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Akisa
2009-10-12, 11:39 AM
I was thinking as a joke put a Girdle of Femininity/Masculinity but with some bonus for level group of level 4 of non existent players. It would have +2 Str and +1 Luck to Damage and Attack.

So I'm wondering if anyone have characters that would use it?

For casters would they put on +2 ability bonus revelation caster stat and +1 DC to spells?

Note this for D&D 3.5. and 50% rp game...

jiriku
2009-10-12, 11:51 AM
I would totally do that, and crack up the game so badly by talking in falsetto and winking flirtatiously at all of the DM's NPCs (and thus, at the DM) that I'd quickly get buried under a sudden falll of rocks plummeting from the clear blue sky.

Edwin
2009-10-12, 11:53 AM
Only if I started out wearing it.

Suddenly, and without planning it, changing gender wreaks havoc with character development.

Now, if I prepared a character with the specific purpose of being a gender-switched man/woman sort of thing, I could definitely see myself wearing.

Well, not myself literally.. Awkward. :smalleek:

Dixieboy
2009-10-12, 11:57 AM
I would totally do that, and crack up the game so badly by talking in falsetto and winking flirtatiously at all of the DM's NPCs (and thus, at the DM) that I'd quickly get buried under a sudden falll of rocks plummeting from the clear blue sky.

This, very much this.

Stephen_E
2009-10-12, 11:59 AM
A longtime ago I had a character in 1st ed who would've put on the girdle under those circumstances. A Wixard called Ganaeus. Loved Wands of Wonder. Used one in an encounter with a Dragon resulting in the dragon growing grass on it's scales which the Druid cast entangle on. :-)

That's the only character I've had that I can recall who would be remotely interested in doing so.

Thank how few RL people would do such a thing. Most people have their world view fairly heavily routed in their sexual identity. Transexuals/transgenders are a fairly small part of the population.

Stephen E

Coidzor
2009-10-12, 11:59 AM
Only after remove curse or whatever ability was available to the party for most of my characters.

I think my underdeveloped androgynous rogue (basically flanderizing a certain board member) I made for the Shackled City game my friends started up and abandoned would put it on to really keep the party guessing.

My clerics would probably not put it on in any circumstances. My dwarven cleric was partially inspired by Pratchett's discworld dwarves, so either he wouldn't care/let on if he put it on, since all dwarves are dwarves anyway or he'd be incredibly disgusted by the idea of letting on airs of gender that he'd try to destroy it.

paddyfool
2009-10-12, 12:14 PM
I can see throwing an all one-gender party a real dilemma along these lines:

"So, we've this awesome item of awesome that you'll need to defeat the big bad. But to carry it, you'll need to be a [man/woman, delete as appropriate]. Luckily, we also have a Girdle of Femininity/Masculinity handy."

Obviously, the nature of the tempting item would have to depend on the party and context - there'd be few enough that would really appeal to every player and be thematically appropriate. For a high-level party without access to level 9 spells, maybe a luck blade with two or three Wishes inside it, if you're up against a (probably modified) Tarrasque or other monster that needs Wish to finish it off.

kamikasei
2009-10-12, 12:19 PM
It occurs to me that of the characters I've played or made, none are so in-character power-gamery as to want the boost at the cost of such an "inconvenience", and those who would view it as an interesting opportunity rather than an inconvenience already have some sort of shape-changing ability (a changeling character, for instance, would pick it up without hesitation).

Of course, it also depends on how starved for wealth the party is (in absolute terms, and relative to their needs), and just what the item does and how crucial it is to them. If you're asking whether any of my characters might, under some circumstance, be willing to be gender-swapped indefinitely as a side effect of some important pursuit, then probably most would have some point at which they'd accept it.

Myou
2009-10-12, 12:20 PM
Bad idea, you're persuading players to go completely againt their character's personality for the sake of some bonuses. As said, most people are set in their gender and would be very unhappy about a sudden gender change, and in a world with real magic, those who actually wanted to be another gender could be without this.

Moriato
2009-10-12, 12:23 PM
It would have ... +1 Luck to Damage and Attack.

So... it changes your gender and helps you get lucky more often?

Mando Knight
2009-10-12, 12:23 PM
As a player, I often go by the principle of "Whatever gives the most plusses."

For the character, if the character did not know about the sex-change effect, they'd generally go for it. With knowledge of the effect, it depends on the character.

