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randman22222
2010-01-06, 06:06 AM
Who is Earl (http://www.translationparty.com/#5999425), and what does he have to do with anything?

It happens sometimes. My little brother discovered this one (http://www.translationparty.com/#6000139). Take a look. Please refer to the link. Please, please refer to the link. Please, please, please refer to the link. Please, please, please, please refer to the link. :smallbiggrin:

Also, the first sentence of the Gettysburg Address used to start talking about Continental Airlines and Korean men... :smallconfused:

Kobold-Bard
2010-01-06, 06:08 AM
I never have lucid dreams. This saddens me.

I recommend Spar's own brand American Cola. This became 2x 2L bottles for £1 a while ago, got through a bottle and a half in one evening and had the funkiest dreams ever. Everything was magnified and much brighter than it should be, and I kinda had control of stuff, bit it was kinda like being drunk.

Bought about £10 worth before the took the offer away. I nearly collapsed from sugar crash afterwards (the stuff is like 1/2 sugar or something silly like that).


It's horrible when you realize it's a dream but you still can't control it, though.

This sucks royally :smallannoyed:

Anuan
2010-01-06, 06:29 AM
It's horrible when you realize it's a dream but you still can't control it, though.

You speak the truth. Especially when it's a bad dream D: Usually it fills me with terror to the point I wake up though.

Coidzor
2010-01-06, 06:37 AM
Hmm... I don't think I've had any lucid dreams. The closest I've had were dreams where I thought I was lucid dreaming but really wasn't.

...Which is always more than a tad weird.

randman22222
2010-01-06, 06:49 AM
When I realise that a nightmare is a dream, but it doesn't become lucid, I just let whatever monster/evil kingpin boss it is that's after me kill me and get it over with. >.>

I remember one dream where I was at a funeral with my German relatives, and I didn't know whose funeral it was. Then some mafia guy came in, and shot me in the face. It didn't hurt much. Just felt warm. Then the mourning began, because I was "dead".

rakkoon
2010-01-06, 06:51 AM
I had a recurring dream in my youth about a vampire. After a year or so I was fed up and threw him down the stairs. The dream never came back.
I'm sure there's a psych thesis in here somewhere :smallsmile:

Coidzor
2010-01-06, 06:55 AM
So, do you guys get more third person or first person views of your dreams?

Mine seem to be almost universally third-person, which is pretty much how I can identify if I'm getting dream deja vu or actual life experience deja vu when something comes up.

Kobold-Bard
2010-01-06, 06:57 AM
So, do you guys get more third person or first person views of your dreams?

Mine seem to be almost universally third-person, which is pretty much how I can identify if I'm getting dream deja vu or actual life experience deja vu when something comes up.

First person I think. Sometimes it's kind of like having both at once.

Recaiden
2010-01-06, 06:59 AM
I had a 3rd person dream today, but it's unusually 1st person.
I realized pretty early it was a dream, but I had to go through all the normal dream stuff. :smallannoyed:

Coidzor
2010-01-06, 07:02 AM
^: See, the normal dream stuff never bothers me that much. Just the bad dream stuff. What was so annoying about it?
First person I think. Sometimes it's kind of like having both at once.

Yeah... sometimes it bleeds through. I'm not really sure what to call that other than labeling everything that's either blurry or changes "Mixed Perspective" and leaving it at that.

It is slightly headache inducing when it's in 1st and 3rd at the same time.

...Or when it's in first person but one's perspective and self is in a different body/view divorced from whatever is representing one's self as a sort of placeholder body deal.

randman22222
2010-01-06, 07:13 AM
Mine are in first person. What's interesting, though, is that when I get into a vehicle, my point of view jumps to the front of that vehicle. So in a plane, I become the plane, and see from the nose. It doesn't happen as often with cars, though...

Another translation party (http://www.translationparty.com/#6000558).

Anuan
2010-01-06, 07:34 AM
So, you...dream you're the camera for a videogame?

Kobold-Bard
2010-01-06, 07:50 AM
Because I've let 4Chan suck me in again. (http://www.translationparty.com/#6000697)

KuReshtin
2010-01-06, 08:49 AM
Because I've let 4Chan suck me in again. (http://www.translationparty.com/#6000697)

k, it actually ways to start with an English phrase. That's just gibberish to start with, and almost makes more sense at the end. Almost... :smallsmile:

randman22222
2010-01-06, 09:14 AM
k, it actually ways to start with an English phrase. That's just gibberish to start with, and almost makes more sense at the end. Almost... :smallsmile:

Are you kidding? It makes a lot more sense.
Furthermore, anyone who has been so far as to want fall more than idling canopies, has to use same lots to find what anyone uses.

Castaras
2010-01-06, 09:40 AM
Shakespearean lines into that translation party thing is quite amusing at times.

Trobby
2010-01-06, 10:04 AM
First, I can't remember my dream at all. @_@; So much for early sleep.

But when I DO remember a dream, I usually have one in third-person, with an occasional switch to first-person when appropriate. For instance, towards the end of one dream I was traveling from my house to my aunt's house in a blizzard (which is doubly strange, since I barely made it there, and my aunt lives right next door) being chased by a werewolf. That was in third person. When I got there, and I was talking to my OTHER aunt (who told me how to escape the dream, in a strange case of lucidity), I was looking at her in first-person.

I also occasionally have a dream where I'm not even there at first. Heck, I've even had a dream where I had a cutaway to another scene, giving me context for something that would happen later. (The Samurai Zombie Apocalypse dream is one of my more memorable dreams)


Also, we appear to have a slight problem (http://www.translationparty.com/#6001576) when dealing with palindromes.

Edit: In addition, infinite loop (http://www.translationparty.com/#6001588)

Supagoof
2010-01-06, 10:32 AM
A long time ago I told Curly I was going to run a Disney WW game. She told me to let her know when that was happening. I figure since there are other fans out there, I'll just post here to let everyone know.

Kingdom Hearts WW (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7627440#post7627440)

A little more on topic - one of the more horrifying dreams I've had was riding a bike where the tires were actually sawblades. Everywhere I rode I left a wake of destruction behind me. I don't know where I was going, or where I was coming from, but I was running from something. Though I'm not sure what it was. The scenery I was biking through was also polynomal in nature - very sharp lines and simple colors - nothing with blends. Kinda cartoonish in nature.

I've had this dream more then once. :smallconfused:

KuReshtin
2010-01-06, 10:43 AM
Edit: In addition, infinite loop (http://www.translationparty.com/#6001588)

And with only a small change (http://www.translationparty.com/#6001771), it produces a whole bunch of actual coherent results.

Gullara
2010-01-06, 10:44 AM
I actually don't remember any dreams I've ever had, and most of the time I don't realize I've had a dream (though I'm assuming I have dreams most nights) I always feel out of the loop when people talk about dreams.

Cristo Meyers
2010-01-06, 10:51 AM
I actually don't remember any dreams I've ever had, and most of the time I don't realize I've had a dream (though I'm assuming I have dreams most nights) I always feel out of the loop when people talk about dreams.

Most people do in fact dream every night, they just don't remember upon waking.

My nights have been remarkably dreamless recently. This is probably for the better since my dreams have always been somewhat...odd.

Phaedra
2010-01-06, 11:08 AM
I dream about drowning a lot. Also, train stations. I don't know what this says about my psyche.

ION: I have had an awful day. I set off for a meeting several hours away, braving the UK train system only to be contacted by the person I was supposed to meet an hour before said meeting to be told they couldn't make it in due to snow. Why I can make it there from a different city but they can't make it from a few miles away is beyond me. So, I have come home, having wasted £45 and over 6 hours of my life on accomplishing nothing. I am cold and angry. I need a hug or some hard liquor. Maybe both.

Dragonrider
2010-01-06, 11:18 AM
Tiiiiiiime looop :smallbiggrin:


Overall, strangely, it was a nice dream. Got to see Sam again, and to stroke him.

I've lived in thirteen houses in seven towns in my eighteen years of life, and around the ages of 9-12 or so I used to have these gutwrenchingly sad dreams about the places I used to live. I would have some where we moved back to an old how and I went running down the hall to where my bedroom used to be, only to find that instead there was a staircase that went up and up forever. In one of these, my then-youngest brother (who's now in the middle) raced up the staircase only to fall with a sickening splat on the floor.

More often I would have a dream where I flew to visit my best friend and showed up in her back yard. We'd both start crying and I'd say, "We have to hurry and have the most fun imaginable because this is a dream and when I wake up, I can't see you anymore." :smallfrown: Your dog reminded me of that . . . it's so sad but you get to see them for a little.


So, do you guys get more third person or first person views of your dreams?

I'm usually first person, but often it's a first person who I know isn't me. Like . . . recently I had one where I was 10-year-old boy pickpocket on the run from the cops. Once I was a little boy made out of chocolate. I seem to be very young boys a lot in my dreams, actually, as well as girls.

Last night I dreamt I was this waif girl rescued by some guy and hiding in the aisles of the bookstore because some unnamed BIG EVIL was coming for us. The author Scott Westerfeld appeared and said to me, "You have to put on lipstick. They're scared of red lips." So I put on the red lipstick, which I remember thinking did not go with my purple eyes (apparently my eyes were purple?) and then we were off running through the bookshelves again, trying to escape while Scott Westerfeld fended them off.

Groundhog
2010-01-06, 11:24 AM
From Monty Python and the Holy Sake Cup (http://www.translationparty.com/#6002018)

Thufir
2010-01-06, 11:25 AM
OK, let's see what this translation party makes of Firefly:

WTPF? (http://www.translationparty.com/#6001977)

randman22222
2010-01-06, 11:30 AM
Tiiiiiiime looop :smallbiggrin:

I've lived in thirteen houses in seven towns in my eighteen years of life, and around the ages of 9-12 or so I used to have these gutwrenchingly sad dreams about the places I used to live. I would have some where we moved back to an old how and I went running down the hall to where my bedroom used to be, only to find that instead there was a staircase that went up and up forever. In one of these, my then-youngest brother (who's now in the middle) raced up the staircase only to fall with a sickening splat on the floor.

More often I would have a dream where I flew to visit my best friend and showed up in her back yard. We'd both start crying and I'd say, "We have to hurry and have the most fun imaginable because this is a dream and when I wake up, I can't see you anymore." :smallfrown: Your dog reminded me of that . . . it's so sad but you get to see them for a little.

I'm usually first person, but often it's a first person who I know isn't me. Like . . . recently I had one where I was 10-year-old boy pickpocket on the run from the cops. Once I was a little boy made out of chocolate. I seem to be very young boys a lot in my dreams, actually, as well as girls.

Last night I dreamt I was this waif girl rescued by some guy and hiding in the aisles of the bookstore because some unnamed BIG EVIL was coming for us. The author Scott Westerfeld appeared and said to me, "You have to put on lipstick. They're scared of red lips." So I put on the red lipstick, which I remember thinking did not go with my purple eyes (apparently my eyes were purple?) and then we were off running through the bookshelves again, trying to escape while Scott Westerfeld fended them off.

I was going to say that your dreams are so easily analysable compared to mine, then I read the second two paragraphs. :smallconfused:

Am I the only one that is astounded at how one's subconscious can create entire cities, and keep them consistent from one dream to another? Sometimes I'll even have consistent constellation-sized pockets of solar systems, with planets and everything. :smalleek:


OK, let's see what this translation party makes of Firefly:

WTPF? (http://www.translationparty.com/#6001977)

That... is incredible. :smalleek::smallbiggrin:

@V: That... is also incredible. TP is just incredible. :smallbiggrin:

Thufir
2010-01-06, 11:33 AM
Tiiiiiiime looop :smallbiggrin:

As predicted by Barrichello. (http://www.translationparty.com/#6002073)

cycoris
2010-01-06, 11:36 AM
As predicted by Barrichello. (http://www.translationparty.com/#6002073)

Oh my. (http://www.translationparty.com/#6002141)



Last night I dreamt I was this waif girl rescued by some guy and hiding in the aisles of the bookstore because some unnamed BIG EVIL was coming for us. The author Scott Westerfeld appeared and said to me, "You have to put on lipstick. They're scared of red lips." So I put on the red lipstick, which I remember thinking did not go with my purple eyes (apparently my eyes were purple?) and then we were off running through the bookshelves again, trying to escape while Scott Westerfeld fended them off.

...You had a dream about Scott Westerfeld last night?

I did too. I swear. I went to a Leviathan signing, except we somehow ended up in the Peeps, So Yesterday, and The Last Days world and I had to fight of those dark worm things with a whole bunch of wobbly-headed dolls.

My brain is weeeeeeeird.

Also, good morning!

January is the time for my annual Great Big Sea kick. <3.

Why always January? I don't know. But it usually goes:

Great Big Sea
Barenaked Ladies
Common Market
Cat Stevens
Nothin' to See
Indigo Girls
Howard Shore
John Williams
Klaus Badelt
Artisan
They Might Be Giants
Trans-Siberian Orchestra
(Not necessarily an accurate representation of my overall musical taste.)

With each of these phases lasting about a month. And quite likely in that order.

I'm so predictable. I do it with books and movies too. And it's not even intentional. It just happens! :smalleek::smallconfused:

KuReshtin
2010-01-06, 11:46 AM
If you are the only way you can find a joint venture with some limitations in the past. (http://www.translationparty.com/#6002192) Apparently.

Edit: I'm having way too much fun with that site for my own good. I really should be working. But then again, all my managers and team leaders have already left for the day, so who's going to yell at me?

Dragonrider
2010-01-06, 11:50 AM
And I'm certain you were not burdened with an overabundance of schooling (http://www.translationparty.com/#6002225) (because I wasn't.)

Jibar
2010-01-06, 11:53 AM
Well I guess it's a fact. (http://www.translationparty.com/#6002249)

KuReshtin
2010-01-06, 12:03 PM
Trying to find equilibrium with eponymous laws makes no sense (http://www.translationparty.com/#6002308).

Maybe I'm overestimating the effect of underestimating the effect in the long-term and short-term.

Player_Zero
2010-01-06, 12:07 PM
Zero is cold. Hold me.

Thufir
2010-01-06, 12:08 PM
Babylon 5:

The Minbari don't like being updated. (http://www.translationparty.com/#6002279)

And the Nine said, "Valen, have you been drinking?" (http://www.translationparty.com/#6002316)

Maybe this is why some people don't take the Rangers seriously. (http://www.translationparty.com/#6002365)

Dragonrider
2010-01-06, 12:11 PM
Zero is cold. Hold me.

I'm going to toss you a heat pack instead, because you smell funny. Like maths. :smallbiggrin:

Phaedra
2010-01-06, 12:13 PM
Zero is cold. Hold me.

Well, I did want a hug anyway... Do you also have alcohol? If you can provide me with alcohol, a hug can be yours.

Thufir
2010-01-06, 12:18 PM
Zero is cold. Hold me.

*Hugs*
To solve this problem in the long term, I recommend multiple layers of clothing and blankets.

Player_Zero
2010-01-06, 12:19 PM
Well, I did want a hug anyway... Do you also have alcohol? If you can provide me with alcohol, a hug can be yours.

Alcohol makes you colder, you just feel warmer. More likely to catch a cold that way.

Kobold-Bard
2010-01-06, 12:22 PM
Zero is cold. Hold me.

I would, but Kobolds are cold blooded, so I'd probably make it worse.

Just had a nap: the only bit of my dream that I can remember is the ending. I was in my uni library watchig a man dressed in an orange and blue kimono walking with the help of two walking sticks. He was thanking a small man in a suit for not throwing a book at him and I felt my need to throw a book at him lessen.

Who is this man? Why do people in my dreams have the urge to throw books at him? Who knows...

Phaedra
2010-01-06, 12:23 PM
Alcohol makes you colder, you just feel warmer. More likely to catch a cold that way.

Oh, I know this. I don't want a drink because I'm cold - I'm wearing an absurd amount of layers to deal with that. I want a drink because my day's been ****.

You should go put on more layers. The answer to all cold problems is always more clothes.

KuReshtin
2010-01-06, 12:26 PM
I would, but Kobolds are cold blooded, so I'd probably make it worse.

