleric/seeker of the misty isle with the travel and trickery domains (pick up travel devotion for free at SotMI 1), or something along those lines.

Gnaeus
2009-09-13, 02:59 PM
General purpose utility caster is what you are missing. Dread Necro and Beguiler are both excellent, but highly specialized. If cloistered cleric counts, (i.e. if it is a non-core class, not a core class with a variant), that would be best. Otherwise, I would suggest Spirit Shaman, or if not, Favored Soul or Wu Jen. You want something that can react to different encounters and fill holes in your specialist caster's lists.

kme
2009-09-13, 05:14 PM
I agree that you need a "real" caster. Psion would probably be the best.

Gnaeus
2009-09-13, 05:54 PM
Yeah, Psion would work also. I forget about the psi options.

woodenbandman
2009-09-13, 10:42 PM
For that Hexblade: I suggest he take 1 level (or 2) of spellthief and then hit up the Master Spellthief. That feat has some application if you're a multiclass wizard or sorceror/spellthief, but it has the awesome side effect of making a Hexblade (or Paladin with Sword of the Arcane Order)'s caster level equal to his levels in Hexblade and Spellthief combined. That alone gets the hexblade a +7 to his caster level over a straight hexblade, as well as steal spell of a 13th level Spellthief. Actually, it allows him to store 13 stolen spell levels. Not sure if it allows him to steal up to 6th level spells yet, or if maximum level of spell stolen is based on only your spellthief levels.

For you: a Favored Soul would work out, as would an Archivist or Spirit Shaman. For any of those, a dip into Binder followed by Anima Mage is a solid choice.

BooNL
2009-09-14, 09:17 AM
+1 to Favoured Soul.

You can either build him as a full caster and a healer. Alternatively you can select a good war deity and pump him up for combat.

Also, how about a Theurge-like full caster? You could go Favoured Soul/Warmage/Mystic Theurge. Alternatively Warmage(or something another none-core arcane caster)/Ur-Pirest/Mystic Theurge.

That wouldn't be the most powerful character, but it's a pretty good and versatile caster.

AslanCross
2009-09-14, 09:26 AM
I'd go with warlock or psion.

RagnaroksChosen
2009-09-14, 09:27 AM
I'd say go spirit shaman.

There very versatile.

Each day you can pritty much change the way your class works...

Wanna gish, Pick up things like bite of line or aspect of the wolf/bullete

Wanna do dmg. Pick up craping cold splinterbolt, lighting strike.

Wanna buff? stone skin, bark skins, bears endurance, etc

Wanna due some BC? Entangle line,

You can even due utility,

It's such a great an versatile class.
I would highly recommend it for your group.

Totally Guy
2009-09-14, 11:25 AM
How about an unarmed swordsage?:smalltongue:

Gnaeus
2009-09-14, 06:48 PM
I forgot the obvious tier 1 options. Archivist and artificer can loot the entire divine spell lists for their treasures.

oldskool
2009-09-14, 07:37 PM
I like the favored soul idea. A spellthief would also be cool.