I would definitely at least keep it handy, as per the Batman principle.

Zaydos
2009-10-12, 12:26 PM
As a player: It might be fun to play a character who had to go through this sudden change. It might be quite enjoyable to actually try and role-play how that worked. That said I fail at playing girls altogether.

As a character: I've had very, very few who would put it on for the bonus at the cost of the curse. While as a player the curse might attract me to the item, my characters tend to be more attached to their gender than I am to their gender.

Ravens_cry
2009-10-12, 12:27 PM
The Munchkin would wear it for the bonuses, the Loonie would wear it for the laughs, the Real Rolepalyer would wear it for the character conflict. The only one unlikely to wear it would be the Real Man.
Me? I would.

Telonius
2009-10-12, 12:29 PM
Praxus Talonborn, Moon Elf Sorcerer (male), Arcane Devotee of Selune. Probably would have if it were a gift from Selune, but not otherwise.

Phido, middle-aged Shifter Rogue/Wizard/MasterofMasks/Arcane Trickster (male), conman extraordinaire, would only do it if he were on the run from the Guard and it was the only way to escape.

Mordechai, Lesser Drow Monk (male) with Vow of Poverty wouldn't have. It would violate his vow, no reason for him to do it.

Single-session character Changeling (female) Beguiler whose name I can't remember would put it on without hesitation. Seriously, she's a changeling. Like gender matters?

penbed400
2009-10-12, 12:49 PM
My current player would probably wear it and make a deal with the cleric to cast remove curse every other day and switch genders every other day simply for the chaos it would bring not only with the confusion of his members but with how all of the mixture of hormones inside of him would make him go...he's crazy :-D

Then I had a Druid earlier that was sporting the Vow of Nonviolence & Vow of Peace combo which...probably had made him a girl already so why not have the belt put on?

In RL I would probably pass on that, I'm good with the parts the random dice rolling gods gave me.

kamikasei
2009-10-12, 12:52 PM
In RL I would probably pass on that, I'm good with the parts the random dice rolling gods gave me.

If it comes with a guaranteed-to-work item of remove curse I'd wear it in a shot. Can you imagine the learning opportunity?

NoldorForce
2009-10-12, 12:59 PM
It depends on the characters, really. I'd be more likely to use it simply because I enjoy playing shapechanging characters, changelings in particular.

Piedmon_Sama
2009-10-12, 01:01 PM
Depends on my PC in question!

Beogar, Half-Orc Druid: Too shy.

Aisha, Psychic Warrior: Would wonder if the gods put this in her path as a new test, might try it.

Young Male, Neanderthal Barbarian: He might put it on without realizing what it was, but if he did he'd pass. In his paleolithic worldview, it's somewhat bad luck to be a female.

Finn Connors, Rogue/Fighter: "Ohhh no, not fer all th'tea in Cathay," he'd say.

Canio, Swashbuckler: He's devoted to pursuing his lady-love, how could he meet her like that?

Dieter Krauss, Cleric: He's always been spurned by women in the past... now perhaps he might at last learn their secrets! Tempting, but... could it be reversed? Secretly?

Toliudar
2009-10-12, 01:02 PM
About half of my characters would probably agree to wear it, especially in a context in which Remove Curse is fairly available. Because haven't you ever wanted to know?

gdiddy
2009-10-12, 01:36 PM
Characters that I've plaid recently:

Sir Thomas Falhurst - Jousting Jock and chauvanist extraordinaire. He would honestly consider the item to be the work of demons. Nothing else could possibly be so evil as to denigrade the barrier between men and women.

Richard le Rocque - Fey Warlock and general Bad Person. In a heart beat he would wear it any given day, but mostly just to hurt people emotionally. The belt would bring his strength up to 8. So if he put it on, it wouldn't be for the "benefit".


I'm also playing with a play by post character, but I don't have enough of a feel for him yet to say either way.

Aron Times
2009-10-12, 01:47 PM
Changelings can switch genders at will (in both 3.5 and 4E), and can basically ignore the curse aspect of the item, unless you use DM fiat to lock the changeling's gender until it is removed. This is still not much of a problem for changelings, as they're basically bisexual by default (with that whole at will gender switching thing going on).

Foryn Gilnith
2009-10-12, 01:51 PM
Hm, my characters...