Just had a nap: the only bit of my dream that I can remember is the ending. I was in my uni library watchig a man dressed in an orange and blue kimono walking with the help of two walking sticks. He was thanking a small man in a suit for not throwing a book at him and I felt my need to throw a book at him lessen.

Who is this man? Why do people in my dreams have the urge to throw books at him? Who knows...

Are you sure it wasn't a giant orange and blue Cuckoo bird (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhHP3hP_0Pg)?

randman22222
2010-01-06, 12:26 PM
I would, but Kobolds are cold blooded, so I'd probably make it worse.

Just had a nap: the only bit of my dream that I can remember is the ending. I was in my uni library watchig a man dressed in an orange and blue kimono walking with the help of two walking sticks. He was thanking a small man in a suit for not throwing a book at him and I felt my need to throw a book at him lessen.

Who is this man? Why do people in my dreams have the urge to throw books at him? Who knows...

*Sits Kobold-Bard down on a leather chair, and encourages him to lie down.*

Has anyone you know influenced you recently? What do you think the walking sticks represent? And what do the books represent, do you think?

:smalltongue:

Coplantor
2010-01-06, 12:30 PM
So, do you guys get more third person or first person views of your dreams?

Mine seem to be almost universally third-person, which is pretty much how I can identify if I'm getting dream deja vu or actual life experience deja vu when something comes up.

Seemsl ike a combination of both, actually my dreams are like movies, the FP parts are ussually when the setting of the dreamisrevealed and in some of the most intense parts, the res of the narrative develops in TP

Kobold-Bard
2010-01-06, 12:40 PM
Are you sure it wasn't a giant orange and blue Cuckoo bird (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhHP3hP_0Pg)?

Could be. He was a bit quieter than the bird though.


*Sits Kobold-Bard down on a leather chair, and encourages him to lie down.*

Has anyone you know influenced you recently? What do you think the walking sticks represent? And what do the books represent, do you think?

:smalltongue:

I think the sticks are my father, the man is my mother, the kimono is my auntie and the books are the hedgehog that lives in deep within my soul, just waiting for the right moment to burst forth and bring about the apocalypse.

Do I get one of those neat white coats with the buckles now? :smallsmile:

Player_Zero
2010-01-06, 12:41 PM
Oh, I know this. I don't want a drink because I'm cold - I'm wearing an absurd amount of layers to deal with that. I want a drink because my day's been ****.

You should go put on more layers. The answer to all cold problems is always more clothes.

The answer to a cold heart is not more clothes.

And drinking your problems away never works.

CurlyKitGirl
2010-01-06, 01:39 PM
Books give hope. (http://www.translationparty.com/#6003027)

Hehe, I predicted a nation wide snow day. There was a (mostly) nation wide snow day. Oddly, my old primary stayed open, as did my old college.
'Course, because of all the snow, the cold and the extreme silence of the roads Mum told Elder Younger Brother to just skip school.
A lot of the slush-snow left over is now freezing.

Guess who's been sent out no less than five times today to get trivial items and important items?
Me.
I'm just glad I found my gloves. Really, you'd think someone with no less than three pairs of gloves would be able to find them easily, but I can't.

EDIT:
Why does going downstairs produce twelve stairs, but going up the same set of stairs produce eleven?

Cristo Meyers
2010-01-06, 01:49 PM
EDIT:
Why does going downstairs produce twelve stairs, but going up the same set of stairs produce eleven?

heh...ever read House of Leaves? (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HouseOfLeaves)

Mind the dark spaces...

randman22222
2010-01-06, 01:55 PM
heh...ever read House of Leaves? (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HouseOfLeaves)

Mind the dark spaces...

...Now I wanna read it. It sounds like how my mind operates. From time to time. If such a view is applicable.

CurlyKitGirl
2010-01-06, 01:55 PM
heh...ever read House of Leaves? (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HouseOfLeaves)

Mind the dark spaces...

Snap! Knew I wanted to order another something off Amazon.
Dad's already using my account to sneakily order Mum's Christmas presents. Six days into 2010 and he owes me £22.

Have you read it?

Cristo Meyers
2010-01-06, 02:00 PM
Snap! Knew I wanted to order another something off Amazon.
Dad's already using my account to sneakily order Mum's Christmas presents. Six days into 2010 and he owes me £22.

Have you read it?

Reading it right now, Christmas gift from my sister-in-law. Would be further, but I was reading Neverwhere over Christmas and I just can't lay that one down.

It's strange, really. A lot of it is written like an academic paper. There are footnotes everywhere, most of which tell a whole other story. Some parts are sublimely creepy.

I'm probably only 100 pages or so in, but I'm loving every minute of it.

CurlyKitGirl
2010-01-06, 02:17 PM
Reading it right now, Christmas gift from my sister-in-law. Would be further, but I was reading Neverwhere over Christmas and I just can't lay that one down.

It's strange, really. A lot of it is written like an academic paper. There are footnotes everywhere, most of which tell a whole other story. Some parts are sublimely creepy.

I'm probably only 100 pages or so in, but I'm loving every minute of it.

:smallbiggrin:
Neverwhere is flippin' fantastic isn't it?!
Hmmm, just from that minor description it sounds really tempting. Would you absolutely recommend it to me?
And subliely creepy after just a hundred pages, sounds like my type of thing.

Trobby
2010-01-06, 02:19 PM
A long time ago I told Curly I was going to run a Disney WW game. She told me to let her know when that was happening. I figure since there are other fans out there, I'll just post here to let everyone know.

Kingdom Hearts WW (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7627440#post7627440)


WW? World War? *blink blink* What exactly is it?

Cristo Meyers
2010-01-06, 02:22 PM
WW: WereWolf, as in Mafia-style games. They happen down in Structured on a regular basis.


:smallbiggrin:
Neverwhere is flippin' fantastic isn't it?!

Easily my favorite book thus far. Gaiman is my idol.



Hmmm, just from that minor description it sounds really tempting. Would you absolutely recommend it to me?
And subliely creepy after just a hundred pages, sounds like my type of thing.

I would. It's...different, but it a good way. Very postmodern, I guess. It's going off all in different directions all at once, sometimes. Really that TVTropes page probably summarizes it best.

randman22222
2010-01-06, 02:32 PM
*Adds House of Leaves to the reading queue.*

There. Just need to finish my music psychology book.

Oh, and thanks for the help, CKG.

Phaedra
2010-01-06, 02:32 PM
The answer to a cold heart is not more clothes.

And drinking your problems away never works.

If you have a better way to deal with problems, do feel free to share it, bearing in mind I've already drowned my sorrow in chocolate cake.

Player_Zero
2010-01-06, 02:45 PM
If you have a better way to deal with problems, do feel free to share it, bearing in mind I've already drowned my sorrow in chocolate cake.

You could try walking straight with your head held high, the wind against you.

Alternatively, instead of shining brighter than any other, you could reflect everything that touches you to save yourself from being dulled.

So, how do you like my blanket and intentionally vague metaphors?

And you can't drown in chocolate cake. You'd suffocate if anything. Choke maybe.

CurlyKitGirl
2010-01-06, 03:00 PM
Easily my favorite book thus far. Gaiman is my idol.

(And so the RB time loop begins again . . . )
Which other books by him have you read? I still need to read (and possibly buy) American Gods.
Neverwhere, Anansi Boys, The Graveyard Book, Good Omens and several of his short stories are what I've read of his work. And I've seen and read Coraline.
He's one of my favourite writers. Out of them, Anansi Boys is the one I find the 'worst'.
So yeah, incredibly high quality books.
I'm rambling again, but I say that after Neverwhere etc. try reading The Graveyard Book. It's charming - dark, vicious and full of murders - but charming nonetheless. It's also quite short, I read it in a couple of hours; and is illustrated.

I actually want to read and or buy The Sandman graphic novel series too, but I can't find more than the odd one spotted around.


I would. It's...different, but it a good way. Very postmodern, I guess. It's going off all in different directions all at once, sometimes. Really that TVTropes page probably summarizes it best.

TVTropes has intrigued me. To the buying mobile! Tomorrow.


*Adds House of Leaves to the reading queue.*

There. Just need to finish my music psychology book.

Oh, and thanks for the help, CKG.

No probs; I like helping out friends. Glad it helped, even a little bit.

Well, just found something out.
Turns out my cousin died tonight. She was fourteen and died of leukaemia, been in and out of hospital her whole life.
I've never met her.
Truthfully, I didn't even know her. At all.
She's also either my cousin twice removed, my second cousin once removed or my third cousin.
I feel nothing, but I feel a wee but guilty for feeling nothing.
I'm slightly -
I don't know. I've never known someone even slightly related to me, and younger than me, who's died before.
I feel bad for not feeling sad.

Cristo Meyers
2010-01-06, 03:07 PM
(And so the RB time loop begins again . . . )

*jumps to the left*

...oh...loop...not warp...

...sorry.


Which other books by him have you read? I still need to read (and possibly buy) American Gods.
Neverwhere, Anansi Boys, The Graveyard Book, Good Omens and several of his short stories are what I've read of his work. And I've seen and read Coraline.
He's one of my favourite writers. Out of them, Anansi Boys is the one I find the 'worst'.
So yeah, incredibly high quality books.
I'm rambling again, but I say that after Neverwhere etc. try reading The Graveyard Book. It's charming - dark, vicious and full of murders - but charming nonetheless. It's also quite short, I read it in a couple of hours; and is illustrated.

Dark, vicious, and full of murders you say? :smallamused:

I shall look into it.

I've read Neverwhere, American Gods, and Good Omens thus far. All excellent.


I actually want to read and or buy The Sandman graphic novel series too, but I can't find more than the odd one spotted around.

Graphic novels can be tricky to find in the best of days, depending on where you shop. I honestly think that the first time I saw a Watchmen collection was just after the movie came out. I'm not sure I've ever seen The Sandman.



Well, just found something out.
Turns out my cousin died tonight. She was fourteen and died of leukaemia, been in and out of hospital her whole life.
I've never met her.
Truthfully, I didn't even know her. At all.
She's also either my cousin twice removed, my second cousin once removed or my third cousin.
I feel nothing, but I feel a wee but guilty for feeling nothing.
I'm slightly -
I don't know. I've never known someone even slightly related to me, and younger than me, who's died before.
I feel bad for not feeling sad.

First: my condolences.

It's weird when a relative dies and you realize that you never really knew them at all. In this case, it's literal, and I don't think anyone can hold it against you for not feeling much of anything.

Trobby
2010-01-06, 03:31 PM
WW: WereWolf, as in Mafia-style games. They happen down in Structured on a regular basis.


..Werewolf? Mafia-Style? o.o;

I think you might need to elaborate a bit more.

Cristo Meyers
2010-01-06, 03:57 PM
..Werewolf? Mafia-Style? o.o;

I think you might need to elaborate a bit more.

*elaborated!* (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112401)

Player_Zero
2010-01-06, 04:00 PM
I can't get this damn song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY8jaGs7xJ0) out of my head. I keep playing it over and over and over...

And incidentally, I never understood how Werewolf games were supposed to work online. It seems like people would just vote randomly because you can't work off of tells and conversation with other players.

CurlyKitGirl
2010-01-06, 04:00 PM
*jumps to the left*

...oh...loop...not warp...

...sorry.

Then a step to the rye-eye-eye-iiight.



Dark, vicious, and full of murders you say? :smallamused:

I shall look into it.

I've read Neverwhere, American Gods, and Good Omens thus far. All excellent.

Oh, and the protagonist is an eleven-(I think, it's been a while since I read it)-year-old boy. Amazon, you can buy it for about two pounds second hand.


*Graphic novels can be tricky to find in the best of days, depending on where you shop. I honestly think that the first time I saw a Watchmen collection was just after the movie came out. I'm not sure I've ever seen The Sandman.

Eh, I can just order them (free of charge) from my favourite bookshop. I've actually seen a few issues of it in the shop itself, and I can say righ out, that the art is wonderful, very off-kilter, and absolutely perfect for the story.
It's worth special ordering, but each individual volume is around £12-15 new. I forget the exact price.


*First: my condolences.

It's weird when a relative dies and you realize that you never really knew them at all. In this case, it's literal, and I don't think anyone can hold it against you for not feeling much of anything.

Thanks.


..Werewolf? Mafia-Style? o.o;

I think you might need to elaborate a bit more.

Wikipedia says . . . (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_(party_game))
The Playground says . . . (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112401)

Kobold-Bard
2010-01-06, 04:05 PM
I can't get this damn song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY8jaGs7xJ0) out of my head. I keep playing it over and over and over...

If I wasn't having even more disturbing Youtube music problems I'd probably be in the same boat as you now.

Fortunately listening to Disney songs in various languages I don't understand is currently taking a large portion of the brain space that is reserved for Youtube related matters.

Dragonrider
2010-01-06, 04:29 PM
Guess who's been sent out no less fewer than five times today to get trivial items and important items?

*blink* *blink*

Oh. Em. Gee. Koorli, shame! :smalltongue:

Admittedly, it is a common expression. Still. Less v. fewer is my most major peeve in the whole wide world.

Well . . . next to "alot". And faze v. phase. I am a pedant.

Coidzor
2010-01-06, 04:34 PM
^: That's good. Though I must admit, I'm surprised that such things can still be at the top place considering you've already gone through a semester of uni.


Unless the clothes are cotton and they're wet. Then they actually leech heat away from your body at an astounding rate and can kill ya. Only really good for hot, drier sort of weather. Not sure how synthetics do in such cases, but I recall that wool with the lanolin (some L chemical anyway) still in it actually gets better at insulating if it gets wet, which is part of why the coastal scots and irish were able to survive fishing there.

CurlyKitGirl
2010-01-06, 04:39 PM
*blink* *blink*

Oh. Em. Gee. Koorli, shame! :smalltongue:

Admittedly, it is a common expression. Still. Less v. fewer is my most major peeve in the whole wide world.

Well . . . next to "alot". And faze v. phase. I am a pedant.

It's a regional thing. A bit like 'drekly', 'madderdo'e' and a few others.

And you just chatspoke! YOU CHATSPOKE! *shuns* :smalltongue:

I have a peeve that I truly don't understand, yet it's so common on the internet, especially in fanfiction.
What is it?

'France is apart of Europe.'

"apart" :furious:

A PART!

France is a part of Europe.

Why do people mix it up??? They're frellin' antonyms.
Apart - not part of.
A part - part of.
They're not even pronounced the same! And many of these people cite themselves as native English speakers! And I have to accept it as otherwise, their English is pretty good.
It's a bit like 'alot' really. Every time I see it it makes me RAAAAGE.
Hooray for irrationality!

The number of people who do that, both 'apart' and 'alot'; and one of my internet friends recently got into writing fanfiction, so I offered to proofread it, because hey, why not? and mysteriously, she developed the same 'illness'. Is it contagious?

Trobby
2010-01-06, 04:46 PM
...*hides from the literary wrath*

o.o Oh, THAT game of Werewolf. I've played that before as a party game. ^.^

...I didn't know they had "versions" of it. o.o

Coidzor
2010-01-06, 04:47 PM
^: it's mostly just shells to tickle the fancies of the players, but occasionally they come up with new mechanics to suit the setting. Though occasionally there's this weird element of RP added into it, which I guess is really necessary to make it any fun online.
RAAAAGE.:furious:

It's called lazy spacing, silly. Also, getting into writing fanfiction usually comes with a risk of plummeting spelling and grammar skills just from dealing with any feedback from the community.

Being a native English speaker actually means you're more likely to do lazy or erroneous things just out of bad habits around one's self while growing up, silly. Having English as your native tongue does not give one some kind of mystical connection to the language, after all.

...Honestly though, I'm most disappointed in that you have expectations of fanfiction as a body. There are a few technically adroit writers, but the majority is a vast sea of seething, nay, festering filth.

CurlyKitGirl
2010-01-06, 05:01 PM
o.o Oh, THAT game of Werewolf. I've played that before as a party game. ^.^

...I didn't know they had "versions" of it. o.o

Course there are. All you do is adapt the basics to a new 'theme'.
I've been in classic werewolf, werewolf with adaptations and new rules and roles.

