Obvious feat cribbed from GURPS

[Melamoto]

Common Sense [General]

Benefit
Any time you start to do something the DM feels is STUPID, he will roll a wisdom check of DC 10. A successful roll means he must warn you: "Hadn't you better think about that?"


Didn't put it in the homebrew section because I thought it would be better here, plus it was almost word for word stolen from the GURPS rulebook.

Would you use it?

[stenver]

no. If player is stupid, then hes stupid.

[Melamoto]

He can slowly learn from his mistakes at the cost of a feat. And depending on their Wisdom they could have a less than 50/50 chance. Think of the stupid people for once!

[Myou]

The would be like the Investigate feat - the DM will do this anyway.

[Ichneumon]

I wouldn't use it as the benefit of a feat shouldn't depend on the player acting foolish. The less stupid the player is, the more it feels like having wasted a feat. It also feels rather lame, not giving satisfaction when the DM has to warn you like that.

[Domigorgon]

I regularly ask my PCs to roll Int and Wis checks when they're stumped or are about to do something very stupid at key points in the game. If they figure stuff out by themselves, I award extra xp, and if I have to help them, I don't.

[Melamoto]

I wouldn't use it as the benefit of a feat shouldn't depend on the player acting foolish. The less stupid the player is, the more it feels like having wasted a feat. It also feels rather lame, not giving satisfaction when the DM has to warn you like that.

It's for people who are stupid or impulsive, and so to whom it won't be a waste of a feat. And it's better to have the DM warn you than to end up going through with it. Just let the people who aren't very good be able to play with the people who are without causing a TPK every time they get an idea.

[kamikasei]

It's for people who are stupid or impulsive, and so to whom it won't be a waste of a feat. And it's better to have the DM warn you than to end up going through with it. Just let the people who aren't very good be able to play with the people who are without causing a TPK every time they get an idea.

Why would you make them spend a feat on this? Why wouldn't you just do it anyway whether they have a feat or not? Never mind that feats are bloody expensive in D&D compared to a point-buy system.

[KillianHawkeye]

Waste of a feat.

[Melamoto]

Well, alternatively it could be a passive Skill Trick.

[kamikasei]

Why should it require the player to spend any character-building resources at all?

Conceptually: so it's a check that tests your "common sense". And it's modeled as a Wisdom check. So characters with high Wisdom have more common sense, and those with low have less. I see no need to do other than just introduce the checks themselves as a houserule, and let the characters' existing stats do the rest.

[KillianHawkeye]

Why should it require the player to spend any character-building resources at all?

Conceptually: so it's a check that tests your "common sense". And it's modeled as a Wisdom check. So characters with high Wisdom have more common sense, and those with low have less. I see no need to do other than just introduce the checks themselves as a houserule, and let the characters' existing stats do the rest.

I agree. Every DM I have ever known will just drop a hint if they feel you're about to do something incredibly foolish. The feat just punishes the character for something that is a problem with the player.

[Ichneumon]

I agree. Every DM I have ever known will just drop a hint if they feel you're about to do something incredibly foolish. The feat just punishes the character for something that is a problem with the player.

Agreed, that's what I tried to say, but you said it better.