1) Dragonkin Warblade. Nobody would notice a gender change, but he's too attached to/insecure about his masculinity to try it.
2) Gestalt Warblade//dip classes. He'd probably consider it, but this character is in a group with people who would both profit more from it and be more comfortable with the change. He'd pass it over.
3) Warforged Rogue. No gender identity. If the bonus works, it would try.
4) Epic Cleric. Slight lecher. Would try it out, but unlikely to keep it on indefinitely.

Could you stack two Girdles to return yourself to normal gender?

bosssmiley
2009-10-12, 02:33 PM
I'd have any of my characters put on the standard issue cursed version, just for the lulz.

Anyone who wouldn't needs to work on their gamer-fu. This is a game about tomb-robbing killer hobos in a world of magic and madness, not '-ing Shakespeare. Why not pour on all the bizarre you can get (http://jrients.blogspot.com/2009/09/labyrinths-mutants.html)?

"Hey, pass me that Arduin Grimoire..."

Tiki Snakes
2009-10-12, 03:06 PM
A Good portion of my characters would indeed. Infact, at least one of them would benefit immensely from it. (Drow male.)

BloodyAngel
2009-10-12, 07:51 PM
If remove curse is available to get it off... then I can't think of many characters of mine who wouldn't at least be insanely curious. In fact, if such an item were to exist in real life, and I had access to the way to remove it, I'd probably try out a few days as a boy. I suspect I'd be a very girly boy though, just due to my small size.

However in the case that the thing is permanent... No. Not many people would want to permanently alter their gender like that. I can't think of a single character I've made who would do that intentionally.

Mushroom Ninja
2009-10-12, 08:45 PM
Mmmm... Bonuses... Sexy, sexy bonuses...

That being said, only one of the characters I'm currently running would put it on.

ShadowFighter15
2009-10-12, 08:48 PM
My duskblade character (the one I have as an avatar) would probably use it if he needed a disguise, but he wouldn't put up with a gender-swap just to get those bonuses.

A female warblade character I'm using in an Eberron game would probably just have a whole "can't be bothered" opinion about it.

Project_Mayhem
2009-10-12, 09:17 PM
The fact that irl I would be straight on that, and the fact that I was mildly surprised that most people here wouldn't, suggests that my gender identity is perhaps less fixed than I thought it was. Ah.

Tyndmyr
2009-10-12, 09:30 PM
A longtime ago I had a character in 1st ed who would've put on the girdle under those circumstances. A Wixard called Ganaeus. Loved Wands of Wonder. Used one in an encounter with a Dragon resulting in the dragon growing grass on it's scales which the Druid cast entangle on. :-)

That's the only character I've had that I can recall who would be remotely interested in doing so.

Thank how few RL people would do such a thing. Most people have their world view fairly heavily routed in their sexual identity. Transexuals/transgenders are a fairly small part of the population.

Stephen E

Oh, you know half the male population would try it. Admit to it? Probably not. Curiosity a powerful thing, especially if it requires as little danger/commitment as the girdle does in the D&D world.

I've had a few characters that would happily abuse such a thing. At an absolute minimum, it's one free escape mechanism when being hunted, as shown by our very own OOTS.

Mando Knight
2009-10-12, 09:45 PM
If remove curse is available to get it off... then I can't think of many characters of mine who wouldn't at least be insanely curious. In fact, if such an item were to exist in real life, and I had access to the way to remove it, I'd probably try out a few days as a boy. I suspect I'd be a very girly boy though, just due to my small size.

However in the case that the thing is permanent... No. Not many people would want to permanently alter their gender like that. I can't think of a single character I've made who would do that intentionally.

My way of thinking is pretty close to that. If I could become a girl for a few hours (or days...) through a totally reversible magical process, I probably couldn't resist, just to see what it's like. If it's irreversible, then I'd have to think a long time about it, and probably consult the people I trust the most before trying it.

Captain Six
2009-10-12, 10:02 PM
My most recent characters:

Agle, Human Female Warlock: She would NOT. She knows she is perfect in every way, she is proud of her looks, she would have no idea how to act as a guy.

Rynn, Human Female Sorcerer: She would be temped but wouldn't in the end. She's shy, she likes a certain boy and she's already an illusionist (in 2e when that meant something) so looking and feeling the part isn't a problem. Otherwise she is fascinated with shape shifting and seeing the world through different eyes, it's the permanency of it that would cause problems.