Pirates III is still one of the most famous/infamous games from SG. It's all Shadow's fault.
If anything, I think playing the games over the internet is far more paranoia inducing, allows for more trickery and deceit and is generally just better than a live version. More tactics are needed and applied.
Speaking of paranoia. There're blind games, and then Llama, Llama Duck; talk about headaches and worrying!
You really should give one a go Intro. Great fun. Especially for narrating and RPing.


It's called lazy spacing, silly. Also, getting into writing fanfiction usually comes with a risk of plummeting spelling and grammar skills just from dealing with any feedback from the community.

Being a native English speaker actually means you're more likely to do lazy or erroneous things just out of bad habits around one's self while growing up, silly. Having English as your native tongue does not give one some kind of mystical connection to the language, after all.

...Honestly though, I'm most disappointed in that you have expectations of fanfiction as a body. There are a few technically adroit writers, but the majority is a vast sea of seething, nay, festering filth.

No excuse. It's not the occasional 'apart' instead of 'a part'; it's always 'apart'. It's peculiar that it's just that one thing.
And yes, native English speakers, being more confident, are more likely to make mistakes, but - :smallsigh: Silly expectations being high because of a more highly articulate than normal forum and stories.
As far as Internet Fanfiction Friend goes, it's more expectations of her than fanfiction as a body. I occasionally read bad fanfiction for kicks.
Sometimes it has me break down and go in search of something better. Anything. Except girly young adult 'not romance' (it's always romance).

Rutskarn
2010-01-06, 05:06 PM
And incidentally, I never understood how Werewolf games were supposed to work online. It seems like people would just vote randomly because you can't work off of tells and conversation with other players.

As someone currently in a Werewolf game, I can explain that a bit. A lot of the really juicy mechanics go on behind the scenes, over the PM system. It's all about figuring out who your allies are (and in many variants, such as I believe the current one, the wolves don't start out knowing who each other are).

Plus, after the first few establishing rounds, you try to figure out who the wolves are by how they act as one. I'm guessing the wolves try to throw the humans off the trail.

Dogmantra
2010-01-06, 05:12 PM
On apart/a part & alot/a lot, I once saw someone had the line "Want to feel abit stupid" in their sig. I PMed them saying that they probably made a typo. They PMed back.

"I like it better that way."
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Thufir
2010-01-06, 05:24 PM
*blink* *blink*

Oh. Em. Gee. Koorli, shame! :smalltongue:

Admittedly, it is a common expression. Still. Less v. fewer is my most major peeve in the whole wide world.

They're interchangeable. Nothing you say will convince me otherwise.


Well . . . next to "alot". And faze v. phase. I am a pedant.

These, I agree on.


(and in many variants, such as I believe the current one, the wolves don't start out knowing who each other are).

Have to point out, there is no 'current' game. Or rather there are several. I can think of 7 off the top of my head which are currently running.


Incidentally, as a FB conversation from a few months back will attest, I never understood how WW was supposed to work offline, since I knew it first here.

Rutskarn
2010-01-06, 05:28 PM
Have to point out, there is no 'current' game. Or rather there are several. I can think of 7 off the top of my head which are currently running.


Well, yeah, obviously. I was referring to the one I'm currently in, since I've been in several.

Coidzor
2010-01-06, 05:29 PM
Incidentally, as a FB conversation from a few months back will attest, I never understood how WW was supposed to work offline, since I knew it first here.

What's to understand about a big ol' circle of humanity?

Koorly, I'm starting to think that you believe this (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RousseauWasRight). This concerns me for your moral and emotional wellbeing.

Player_Zero
2010-01-06, 05:29 PM
As someone currently in a Werewolf game, I can explain that a bit. A lot of the really juicy mechanics go on behind the scenes, over the PM system. It's all about figuring out who your allies are (and in many variants, such as I believe the current one, the wolves don't start out knowing who each other are).

Plus, after the first few establishing rounds, you try to figure out who the wolves are by how they act as one. I'm guessing the wolves try to throw the humans off the trail.

Heh... Heheh... Heh...

Just imagining playing one of those. I'm already completely untrustworthy. Werewolf or no I would be a threat to everyone and would logically have to be killed the first day.

CurlyKitGirl
2010-01-06, 05:31 PM
Incidentally, as a FB conversation from a few months back will attest, I never understood how WW was supposed to work offline, since I knew it first here.

I knew it here first. It's, well, I don't find it as interesting.
Why?
In all the versions I've played there's no chance to coordinate anyone. If you're a scryer and you find people on your team - lovely! I know who not to point at. But I can't communicate with them. Not unless I want to die by werewolf tonight.
It induces more paranoia (especially as sometimes if you announce your role outright, or even imply it, The Hand Of God Smites You and you die), but tactics suffer because of it.
And as far as RP goes, you all sit in a circle and develop paranoia to an extreme level. No RP outside of "I heard Y move last night."

I vastly prefer online werewolves.

EDIT:
@P_Z: That's why you'd be a perfect player. :smallcool:

@Coidzor: I do tend to believe that. Then when I don't I follow the Vimes theory of humanity.

Coidzor
2010-01-06, 05:33 PM
Silly girl, it's the extreme paranoia that makes it cathartic!

It's part of realizing that we can die at any time and can never fully trust anyone, not even the person sharing our bed.

Dragonrider
2010-01-06, 05:34 PM
They're interchangeable. Nothing you say will convince me otherwise.

Less is used for uncountables.

"I have less milk".

Fewer is for things you can count.

"I have fewer glasses of milk."


Why do people mix it up??? They're frellin' antonyms.
Apart - not part of.
A part - part of.
They're not even pronounced the same! And many of these people cite themselves as native English speakers! And I have to accept it as otherwise, their English is pretty good.
It's a bit like 'alot' really. Every time I see it it makes me RAAAAGE.
Hooray for irrationality!

The number of people who do that, both 'apart' and 'alot'; and one of my internet friends recently got into writing fanfiction, so I offered to proofread it, because hey, why not? and mysteriously, she developed the same 'illness'. Is it contagious?

I also dislike "everyday", but that's just nitpicky. "Everyday" and "every day" refer to the same thing, but they are different parts of speech. :smallmad: "Everyday" is an adjective.

"This is my everyday dress".

As opposed to

"I wear this dress every day."



But the one that gets me the most (because I see plenty of highly educated people doing it) is PHASE and FAZE.

A phase is a noun - a cycle. Or a passing thing. "She's just going through a phase." NOT A VERB THAT MEANS 'TO THROW OFF'.

Faze is the verb. "That phase she's going through really fazes me."

I'm going to join in and

RAGE! :furious:

KuReshtin
2010-01-06, 05:36 PM
No excuse. It's not the occasional 'apart' instead of 'a part'; it's always 'apart'. It's peculiar that it's just that one thing.
And yes, native English speakers, being more confident, are more likely to make mistakes, but - :smallsigh: Silly expectations being high because of a more highly articulate than normal forum and stories.
As far as Internet Fanfiction Friend goes, it's more expectations of her than fanfiction as a body. I occasionally read bad fanfiction for kicks.
Sometimes it has me break down and go in search of something better. Anything. Except girly young adult 'not romance' (it's always romance).

My pet peeve is people not being able to use apostrophes correctly.

Your and you're isn't the same thing.
There is actually an apostrophe in I'm, isn't and weren't. They're not spelled Im, isnt and wernt (yes, I left out the second e in weren't on purpose).
I even know a guy that uses commas instead of apostrophes, so his writing looks something like this:
"I,m not sure you,re correct in writing sentences that way."

Coidzor
2010-01-06, 05:39 PM
^: That comma in place of apostrophes thing is incredibly creepy. Other problems I see as bad or mistakes or annoying, but that comma deal... Cthulhoid horror.


I'm surprised that you see people use the word faze at all. Seeing someone use "unfazed" is incredibly rare for me and that's still the most common form of it I'll encounter.

Dallas-Dakota
2010-01-06, 05:40 PM
Both have their ups and downs.
Strategy is vastly downsized in real WW, but the RP is much better.(Ofcourse you have to be with the right people)
While online, it's reversed.

Also one of my english teachers once told me there are no apostrophes in english.:smalltongue: Silly english teachers.

__
Also the teacher who knows most about/leads international stuff refuses to give me more information because...''not yet''.

Seriously, that was the only thing she said.

Then again, she also ''teaches'' the workshop(which is sadly required) about micrsoft office, powerpoint and excel(sp?):smallyuk::smallyuk::smallyuk:

__
Koorly, I wrote fanfiction once. While tipsy.
Reviewers praised me and refused to believe I wasn't a native english speaker.:smallbiggrin::smallcool:

Dragonrider
2010-01-06, 05:47 PM
My pet peeve is people not being able to use apostrophes correctly.

Your and you're isn't the same thing.
There is actually an apostrophe in I'm, isn't and weren't. They're not spelled Im, isnt and wernt (yes, I left out the second e in weren't on purpose).
I even know a guy that uses commas instead of apostrophes, so his writing looks something like this:
"I,m not sure you,re correct in writing sentences that way."

Yeah, those are classic. :smalltongue: I think a lot of people who misuse (certainly when it comes to omitting apostrophes) know the difference, but they're lazy about it.

Thufir
2010-01-06, 05:49 PM
Less is used for uncountables.

"I have less milk".

Fewer is for things you can count.

"I have fewer glasses of milk."

OK, correction: Less can be substituted for fewer, but not vice versa. But "less glasses of milk" is still valid.
Strangely, though I've disputed this point more than once with my best friend, I can't recall him ever explaining it, at least not that clearly.

@KuReshtin: I've actually made the your/you're mistake myself when I can only assume I was just typing too fast. Then I look back and RAGE at myself, briefly, before correcting it and moving on.

My big anecdote for this is that one of my GCSE english lessons was actually devoted to making sure we understood how to properly use apostrophes. I was all, "Whuh? I learned this, like, 5 years ago. Do the rest of you just have terrible memories or something?" :smallconfused:

KuReshtin
2010-01-06, 05:53 PM
Crap. I just spotted a mistake in my grammar-nazi post.

BAD KuReshtin! It's "I know a guy WHO uses...", not "I know a guy THAT uses...".

*finds ruler and raps himself over the knuckles*

Mr. Mud
2010-01-06, 05:55 PM
*crawls out of basement half alive*. I finally, after 4 hours, fixed my leaky sink. I feel like I just won an Olympic medal.

Also, new sig banner.

DraPrime
2010-01-06, 05:59 PM
*crawls out of basement half alive*. I finally, after 4 hours, fixed my leaky sink. I feel like I just won an Olympic medal.

Also, new sig banner.

What was making it leak?

Mr. Mud
2010-01-06, 06:00 PM
Crack in the pipe... I soddered 'er up. And sweet avatar.

DraPrime
2010-01-06, 06:02 PM
Crack in the pipe... I soddered 'er up. And sweet avatar.

Thank you. And for cracks I just use bondo. Much faster, less tiresome, and really damn strong.

Dragonrider
2010-01-06, 06:12 PM
OK, correction: Less can be substituted for fewer, but not vice versa. But "less glasses of milk" is still valid.
Strangely, though I've disputed this point more than once with my best friend, I can't recall him ever explaining it, at least not that clearly.

I stand by my point :smallbiggrin:


Crack in the pipe... I soddered 'er up. And sweet avatar.

While we're doing the pedantic thing . . . soldered*. :smalltongue:


*


My parents are coming home tonight and I want to bake something. So far I've gotten votes for cake balls, sugar cookies, doughnut holes, and brownies. Any suggestions?

Kobold-Bard
2010-01-06, 06:15 PM
My parents are coming home tonight and I want to bake something. So far I've gotten votes for cake balls, sugar cookies, doughnut holes, and brownies. Any suggestions?

Scones. Because in school, when they said the word bake, that's what we were always making.

DraPrime
2010-01-06, 06:17 PM
My parents are coming home tonight and I want to bake something. So far I've gotten votes for cake balls, sugar cookies, doughnut holes, and brownies. Any suggestions?

Chocolate lava cakes. Those things are delicious.

Alteran
2010-01-06, 07:06 PM
They're interchangeable. Nothing you say will convince me otherwise.


By making such a statement, are you not almost admitting defeat? You strongly imply that you know that you're wrong, at least in the objective view. If you felt that you could defend your position, you would have no need to ignore arguments against it.

Also, what Dragonrider said.


My pet peeve is people not being able to use apostrophes correctly.


I agree ardently. So does she. (http://www.daniellecorsetto.com/archive.php?comic=849)



My parents are coming home tonight and I want to bake something. So far I've gotten votes for cake balls, sugar cookies, doughnut holes, and brownies. Any suggestions?

Those! I'm not entirely sure what they are, and I don't think I've ever had them, but they sound delicious.

Kobold-Bard
2010-01-06, 07:09 PM
...Those! I'm not entirely sure what they are, and I don't think I've ever had them, but they sound delicious.

They really are. Or at least the ones my gf's friend makes were. Lemon or chocolate, and one extra special one that was both. She makes them for a living now, so she can't afford to send any more freebies because she works on such tight margins :smallfrown:

DraPrime
2010-01-06, 07:19 PM
Those! I'm not entirely sure what they are, and I don't think I've ever had them, but they sound delicious.

The name pretty much tells you all there is to know. It's balls of cakey goodness.

Alteran
2010-01-06, 07:20 PM
The name pretty much tells you all there is to know. It's balls of cakey goodness.

That was my assumption, I wouldn't base a recommendation off of nothing at all. :smalltongue:

DraPrime
2010-01-06, 07:23 PM
That was my assumption, I wouldn't base a recommendation off of nothing at all. :smalltongue:

Well in that case, I recommend you go here (http://www.google.com/) to find out more about cake balls.

Thufir
2010-01-06, 07:47 PM
By making such a statement, are you not almost admitting defeat? You strongly imply that you know that you're wrong, at least in the objective view. If you felt that you could defend your position, you would have no need to ignore arguments against it.

Um... no. I do not in any way imply that I'm wrong. In fact, saying I will not be convinced otherwise indicates I am very confident in the fact I am right. And I didn't say I'd ignore arguments against my position, just that they wouldn't convince me.

c.f: "1+1=2. Nothing you say will convince me otherwise."

Same phrasing, but I'm sure you wouldn't claim I'm admitting defeat in this case.

Dragonrider
2010-01-06, 08:05 PM
Those! I'm not entirely sure what they are, and I don't think I've ever had them, but they sound delicious.

I didn't make those because I've done so twice in the last two weeks and wanted something different (I made emoticon sugar cookies instead >.>) but yes, they are delicious. You make them:

Step 1: make cake (I've done chocolate and vanilla).
Step 2: allow to cool
Step 3: crumble into little bits
Step 4: add frosting of your choice until it all sticks together
Step 5: roll into balls between your hands
Step 6: roll in melted chocolate or candy coating of your choice
Step 7: allow to harden
Step 8: feast!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2301/2098641959_ff33a21b42.jpg

Zocelot
2010-01-06, 08:11 PM
Those really do sound delicious. I will have to make some the next time I have some cake around. How big are the balls though? I have no concept of size.

Dragonrider
2010-01-06, 08:14 PM
Those really do sound delicious. I will have to make some the next time I have some cake around. How big are the balls though? I have no concept of size.

Golf ball-size or so. But really, you can make them however big or small you want. I tend to go smaller than golf ball cuz then it makes more :smallwink:

Alteran
2010-01-06, 08:19 PM
Um... no. I do not in any way imply that I'm wrong. In fact, saying I will not be convinced otherwise indicates I am very confident in the fact I am right. And I didn't say I'd ignore arguments against my position, just that they wouldn't convince me.

c.f: "1+1=2. Nothing you say will convince me otherwise."

Same phrasing, but I'm sure you wouldn't claim I'm admitting defeat in this case.

One should never go into a serious argument completely unprepared to be convinced that they're wrong. While you might consider it extremely unlikely, if you're not open to the possibility of changing your mind, there's really no point in arguing. And since you can't really know whether or not you would ever be convinced, I read your comment as "I will not allow myself to be convinced otherwise". That's really the only way it's not at all possible, with very few exceptions. Math will give you good examples of possible exceptions, but the English language is a very different topic.


