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Kanosint
2009-10-01, 07:39 PM
Hi, first post from a long-time lurker.

I'm making a character who specialises in icicle spells... Ice Dagger, Ice Knife, Ice Lance, Ice Darts... Not just any icicles, but the ones you 'throw'... But of course, I'm a bit lost now... I'm looking for stronger 'icicle throwing' spells... All books (including third party, if reasonable) are allowed.

Kind regards,

Kano.

Foryn Gilnith
2009-10-01, 07:45 PM
Player's Guide to Faerun, page 44. Spell Thematics. Select "icicles" as your theme and now every single one of your spells can and should be described somehow as being icicle-related. Heck, if "screaming skulls" is a valid theme, icicles can be too.

Kanosint
2009-10-01, 07:52 PM
Player's Guide to Faerun, page 44. Spell Thematics. Select "icicles" as your theme and now every single one of your spells can and should be described somehow as being icicle-related. Heck, if "screaming skulls" is a valid theme, icicles can be too.

I try to limit that... I have a few refluffs, though I try to go for spells which are thematically close. Thanks, though.

Pharaoh's Fist
2009-10-01, 07:53 PM
Glitterdust and Grease can be refluffed as snowflakes and slippery ice respectively.

Sleet Storm is pretty much already there.

Glimbur
2009-10-01, 07:55 PM
I'd poke through "It's Cold Outside" aka Frostburn for more Ice related spells.

Siosilvar
2009-10-01, 07:57 PM
Energy Substituted (cold) Scorching Ray?

Starbuck_II
2009-10-01, 08:14 PM
Glitterdust and Grease can be refluffed as snowflakes and slippery ice respectively.

Sleet Storm is pretty much already there.

Icde Slice works exactly like Grease but is a Ice spell in Frostburn (clerics know it).

Calmar
2009-10-01, 08:14 PM
A [cold] substituted fireball that burst into shards of ice? :smallwink:

Foryn Gilnith
2009-10-01, 08:25 PM
Icde Slice works exactly like Grease but is a Ice spell in Frostburn (clerics know it).

Except the initial fall is a Balance check rather than a Reflex save...

A tad OP. Time for the knee-jerk reflexive banhammer...

Pharaoh's Fist
2009-10-01, 09:02 PM
Except the initial fall is a Balance check rather than a Reflex save...

A tad OP. Time for the knee-jerk reflexive banhammer...

Balance check vs DC10 is about as hard to achieve as a reflex save vs DC15 or higher.

sonofzeal
2009-10-01, 09:17 PM
Balance check vs DC10 is about as hard to achieve as a reflex save vs DC15 or higher.
Except for most characters, it doesn't exactly scale. You could nail most CR20 corporeal land-based things this way. Most dragons... well they fly, but they generally have a net +0 Balance mod regardless of type or level.

Pharaoh's Fist
2009-10-01, 09:37 PM
Orb of Cold is an obvious one, I suppose.

Worira
2009-10-02, 01:14 AM
Player's Guide to Faerun, page 44. Spell Thematics. Select "icicles" as your theme and now every single one of your spells can and should be described somehow as being icicle-related. Heck, if "screaming skulls" is a valid theme, icicles can be too.

I've always loved Spell Thematics. First, because the idea of spending a feat to refluff spells is hilarious, and second, because I love the thought of a wizard casting every one of his spells as screaming skulls. Not just skulls in general, screaming skulls.

TheOOB
2009-10-02, 02:52 AM
Icde Slice works exactly like Grease but is a Ice spell in Frostburn (clerics know it).

Yes because clerics don't already cover enough roles, lets make them wizards too(sarcasm)

SparkMandriller
2009-10-02, 04:14 AM
Icicle fall!

Actually maybe you want to avoid icicle fall.

Radiun
2009-10-02, 04:20 AM
Sudden Stalagmite (Spell Compendium pg 213)
Reflavoured to be an icicle shooting up from the ground and impaling people of course.

AslanCross
2009-10-02, 04:52 AM
Ice Flowers, but that's a cleric spell if I'm not mistaken.

Kanosint
2009-10-02, 09:04 AM
Ice Flowers is indeed a Cleric spell. And while most of these are all fun spells (and most are indeed on my list as more specific spells) for pure 'I shoot icicles from my hands', there aren't that many so far... Orb of Cold, most likely, and Cone of Cold can be refluffed...

Are the Ice Dagger, Ice Knife, Ice Lance spells really stopped there?

Violet Octopus
2009-10-02, 09:27 AM
From Frostburn:
Conjure Ice Beast, for sentient flying icicles that you can just always have start from your hand.
Icicle

From PHB2:
Cloud of Knives, refluffed

Sliver
2009-10-02, 09:41 AM
You can always reaserch a spell like Ice BFS..

Cyclocone
2009-10-02, 10:04 AM
Iceberg from It's-Cold-Outside.

Just think of it as alot of icicles in really, really close formation.