Theodore, Half-orc Male Ranger/Rogue/Barbarain: Knows he would not make a pretty girl. As a guy he's pretty good looking, if masculine men is your thing.

Venec, Human Male Wu Jen/Warlock: He would. He has very close ties with fey and their liberal view on sexuality. He'd have a few laughs and decide which he likes better later. Also he thinks lesbians are hot.

Xethryn, Changeling Male Duskblade: Until recently he didn't know people actually discriminated potential sexual partners based on gender. Even though he knows he doesn't really understand why. To him donning that belt ranks about the same as dying his hair.

Zaydos
2009-10-12, 10:10 PM
If I had to list characters I've played...

Well known of my early characters would have (age 6-7) it would have been why?
Skipping forward.
I can see Nent my halfling sorcerer with brass dragon blood (in a Core only 3e so none of those awesome feats just self limitation on spells known) doing it especially if it was reversible.

Erdrick my fighter-barbarian exotic weapon specialist who followed wouldn't have touched it with a 10-ft pole except to smash it with his sword; he hated and feared magic altogether.

Most of my following characters never developed the personality to make a decision as I was the only one capable of running three adventures in a row out of my friends.

Finally we get to:

Zantar: My wizard-druid who wouldn't have put it on but would definitely have taken it to study... it's magic he must study magic.

And Zanar: A feylock who wouldn't put it on because as a warlock the bonuses are eh and temporary magic to do the same thing was abundant (I let my players look at books I shouldn't have).

Most of my characters would almost never put it on, but I've had ones who would.

Not Five
2009-10-13, 12:37 AM
Terrence Mostly, thespian and warlock-servant to the blasphemous silverodeon of Lum the Mad... would shrug, smile wryly, mutter a prayer to his patron goddess (of irony and change) and buckle it on. (To the accompaniment of an otherwordly, eldritch, and totally inappropriate tune, but with Terrence that's usually not worth mentioning.)

Mish', irreverent scion of an ancient dragonborn Secret Service-esque lineage... would do pretty much the same thing as the above, but might take it off later if she found it just too weird.

Chruaam wouldn't make much of a deal of it--male or female, he's still just a skin of flesh over a MILLION HOJILLION BEES--but would wear it regardless.

The warforged Rhmm, ancient metal relic of the Old Days, would put it on immediately, wondering how that would possibly work.

Khanderas
2009-10-13, 02:03 AM
I kinda like it, In my mind there is noone crafting cursed items just for fun.
To me, cursed items are simply attempts at making a magic item that was botched for whatever reason (tainted materials, mispronounced spells, door-to-door salesman interrupts, demonic/angelic/chaos/law influence), and this is a simple case of somone trying to make a custom belt, but didnt get it quite right.

Though I problebly change the "cannot take it off" part of a cursed item though. Being a flawed (but intended positive) item it just hurts to remove, along with a 24 hour temp neg level.

All in all, a desirable item to wear, and if done sucessfully should prod a "numbers person" to try to think outside his/her box.


Perhaps.

BooNL
2009-10-13, 02:41 AM
If it comes with a guaranteed-to-work item of remove curse I'd wear it in a shot. Can you imagine the learning opportunity?

You know you're asking for trouble right? I was just statting up the treasure charts for the RHoD :smalltongue:.

That said, I think this item is wonderful. Cursed items in particular are pretty cool. Giving them a strong bonus to incite inner conflict is a cool way of introducing these items.

kamikasei
2009-10-13, 02:54 AM
You know you're asking for trouble right? I was just statting up the treasure charts for the RHoD :smalltongue:.

My character in your game probably wouldn't; I would. If you control treasure charts in real life that's kind of awesome and who do I have to beat up to afford a new computer?

PhoenixRivers
2009-10-13, 03:25 AM
Only if I started out wearing it.

Suddenly, and without planning it, changing gender wreaks havoc with character development.

Now, if I prepared a character with the specific purpose of being a gender-switched man/woman sort of thing, I could definitely see myself wearing.

Well, not myself literally.. Awkward. :smalleek:

So, as long as you don't have to roleplay the development, it's cool?

That kinda shift will wreak havoc on someone's life, regardless of when it happens, or whether you control it. In such chaos lies roleplay.