I didn't make those because I've done so twice in the last two weeks and wanted something different (I made emoticon sugar cookies instead >.>) but yes, they are delicious. You make them:

Step 1: make cake (I've done chocolate and vanilla).
Step 2: allow to cool
Step 3: crumble into little bits
Step 4: add frosting of your choice until it all sticks together
Step 5: roll into balls between your hands
Step 6: roll in melted chocolate or candy coating of your choice
Step 7: allow to harden
Step 8: feast!


:smalleek:

Those sound delicious. I must try making them some time.

Perenelle
2010-01-06, 08:30 PM
I didn't make those because I've done so twice in the last two weeks and wanted something different (I made emoticon sugar cookies instead >.>) but yes, they are delicious. You make them:

Step 1: make cake (I've done chocolate and vanilla).
Step 2: allow to cool
Step 3: crumble into little bits
Step 4: add frosting of your choice until it all sticks together
Step 5: roll into balls between your hands
Step 6: roll in melted chocolate or candy coating of your choice
Step 7: allow to harden
Step 8: feast!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2301/2098641959_ff33a21b42.jpg



:O ...... *Drool*.. I have to try those next time I have cake mix. :smallbiggrin: they look yummy.

Dragonrider
2010-01-06, 08:35 PM
:O ...... *Drool*.. I have to try those next time I have cake mix. :smallbiggrin: they look yummy.

or you could make the cake from scratch - 's what I do. :smallsmile:

For chocolate cake, I double this recipe (http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/BAKERS-ONE-BOWL-Cake/Detail.aspx) (only three eggs, though, not four) and use 1 cup melted chocolate chips in place of the baking chocolate.

For vanilla cake, I have my own recipe -
In large mixing bowl, combine:

½ C butter, softened
1 ¾ C sugar

Slowly add

3 eggs
1 tsp vanilla
1 1/3 C buttermilk

And stir in

2 C flour
1 tsp baking powder
½ tsp baking soda
1/8 tsp salt

Bake at 350F for 20-25min in two round cake pans lined with wax paper.

Trobby
2010-01-06, 08:53 PM
...

Tasty food...:O We need a thread for tasty food. Specifically, for recipes.

Granted, talking about them here isn't bad, but a dedicated thread woudl be even better.

Dragonrider
2010-01-06, 08:53 PM
...

Tasty food...:O We need a thread for tasty food. Specifically, for recipes.

Granted, talking about them here isn't bad, but a dedicated thread woudl be even better.

We have one, somewhere in the long-lost annals of FB. There was talk of stickying it because it keeps disappearing, but it never happened.

Anuan
2010-01-06, 09:15 PM
...Cannot...stop...drooling...over cakeballs...

...Dammit, DeeRee, now I have to go change my shirt. D:

Perenelle
2010-01-06, 09:54 PM
or you could make the cake from scratch - 's what I do. :smallsmile:

For chocolate cake, I double this recipe (http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/BAKERS-ONE-BOWL-Cake/Detail.aspx) (only three eggs, though, not four) and use 1 cup melted chocolate chips in place of the baking chocolate.

For vanilla cake, I have my own recipe -
In large mixing bowl, combine:

½ C butter, softened
1 ¾ C sugar

Slowly add

3 eggs
1 tsp vanilla
1 1/3 C buttermilk

And stir in

2 C flour
1 tsp baking powder
½ tsp baking soda
1/8 tsp salt

Bake at 350F for 20-25min in two round cake pans lined with wax paper.

*drool* I must try your cake recipe along with the cake balls. Thankses you. :smallbiggrin:

Partof1
2010-01-06, 10:50 PM
You people and your baking skill/motivation.

Moff Chumley
2010-01-06, 11:35 PM
You know what's great? Mixing melted butter, vanilla, corn syrup, and brown sugar. Allow it to harden, eat, suffer a heart attack. Good fun. :smallcool:

Phase
2010-01-06, 11:44 PM
But the one that gets me the most (because I see plenty of highly educated people doing it) is PHASE and FAZE.

A phase is a noun - a cycle. Or a passing thing. "She's just going through a phase." NOT A VERB THAT MEANS 'TO THROW OFF'.

Faze is the verb. "That phase she's going through really fazes me."

Ey? What what? Feh.

Anyway, I recently learned that a couple of friends of mine have hooked up/are going to be a thing.

This made me feel two things: I.) Lonely. II.) Really damn appreciated.

Why? Because over this year my self-confidence and self-image have gone up drastically, due in part due to how much closer I've become with my friends. The girl of the aforementioned couple actually asked ME what I thought of the other. I was touched.

*Sigh.*

And by, er uh, TOUCHED, I mean I was touched! In a literal sense! Ahahahaha.

Moff Chumley
2010-01-06, 11:53 PM
I'd like to quote my friend: As the hipsters say, "'m'a gonna slap da rest o dos tunes, see wut dey got. fur reel"

I love my friend.

Rutskarn
2010-01-07, 12:37 AM
Ey? What what? Feh.

Anyway, I recently learned that a couple of friends of mine have hooked up/are going to be a thing.

This made me feel two things: I.) Lonely. II.) Really damn appreciated.

Why? Because over this year my self-confidence and self-image have gone up drastically, due in part due to how much closer I've become with my friends. The girl of the aforementioned couple actually asked ME what I thought of the other. I was touched.

*Sigh.*

And by, er uh, TOUCHED, I mean I was touched! In a literal sense! Ahahahaha.

Members of my social networks hook up without announcement or ceremony. I usually figure out who's where when a.) there's a PDA, or b.) someone comes to me bawling about something or another.

Also, you would not believe how many people have come to me with relationship advice. I am not in a relationship. I have never come within spitting distance of a relationship. I've never particularly wanted a relationship. Why am I Dear Abby alluvasudden?

Maybe it's because I'm a neutral party. I guess that makes sense.

Coplantor
2010-01-07, 12:44 AM
Well, I used to believe I was lonely, then I spent three whole days in a small room having practically no human contact except for the time I went outside for a short time to buy some sugar for my coffee, now I know I'm lonely.

Meh, I'll do something to fix it.

Dragonrider
2010-01-07, 12:45 AM
So three of my four ear piercings suddenly, after umpteen years of behaving, decided to get painful and slightly red today. After washing them with warm salt water I have successfully covered my keyboard, my fingers, and what feels like half my face with salt crusting. But my earlobes feel slightly better. :smalltongue:

...

This is the kind of thing that should really go in the Girl thread, isn't it?


Also:

My twelve-year-old brother today informed me that he sometimes reads Shipping "when I see your username as last post." :smalleek: I am both flattered and terrified. That he cares about me is great, but SHIPPING+HIM=BIGSISTERHORROR

Phase
2010-01-07, 12:53 AM
Members of my social networks hook up without announcement or ceremony. I usually figure out who's where when a.) there's a PDA, or b.) someone comes to me bawling about something or another.

No announcement. PDA.


Maybe it's because I'm a neutral party. I guess that makes sense.

Not really, people just be crazy.

Dallas-Dakota
2010-01-07, 12:54 AM
Consering what we/you sometimes write in there....:smalltongue:

Yeah, you should just tell him to stay out.
Or that might just make him read it more.:smallamused::smalltongue:

And no, being a neutral party does not make people come to your for advice/bawl their eyes out.

Dragonrider
2010-01-07, 12:56 AM
Consering what we/you sometimes write in there....:smalltongue:

Yeah, you should just tell him to stay out.
Or that might just make him read it more.:smallamused::smalltongue:

And no, being a neutral party does not make people come to your for advice/bawl their eyes out.

Chyeah. I'll post all my fics after he goes to bed and thusly he won't ever see my name. :smallbiggrin: Presuming the thread isn't snaillike at the time.


Edit: That wasn't a hint to go read the one I just posted, but it could be. :smallamused:itsortofsuckssodon't

Alleine
2010-01-07, 12:57 AM
Also, you would not believe how many people have come to me with relationship advice. I am not in a relationship. I have never come within spitting distance of a relationship. I've never particularly wanted a relationship. Why am I Dear Abby alluvasudden?

It is because they're unconsciously searching for someone intelligent to solve their problems. And no I'm not complementing you. Relationships make people stupid. Like, really really stupid. No joke. And then they come running to someone not in a trap relationship in order figure out how to think straight long enough to not run everything into the ground. Yet.

Rutskarn
2010-01-07, 01:00 AM
It is because they're unconsciously searching for someone intelligent to solve their problems. And no I'm not complementing you. Relationships make people stupid. Like, really really stupid. No joke. And then they come running to someone not in a trap relationship in order figure out how to think straight long enough to not run everything into the ground. Yet.

So, you're comparing people in a relationship to frightened animals, basically.

Dragonrider
2010-01-07, 01:03 AM
So, you're comparing people in a relationship to frightened animals, basically.

I liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiike. :smallamused:

Anuan
2010-01-07, 01:04 AM
My twelve-year-old brother today informed me that he sometimes reads Shipping "when I see your username as last post." :smalleek: I am both flattered and terrified. That he cares about me is great, but SHIPPING+HIM=BIGSISTERHORROR

You and cycoris had the exact same reaction. He's fine, don't worry :smalltongue: and if anything nasty happens, threaten him with head-shaving if he goes in there again.

Alleine
2010-01-07, 01:05 AM
Frightened and probably lobotomized animals. It astounds me.

Player_Zero
2010-01-07, 01:07 AM
Well, I used to believe I was lonely, then I spent three whole days in a small room having practically no human contact except for the time I went outside for a short time to buy some sugar for my coffee, now I know I'm lonely.

Meh, I'll do something to fix it.

Oh yes, three whole days. That must've been tough.

You know, I actually wince and look away when I see people holding hands. Bet you can't top that.

Coplantor
2010-01-07, 01:09 AM
Oh yes, three whole days. That must've been tough.

You know, I actually wince and look away when I see people holding hands. Bet you can't top that.

I dont know, I'm about to start my fourth day of loneliness in a few hours, I've been sleeping 12+ hours also and I dont think I've worn any pants except when I went to buy sugar.

Lioness
2010-01-07, 01:12 AM
Yeah, those are classic. :smalltongue: I think a lot of people who misuse (certainly when it comes to omitting apostrophes) know the difference, but they're lazy about it.

Thank the earth you didn't say 'Emitting apostrophes'

Because that would be hilarious. I can imagine it.

And HOW did I miss an entire grammatical discussion? I feel left out :(

Anuan
2010-01-07, 01:14 AM
Thank the earth you didn't say 'Emitting apostrophes'

Because that would be hilarious. I can imagine it.

And HOW did I miss an entire grammatical discussion? I feel left out :(

My friend's teacher failed them on an exam, kept correcting what the student wrote as 'emitted' to 'omitted.'

...The teacher was an idiot. Eyes do not 'omit' tears whilst crying. The friend had a poor choice of words, but better than the teacher.

Lioness
2010-01-07, 01:15 AM
My friend's teacher failed them on an exam, kept correcting what the student wrote as 'emitted' to 'omitted.'

...The teacher was an idiot. Eyes do not 'omit' tears whilst crying. The friend had a poor choice of words, but better than the teacher.

!

That's ridiculous.

I must find the picture I found a while ago...had many amusing grammar mistakes

Player_Zero
2010-01-07, 01:19 AM
I dont know, I'm about to start my fourth day of loneliness in a few hours, I've been sleeping 12+ hours also and I dont think I've worn any pants except when I went to buy sugar.

Okay, let me be more literal and say I go weeks without talking to anyone. I get up late, go to what lectures I haven't missed, usually having a row to myself, walk back to my room and go to bed.

I think last term the only conversations I had were a couple of awkward politenesses to one of my housemates and within the mandatory tutor session.

In this time I don't have the internet, I don't have much entertainment to speak of.

While there are people around me when I am in lectures, the only human contact I feel is overhearing their conversations.

I realise that this is by no means the worst of scenarios, but it is still aggravating to hear you say that spending four days alone is "true loneliness".

Alleine
2010-01-07, 01:24 AM
A few days alone is defined by me as a weekend. A week or more is called 'vacation'. Granted, I still live with my family so I'm not quite alone as a I'd like.

'course, I don't mind being alone so much. Not often leastways.

Coidzor
2010-01-07, 01:26 AM
I liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiike. :smallamused:

Haha. You would. :smallamused:

I just had some of my milk be expelled from my body through my nostrils.

Coplantor
2010-01-07, 01:26 AM
oh no, I did'nt meant true loneliness, sorry if I might have offended you. This was just a comment on how this seems to be more and more frequent lately on my life and I fear that this is what I'll be like after I finish college (this are actually my vacations).
Once I get a job I'll be able to afford sitting around and doing nothing.

I gues it all depends on the person.

Rutskarn
2010-01-07, 01:27 AM
Okay, let me be more literal and say I go weeks without talking to anyone. I get up late, go to what lectures I haven't missed, usually having a row to myself, walk back to my room and go to bed.

I think last term the only conversations I had were a couple of awkward politenesses to one of my housemates and within the mandatory tutor session.

In this time I don't have the internet, I don't have much entertainment to speak of.

While there are people around me when I am in lectures, the only human contact I feel is overhearing their conversations.

I realise that this is by no means the worst of scenarios, but it is still aggravating to hear you say that spending four days alone is "true loneliness".

You've answered this question a dozen times in a half-dozen ways, but I'm going to ask it anyway for tradition's sake.

Why's your situation like that?

Lioness
2010-01-07, 01:27 AM
I must find the picture I found a while ago...had many amusing grammar mistakes

Found it!

'Your throws of exstacy send me into throes of amusement'
'Your stupid. (My stupid what?)'
'If you really did have baited breath, you would smell rather fishy'
'Rouge is a colour. A rogue isn't'
'Never enter your PIN number into an ATM machine. You could get the HIV virus'
'You can defuse a bomb, but diffusing it might be a bad idea'
'Fire is fiery. Burn all misspellings.'

Okay, so it's not so amusing as I rememembered, but I enjoyed it at the time.

Lioness
2010-01-07, 01:30 AM
*snip*

But one person's loneliness is different to another's. What may seem like no big deal to you may very well be a big deal to him.

Player_Zero
2010-01-07, 01:30 AM
You've answered this question a dozen times in a half-dozen ways, but I'm going to ask it anyway for tradition's sake.

Why's your situation like that?

Do you want a maudlin answer that sounds like it came from a bad movie? I've got just the one prepared afterall.

Because I'm a Zero.

Rutskarn
2010-01-07, 01:33 AM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/169/463704422_4436f94cdf.jpg

I want the truth!

Coplantor
2010-01-07, 01:34 AM
Well, it was fun and all but I gotta go to sleep, I just realized today was my father's birthday so I'llneed to come up with a better excusefor not calling hm than"I was playing contra"

@^: Really Rutskarn? This seems a little clichè for you.

Rutskarn
2010-01-07, 01:38 AM
Can't beat the classics, that's what I say when I'm tired and trying to write a post while Lucas is driving me slowly insane.

Alteran
2010-01-07, 01:38 AM
And HOW did I miss an entire grammatical discussion? I feel left out :(

It's your silly Australian time.

Silly silly silly.

Player_Zero
2010-01-07, 01:39 AM
I want the truth!

No you don't, or you wouldn't've asked in the form of a joke.

Besides that, I wouldn't ever tell you.

Rutskarn
2010-01-07, 01:42 AM
Eh. One of us was going to turn this topic into a joke to prevent it from getting awkward. I figured if it was me, it'd be more likely the response would be honest.

Seems that's a trap in and of itself.

Coidzor
2010-01-07, 01:54 AM
I for one have difficulty believing that this just happened.

I feel like I need to take out my eyeballs, clean them, and put them back in before doing the same with my glasses.

Player_Zero
2010-01-07, 02:02 AM
My response was honest.

And I wouldn't go and making jokes in such a situation. I'm quite sure you could hurt someone's feelings. Not mine, of course, us aloof misanthropes can't have them.

I'm going to bed.

Lioness
2010-01-07, 02:52 AM
It's your silly Australian time.

Silly silly silly.

Nah. I was at archery, conversing with old people, and making them feel better about the youth of today.

And then I came home and stubbed my toe on the TV, putting a rather large hole in it (the toe, not the TV)

randman22222
2010-01-07, 03:03 AM
Nah. I was at archery, conversing with old people, and making them feel better about the youth of today.

