Concentration for Autohypnosis?

[Bookworm702]

I would like your opinion on this. Would it be balanced to allow concentration checks to act like autohypnosis checks?

[erikun]

Autohypnosis is actually pretty good, especially at higher bonuses (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/skills.htm#autohypnosis). The fact that you lose no actions trying to Autohypnosis means that anyone can try the DC 20 and DC 30 check to stablize/remain conscious. When they get to higher bonuses, there is no reason not to try rolling DC 60 every day to see if you can get temp HP or DR. This just makes spellcasters (who already buy Concentration) better, and Fighters (who don't have it as a class skill) less so.

With magical items that can grant a bonus to any skill check, making those higher checks will be quite possible. Level 10: 13 ranks + 3 (Skill Focus) + 2 (Autonomous) + 5 (20 CON) + 5 (magical item) = +28 to the check.

[Ernir]

Not something I would do. Autohypnosis isn't an awful skill to have, and this would just give its benefits to classes that have Concentration in-class, which are mostly casters.

Still, it isn't going to break anything to smithereens, I think. Just a small boost to casters and Diamond Mind users. (And it might hurt the feelings of the classes that have Autohypnosis as one of their "things". :smalltongue:)

Is there a particular reason for you wanting to do this?

[Bookworm702]

I just thought my players would enjoy the goodness that it provides. Maybe give it to them with a minus five penalty, like spellcraft and use magic device? Or heck, maybe even give the melee fighters autohypnosis as a class skill.

[Pharaoh's Fist]

Or heck, maybe even give make the melee fighters autohypnosis as a class skill psychic warriors.

Fixed it for you.

[Kantolin]

I do agree with giving most melee fighters autohypnosis as a class skill. That'd only help.

[9mm]

I do agree with giving most melee fighters autohypnosis as a class skill. That'd only help.

to bad they'll uniformly not have the skill points to take ranks in it though.

the whole "just give them class skills" fix doesn't work unless you up their skill points to around 4-6.

[Kantolin]

Er... I didn't mean 'giving fighter-types autohypnosis will utterly fix all the problems with them', or anything of the sort. It's just a mild perk.

That said, I do agree - a lot of classes don't have enough skill points to do most things. This actually isn't as big of a problem for fighters themselves, but paladins (for example) generally need skills in a few places (ride, potentially concentration) to use their class features. Thus that's something to keep in mind.

Still, it can't /hurt/ to give more classes autohypnosis access. :P

[Kaiyanwang]

to bad they'll uniformly not have the skill points to take ranks in it though.

the whole "just give them class skills" fix doesn't work unless you up their skill points to around 4-6.

This (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/buildingCharacters/alternativeSkillSystems.htm) could help. Look for Level-Based Skills

[Prime32]

The monk class should definitely have Autohypnosis as a class skill. That's not enough to save it, but it's something I include when I try to write fixes.