Ravens_cry
2009-10-13, 03:44 AM
I am not sure about my characters, but I would so put it on myself.
The learning potential would be fabulous. Besides that, yes, I am curious.

SoD
2009-10-13, 03:46 AM
Hmm...my previous characters?

"The" Shadow, Elan Lurk? Yeah. He would. Then again, he was insane, due to his mind being addled by a wizard.

Kasaad Shadowweb, Chitine Paladin of Freedom? No. Not a chance. He would never.

Brother Dvalr, Dwarven Monk? Nah.

Thudruk (any of them), Goblin X? No. Not their style.

Neither would Dvalr, evil Dwarven Rogue. Well, he might. If he needed it for a specific plan which would involve him getting rich.

Me? Real life? I'd be tempted. Very tempted. If it was reversable, I would in a heartbeat. However, irrevasable...my girlfriend might have issues with it.

ondonaflash
2009-10-13, 03:47 AM
I have a rogue who does not measure his character by what lies between his legs, so he'd probably throw it on as a sort of hide-in-plain sight trick, where, since he's wanted for murder in one city, he'd use it to throw off people who would recognize him. His tattoo would make sure the important people knew who he was.

Nai_Calus
2009-10-13, 05:06 AM
Let's see, looking at my sig chars.

Ephram: Possibly, he's not especially hung up on gender roles. If the required use of it would directly lead to being able to gain the redemption he seeks and him being reunited with his son, you'd probably have to fight him off of it.

Isri: Wouldn't care either way. Male, female, we're all Corellon's children and Corellon doesn't care and is both already anyway, so what does it matter?

Danien: Might do it for the lulz if it were easily reversible.

I'm of the opinion that most D&D warrior women would use it in a moment to get rid of the boobs and the menstruating and the idiotic boors in taverns.

I should make a TG character whose goal in life is to find some way of having his or her physical sex match his or her mental gender.

IRL, sure, I'd give it a go for a while.

Triaxx
2009-10-13, 05:19 AM
Triaxx, my multi talented reincarnating character: +2 to my casting stat, +1 to my AC and boobs? I'm not seeing a downside... Oh, right, the pregnancy thing.

Gorg, my Barbarian's barbarian: Gorg want more smash. Girl Gorg have anger issues. Girl Gorg smash!

'Fingers' Villem, the (Halfling) King of Thieves: Finally, they'll stop complaining about my catsuit.

Nero24200
2009-10-13, 05:34 AM
I can think of one of my PC's wearing it...though I suppose I should explain...this is the same PC who (despite being male), rushed out into a battle wearing a pink dress.

He learned his lesson though, never "try something on" in your room if your room just happens to be on a ship in pirate infested waters. Odds are, at the worst time, you'll need to run out to help your allies.

Quincunx
2009-10-13, 06:17 AM
Very valuable life lesson, that.

I. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That won't even stick to my perfect bod! Here, gimme that *bleep*, I know some people who need that kind of attitude adjustment!
(Tzimfemme ((the Nekkid)), cleric of sex-choc-and-rock'n'roll, scoops up the booty, later to loop it around someone in one of those interminable, pointless vendettas.)

II. omg no, that's disgusting! /o_o\
(Rydia, long-eared druid-bard, won't have any part of it.)

III. Ewwwwwwwwww BOY COOTIES no WAY!!!! Yuck yuck yuck yuck--wait does it work on undeads?
(Minta, neato necro gnomie girl, after piercing everyone's eardrums with shrieks, will dispatch an undead to handle it, if she makes the connection that it can be used to get rid of a boy.)

IV. What is within this will work upon what's outside, yet never escape.
(Rosemary was innocent when she was made a vampire--she has nothing to lose, and wears it to imprison and nullify the foul magic.)

V. . . .
(Sossity disbelieves in it.)

Drascin
2009-10-13, 06:17 AM
Playing three characters right now.

Taltha wouldn't be interested in the bonuses, and so don't care at all about the belt. If, and only if, it was easily reversible, she might try for research purposes, and actually note down the changes and any difference in mood or outlook caused by the hormonal shift. She's that kind of person.

Andrés... slim chance, really. He's just not wired like that. He might be tempted out of curiosity, but in the end he'd just leave it be.