And then I came home and stubbed my toe on the TV, putting a rather large hole in it (the toe, not the TV)

*Gasp!*
You do archery?!

I think we should get married. What kind of bow do you shoot? I'm looking at getting a Hoyt Nexus Eclipse. :smallbiggrin:
But Hoyts are sooo expensive...

Lioness
2010-01-07, 03:05 AM
*Gasp!*
You do archery?!

I think we should get married. What kind of bow do you shoot? I'm looking at getting a Hoyt Nexus. :smallbiggrin:
But Hoyts are sooo expensive...

lols. I'm sorry, I'm taken

And two archery people in a house=no money

But anyways, I shoot recurve - Samick Mizar

The Hoyts are expensive, but they look so pretty

randman22222
2010-01-07, 03:06 AM
lols. I'm sorry, I'm taken

And two archery people in a house=no money

But anyways, I shoot recurve - Samick Mizar

The Hoyts are expensive, but they look so pretty

They don't just look pretty; they shoot pretty as well. Have you ever shot one?

Lioness
2010-01-07, 03:09 AM
They don't just look pretty; they shoot pretty as well. Have you ever shot one?

Yup...played with a friend's.

So smooth...especially compared to the Samick, which vibrates so much it's not funny. My stabilizer keeps coming loose, and it fell off once :smalleek:

randman22222
2010-01-07, 03:16 AM
Yup...played with a friend's.

So smooth...especially compared to the Samick, which vibrates so much it's not funny. My stabilizer keeps coming loose, and it fell off once :smalleek:

Actually, I'm currently bowless, and rather strapped for cash. I need to find something cheap to shoot... Any suggestions?

Coidzor
2010-01-07, 03:19 AM
Nah. I was at archery, conversing with old people, and making them feel better about the youth of today.

And then I came home and stubbed my toe on the TV, putting a rather large hole in it (the toe, not the TV)

Sounds more like a puncture wound than a stubbing. :smallconfused:

How big of a hole is in your toe now?

Lioness
2010-01-07, 03:23 AM
Actually, I'm currently bowless, and rather strapped for cash. I need to find something cheap to shoot... Any suggestions?

Depends how cheap?

I've got my Mizar, which was about $300 for riser and limbs.

Alternatively, shoot with club equipment, if you have a club.



How big of a hole is in your toe now?

Approximately 2mm circled (like squared, but in a circle)

randman22222
2010-01-07, 03:29 AM
Depends how cheap?

I've got my Mizar, which was about $300 for riser and limbs.

Alternatively, shoot with club equipment, if you have a club.

Approximately 2mm circled (like squared, but in a circle)

The club has no equipment. Some place, huh? :smallannoyed:

That... sounds like an interesting wound. By interesting, I mean hard to do, and painful-sounding.

Lioness
2010-01-07, 03:36 AM
The club has no equipment. Some place, huh? :smallannoyed:

That... sounds like an interesting wound. By interesting, I mean hard to do, and painful-sounding.

Bizzare...how do they teach newbies?

You could get something dodgy off of Ebay, but it's dodgy as.

I will PM you another idea.

And yeah, I'm not quite sure how I got the hole, because I thought I hit the flat bit. Apparently not :S

Anuan
2010-01-07, 03:36 AM
*Gasp!*
You do archery?!

I think we should get married. What kind of bow do you shoot? I'm looking at getting a Hoyt Nexus Eclipse. :smallbiggrin:
But Hoyts are sooo expensive...

Have you not seen those incredible pictures of her as a Bow-wielding Ninja? :smalltongue:

Dogmantra
2010-01-07, 04:43 AM
Get up at 7. Check school website. "07/01/10 - School is open today, after being closed at 2pm yesterday. Day pupil buses will be on normal schedule. All teachers and students are expected to attend."
Doggy: "Awwww... ah well..."
Get dressed. Drink tea.
7.30, check website again for updates. Nothing.
Drink more tea.
Doggy's mum: "I can't believe they want you to drive that far."
Doggy: "I know. They're only gritting A and B roads as well!"
Doggy's Dad: "Should be okay. Still, can't believe it's not closed. Check the website at 8."
8, check website again. Same message. Drive to school.
Get in. Boarders say Doggy is silly for coming in. Doggy says that it's on the website as being open.
8.25, start going down to Headmaster's Assembly.
8.27, halfway to assembly find that it's cancelled and that it's registration with tutors instead.
8.28, go up to house instead after being told that we should do that.
8.30, school is cancelled.
9.10, Doggy goes home.
9.54, Doggy writes this post

The moral of the story is:
Don't update your silly website at 6am because it snowed mostly between half 7 and half 8!

Phaedra
2010-01-07, 05:30 AM
Okay, let me be more literal and say I go weeks without talking to anyone. I get up late, go to what lectures I haven't missed, usually having a row to myself, walk back to my room and go to bed.

I think last term the only conversations I had were a couple of awkward politenesses to one of my housemates and within the mandatory tutor session.

In this time I don't have the internet, I don't have much entertainment to speak of.

While there are people around me when I am in lectures, the only human contact I feel is overhearing their conversations.

I realise that this is by no means the worst of scenarios, but it is still aggravating to hear you say that spending four days alone is "true loneliness".

Zero, you make me sad. Are you still in Notts? The offer of a cup of tea with actual human contact is still open. I promise I'm lovely.

Kobold-Bard
2010-01-07, 05:59 AM
Well, it was fun and all but I gotta go to sleep, I just realized today was my father's birthday so I'llneed to come up with a better excusefor not calling hm than"I was playing contra"

Do what I do. Say the card's in the post, then blame the latest postal strike/the weather/random acts of God for it not turning up. Bonus points if you can convince them you're buying a replacement because you're just such a wonderful child.

Dream time: My dream last night fortunately did not involve any kimono wearing men who attract book throwers. It did involve me being in my nan's old house while I found my cousin under their table crying. Turns out she had died in a Gameboy game, so I said I'd help her. Next thing I know we are basically in Jurassic Park after the fences fail, running around in the rain avoiding assorted dinosaurs until my cousin catches one in a Pokeball.

I woke up briefly, rolled over, and the only bit of the next dream that I can remember is a countdown of eople (in the style of T4) that ended with Lady Gaga going through a series of tubes like those in Futurama, collecting catbuses.

I feel my psyche may be damaged beyond repair :smallfrown:

Trobby
2010-01-07, 08:56 AM
Do what I do. Say the card's in the post, then blame the latest postal strike/the weather/random acts of God for it not turning up. Bonus points if you can convince them you're buying a replacement because you're just such a wonderful child.

Dream time: My dream last night fortunately did not involve any kimono wearing men who attract book throwers. It did involve me being in my nan's old house while I found my cousin under their table crying. Turns out she had died in a Gameboy game, so I said I'd help her. Next thing I know we are basically in Jurassic Park after the fences fail, running around in the rain avoiding assorted dinosaurs until my cousin catches one in a Pokeball.

I woke up briefly, rolled over, and the only bit of the next dream that I can remember is a countdown of eople (in the style of T4) that ended with Lady Gaga going through a series of tubes like those in Futurama, collecting catbuses.

I feel my psyche may be damaged beyond repair :smallfrown:

:p I once had a dream about the Muppet Babies, a giant brick fish, Jimmy Neutron, and Dinosaurs. All in one dream.

I managed to escape my dream by spinning around really fast in a chair.

...I've learned to accept that nothing is ever "normal" in a dream. <.<


@Doggy: Ahh...I hate it when that happens. They wait and wait and wait and then at the last possible second, cancel class, and all the effort you put in to getting there on time is wasted, AND you have to go back home through the dangerous roads anyway.

Castaras
2010-01-07, 11:12 AM
I hate matrices.

So so much.

Especially transformation matrices.

Simultaneous equation matrices are fun. But transformations are AWFUL.

blackfox
2010-01-07, 11:23 AM
...I am now officially not looking forward to linear algebra next fall. :smalleek:

Dragonrider
2010-01-07, 12:06 PM
Haha. You would. :smallamused:

Actually, I would be delighted to have a relationship. :smalltongue: Just lacking a guy with interest (in whom I'm also interested).


I hate matrices.

So so much.

Especially transformation matrices.

Simultaneous equation matrices are fun. But transformations are AWFUL.

ME. TOO. >.<

God. I don't know how I got through that stuff.

Jibar
2010-01-07, 12:08 PM
Actually, I would be delighted to have a relationship. :smalltongue: Just lacking a guy with interest (in whom I'm also interested).


*bobs up*

*for he has drowned at sea*

*what a forlorn fate*

*for one such as me*

*to die alone*

*floating in the sea*

Kobold-Bard
2010-01-07, 12:23 PM
I hate matrices.

So so much.

Especially transformation matrices.

Simultaneous equation matrices are fun. But transformations are AWFUL.

People who say maths/physics etc. are fun scare me. I find the idea that complicated mathematics can be entertaining a little unnerving :smallwink:

DraPrime
2010-01-07, 12:37 PM
People who say maths/physics etc. are fun scare me. I find the idea that complicated mathematics can be entertaining a little unnerving :smallwink:

Having grown up with a father who got his PhD at MIT, I can tell you that there is a certain beauty to complex mathematics. Not all people really get it but it's there. I myself don't really enjoy math, but I appreciate it, and can see why some would enjoy it.

Quincunx
2010-01-07, 12:51 PM
Mathematical beauty is like the linguistic beauty of a language from a different family than your native language and the geographical/topographical beauty of the landscape between native thought and the thoughts the equations depict. It is the beauty of the surface of honey to the fly and other such animal temptations. It is the beauty of completion and certainty like the satisfaction of examining a perfectly proportioned human figure or an artwork barred by the golden ratio.

Kobold-Bard
2010-01-07, 12:53 PM
Mathematical beauty is like the linguistic beauty of a language from a different family than your native language and the geographical/topographical beauty of the landscape between native thought and the thoughts the equations depict. It is the beauty of the surface of honey to the fly and other such animal temptations. It is the beauty of completion and certainty like the satisfaction of examining a perfectly proportioned human figure or an artwork barred by the golden ratio.

I really wish I could say that helped, but now I'm even more confused :smallredface:

It's not your fault though. I'm sure that makes wonderful sense, I'm just a bit simple :smallannoyed:

Dragonrider
2010-01-07, 12:54 PM
Mathematical beauty is like the linguistic beauty of a language from a different family than your native language and the geographical/topographical beauty of the landscape between native thought and the thoughts the equations depict. It is the beauty of the surface of honey to the fly and other such animal temptations. It is the beauty of completion and certainty like the satisfaction of examining a perfectly proportioned human figure or an artwork barred by the golden ratio.

The difference for me between linguistic beauty and mathematical is that the language makes me want to get in there and figure it out. How they conjugate, pluralize, how many forms of address they have, blah blah blah blah blah.

Mathematics is just sort of intimidating. :smalltongue:

(I have done calculus. I even sort of enjoyed it. But it's still intimidating.)

Thufir
2010-01-07, 01:18 PM
The difference for me between linguistic beauty and mathematical is that the language makes me want to get in there and figure it out.

This is just how I feel about maths.

Actually, I feel like that about a lot of things. I want to understand everything. But with maths I'm much better equipped to do so.

Quincunx
2010-01-07, 01:23 PM
Can you visualize a landscape when you study your languages, Dragonrider? I get glimpses of forms with mathematics but not with languages, and am quicker at getting from 'vague recognition' to 'comprehension' by using them. (They do, however, add nothing at all to the 'explanation' phase even when described to the best of language ability. To this day I can't write a satisfactory proof.)

My algebra class was the first in my school to test a visual representation, come to think of it. We had plastic sticks to represent X, shorter sticks to represent Y, X² & Y² & XY rectangles, and cubes of a different color, the width of the sticks, to represent 1. They were amusing toys, but not much more; at least among my friends, whoever 'got' algebra learned it from the equations and could move the bricks according to those, and nobody learned to move the bricks first and write their configurations down in mathematical notation. Have the visual aids fallen out of favor yet in favor of even newer trends in mathematical teaching?

Castaras
2010-01-07, 01:35 PM
People who say maths/physics etc. are fun scare me. I find the idea that complicated mathematics can be entertaining a little unnerving :smallwink:

Maths is awesome fun. Except for transformation matrices and statistics. :smallannoyed:

Physics *was* fun when it was equations. Now it's not fun because there's this horrible bit about "applying it to real life" which I don't like. :smalltongue:

Dragonrider
2010-01-07, 01:36 PM
Can you visualize a landscape when you study your languages, Dragonrider? I get glimpses of forms with mathematics but not with languages, and am quicker at getting from 'vague recognition' to 'comprehension' by using them. (They do, however, add nothing at all to the 'explanation' phase even when described to the best of language ability. To this day I can't write a satisfactory proof.)

I don't know landscape . . . but they just make sense to me. The way they fit together is like a puzzle, but the coolest thing about them is that then you can compare them to other puzzles with forms that are slightly different but achieve the same objective.

Actually, I guess your 'landscape' and my 'making sense' are sort of the same. It takes a lot of work for me to see the 'big picture' in math, but with language, it goes from dim to clear in a very short period. Like getting excited because I figured out on my own that while in English "I like apples" involved subject+verb+direct object, in Spanish "me gustan las manzanas" is indirect object+verb+subject. It just tickles my fancy, I guess. And then the application of that to things like "I'm missing two dollars" - "me faltan dos dólares" - which can be voiced in the same structure as English but the complexity of a grammatical structure we don't have ("two dollars are missing to me"?) . . . extrapolate that to wondering how these parallel but very different structures evolved and . . . yeah. I get crazy. :smallbiggrin:



Edit: My mum started out teaching my five-year-old brother math using chocolate chips. He does multiplication, he just doesn't know it: 'If you have three sets of two chocolate chips, how many do you have?' has now become 'What's three sets of two?' and give him another bit and he'll get the jargon ('Three times two').

Subtraction is the same. 'If I give you nine chocolate chips and you eat five, how many do you have left?' He's going to be one of those kids for whom math is intuitive (all my brothers are - I've always been 'good at math', but it's work for me, and not for them); yesterday I heard him counting backwards from three (why three? I dunno), down on into the negative twenties.

Thufir
2010-01-07, 01:39 PM
Maths is awesome fun. Except for transformation matrices and statistics. :smallannoyed:

Physics *was* fun when it was equations. Now it's not fun because there's this horrible bit about "applying it to real life" which I don't like. :smalltongue:

Statistics is not maths.
Matrices are maths, but can be rather annoying.

CurlyKitGirl
2010-01-07, 01:44 PM
So three of my four ear piercings suddenly, after umpteen years of behaving, decided to get painful and slightly red today. After washing them with warm salt water I have successfully covered my keyboard, my fingers, and what feels like half my face with salt crusting. But my earlobes feel slightly better. :smalltongue:

...

This is the kind of thing that should really go in the Girl thread, isn't it?

Oh, I got that once or twice a while ago, there're two probable causes.
One: when washing, if the earrings and area around it aren't rinsed properly you'll get a little buildup of hair products around it which irritate the skin lightly. Always triply rinse around the ears.
Two: a simple light infection. In that case, you're doing it fine. Fineish that is. From the sound of it, you use far too much warm salt water (it is proper warm salt water right? As in tap water, salt and genuine warm water - preferably water that's been at least semi-boiled). Fold a piece of tissue paper or toilet water into quarters, then dip half of it along the longest edge into the water.
Then, and you need to keep the earrings in, rub the wet part of the tissue in the gap between earring and earlobe. Don't forget to do front and back. Only after that do you wash the earring in salt water. Dry it on clean tissue and put back in.


Also:

My twelve-year-old brother today informed me that he sometimes reads Shipping "when I see your username as last post." :smalleek: I am both flattered and terrified. That he cares about me is great, but SHIPPING+HIM=BIGSISTERHORROR

:amused:
My thirteen-year-old sister knows nothing about this website. She doesn't know I'm on it. She doesn't even know what shipping is.
My seventeen-year-old brother vaguely knows about this website. He doesn't know I'm on it. He does know what shipping is.
My sixteen-year-old brother knows about this website. He knows I'm on it. He knows about shipping, but doesn't care for it.



I hate matrices.

So so much.

Especially transformation matrices.

