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Hat-Trick
2009-10-28, 08:04 PM
I was reading through the Combat Trapsmith and noticed that many of the traps have sucktastic DCs. Would ability focus help bring them up, or are they doomed to be ineffective?

Jack_Simth
2009-10-28, 08:21 PM
I was reading through the Combat Trapsmith and noticed that many of the traps have sucktastic DCs. Would ability focus help bring them up, or are they doomed to be ineffective?
Theoretically, yes, although your DM may or may not let you take Monstrous feats. But... well, DC 10+Class Level +Int Modifier isn't so bad for a PrC where you take your first level at 6th.

Hat-Trick
2009-10-28, 08:23 PM
It's only a five level PRC, would that change work?

Sstoopidtallkid
2009-10-28, 08:26 PM
Has anyone homebrewed that as a base class?

Hat-Trick
2009-10-28, 08:27 PM
I would play it in a heartbeat, but the closest thing I found was a Warrior Trap Smith that was more of a basic outline.

Jack_Simth
2009-10-28, 08:31 PM
It's only a five level PRC, would that change work?

What change? I've got Complete Scoundrel open, page 34 - "Some combat traps allow a saving throw, as noted in a trap's entry. The save DC is 10 + your combat trapsmith level + your Int modifier." - second column, 4th paragraph below the skill listings.

If you go into it as, say, Rogue-5/Trapsmith-X, then at character level 10 (Trapsmith-5), your save DC is 10+5+Int Mod - same as the Wizard's 5th level spells (although that's where you cap off).

Sstoopidtallkid
2009-10-28, 08:32 PM
What change? I've got Complete Scoundrel open, page 34 - "Some combat traps allow a saving throw, as noted in a trap's entry. The save DC is 10 + your combat trapsmith level + your Int modifier."

If you go into it as, say, Rogue-5/Trapsmith-X, then at character level 10 (Trapsmith-5), your save DC is 10+5+Int Mod - same as the Wizard's 5th level spells (although that's where you cap off).The problem is level 11, 12, and 20. The save DCs don't scale past 10.

Hat-Trick
2009-10-28, 08:33 PM
I erred, sorry. I took the crafting DC as the save DC. The problem now dissolves.

Jack_Simth
2009-10-28, 08:35 PM
The problem is level 11, 12, and 20. The save DCs don't scale past 10.
Yeah. That's actually a problem with a LOT of PrC's, and is in no way limited to the Combat Trapsmith.

Sstoopidtallkid
2009-10-28, 08:36 PM
Yeah. That's actually a problem with a LOT of PrC's, and is in no way limited to the Combat Trapsmith.10-level ones, not so much.