Shin... most likely, yeah. He's a total powergamer. He needs power, and he needs it yesterday because being a demonslayer is kind of a high stakes career path, and anything that gives a considerable amount of power with no horrible soul-corrupting drawback is to be at least considered. On the other hand, he's built himself a reputation and nobody being able to know him by sight would be detrimental. Still, answer is likely yes.

GallóglachMaxim
2009-10-13, 06:23 AM
My last character would have tried it, all knowledge being worth having. Being as the DM of that game was a huge Greek mythology nerd, he probably would have gotten into an argument with some gods and been struck blind for his trouble, but that's the sort of thing that happens in his line of work.

In RL, I'd do it if there were a way of reversing it immediately avaliable. If I wanted to be a girl permenantly there are already options, the magic option is only good if it lets you switch back.

Grey Paladin
2009-10-13, 06:31 AM
Any adventurer would gladly put it on if the slot was open - survival is more important and every tiny advantage improves your chance not to die horribly. When you're back in civilization you can pay a priest to cast Remove Curse on you with all the riches you've plundered.

Volkov
2009-10-13, 07:02 AM
Bad idea, you're persuading players to go completely againt their character's personality for the sake of some bonuses. As said, most people are set in their gender and would be very unhappy about a sudden gender change, and in a world with real magic, those who actually wanted to be another gender could be without this.

Don't tempt Zagyg, he made that belt, and he already has a spell that can do just that. Not to mention he's an epic level demigod illusionist.

Grumman
2009-10-13, 07:25 AM
Assuming that we're disregarding "I've got better equipment already" as a reason...

Brandt (male halfling Monk/Rogue) wouldn't want to get cursed. If he was going to use the belt, he'd use Use Magic Device to trick it into treating him like a female halfling, therefore turning him into... a male halfling.

Akina (female tiefling Arcane Trickster) wouldn't. She is quite aware of the fact that everything is trying to kill her, and she isn't going to put something on that she knows is cursed.

Ashley (female spellwarped human gish) has enough problems with being spellwarped and having her hair fall out. She's not going to add insult to injury by turning herself into a man.

Neither the female human meta-mage whose name I can't remember or Jacob (male augmented human gish) would ever feel they needed the help.

Smith (warforged tank/artificer) is a warforged, and thus exempt.

Cally (female halfling paladin/dragoon) would rather avoid the sort of awkwardness that comes from coming home from your time as a knight-errant and telling your family that you're now a man.

Violet Octopus
2009-10-13, 08:12 AM
Zyasel would, considering she' a cleric of Boccob. It'd be a useful opportunity to compare the experience, and she'd probably spend months in the temple trying to find other people's recorded experiences.

Jan wouldn't, as he currently has issues with his own magic's effect on his life. He doesn't need any more to complicate the situation or draw more suspicion to himself.

Viola wouldn't have had a problem with it, she just had no particular interest in the mechanical benefit, or the experience. She had more important things to do, like destroying House Cannith. But she's in Dolurrh now. :smallfrown:

My long-forgotten playboy dread necromancer would have tried it. There's no point in living if you're not going to try new experiences.

Me? In a heartbeat. I'm cis, but not particularly attached to my body's sex. I'd probably do it even if it was irreversible. Too much curiosity.

woodenbandman
2009-10-13, 12:27 PM
My Warforged Beguiler would.

What now?

Glass Mouse
2009-10-13, 01:35 PM
My most recent characters?

Saromihe Ill'stra (female drow bard): would rather die. Okay, maybe she'd do it to save her life - but ONLY then. And she'd immediately have it Removed, then burned. Men are beneath her; why would she want to spend time as one?

Cianyciatic Enociaqui (female elf sorcerer): would probably let her curiousity get the better of her. After all, it's magic! What harm could it do?

Aramina (female half-elf rogue): doesn't care much about gender. Might put it on, if only in an attempt to give herself a "new" identity. Might even keep it; testeosterone = aggressions... kinda suits her.


But then again, my current GM has a "play your own gender" policy, so such an item is unlikely to ever show up. Might be a lot of fun in my own group, though.

Also, I play too many elves :smalltongue:

Telonius
2009-10-13, 02:43 PM
Oh yeah, IRL? Only if my wife got one too. :smallbiggrin:

Assassin89
2009-10-13, 03:17 PM
Of my 3.5 characters:

Adwren Solignis (Male Human Cleric): Might put it on. The guy has been fallen down a hole in the floor of an old building, knocked barely killed by a storm elemental, thrown down a well, almost killed by goblins, and "tentacle raped" by a negative energy battery, so changing gender would be minor compared to any of those.

