sword move in #600

[Acero]

Roy's grandfather taught him a new sword move in strip 600 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0600.html). any clue what it is?

the only thing i can think of is some move that lowers concentration.

what are your thought?

[Mystic Muse]

something that kills the mage? I don't actually know. However when you get a greatsword through your stomach you're probably going to bleed to death pretty quickly.

[Kumo]

Roy's father taught him a new sword move in strip 600 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0600.html). any clue what it is?

the only thing i can think of is some move that lowers concentration.

what are your thought?

Maybe a fighter-style silencing? Like "can't cast spells for this round"

[derfenrirwolv]

It sounds like the mageslayer feats. They let you ignore concentration's ability to let casters avoid the attack of opportunity when they cast and whack them anyway. Its mechanically useless without a reach weapon (or hany enlarge person) and pretty broken with them

[Conuly]

However when you get a greatsword through your stomach you're probably going to bleed to death pretty quickly.

I don't think that's exactly Xykon's problem here.

[Mystic Muse]

I don't think that's exactly Xykon's problem here.

No but it might end up being somebody else's

[Ozymandias9]

Someone looked had a very viable suggestion when it first came up. I can't remember what it is, but I'll look up the thread if I have time tomorrow: if someone gets the time first go for it. And it was Roy's grandfather, not his father.

[Iago]

The manuever(s) that Roy's grandfather was showing him seem most likely to be one of these feats (these are Pathfinder, not 3.5 as such, but whatever):

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/feats.html#disruptive
(+4 to DC of defensive casting if you threaten them.)

or

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/feats.html#spellbreaker
(Attack of opportunity if they fail a concentration check to cast defensively)

[Allan Surgite]

Roy's father taught him a new sword move in strip 600 (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0600.html). any clue what it is?

the only thing i can think of is some move that lowers concentration.

what are your thought?
If you hadn't have given a link, I'd be tied up asking you about when Roy's father taught him any sword tricks.

Also; I thought of the thoughts Iago mentioned when I saw the panel originally.

[Bibliomancer]

The manuever(s) that Roy's grandfather was showing him seem most likely to be one of these feats (these are Pathfinder, not 3.5 as such, but whatever):

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/feats.html#disruptive
(+4 to DC of defensive casting if you threaten them.)

or

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/feats.html#spellbreaker
(Attack of opportunity if they fail a concentration check to cast defensively)

Both of these are almost certainly not the feat taught to Roy. First, they're almost useless. The DC to cast defensively is low enough that a spellcaster with average Con and max ranks in Concentration can make it almost all of the time at high levels (which is why Xykon is so surprised here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0652.html) when Vaarsuvius fails the check, aND this is probably because of V's impaired state, low Con, AND the high level of the spell she was attempting to cast relative to her ranks in the skill) WITHOUT using magic items that boost the skill. A +4 bonus is trivial, as is getting to attack them them when they have already failed the check.

Roy's feat seems to be one that lets him attack a spellcaster while they are casting defensively, probably the Mageslayer feat from Complete Arcane or Complete Mage which was mentioned previously.

[Spiryt]

However when you get a greatsword through your stomach you're probably going to bleed to death pretty quickly.

With sword in your stomach, bleeding would be often the smallest of your problems.

And in D&D, there are no rules even for bleeding anyway (unless you are not below 0, of course), so there's nothing to apply here too.

[Prime32]

And in D&D, there are no rules even for bleeding anyway (unless you are not below 0, of course), so there's nothing to apply here too.There are such rules, but they only apply in specific cases.

[Spiryt]

There are such rules, but they only apply in specific cases.

AFAIR there are some bleeding effects when some specific monter hits you, and Wounding weapons. Which can't be really called "blood loss rules" to me.

I always just use bloodloss as description etc. of HP loss, of course, but that's whole another story.

[Acero]

i can only think of it as something along these lines.

You attack with an extra amount of flair and gusto, distracting the caster and lowering their concentration skill by 1d8 +Dex Mod

[Blas_de_Lezo]

It's the Mageslayer feat, from Complete Warrior.

[Turk]

Third Panel says Custom.

It's a pretty safe bet to assume it's a homebrew ability.

[the_tick_rules]

I remember a feat, i think in phb2, that when you hit a caster he takes penalties to his next concentration check, I know there was one in epic but i think there was another one similar elsewhere. Something like that sounds reasonable I think mage slayer is in epic, at least in 3.5

[averagejoe]

something that kills the mage? I don't actually know. However when you get a greatsword through your stomach you're probably going to bleed to death pretty quickly.

You'd think so... (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0408.html)

[FujinAkari]

It's the Mageslayer feat, from Complete Warrior.

No it isn't.

1) The ability is explicitly called custom
2) The training for it involves some sort of tactical strike, whereas Mageslayer is reactionary training (to detect when the mage is casting despite his efforts to keep up his guard)
3) When we actually SEE the ability get used by Horace, the mage wasn't casting.

Please, don't claim you know what something is when you're only guessing, particularly when the guess is as flaw-riddled as this one is :P

[Ash_Gazn]

Haley's dad was a 1st edition Thief.
The entire OotStick was upgraded from 3.0 to 3.5.

There's no reason to assume Horace Greenhilt follows 3.5 Edition rules.

[Forbiddenwar]

Ah, but he is a fighter (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0498.html) who has a feat.
And Xykon, who is over a hundred, is a sorceror.
All three of which are 3rd edition.

I think Giant has given up on past=previous editions, A lot has changed since comics 1 and 8.

[AlfredAmeoba]

I got the impression he was throwing the weapon. I think its just giving range increment to his greatsword. Spell disruption would happen on its own accord.