PDA

View Full Version : How Focused can you get? (Arcane)



Frog Dragon
2009-10-18, 12:36 PM
I was thinking about how many spell schools could you possibly lose. Right now I'm counting 5. 3 from Focused Specialist. 1 from Incantatrix and 1 from Red Wizard. Can you lose more?

Jack_Simth
2009-10-18, 12:43 PM
All of them. Use Disjunction on an Artifact until it takes, then fail the Will save. You lose all spellcasting ability, baring divine intervention.

Zaydos
2009-10-18, 12:45 PM
Play a warmage?

Ok, serious now. Well there is the Wizard of High Sorcery from Dragonlance Campaign Setting reprinted (and modified) in the Towers of High Sorcery books. In the reprint if you are specialized in one of the two schools associated with your Order you get benefits with that school but give up another school that is not associated with your Order. Plus you can get in with only 4 levels of wizard.

SurlySeraph
2009-10-18, 01:18 PM
So that's 6, if you use setting-specific PrCs from two different settings.

Thrice Dead Cat
2009-10-18, 02:43 PM
Admittedly, this requires a little cross-setting cheatery, but, here's my take.

First off, go Changeling. Take both the Focused Specialist and Changeling substitution levels. Congratulations, you've now lost 4 schools of magic. Take Racial Emulation and cheat you're way into Red Wizard: so long Divination! Next, go into Incantatrix and lose something that's not Abjuration.

That leaves you with you either Transmutation/Illusion, Abjuration, and "Universal" left to play with. Luckily, you don't care, because, as a Transmuter, you can simply make all spells Transmutation spells thanks to Unearthed Arcana. Whoops, looks like that only comes into play if you sacrifice your bonus feats for one specific spell.

Gralamin
2009-10-18, 03:56 PM
I was thinking about how many spell schools could you possibly lose. Right now I'm counting 5. 3 from Focused Specialist. 1 from Incantatrix and 1 from Red Wizard. Can you lose more?

The Text of the Red Wizard actually suggests you can voluntarily lose more schools.


In exchange for this, The Red Wizard must sacrifice study in one or more schools. The Red Wizard must choose an additional prohibited school or schools using the rules in the Player's Handbook.

Kylarra
2009-10-18, 04:01 PM
My guess is that it's a carryover from 3.0 where specialization could take a variable amount of schools depending on the "power" of the school being sacrificed.

Gralamin
2009-10-18, 04:07 PM
My guess is that it's a carryover from 3.0 where specialization could take a variable amount of schools depending on the "power" of the school being sacrificed.

Which would still mean that Divination specialists give up 1, and anything else gives up 2. But I've never seen it ruled that way or Errata'd :smallwink: