Don't Split The Party spoilers.

[Sewblon]

Don't Split The Party has a chart near the beginning that outlines character relationships, which confirms that Belkar wants to lay Vaarsuvius, so vindication! Being proven right about something OOTS related feels weird.

[CoffeeIncluded]

Really? What else does it say?

[Sewblon]

Really? What else does it say?

The only other thing that the comic hasn't explicitly revealed yet that I found is that Sabine wants to lay Kevin Bacon. But it may have other things that I haven't noticed yet.

[Ted The Bug]

And it also lays the foundation for what I would actually love as a gag-a-day comic: Farmers of the Dirt!

[Atronach]

Are we supposed to be disturbed, or confused by what Belkar wants? I vote disturbed.

[Sewblon]

Are we supposed to be disturbed, or confused by what Belkar wants? I vote disturbed.

Why is it either in this instance? Belkar and Vaarsuvius have a few things in common, the lust for XP, the impulsive, arrogant tendencies. And curiosity can make people do all sorts of desperate, pathetic things. That isn't even mentioning the drunken New-Years kiss.

[DBJack]

Then on the page afterwards is the 'Crack Pairing' outline of relationships. :smallamused:

[SaintRidley]

Why is it either in this instance? Belkar and Vaarsuvius have a few things in common, the lust for XP, the impulsive, arrogant tendencies. And curiosity can make people do all sorts of desperate, pathetic things. That isn't even mentioning the drunken New-Years kiss.

Or V's assessment of Belkar's personality.

Perhaps V's tour of the niftier side of the alignment pool reset Belkar's feelings back toward lust?

[Somewhere]

:vaarsuvius: Support for my theory continues to accrue at an alarming rate

[Kaytara]

I suppose that's as much proof as we need that the crack pairing mindset is contagious.

Okay. XD On a more serious note, I'm kind of happy. It promises hilarious developments. And I've always wondered what the hell the point of that whole New Year's Kiss storyline was if the Giant wasn't going to go SOMEWHERE with it.

[CoffeeIncluded]

Out of curiosity, what exactly does it say?

[Sewblon]

Then on the page afterwards is the 'Crack Pairing' outline of relationships. :smallamused:


Sadly no. Archiving that would have taken the entire book.

[Roderick_BR]

Wow, all that work to make Belkar to want to kill V gone to waste... :smalltongue:

[Zanaril]

So, now we know why Belkar gets killed. :smalltongue:

But just to judge, who else does Belkar want to sleep with? Because right now I'm imagining V being just one name on a list of every other non-male character.


Or V's assessment of Belkar's personality.

Perhaps V's tour of the niftier side of the alignment pool reset Belkar's feelings back toward lust?
Evil V was hawt.

[Porthos]

Out of curiosity, what exactly does it say?

The "Cast of Characters" page is (this time) a huge Relationship Diagram, where all of the characters are interconnected with relationship lines/arrows, along with affiliation bubbles. The lines are things like "Wants to kill", "Killed", "Is Employed by", etc.

One of the relationship lines is "Wants to shtup (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/shtup)". Among the lines of people who are connected by the "Wants to shtup" line is Belkar to V.

Sadly the line is not reciprocated. :smalltongue:

[Kaytara]

I always thought Belkar wanting to bang V would explain why he's so adamant about finding out V's gender. After all, he's "secure in his manhood". He wants to stay that way. XD

[CoffeeIncluded]

The "Cast of Characters" page is (this time) a huge Relationship Diagram, where all of the characters are interconnected with relationship lines/arrows, along with affiliation bubbles. The lines are things like "Wants to kill", "Killed", "Is Employed by", etc.

One of the relationship lines is "Wants to shtup (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/shtup)". Among the lines of people who are connected by the "Wants to shtup" line is Belkar to V.

Sadly the line is not reciprocated. :smalltongue:

Thank you! :smallbiggrin:

[Haven]

...by any chance is there a schtup line between Sabine and Haley?

[Sewblon]

...by any chance is there a schtup line between Sabine and Haley? No schtup line connects Haley and Sabine.
So, now we know why Belkar gets killed. :smalltongue:

But just to judge, who else does Belkar want to sleep with? Because right now I'm imagining V being just one name on a list of every other non-male character.


Evil V was hawt. Belkar's only schtup line leads to Vaarsuvius, which makes me wonder what Belkar's reaction would be if Vaarsuvius turned out to be male.

[Zanaril]

No schtup line connects Haley and Sabine. Belkar's only schtup line leads to Vaarsuvius, which makes me wonder what Belkar's reaction would be if Vaarsuvius turned out to be male.

Really? Not even Haley?

That confirms it, VxBelkar is definitely going to get some screen time.

[CoffeeIncluded]

Really? Not even Haley?

That confirms it, VxBelkar is definitely going to get some screen time.

*Grins wickedly and nods*

And hey, it's not like it can't be done if they're both guys. On the contrary, considering the female-fanfic-writer stereotype...:amused:

[Porthos]

Really? Not even Haley?

That confirms it, VxBelkar is definitely going to get some screen time.

The "wants to schtup" line was a bit of a joke, IMO, since the only other time the line is seen is an arrow from Sabine to Kevin Bacon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Bacon). :smallwink:

[The Dark Fiddler]

The "wants to schtup" line was a bit of a joke, IMO, since the only other time the line is seen is an arrow from Sabine to Kevin Bacon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Bacon). :smallwink:

Confirmed: Kevin Bacon shall replace Belkar when he dies. This is now canon. :smalltongue:

Well, where else would it be? Elan and Haley? Roy and Celia? They're in relationships already.

[SaintRidley]

Confirmed: Kevin Bacon shall replace Belkar when he dies. This is now canon. :smalltongue:

Well, where else would it be? Elan and Haley? Roy and Celia? They're in relationships already.

And already schtupping. No need to want to at all.

[Zanaril]

The "wants to schtup" line was a bit of a joke, IMO, since the only other time the line is seen is an arrow from Sabine to Kevin Bacon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Bacon). :smallwink:

Just because it's a joke doesn't mean it's not true.

[Sewblon]

Really? Not even Haley?

That confirms it, VxBelkar is definitely going to get some screen time. Not even Haley. Lets pray that it doesn't devolve into eternally unresolved sexual tension.
The "wants to schtup" line was a bit of a joke, IMO, since the only other time the line is seen is an arrow from Sabine to Kevin Bacon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Bacon). :smallwink: Not true. Tsukiko has a "wants to schtup" line that leads to Xykon.

[Porthos]

Well, where else would it be?

My bad. There was also a "Wants to Shutp" Arrow from Tsukiko to Xykon. :smalltongue:

[Kish]

And already schtupping. No need to want to at all.
I wouldn't think they'd keep doing it if they didn't want to. :smalltongue:

[Sewblon]

I wouldn't think they'd keep doing it if they didn't want to. :smalltongue: Haven't you ever heard of denial sex?
Confirmed: Kevin Bacon shall replace Belkar when he dies. This is now canon. :smalltongue:

I don't really see Kevin Bacon as a psychotic halfling ranger.

[Fitzclowningham]

Rich has a "Dating/Shtupping" line connecting Elan/Haley, Daigo/Kazumi and Sabine/Nale.

[Shale]

I don't really see Kevin Bacon as a psychotic halfling ranger.

Maybe not YET.

[CapedLuigiYoshi]

Has anyone noticed that the Oracle isn't connected to anyone?

[Sewblon]

Has anyone noticed that the Oracle isn't connected to anyone?

Everyone loses their memories of him when they leave the Sunken Valley, so it makes sense.

[veti]

Everyone loses their memories of him when they leave the Sunken Valley, so it makes sense.

But the Oracle has a positive animosity towards Roy, and actively hates Belkar. And he wants to schtup (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0566.html) Grendel's hot mom. Surely that should be worth some lines?

[Sewblon]

But the Oracle has a positive animosity towards Roy, and actively hates Belkar. And he wants to schtup (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0566.html) Grendel's hot mom. Surely that should be worth some lines? No lines in that particular chart describe hatred, and Grendel's mom hasn't appeared in OOTS.

[Ancalagon]

Comment page before 623, left colum, last sentence of 3rd paragraph.

Guess:
Vaarsuvius' killed a/the guardian black dragon bear one of the gates, probably in Serini's Dungeon.

Someone is going to have a very, very nasty surprise, I think.

[Zanaril]

Comment page before 623, left colum, last sentence of 3rd paragraph.

Guess:
Vaarsuvius' killed a/the guardian black dragon bear one of the gates, probably in Serini's Dungeon.

Someone is going to have a very, very nasty surprise, I think.
...Care to elaborate?

[Ancalagon]

...Care to elaborate?

Read the sentence?

Rich writes Vaarsuvius has not yet seen the consequences of the familliar spell. Given his further comment of "killing things just based on what they are" is wrong we have to ponder what could be the consequence.
We know it has to do with something with a "dead black dragon" (familice, you know?).
We also know that Serini filled her Dungeon with the most powerful monsters, reflecting Kragor's belief in physical might.

So, what would be the worst outcome? There was a black-dragon-guardian in the dungeon - which is dead now and won't be there to fight Xykon when he finally goes to that dungeon.

Sorry if I thought that was a rather obvious conclusion.

[SavageWombat]

Comment page before 623, left colum, last sentence of 3rd paragraph.

Guess:
Vaarsuvius' killed a/the guardian black dragon bear one of the gates, probably in Serini's Dungeon.

Someone is going to have a very, very nasty surprise, I think.

Aren't we hypothesizing that Girard is part dragon?

[Zanaril]

Read the sentence?
Ah, I see. It was just a bit confusing how you'd worded it.