Simultaneous equation matrices are fun. But transformations are AWFUL.

You're only in Y11! (Right? At best you could only be in your first year of college, so you should only be doing AS Math at best.) What're you doing matrices and thingies for?!
I don't even know what they are!
And I don't think I ever did.

EDIT: I also agree with DeeRee and the whole languages 'making sense' thing.

Also: hey Cassie! Haven't seen you in ages. How's things?


Actually, I would be delighted to have a relationship. :smalltongue: Just lacking a guy with interest (in whom I'm also interested).

I doubt you're missing much. Honestly. However, maybe an opinion from a girl who's actually
1) Been asked out and
2) Therefore been in a relationship
3) And been on dates
would be best.

. . .

Huh. TVs on, just saw Dana Scully strip down to her undies and then show herself to Mulder. I have no idea either; I was channel hopping.


The difference for me between linguistic beauty and mathematical is that the language makes me want to get in there and figure it out. How they conjugate, pluralize, how many forms of address they have, blah blah blah blah blah.

Mathematics is just sort of intimidating. :smalltongue:

(I have done calculus. I even sort of enjoyed it. But it's still intimidating.)

So true. Except replace "have done calculus" with "haven't done calculus" (I think) and "intimidating" with "uninteresting and boring".

ION:
Eldest Younger Brother is binkers. Know how cold it was today here? In Oxfordshire it was as low as -18*C in the early hours of the morn.
I estimate that when said sibling went walkies it was around -1/-2*C. And he wasn't wearing a coat, just a jacket/hoodie thing. He was gone for almost two hours. Binkeerrrrrssssss.

Also: I take great amusement from the local radio show. The Schools Closed list today was a good ten minutes long. Every, and I mean every school in my disctrict was closed today, and probably a good 95+% schools countywide. Yesterday only a tenth of the schools were not on the closed list; doesn't mean they weren't closed, but they weren't on the list - like Dogmantra's school.
Elder Younger Brother's college was 'not closed'. Practically every other school was. It's also the most popular one in the county. Noone was going to show up today. Noone.
I wonder why they thought people actually would. Even Best Friend, who lives some ten odd miles away from college didn't go in today. Transport. And too cold. And snow.

Dragonrider
2010-01-07, 01:55 PM
Oh, I got that once or twice a while ago, there're two probable causes.
One: when washing, if the earrings and area around it aren't rinsed properly you'll get a little buildup of hair products around it which irritate the skin lightly. Always triply rinse around the ears.
Two: a simple light infection. In that case, you're doing it fine. Fineish that is. From the sound of it, you use far too much warm salt water (it is proper warm salt water right? As in tap water, salt and genuine warm water - preferably water that's been at least semi-boiled). Fold a piece of tissue paper or toilet water into quarters, then dip half of it along the longest edge into the water.
Then, and you need to keep the earrings in, rub the wet part of the tissue in the gap between earring and earlobe. Don't forget to do front and back. Only after that do you wash the earring in salt water. Dry it on clean tissue and put back in.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I did. It seemed to clear the problem up. It happens in my first piercings a lot (I got them when I was thirteen and didn't take as good care of them in the first six months - I think they're still mad at me or something) but the second set have never had a problem until the left one decided to jump on the bandwagon yesterday. But they don't hurt anymore so I think I'm okay. I'll keep washing them every night for the next couple days and see how it goes.


:amused:
My thirteen-year-old sister knows nothing about this website. She doesn't know I'm on it. She doesn't even know what shipping is.
My seventeen-year-old brother vaguely knows about this website. He doesn't know I'm on it. He does know what shipping is.
My sixteen-year-old brother knows about this website. He knows I'm on it. He knows about shipping, but doesn't care for it.

I don't know why, but I imagined your siblings younger than that. Probably because most of mine are. Sometimes I wish I were the only one on here . . . but others it's cool that they share my interests. I just hate it when they talk about the forums IRL (as particularly the twelve-year-old is wont to do). It just . . . doesn't belong off the internet. Whenever anyone mentions something I said on the forums (12-year-old doesn't usually because we don't intersect much, but cycoris does) I CRINGE.


You're only in Y11! (Right? At best you could only be in your first year of college, so you should only be doing AS Math at best.) What're you doing matrices and thingies for?!
I don't even know what they are!
And I don't think I ever did.

I did them in tenth grade. That would be age 15. And it sucked but I'm glad I got through it then. :smalltongue:


I doubt you're missing much. Honestly. However, maybe an opinion from a girl who's actually
1) Been asked out and
2) Therefore been in a relationship
3) And been on dates
would be best.

I'm guessing so. Note that as of this very moment I can think of maaaaaaaaybe two guys to whom I would say yes if they asked me out. For numerous untold reasons.

Castaras
2010-01-07, 02:11 PM
You're only in Y11! (Right? At best you could only be in your first year of college, so you should only be doing AS Math at best.) What're you doing matrices and thingies for?!
I don't even know what they are!
And I don't think I ever did.

Year 12.

Further Maths.

Further Pure 1 module.

HARD. Except complex numbers. They're easy at the moment. :smallbiggrin:

Don't know what Matrices are? They're like grids of numbers that mean things. And we then have to do wonderful things like multiplication.

[ 3 4 ]........[ 5 ]
[ 7 1 ]........[ 2 ]

becomes

[ 23 ]
[ 37 ]

Stuff like that. It's annoying.



Also: hey Cassie! Haven't seen you in ages. How's things?


Hectic. 3 exams next week, plus 1 jab. :smalleek: But otherwise good. How've you been? :D

Dragonrider
2010-01-07, 02:13 PM
Hey! We've got Curly-DeeRee-Cassie all posting in a row! :smallbiggrin: *happiness*

Castaras
2010-01-07, 02:19 PM
\o/

:smallbiggrin:

Man, it's been ages since I've been properly posting... Now I just need to go get an avatar again. *scuttle*

Dogmantra
2010-01-07, 02:37 PM
Further Maths.

High five! Despite the fact I don't actually start until next year, let's form a club of some sort!

+ They apologised for the mess with today's school cancellation
+ School is optional for day pupils tomorrow
- They're going to post work online
+ I can't access this work, or at least where it's going to be
- If I don't do the work, I suspect bad things will happen
- That means really I should have put unable to access as a minus.

CurlyKitGirl
2010-01-07, 02:56 PM
Yeah, that's pretty much what I did. It seemed to clear the problem up. It happens in my first piercings a lot (I got them when I was thirteen and didn't take as good care of them in the first six months - I think they're still mad at me or something) but the second set have never had a problem until the left one decided to jump on the bandwagon yesterday. But they don't hurt anymore so I think I'm okay. I'll keep washing them every night for the next couple days and see how it goes.

Ah, the cranky piercing. My bottom left ear piercing is like that, all the others are fine. My most happy-go-lucky piercings are my middle pair, oddly, those are the ones I did at home with absolutely no health and safety rules followed whatsoever.
The bottom and top sets were done in Claire's Accesories, and they're rarely cranky.
Two days with the salt water should be fine, but do it again after bathing if you wash your piercings in the morning.


I don't know why, but I imagined your siblings younger than that. Probably because most of mine are. Sometimes I wish I were the only one on here . . . but others it's cool that they share my interests. I just hate it when they talk about the forums IRL (as particularly the twelve-year-old is wont to do). It just . . . doesn't belong off the internet. Whenever anyone mentions something I said on the forums (12-year-old doesn't usually because we don't intersect much, but cycoris does) I CRINGE.

*shrug*
We're a set of stairs. Eighteen (but virtually nineteen), seventeen, sixteen and fourteen. Secretly Mum's getting broody, she's got hoards of great-neices and -nephews and is pining for the baby clothes, the baby toys, the furniture; just general baby.
If you think siblings mentioning things you said on the forums is awkward, you remember that I mentioned I'm reading through OOTS with Littlest Brother? Ever tried explaining certain aspects of OOTS, D&D rules and so on to a little sibling when there are parents in the room? Eight-bit Theatre is more awkward though.
Really, try telling Littlest Brother why exactly the punchline of Belkar's mountain-of-hobgoblins comic is funny. And mentioning the words, "Well, Belkar just killed say eighty or ninety people, quite viciously etc. etc."


I did them in tenth grade. That would be age 15. And it sucked but I'm glad I got through it then. :smalltongue:

I was actually talking to Cassie, but hey, you're binkers too. Completely.


I'm guessing so. Note that as of this very moment I can think of maaaaaaaaybe two guys to whom I would say yes if they asked me out. For numerous untold reasons.

Then ask them out.


Year 12.

Yep, seventeen.


Further Maths.

Further Pure 1 module.

HARD. Except complex numbers. They're easy at the moment. :smallbiggrin:

Don't know what Matrices are? They're like grids of numbers that mean things. And we then have to do wonderful things like multiplication.

[ 3 4 ]........[ 5 ]
[ 7 1 ]........[ 2 ]

becomes

[ 23 ]
[ 37 ]

Stuff like that. It's annoying.

I was close. And just looking at that (and complex numbers) confuses me. I can see why it's annoying. Just looking at it annoys me. Well, it vexes me.


Hectic. 3 exams next week, plus 1 jab. :smalleek: But otherwise good. How've you been? :D

Ah, AS level January exams. They were so annoying. And if this cold snap lasts you'll be even colder in your exam hall than I was in mine last year.
From what I remember you're doing Physics as well yes? And probably also normal Math? And Computing/something computery.
Those exams are all about an hour or so yes? Good luck for those, and at least you don't have have to write pages and pages of essays in the bitter cold while your hands slowly mottle purple and blue.
Ouch. Is it the HPV jab? It's a little painful; try not to think about it. I won't tell you about my last needle exploit.

Me, despite going back to uni in exactly ten days I have only done ten lines of my Old English translation; my essay is so undone it's silly. I haven't even read the full Battle of Maldon in translation so I do't corrupt my translation with the MdnE version I have.
However, I'm doing Old English, and I just checked my uni email and got an email from my other tutor for the other class I'm doing. It's basically what I've done in my English Literature and English Language A Levels. I can't wait to go back, except for the cold.
The down side of having Paper 1 and Paper 3 being taught at the same time is that occasionally I've be having two tutorials a week. Or two classes a week. This is not a down side at all.

Castaras
2010-01-07, 03:04 PM
Yep, seventeen.


Sixteen :smallwink: Seventeen in March.



I was close. And just looking at that (and complex numbers) confuses me. I can see why it's annoying. Just looking at it annoys me. Well, it vexes me.


It's all the wrong way round! We do coordinates where you go Along the Corridor, up the stairs, then BAM! Matrices, we do things the other way round! Up the stairs then fly out the window! Bloody annoying.




Ah, AS level January exams. They were so annoying. And if this cold snap lasts you'll be even colder in your exam hall than I was in mine last year.
From what I remember you're doing Physics as well yes? And probably also normal Math? And Computing/something computery.
Those exams are all about an hour or so yes? Good luck for those, and at least you don't have have to write pages and pages of essays in the bitter cold while your hands slowly mottle purple and blue.

Physics, Maths, F Maths, Chemistry. Hour for sciences, hour-half for maths. Aye, not writing as much is a blessing...although we still have page long answers we have to write for some explanations. :smallsigh:



Ouch. Is it the HPV jab? It's a little painful; try not to think about it. I won't tell you about my last needle exploit.


Second round of cervical cancer jab. No idea if that's HPV or not. First one I didn't faint! ...I had a panic attack instead. But it meant I didn't faint! Hoping this time I can do better and even if I have a panic attack stay in school for after it.



Me, despite going back to uni in exactly ten days I have only done ten lines of my Old English translation; my essay is so undone it's silly. I haven't even read the full Battle of Maldon in translation so I do't corrupt my translation with the MdnE version I have.
However, I'm doing Old English, and I just checked my uni email and got an email from my other tutor for the other class I'm doing. It's basically what I've done in my English Literature and English Language A Levels. I can't wait to go back, except for the cold.
The down side of having Paper 1 and Paper 3 being taught at the same time is that occasionally I've be having two tutorials a week. Or two classes a week. This is not a down side at all.

x) Sounds fun. Could never do english for that long, although it does look more interesting than the ...stuff we did at GCSE that put me off English for life. Can't wait until Uni... Sounds so much fun! ^.^

Player_Zero
2010-01-07, 03:05 PM
I hate matrices.

So so much.

Especially transformation matrices.

Simultaneous equation matrices are fun. But transformations are AWFUL.

Every linear matrix is a transformation. It takes a coordinates system to a coordinates system. One which preserves the values of the metric on the vectorspace is called a motion within the geometry, perhaps that's what you mean. Those would be orthogonal matrices, isometries of Euclidean space.


Year 12.
Further Maths.
Further Pure 1 module.
HARD.

I got 100%. If you need any help I could probably show you how things work.


Zero, you make me sad. Are you still in Notts? The offer of a cup of tea with actual human contact is still open. I promise I'm lovely.

I promise I'm not. Would be far too awkward I'm afraid.

It's only term-time I'm by myself anyway. Which starts next week.

Pyrian
2010-01-07, 03:09 PM
I just hate it when they talk about the forums IRL (as particularly the twelve-year-old is wont to do). It just . . . doesn't belong off the internet. Whenever anyone mentions something I said on the forums (12-year-old doesn't usually because we don't intersect much, but cycoris does) I CRINGE.Heh! In contrast, my on-line and personal lives blend pretty seamlessly at times. Some of my close friends I met on-line. Some people whom I met in person I've become closer to on-line than I ever was in person. When I meet people I tend to exchange e-mail addresses in preference to phone numbers. (I also give out my LiveJournal a lot, but that's mostly because I put so many event photos on it.)

Castaras
2010-01-07, 03:09 PM
I got 100%. If you need any help I could probably show you how things work.


I'll probably take you up on that when my jan exams are over. Thanks! :smallsmile:

Dragonrider
2010-01-07, 03:23 PM
Ah, the cranky piercing. My bottom left ear piercing is like that, all the others are fine. My most happy-go-lucky piercings are my middle pair, oddly, those are the ones I did at home with absolutely no health and safety rules followed whatsoever.
The bottom and top sets were done in Claire's Accesories, and they're rarely cranky.

My dad pierced his own ears when he was seventeen using a button pin and his sister's pearl earrings. :smalltongue: Then his best friend's mum told him they looked stupid because he'd done them too high, so he took them out and repierced them in a more suitable location.

My dad's nuts. But entertaining. How many 18-year-old girls can say they have a soccer-playing guitarist dreadlocked ear-pierced father who has a respectable job? :smallbiggrin:


If you think siblings mentioning things you said on the forums is awkward, you remember that I mentioned I'm reading through OOTS with Littlest Brother? Ever tried explaining certain aspects of OOTS, D&D rules and so on to a little sibling when there are parents in the room? Eight-bit Theatre is more awkward though.

12-year-old brother does that, too. Sometimes he'll know something's supposed to be funny but he won't know why, so he'll quote it and then laugh and I'll go, "Do you know what that means?" and he'll say, "Uhhh..." and I'll say "Probably not something you should be repeating in public." :smalltongue:

Come to think of it, he's been doing that as long as I can remember. When middle brother was like five, oldest brother and his best friend used to listen to a lot of Weird Al Yankovic music, and "You Don't Love Me Anymore" was their favorite. In addition to the all-time "I don't know what this means but it can't be good" line (I know what it means now but at eleven I didn't), "I guess I lost a little bit of self-esteem / that time that you made it with the whole hockey team", there's a line immediately following that goes "You used to think I was nice / now you tell all your friends that I'm the Antichrist"

So he and I were friends with another pair of siblings whose father was a Fundamentalist Christian pastor, and one day we were at their house and (because he liked to sing) he started belting that couplet (thankfully not the one that ran before it!) and then said loudly, "Isn't that funny?"

Poor preteen me was blushing head to toe and I turned to my friend and said, "Sorry. He doesn't know what that means." And she gave me this look; to this day I don't know whether it was a you-guys-are-going-to-hell look or a umm-I-don't-know-either, but that day I was absolutely certain that they were going to hate us. (This was a family who wouldn't let their kids watch Harry Potter because it was "of the devil".)

