Asbestos
2009-11-25, 02:09 AM
So, while on my biweekly 2.5hr train trip today I think I thought up a way to make paragon multiclassing be attractive for things other than Half-elves and not be generally very inferior to just taking a PP.
Now, I happen to like 4e's MC system, so this isn't a jab at that. But, I do feel that it doesn't hold up well past the initial power swaps because PP features are pretty outstanding and paragon multiclassers get nothing remotely similar.
Here's my houserule, please try to break it as much as possible via crazy combinations. My aim is to have it, at worst, be equal to the heights of current MC abuse (damn bard shenanigans) or several quite strong PPs. I don't want it to be better than PPs.
Paragon Multiclass
Prerequisite: Must have a multiclass feat.
11th Level: Versatile Action:
Choose one 11th level Action Point (not sure how to word this, but you know what I mean) Feature from a Paragon Path which has one of the classes you qualify for as a prerequisite.
11th Level: Expert Multiclasser:
You gain Hybrid Talent as a bonus feat, you may use it to pick one Hybrid class feature for a class you have a Multiclass Feat for. If you possess a Multiclass feat that provides an ability related to a Hybrid feature (e.g. Sneak Attack from Rogue MC or 1/day Healing Word from cleric MC) you may choose to retrain that feat to another Multiclass feat that does not provide some version of that feature. If you do not retrain the Multiclass feat, you may not choose a Hybrid feature related to your Multiclass feature when you gain your Hybrid Talent feat. ((Explanation: I saw easy abuse here that would let MC characters be more Hybridized than Hybrids, which is not the goal of this houserule. However, it is verrrry clunky wording so if anyone has a better suggestion for how to phrase it that'd be great.))
16th Level: Paragon Multiclasser (or whatever)
You may choose the 16th level feature of a paragon path for which one of the classes you qualify as is a prerequisite for. This may not be the same class used to gain the 11th level Action Point Feature.
Power selection follows the standard format for Paragon Multiclassing.
Things I'm aware might cause a problem: Crazy Hybrid characters, Half-elf Bards, Bards in general, ultra-powerful paragon path features I overlooked or did not consider.
Now, I happen to like 4e's MC system, so this isn't a jab at that. But, I do feel that it doesn't hold up well past the initial power swaps because PP features are pretty outstanding and paragon multiclassers get nothing remotely similar.
Here's my houserule, please try to break it as much as possible via crazy combinations. My aim is to have it, at worst, be equal to the heights of current MC abuse (damn bard shenanigans) or several quite strong PPs. I don't want it to be better than PPs.
Paragon Multiclass
Prerequisite: Must have a multiclass feat.
11th Level: Versatile Action:
Choose one 11th level Action Point (not sure how to word this, but you know what I mean) Feature from a Paragon Path which has one of the classes you qualify for as a prerequisite.
11th Level: Expert Multiclasser:
You gain Hybrid Talent as a bonus feat, you may use it to pick one Hybrid class feature for a class you have a Multiclass Feat for. If you possess a Multiclass feat that provides an ability related to a Hybrid feature (e.g. Sneak Attack from Rogue MC or 1/day Healing Word from cleric MC) you may choose to retrain that feat to another Multiclass feat that does not provide some version of that feature. If you do not retrain the Multiclass feat, you may not choose a Hybrid feature related to your Multiclass feature when you gain your Hybrid Talent feat. ((Explanation: I saw easy abuse here that would let MC characters be more Hybridized than Hybrids, which is not the goal of this houserule. However, it is verrrry clunky wording so if anyone has a better suggestion for how to phrase it that'd be great.))
16th Level: Paragon Multiclasser (or whatever)
You may choose the 16th level feature of a paragon path for which one of the classes you qualify as is a prerequisite for. This may not be the same class used to gain the 11th level Action Point Feature.
Power selection follows the standard format for Paragon Multiclassing.
Things I'm aware might cause a problem: Crazy Hybrid characters, Half-elf Bards, Bards in general, ultra-powerful paragon path features I overlooked or did not consider.