Adwren Twinlead (Male Half-elf Cleric): I'm not sure if St. Cuthbert would approve of putting on the girdle, but if he did approve, probably not, because his bard cohort could annoy him more.

IRL? Probably not. I like being male.

mcv
2009-10-13, 05:45 PM
Thank how few RL people would do such a thing. Most people have their world view fairly heavily routed in their sexual identity. Transexuals/transgenders are a fairly small part of the population.


The fact that irl I would be straight on that, and the fact that I was mildly surprised that most people here wouldn't, suggests that my gender identity is perhaps less fixed than I thought it was. Ah.

Not everybody has a strong gender identity. In fact, I think a lot of non-transsexuals have a strong gender identity (unless they've culturally learned to identify mostly by their gender). Transsexuals actually have a very strong gender identity, which is why they go to such great pains to get their body's gender in line with their gender identity.

Personally, if there was an easy, hassle-free, consequence-free, easily reversible way to switch gender, I'd probably give it a try. Or would have when I was single.

If it's permanent or extremely hard to reverse, it's still a perfect solution for transsexuals, but most other people would stay far away from it. Same for PCs.

If it's uncursed or remove curse was easily availlable, it'd make an excellent disguise at the very least. I won't list all of my characters and what they'd do with it, but here are a few notable ones:

Accambale Burilgi, mysogynistic bastard of a barbarian, would never in his life put it on, no matter how easily reversible it might be, unless he thinks putting it on would somehow add to his legend. He'd definitely keep the girdle it to curse and disgrace his enemies with it, though.

Khaleen, Barsavian Warrior, wouldn't wear it, unless it's a sacrifice needed to conquer an obstacle or help the group (she's all about self-sacrifice). Then her group members would joke that they don't see any difference.

Maud Belinski, hyperactive, fickle spacer (wrong genre, sorry), would put it on just for laughs if it was reversible.

Herman Grootebroek, farmer, womanizer and Warlord, might put it on to get some insight into women, or maybe use it to approach otherwise unapproachable women. As if he'd need that. Hah!

mcv
2009-10-13, 05:53 PM
In RL, I'd do it if there were a way of reversing it immediately avaliable. If I wanted to be a girl permenantly there are already options, the magic option is only good if it lets you switch back.
If you wanted to be a girl permanently, the magic option is far better than any existing real life option. You have to be really, really desperate to consider transgender surgery. That kind of surgery doesn't turn you into a perfectly functioning, complete member of the opposite sex, and you wouldn't be the first to regret such surgery. Every transsexual would jump at the chance to use such magic.

Tokiko Mima
2009-10-13, 08:39 PM
What would a Girdle of Masculinity/Femininity do to a Changeling, I wonder? :smallamused:

Coidzor
2009-10-13, 08:54 PM
Nothing or it'd lock 'em into one, depending.

Nai_Calus
2009-10-13, 09:43 PM
If you wanted to be a girl permanently, the magic option is far better than any existing real life option. You have to be really, really desperate to consider transgender surgery. That kind of surgery doesn't turn you into a perfectly functioning, complete member of the opposite sex, and you wouldn't be the first to regret such surgery. Every transsexual would jump at the chance to use such magic.

This. Especially Female to Male transsexuals. The FtM surgeries are downright primitive and do not produce usable results. There are a lot of transmen who opt not to have the bottom surgery due to that fact. MtFs have it a bit easier, but it's still nowhere even remotely near perfect and they have to do a lot of maintainence.

Mando Knight
2009-10-13, 09:54 PM
Nothing or it'd lock 'em into one, depending.

Or it'd turn them into the opposite sex clone (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OppositeSexClone) of whatever they wanted to change into...

Tar Palantir
2009-10-13, 09:55 PM
90% of my characters have been undead or Warforged, for whom it really wouldn't matter. The other 10% have all been high-born noble types, for whom that could cause a lot of confusion when it comes to primogeniture-based aristocracies. Man, talk about awkward.

Akisa
2009-10-15, 02:22 AM
by the responses of this topic I should go ahead and do this when/if I get a group.

ShadowFighter15
2009-10-15, 02:47 AM
Couldn't hurt. I know I would, if only to see how the party as a whole reacts to it.