Embarrassing siblings FTW? :smalltongue:


Me, despite going back to uni in exactly ten days I have only done ten lines of my Old English translation; my essay is so undone it's silly. I haven't even read the full Battle of Maldon in translation so I do't corrupt my translation with the MdnE version I have.
However, I'm doing Old English, and I just checked my uni email and got an email from my other tutor for the other class I'm doing. It's basically what I've done in my English Literature and English Language A Levels. I can't wait to go back, except for the cold.
The down side of having Paper 1 and Paper 3 being taught at the same time is that occasionally I've be having two tutorials a week. Or two classes a week. This is not a down side at all.

I've got . . . till Tuesday the 19th, though I go back the 18th. I'm getting new glasses Monday the 11th and I'm torn between being mega-excited (I've had these glasses since I was fifteen, I'm ready for a change!) and annoyed because while I sort of miss school, I like being lazily internet addicted more, and Monday will mean I have only one week left.


Heh! In contrast, my on-line and personal lives blend pretty seamlessly at times. Some of my close friends I met on-line. Some people whom I met in person I've become closer to on-line than I ever was in person. When I meet people I tend to exchange e-mail addresses in preference to phone numbers. (I also give out my LiveJournal a lot, but that's mostly because I put so many event photos on it.)

Maybe it's just that the Playground is the only place before I left for Whitman where I knew people who didn't also know my family. I like it that all my friends got along well with my parents. But when my siblings start going on and on about the Playground with my parents present, I feel like they're disclosing my private life (even though, posted on the internet as it is, it's anything but private), and it sort of is a sucky feeling.

Jibar
2010-01-07, 03:31 PM
I promise I'm not. Would be far too awkward I'm afraid.

It's only term-time I'm by myself anyway. Which starts next week.

You need to get your internet working or whatever it is that keeps you away. Sitting on Steam is what's kept me going without my friends.

Rutskarn
2010-01-07, 03:36 PM
Course, that's dangerous if it's your only social interaction for a while. Has to do with not seeing them/encountering them in "real" life--it'll only get you so far, apparently.

I actually read an interesting article that dealt with that, albeit in the last place you'd expect thoughtful reflections on society and social interactions. Typically, dong jokes are more Cracked's speed. It's worth a read, though.

http://www.cracked.com/article_15231_7-reasons-21st-century-making-you-miserable.html

Probably some stiff language.

CurlyKitGirl
2010-01-07, 03:39 PM
Sixteen :smallwink: Seventeen in March.

I was close.


It's all the wrong way round! We do coordinates where you go Along the Corridor, up the stairs, then BAM! Matrices, we do things the other way round! Up the stairs then fly out the window! Bloody annoying.

I could just about manage to go along the corridor and up the stairs. It was when we got to . . . quadratic graphs that I got lost. Oh, and working out arctans, cos and sine. Or whatever they are.
Frankly, I rejoiced after I finished my last Math GCSE exam.


Physics, Maths, F Maths, Chemistry. Hour for sciences, hour-half for maths. Aye, not writing as much is a blessing...although we still have page long answers we have to write for some explanations. :smallsigh:

Proofs are demonic; at uni my two best friends are Physics Man (he's also my husband (long story)) and Math Girl and they hate writing proofs. Pages and pages of proofs.
I'm guessing you'll be doing one of those two at uni; you'll just hate proofs more and more.
On the plus side, your exams are shorter than mine. I had six hours of exams in one day once. (The fact I was doing five subjects for two years may have added to that somewhat.) Another positive thing is that all your subjects interlink so at one point you'll end up a hundred miles in front of everyone else for a few weeks (or months (ugh!)) in another subject.


Second round of cervical cancer jab. No idea if that's HPV or not. First one I didn't faint! ...I had a panic attack instead. But it meant I didn't faint! Hoping this time I can do better and even if I have a panic attack stay in school for after it.

That's the HPV jab. Hurts like billy-o for a mite. And not fainting is good! I nearly fainted once, wasn't a nice experience at all.
However, when I had HPV jabs on a school day I got the day off simply because my doctor's surgery is some forty odd miles away from college (about ninety minutes by normal bus) and that would have meant wasting half a college day on buses.


x) Sounds fun. Could never do english for that long, although it does look more interesting than the ...stuff we did at GCSE that put me off English for life. Can't wait until Uni... Sounds so much fun! ^.^

That's a real shame! In AS/A2 and degree level English you can actually think and essentially write whatever you want. And the university thing, and please note different unis do it differently, gives you a block of time and you can study what you want from it.
Math and Physics is just computer labs, ordinary labs, problem sheets and proofs. Also lectures are pretty much Go Or Fall Behind. With English/humanities in general it's Go For Interesting Things To Put In Your Essay.

University is also more about social life than academics as well. Don't let anyone ever tell you anything else.

Trobby
2010-01-07, 03:42 PM
@Rustkarin: And this is why I have the steadily increasingly desperate urge to move out of this house and into my own place. D: I do not want to be a socially awkward shut-in forever. :smallfrown:

@Koorly: Yeah...I've found that to be absolutely true...<.<; Especially since I'm now trying to do it WITHOUT the social setting. Turns out, online degrees are good for cutting back on cost, bad for learning how to interact with peers. :/

Castaras
2010-01-07, 03:51 PM
I could just about manage to go along the corridor and up the stairs. It was when we got to . . . quadratic graphs that I got lost. Oh, and working out arctans, cos and sine. Or whatever they are.
Frankly, I rejoiced after I finished my last Math GCSE exam.


Same with me for english :smalltongue: No more detailed explanations making up stuff about nothing! Although I kinda miss what little creative writing we did.



Proofs are demonic; at uni my two best friends are Physics Man (he's also my husband (long story)) and Math Girl and they hate writing proofs. Pages and pages of proofs.
I'm guessing you'll be doing one of those two at uni; you'll just hate proofs more and more.
On the plus side, your exams are shorter than mine. I had six hours of exams in one day once. (The fact I was doing five subjects for two years may have added to that somewhat.) Another positive thing is that all your subjects interlink so at one point you'll end up a hundred miles in front of everyone else for a few weeks (or months (ugh!)) in another subject.

Yep, hoping to do maths. Not sure whether Oxford or Cambridge I'll be aiming for though. :smallsmile:

Proofs get worse? Oh dear. At least shorter exams and less essay writing... only 2 pieces of Coursework, from what I've gathered for AS and A2 ^.^




That's the HPV jab. Hurts like billy-o for a mite. And not fainting is good! I nearly fainted once, wasn't a nice experience at all.
However, when I had HPV jabs on a school day I got the day off simply because my doctor's surgery is some forty odd miles away from college (about ninety minutes by normal bus) and that would have meant wasting half a college day on buses.


Aye, the one in Dec didn't hurt when I had it done but killed for days after. I got the day off because I was in such a state I couldn't go back to lessons. :S




That's a real shame! In AS/A2 and degree level English you can actually think and essentially write whatever you want. And the university thing, and please note different unis do it differently, gives you a block of time and you can study what you want from it.
Math and Physics is just computer labs, ordinary labs, problem sheets and proofs. Also lectures are pretty much Go Or Fall Behind. With English/humanities in general it's Go For Interesting Things To Put In Your Essay.

Sounds like you had a better A level set than my mates who do English did. *grin* They're complaining about it being a lot like GCSE still with its overanalysis of things.

"Go for interesting things"? To me, pretty much all maths (even dreaded matrices) is interesting, therefore I should be fine. :smalltongue:



University is also more about social life than academics as well. Don't let anyone ever tell you anything else.

That would be why I'm looking forward to it. :smallbiggrin:

Dragonrider
2010-01-07, 03:52 PM
University is also more about social life than academics as well. Don't let anyone ever tell you anything else.

For sure. For freakin' sure. I have more friends now that I ever have at any one time in my life, and I haven't even been to a single party. :smalltongue: Or left my dorm for a social event. Or left my floor. [/rampant exaggeration]


http://www.cracked.com/article_15231_7-reasons-21st-century-making-you-miserable.html

Probably some stiff language.

Yeah, I'd read that before, and it has an interesting point but I think that, ironically enough, it is the same kind of outrage article it ultimately criticizes. It's much easier to say "you people are losers because you never interact off the internet" than to talk about it more moderately. I spend half my life talking to online friends and half with IRL/family.

Now, a year ago, the difference was much greater, because I had no IRL friends. It's much, much harder to get along with someone in real life than in text, when you have to deal with every little detail. You can't just skim and type up a brief note of sympathy. That's why I need physical breaks from my siblings and friends. The choice to not log on to GitP that day is so easy; you just come back on the next day and pretend it didn't happen. With your family (or friends whom you live with) it's not quite so simple.

BUT. Even this socially-starved internet introvert knows this, and ten years of homeschooling has raised my hackles to any mention of "WHAT ABOUT SOCIALIZATION?"

Jibar
2010-01-07, 03:56 PM
...apparently I'm doing University wrong.

I have what amounts to 3 threads at University, whom I spend little time with outside of lectures.

...well don't I feel pathetic. I'm gonna eat some pumas.

Castaras
2010-01-07, 04:04 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_15231_7-reasons-21st-century-making-you-miserable.html

A lot of that is pure bias/bile. Some of it is true though, yes. But most of it is stereotypes + a guy wanting to be as insulting and as much a bastard as he would be afraid to be off the 'net.

Socialising on the 'net benefited me IRL more than it made me worse a person to be with. It gave me confidence to be myself, and not some shadow. Which is important. :smallsmile:

Rutskarn
2010-01-07, 04:08 PM
I'm not getting bias, and I'm not getting bile. Obviously he's exaggerating, but it's a comedy article. He's making blanket statements and generalizations because it's funnier, and because it's a criticism of the most melodramatically washed-up internetters, but if you look past that it's got a lot of good advice.

The message to take away from that article is, putting up with real people once in a while is important to happiness, as is doing something that has a tangible result.

Lioness
2010-01-07, 04:12 PM
Sixteen :smallwink: Seventeen in March.


Are you my twin???

Except that, you know, I hate maths and dropped it for an extra English subject last year...

Castaras
2010-01-07, 04:17 PM
Are you my twin???

Except that, you know, I hate maths and dropped it for an extra English subject last year...

Oh dear, an almost twin? :smalltongue: My Giantitp family has just got bigger!

CurlyKitGirl
2010-01-07, 04:18 PM
Same with me for english :smalltongue: No more detailed explanations making up stuff about nothing! Although I kinda miss what little creative writing we did.

. . .

Essays are creative writing.
>.>
<.<



Yep, hoping to do maths. Not sure whether Oxford or Cambridge I'll be aiming for though. :smallsmile:

Proofs get worse? Oh dear. At least shorter exams and less essay writing... only 2 pieces of Coursework, from what I've gathered for AS and A2 ^.^

On the objective hand: Cambridge is better for Math.
On the subjective hand: Come to Oxford! Apply to Merton COllege! It's awesome. Why? I'm at Oxford! Merton College has been top of the Norrington Table almost every year for the past fix or six. And we have fortnightly (free) parties. And it's really pretty.
And stuff! Like great libraries, great resources and IT and Math departments.

Five pages worth of proofs for one week. And eight pages of problem sheets. And labs. Math Girl says it's hectic, but very fulfilling; she also goes Bellringing Society and one or two others, so you can squeeze in a lot of fun stuff around the work.
Oxbridge only ask for three As, so keep all four of them; however, if you really want to drop one, go for Chemistry. Beware though, you may have to take General Studies as an A Level if you drop an AS and don't pick up another.


Sounds like you had a better A level set than my mates who do English did. *grin* They're complaining about it being a lot like GCSE still with its overanalysis of things.

"Go for interesting things"? To me, pretty much all maths (even dreaded matrices) is interesting, therefore I should be fine. :smalltongue:

I'm . . . probably slightly more crazy and bibliomaniacal than a lot of your friends. And my A Level was amazing. Both ENglishes. And the History. And the Classics. ANd the French.
And I may be a little more well read (over the centuries) so I really did have moments of almost monumental glee when it came to The Duchess of Malfi.
They should get into it though, mainly because you can overanalyse things ridiculously and the way you want.


That would be why I'm looking forward to it. :smallbiggrin:

Join the Gilbert&Sullivan Society. Practically every university has one. You'll love it.
When you do get into Oxbridge check out your college's pub. Hardly ever drank anything, but had great fun.

Lioness
2010-01-07, 04:18 PM
Oh dear, an almost twin? :smalltongue: My Giantitp family has just got bigger!

What does that make it now?

Exeson
2010-01-07, 04:21 PM
Anyone got any tips for the cripplingly socially-challenged? I start uni again next week and have to develop some sort of acquaintances now my girlfriend is moving away.

I had two friends in my first year, one graduated and moved away, the other got kicked out and moved away. Back to square one, except by now everyone has developped their own friendships, and I feel like a complete tool trying to slot myself into them.

Second year was made good by getting a girlfriend, and managed to make 1 friend. She promptly dropped out and moved away, but that was ok because I had the missus.

Now she is moving away, and I am about to start m second semester (redo-ing my second year), and I can't even talk to people in my lectures because I'm too afraid of cocking up and having to live with the humiliation for the next year and a half (flashback to years 8-13).
(Spoilered because it turned into a colossal whineathon that will only make you angry if you read it.)

On a completely unrelated note: I have Belgian chocolate ice cream, with Belgian chocolate sauce and chunks of Belgian chocolate. All of which was made in Leicestershire.

Don't be scared about it, just talk to some people. If you balls up just laugh ti off and move on. You won't gain many friends by doing nothing.

Failing that go and pick up an interactive activity or sport. Something that requires you to talk to people and interact with them. You may not feel comfortable at first but you will learn.

Quincunx
2010-01-07, 04:22 PM
[EDIT: As I was typing to Castaras/Rutskarn, before a whole heap o' ninjaposting. . .]

Seconded. There is no bile. There may be bias. There is a tone which is unpolished but not hateful unless you add the hate in yourself--that's the very point of point #4 and one I am grateful someone articulated (the phrase 'locked in your own head' was not working). This is the tone of conversation between friends comfy enough with one another to mock and know the limits of mocking one another. Any feeling of inadequacy that can be wrung out of an article that makes the point twice, in the first two points, that the goodness of society is built out of inadequate 'perfect understanding' of one another, is a feeling of inadequacy of the reader, by the reader, and for the reader.

And gods know no matter how much of #5 ya do, all those good works don't matter if the recipient can just pull down the ignore button, or click away from this link, or whatever.

@V: They maintain some bizarre belief that Gilbert and Sullivan products are amusing. Myself, I'd show up with the translations of Aristophanes set to their tunes, try to ingratiate myself into the chorus thence to sing out 2500-year-old rude lyrics instead of 100-year-old stale ones, but be caught out by my utter lack of pitch.

Coidzor
2010-01-07, 04:22 PM
Indeed? Why do you all have Gilbert and Sullivan Societies?

Some sort of entity go around encouraging that sort of thing? Or were they just that popular in Britland that uni students across the queendom decided to form them more or less simultaneously, thinking they were doing something novel?

Ikialev
2010-01-07, 04:23 PM
My doctor wants to heal my acne with isotretinoin. Gods.
I mean, how could she even think about it. ~~

Castaras
2010-01-07, 04:27 PM
. . .

Essays are creative writing.
>.>
<.<


shhh.




On the objective hand: Cambridge is better for Math.
On the subjective hand: Come to Oxford! Apply to Merton COllege! It's awesome. Why? I'm at Oxford! Merton College has been top of the Norrington Table almost every year for the past fix or six. And we have fortnightly (free) parties. And it's really pretty.
And stuff! Like great libraries, great resources and IT and Math departments.


Cambridge is better for Maths.

But Oxford is further away from Home.



Five pages worth of proofs for one week. And eight pages of problem sheets. And labs. Math Girl says it's hectic, but very fulfilling; she also goes Bellringing Society and one or two others, so you can squeeze in a lot of fun stuff around the work.
Oxbridge only ask for three As, so keep all four of them; however, if you really want to drop one, go for Chemistry. Beware though, you may have to take General Studies as an A Level if you drop an AS and don't pick up another.

You mean I have to keep up Physics for 2 years? Bugger. Oh well.