Aren't we hypothesizing that Girard is part dragon?

But what are the chances that if he is half dragon, he's also

a) Half black dragon
and
b) Was related to one of the quater that were killed?

[Optimystik]

:vaarsuvius: Support for my theory continues to accrue at an alarming rate

I would like to remind everyone that Belkar's lust for V does not make V's theory right. (i.e. it doesn't mean Belkar has a "proto-brain" with only two modes.)

But in all honesty, I didn't expect a SureWhyNot of this magnitude. :smallconfused:

[Zanaril]

But in all honesty, I didn't expect a SureWhyNot of this magnitude. :smallconfused:
I'm surprised that V is the only one (as opposed to lots of characters or no characters). It suggest that it is significant.

I think a point should be awarded towards Belkar's intelligence that he hasn't tried hitting on V. :smalltongue:

[Ancalagon]

Ah, I see. It was just a bit confusing how you'd worded it.

No, it wasn't my wording. It was totally incomplete and included "reading and thinking yourself".

[Zanaril]

No, it wasn't my wording. It was totally incomplete and included "reading and thinking yourself".


Vaarsuvius' killed a/the guardian black dragon bear one of the gates, probably in Serini's Dungeon.

... black dragon bear? :smalltongue:

I don't have the book so I couldn't look up the comment you were refering to.

[Optimystik]

I think he meant "near."

[NerfTW]

It doesn't have to mean the dragon is dead even. The spell only killed relatives. It was discussed a lot when the spell happened that this still leaves friends and non blood related family members alive to seek retribution. That theory is now a little more plausible.

[CapedLuigiYoshi]

A couple other things I just realized:

- Windstriker is listed as "Alive, but not in this book".
- The Demon Roaches and the MitD are connected by an "Animal Sidekick" line.

[Hann]

Roy and Celia are also connected by shtupping.

For posterity's sake, here is a list of all the different connection lines

Related
Works with/for
Killed
Tried to Kill
Dating/Shtupping
Wants to shtup
Names Confusingly Similar
Wants to Control
Captured/Imprisoned
Created
Worships
Animal Sidekick
Has Seen Movies By
Evil Opposites

Also, it seems that the orange member of the IFCC is Cedrik the demon, based on the commentary following 642.

[HotAndCold]

But what are the chances that if he is half dragon, he's also

a) Half black dragon
and
b) Was related to one of the quater that were killed?

Yeah, that's like a one in a million chance!

...Oh.

[Porthos]

Yeah, that's like a one in a million chance!

...Oh.

One in a million chances don't always work (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0454.html), you know. :smallwink:

[ChrisFortyTwo]

I like that in comic 528 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0528.html), the line "...I wish I could look back through this comic's archive" were changed to

"...I wish I had copies of the previous three books."

Nice continuity.

Although I would have thought that Belkar's anecdote in 645 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0645.html) would be changed, too, but it is not.

[JosephHeller]

I like that in comic 528 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0528.html), the line "...I wish I could look back through this comic's archive" were changed to

"...I wish I had copies of the previous three books."

Nice continuity.

Although I would have thought that Belkar's anecdote in 645 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0645.html) would be changed, too, but it is not.
Technically, it's still correct, as the 'next book' in this case isn't Don't Split The Party, but #5... however unlikely having the scene in it may be.

[Porthos]

Technically, it's still correct, as the 'next book' in this case isn't Don't Split The Party, but #5... however unlikely having the scene in it may be.

The point ChristFortyTwo is making is that the scene that Belkar is referencing was just in the last few preceeding pages of the book. In other words, while other speeches were changed, this one wasn't. It could have changed to something like, "Boy I sure am glad we found the time to show this scene in this book", or something similar.

Not a really huge or earthshattering error. Just something worthy of minor notice. :smallsmile:

[Allan Surgite]

By the way?

Shtup is among my new favourite words. And is apparently fictional, according to Google Chrome.

[veti]

By the way?

Shtup is among my new favourite words. And is apparently fictional, according to Google Chrome.

That's because it's mis-spelled (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schtup).

[Porthos]

And is apparently fictional, according to Google Chrome.

Not fictional, I'm afraid (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/shtup). Just Yiddish slang*. :smallwink:

* Or at the very least, a word that originally came from Yiddish and is now used in slangy terms.


That's because it's mis-spelled (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schtup).

I believe you meant to say, "variant spelling (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shtup)". :smallwink:

FWIW, my Google Search Bar knows the meaning of the word "Shtup". :smallsmile: As well as Shtupp and Shtupping and...

Well, you get the idea. :smallwink:

[Katana_Geldar]

I'm picking up my copy tomorrow! Honestly, if I hadn't told the guy it was in he would not have ordered it.

[LuisDantas]

No line from Belkar to that female bard of the Thieves' Guild?

[Asta Kask]

Love 'em and leave 'em.

[Zanaril]

Love 'em and leave 'em.

He's got V to peruse now.