Wish and the Tippyverse

[Random832]

This thread: Exactly what it says on the tin. The 'official' tippyverse interpretation as far as I am aware is that where the rules leave something up to the DM (as with approval of epic spell development), it is resolved in favor of the character doing the spell.

So...
Yeah...
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[Sstoopidtallkid]

The Tippyverse, IIRC, uses Wish rarely and only for the purposes allowed in the spell. Generally, they use Efreeti for their free Wish SLA to get magic items and stat boosts. Never for anything unusual.

[tyckspoon]

Tippyverse DM approval extends only to the point of the DM saying yes when asked if something is allowed. That means all official WotC sources can be assumed, since the DM merely has to say 'yes, you can use that as it's written'. Likewise, if an Epic spell is crafted using only the written seeds, factors of said seeds, and mitigating factors, then the spell is legal. It does not mean the hypothetical DM will let you do whatever crap you can think of; the permissiveness ends at the point where the DM is required to actually invent something outside of a written rule, such as assigning a DC increase to an ad-hoc factor in an Epic spell or deciding what happens when you Wish for something outside the normal bounds of Wish (unless said use has been confirmed in another book, such as Savage Species' rituals for changing race.)

[Emperor Tippy]

What tyckspoon said. Wish is only used for the pre approved things, and even then it isn't exactly common (well beyond wish traps to continuously produce various magical items).

And to be honest, it is just generally avoided. Wish and Miracle get too close to really requiring DM adjudication. Same with Epic Casting. The Tippyverse doesn't need epic casting to function and generally doesn't use it. The only time that it really comes up is when the tippyverse is facing off against something that would practically require epic casting to defeat.

[Lycanthromancer]

The only time that it really comes up is when the tippyverse is facing off against something that would practically require epic casting to defeat.And considering what non-epic casting is capable of, this basically means elder gods and eldritch horrors like Hastur (Hastur, Hastur :smallwink:) and C'thulhu.

...Maybe.