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JonestheSpy
2009-09-17, 05:49 PM
"Perhaps they will be safer without me..."

Aww.

Of course, a secret ID probably wouldn't have helped when pointed out by an Oracle, but it seems a good general principle.

Optimystik
2009-09-17, 07:30 PM
Secret identities don't help much for high-level D&D characters. No matter how well you disguise yourself, any sufficiently determined spellcaster can find out who you are and what you're up to given enough time.

And that's not even touching on Psionics and Truename Magic...

JonestheSpy
2009-09-17, 09:50 PM
Okay, Secret Identity + Nondetection. Should weed out a lot of trouble, if not all of it...

Pyron
2009-09-17, 10:32 PM
Okay, Secret Identity + Nondetection. Should weed out a lot of trouble, if not all of it...

Depends on the DM.

In V's case, she could discover that Kyrie been animated into a wight and her children are thralls of some random BBEG. Who knows.

Scarlet Knight
2009-09-17, 11:13 PM
Oh, and I thought you were talking about how secret identities allow you to sneak back into shops that have banned you ...

Optimystik
2009-09-17, 11:41 PM
Okay, Secret Identity + Nondetection. Should weed out a lot of trouble, if not all of it...

Nondetection does zilch to stop indirect detection methods, like Legend Lore, Augury, Commune, Hypercognition, Metafaculty etc. You can't keep the gods out, so clerics can just ask them about you. You still have a mind, so psionics have ways around nondetection. You're still touching things, so psychometry still... you get the idea.

Bottom line: if you don't want to be found, stay low level.

factotum
2009-09-18, 01:29 AM
Okay, Secret Identity + Nondetection. Should weed out a lot of trouble, if not all of it...

Remember what the dragon said? She said that V hadn't remembered to hide his identity magically, or perhaps V was simply so arrogant as to believe he'd never made any enemies of note. Either way, it seems clear that V *could* have hidden himself from the scrying attempts of the dragon, but simply didn't do so.

ericgrau
2009-09-18, 02:06 AM
Nondetection / mind blank / etc. and a secret identity still help a great deal at stopping spells. Psionics play a minor roll in this world, direct methods are more effective and common than indirect, and clerics do not have a chatty familiarity with their gods. They must rely on said ineffective indirect methods.

Turkish Delight
2009-09-18, 02:27 AM
Secret identities don't help much for high-level D&D characters. No matter how well you disguise yourself, any sufficiently determined spellcaster can find out who you are and what you're up to given enough time.

And that's not even touching on Psionics and Truename Magic...

Yep. As well, consider how the Black Dragon found out about V. A secret identity wouldn't have helped against the Oracle.

pflare
2009-09-18, 04:39 PM
There is one class that requires a secret identity http://www.giantitp.com/articles/mYkD5jL8N9SAcClN3pZ.html