I'm . . . probably slightly more crazy and bibliomaniacal than a lot of your friends. And my A Level was amazing. Both ENglishes. And the History. And the Classics. ANd the French.
And I may be a little more well read (over the centuries) so I really did have moments of almost monumental glee when it came to The Duchess of Malfi.
They should get into it though, mainly because you can overanalyse things ridiculously and the way you want.

Aha. I see. :smallsmile:



Join the Gilbert&Sullivan Society. Practically every university has one. You'll love it.
When you do get into Oxbridge check out your college's pub. Hardly ever drank anything, but had great fun.
Teetotaller by choice for now, but will be fun indeed. I'll keep the Gilbert&Sullivan society in mind. :)


What does that make it now?

Almost triplets with Curly and DeeRee, Daughter of Lensman biologically, Daughter of Twobitwriter through DeeRee and Curly (I think), Sister of Cycoris through DeeRee and Curly (I think, again), Sister of Bushranger, Sister of Pocketa, Moon_Called, and Nexus through Bushranger, Brother of Valdus_Fire biologically, Sister of Bor through Moon_Called, I think, Sister of DD through Bor, iirc, umm....

I'll have to dig out the family tree.

@Quin and Rutskarn - *shrugs* Just how I percieve it, indeed. Maybe I am the person they're warning against, despite my efforts. But I'm proud to be it, unlike how he percieves it. As Aspergers also, I'm not the person he describes the human race to be - I am not automatically a social animal. So maybe to me it applies differently.

Exeson
2010-01-07, 04:30 PM
You mean I have to keep up Physics for 2 years? Bugger. Oh well.

My friend got an offer a few days ago to go to Trinity for maths. He is doing Maths, Physics and Chemistry A level. So you don't need to do 4 A Levels to get an offer, although warn you Cambridge might start giving A* offers soon, or at least that is what we were warned last September.

Lioness
2010-01-07, 04:32 PM
My doctor wants to heal my acne with isotretinoin. Gods.
I mean, how could she even think about it. ~~

My dad makes me take tablets for mine...I forget what.

But I don't want it. They're not abnormally obtuse or anything. He's just sensitive.

Edit: I have nice year 12 subjects...English, Music, Japanese, Psychology, and Chem. I'm only doing the latter because I feel I owe it to at least continue it, because I find it fun, even though it's hard.

Pyrian
2010-01-07, 04:32 PM
It strikes me that, if modern times aren't making me miserable, then I'm clearly not the subject of the article.

The subject of the article is poorly adapted to modern times. Change and old dogs, y'know.

Player_Zero
2010-01-07, 04:35 PM
I'll probably take you up on that when my jan exams are over. Thanks! :smallsmile:

You'd better hurry that up. I'm leaving in thre days and won't be back for three months apart from when I connect in the university library.

Quincunx
2010-01-07, 04:36 PM
[EDIT: Of all the possible contradictions to ninja-post this remark. . .]

I submit that your 'having a life' means you're not the subject of the article. :smallbiggrin:

Castaras
2010-01-07, 04:40 PM
My friend got an offer a few days ago to go to Trinity for maths. He is doing Maths, Physics and Chemistry A level. So you don't need to do 4 A Levels to get an offer, although warn you Cambridge might start giving A* offers soon, or at least that is what we were warned last September.

Yeah, I'd heard about A* offers. :x Can only hope, heh.

That's good. I don't like Physics. It's too much real life physicalities (is that even a word? It is now. =|) and not enough abstract numbers for my liking. While Chemistry is all about little atoms whizzing about which is fun.

@^ Then I'm excluded as well. Huzzah. :smalltongue:

Exeson
2010-01-07, 04:42 PM
Yeah, I'd heard about A* offers. :x Can only hope, heh.

Although it has been pointed out that IIRC over 90% of people who have applied to Cambridge in the last few years would have got A*s anyway.

@Lioness: I wish I could have done Psychology A level. :smallfrown:

DraPrime
2010-01-07, 04:44 PM
Yeah, I'd heard about A* offers. :x Can only hope, heh.

That's good. I don't like Physics. It's too much real life physicalities (is that even a word? It is now. =|) and not enough abstract numbers for my liking. While Chemistry is all about little atoms whizzing about which is fun.

@^ Then I'm excluded as well. Huzzah. :smalltongue:

Physics can also be largely about little atoms whizzing about. This is called quantum physics. Also, the words you're looking for are probably "real life factors/variables/situations." Something like that.

Lioness
2010-01-07, 04:45 PM
@Lioness: I wish I could have done Psychology A level. :smallfrown:

Only some of the schools have it. We have it at year 11 and 12. I did the year 11 stuff in year 10, and got a better grade than most of the yaer 11s in the class. Things are looking good for year 12, though I've heard it's harder.

I just hope I don't get given an essay 'Psychology is not just common sense. Discuss'
Because for me it is. Last year's class got that, so we'll see...

Exeson
2010-01-07, 04:48 PM
Only some of the schools have it. We have it at year 11 and 12. I did the year 11 stuff in year 10, and got a better grade than most of the yaer 11s in the class. Things are looking good for year 12, though I've heard it's harder.

I just hope I don't get given an essay 'Psychology is not just common sense. Discuss'
Because for me it is. Last year's class got that, so we'll see...

Nice. Yeah, my school does not offer it because they, in their ignorant stupid way, believe it to be a lesser subject. However, I have applied for Psychology at Uni, Just waiting for a reply from Bath.... :smallsmile:

Lioness
2010-01-07, 04:51 PM
Nice. Yeah, my school does not offer it because they, in their ignorant stupid way, believe it to be a lesser subject. However, I have applied for Psychology at Uni, Just waiting for a reply from Bath.... :smallsmile:

I don't know what our school thinks of it, but we've got three teachers who are capable of teaching it, so it goes ahead.
Our text book spends an entire page telling us that psychology is a science, but I don't believe it. It is not a straight out science just because it uses an empirical research method. It is a social science.

CurlyKitGirl
2010-01-07, 04:52 PM
Cambridge is better for Maths.

But Oxford is further away from Home.

Cambridge it is then. Little Sister wanted to do Music at Cambridge, only for Dad to say, "You'll apply to do Music at Oxford and like it! I'm not driving eleven plus hours to Cambridge when it's only seven hours to Oxford."
Little Sister pouted. So when she's a second year college student she's applying to Oxford for Music. Or Music and Math if they have it.
I'm so ashamed of her. She likes Math. She wanted Cambridge. Tch! I'm actually chuffed to bits over all my sister's achievements, but if any of you tell her I'll never be able to petrify her ever again.


You mean I have to keep up Physics for 2 years? Bugger. Oh well.

. . .

Aha. I see. :smallsmile:

Not really. It tends to depend on the offer, and generally a lot of Math students'll have taken Physics to A Level as well.
However it's your choice, and the two Math A Levels'll work fine. I do prefer Chemistry myself to Physics.
I say don't drop anything. Heck, you could even pick up an AS Level. Either way you'll avoid the annoying dull evil that is General Studies. Best part? Hardly any university actually accept it as an actual A Level.

As far as the 'aha' goes I could go into crazy depths about how much I love ENglish and why. But it'll be the same for you, you'll fall in love with certain aspects of it and will talk about it forever and ever.


Teetotaller by choice for now, but will be fun indeed. I'll keep the Gilbert&Sullivan society in mind. :)

All pubs offer the usual juices and fizzy pops. And you can get alcohol free cocktails, they are delicious. There's this wonderful cocktail bar called Duke of Cambridge up in Oxford, they have half price cocktails for two or three hours every night. They are delicious. (Note: I've only ever had two alcohol free ones)
If you do go to a pub, buy a glass of lemonade, they won't care what's in it as long as it looks like you're drinking something alcoholic.


Almost triplets with Curly and DeeRee, Daughter of Lensman biologically, Daughter of Twobitwriter through DeeRee and Curly (I think), Sister of Cycoris through DeeRee and Curly (I think, again), Sister of Bushranger, Sister of Pocketa, Moon_Called, and Nexus through Bushranger, Brother of Valdus_Fire biologically, Sister of Bor through Moon_Called, I think, Sister of DD through Bor, iirc, umm....

I'll have to dig out the family tree.

Yep, that's about it. I officially adopted Cyssy as a little sister a few days ago.

Quincunx
2010-01-07, 04:59 PM
Lioness: Psychology is the social science of a society of one, if I may make a quip?

Ah well. Forward the psychology studies, everyone, and don't take any guff about psychology being a soft science degree with no demand in the real world. When a hard science degree solves a problem, it stays solved and the hard scientist's contract ends, but psychology leads to careers in fixing people and there will always be a demand for folks who can repair people.

Ikialev
2010-01-07, 05:00 PM
My dad makes me take tablets for mine...I forget what.
But I don't want it. They're not abnormally obtuse or anything. He's just sensitive.
Yeah, I know. Sometimes I wonder if my parents care more about it than me. :3
however i think that suicide-inducing tablets are overkill

Lioness
2010-01-07, 05:02 PM
Yeah, I know. Sometimes I wonder if my parents care more about it than me. :3
however i think that suicide-inducing tablets are overkill

My dad does care about it more than I do. Apparently it's inhibiting my social life.
Err..wonderful boyfriend, steady job, many friends?
I don't think so.

Castaras
2010-01-07, 05:03 PM
Cambridge it is then. Little Sister wanted to do Music at Cambridge, only for Dad to say, "You'll apply to do Music at Oxford and like it! I'm not driving eleven plus hours to Cambridge when it's only seven hours to Oxford."
Little Sister pouted. So when she's a second year college student she's applying to Oxford for Music. Or Music and Math if they have it.
I'm so ashamed of her. She likes Math. She wanted Cambridge. Tch! I'm actually chuffed to bits over all my sister's achievements, but if any of you tell her I'll never be able to petrify her ever again.


Heheh, you got the wrong end I think. :smalltongue: I want to go to Oxford more than Cambridge distance wise because I'm further away from home. Cambridge is about half an hour from my family, which would mean that staying there in a little room is less economical than just rooming with my family...something I don't want to be an option, if I can help it. Oxford is further, meaning a new fresh start in a place I've never been. :smallwink:



Not really. It tends to depend on the offer, and generally a lot of Math students'll have taken Physics to A Level as well.
However it's your choice, and the two Math A Levels'll work fine. I do prefer Chemistry myself to Physics.
I say don't drop anything. Heck, you could even pick up an AS Level. Either way you'll avoid the annoying dull evil that is General Studies. Best part? Hardly any university actually accept it as an actual A Level.

Yeah, I've been considering not dropping anything/dropping physics and then picking up Music AS, if it can be timetabled. Was really disappointed I couldn't take music instead of chemistry...although now I know that Chemistry is awesome, so that's fine.


As far as the 'aha' goes I could go into crazy depths about how much I love ENglish and why. But it'll be the same for you, you'll fall in love with certain aspects of it and will talk about it forever and ever.


<3 algebra. All those little letters that mean things, the indices, the quadratics and the cubics and the big polynomials... my cup of tea. :smallbiggrin:



All pubs offer the usual juices and fizzy pops. And you can get alcohol free cocktails, they are delicious. There's this wonderful cocktail bar called Duke of Cambridge up in Oxford, they have half price cocktails for two or three hours every night. They are delicious. (Note: I've only ever had two alcohol free ones)
If you do go to a pub, buy a glass of lemonade, they won't care what's in it as long as it looks like you're drinking something alcoholic.


*notes down another piece of good and healthy advice*



Yep, that's about it. I officially adopted Cyssy as a little sister a few days ago.

Aha, thought there was one I missed through you. :smallbiggrin:

I have a feeling there's more through Dallas and Moon_Called... but eh. I'll leave it there for now and just say "And lots more distant relatives". :smallcool:

Exeson
2010-01-07, 05:05 PM
I don't know what our school thinks of it, but we've got three teachers who are capable of teaching it, so it goes ahead.
Our text book spends an entire page telling us that psychology is a science, but I don't believe it. It is not a straight out science just because it uses an empirical research method. It is a social science.

It is a social science due to the fact that the results of experiments are very difficult to tabulate, but it requires a scientific approach. I'm a scientist by nature, (Studying Biology, Maths and Chemistry at A-level) but really don't like playing with numbers (although it is a necessary evil that I can do) so it suits me just fine. :smallsmile:

Dragonrider
2010-01-07, 05:08 PM
I just spent the last twenty minutes on the socialization question (evolved from Rusty Carnage's link) and wrote an epic rant about it. :smallsigh: RB has, of course, moved beyond me.

Lioness
2010-01-07, 05:09 PM
It is a social science due to the fact that the results of experiments are very difficult to tabulate, but it requires a scientific approach. I'm a scientist by nature, (Studying Biology, Maths and Chemistry at A-level) but really don't like playing with numbers (although it is a necessary evil that I can do) so it suits me just fine. :smallsmile:

I just like analysing people, and I do it without even thinking. So putting that into psychology is really easy. Working out why people do things, instead of just knowing that they do. It's fun

Pyrian
2010-01-07, 05:13 PM
RB has, of course, moved beyond me.Only in the past hour (or couple of pages, heheh), so feel free to post it. This isn't IM. :smallsmile:

Dragonrider
2010-01-07, 05:16 PM
Only in the past hour (or couple of pages, heheh), so feel free to post it. This isn't IM. :smallsmile:

When I say epic, I mean epic.

...I blogged it. :smalltongue:

Lioness
2010-01-07, 05:23 PM
Only in the past hour (or couple of pages, heheh), so feel free to post it. This isn't IM. :smallsmile:

I resurrect stuff from a couple of pages ago all the time

Doesn't usually stay very long, but it's there at least

Dragonrider
2010-01-07, 05:24 PM
I resurrect stuff from a couple of pages ago all the time

Doesn't usually stay very long, but it's there at least

Yeah, me too :smallbiggrin:

But I'm lazy and I like complain, so

WHY IS THE WEATHER SO COLD?

...oh, yeah. Winter. That old thing.

CurlyKitGirl
2010-01-07, 05:27 PM
Heheh, you got the wrong end I think. :smalltongue: I want to go to Oxford more than Cambridge distance wise because I'm further away from home. Cambridge is about half an hour from my family, which would mean that staying there in a little room is less economical than just rooming with my family...something I don't want to be an option, if I can help it. Oxford is further, meaning a new fresh start in a place I've never been. :smallwink:

:smallbiggrin:
Cassie's coming to Oxford!
It's fantastic, and you can live in college accomodation for all three years, and the rooms are huge. Or at least mine is, but even the small ones aren't tiny. Food's great too. (Again, this is generalisation as naturally, I've only experienced Merton.)


Yeah, I've been considering not dropping anything/dropping physics and then picking up Music AS, if it can be timetabled. Was really disappointed I couldn't take music instead of chemistry...although now I know that Chemistry is awesome, so that's fine.

Sixth form?
They suck. I went to a college. A proper one, as in not attached to a secondary. I chose five and the college worked to make sure I got all of them. I had some wacky days where I had three hours between lectures for my last year, but I got all of them.
I'd strongly advocate picking up an AS Level; at the worst you'd only have to drop it. At best you could get an A*. What's to lose?


<3 algebra. All those little letters that mean things, the indices, the quadratics and the cubics and the big polynomials... my cup of tea. :smallbiggrin:

Indeed. *is dazed*
*mutters to self about authors, books, themes and things*



*notes down another piece of good and healthy advice*

And cheap advice too. I spent two hundred pounds in eight weeks on groceries. I'd have spent less, but I bought a lifetime membership to a G&S Society, went out to restaurants and pubs with people and bought a book.
I can scrimp money like you wouldn't believe. Go to Lidls or Tescos or Sainsburys and always buy own brand food or the cheapest option. Always.


Aha, thought there was one I missed through you. :smallbiggrin:

I have a feeling there's more through Dallas and Moon_Called... but eh. I'll leave it there for now and just say "And lots more distant relatives". :smallcool:

(For the record Cyssy is my nickname for Cycoris. I do however, think we're related to Trog through DD.

Lioness
2010-01-07, 05:28 PM
Yeah, me too :smallbiggrin:

But I'm lazy and I like complain, so

WHY IS THE WEATHER SO COLD?

...oh, yeah. Winter. That old thing.

*sends DeeRee some heat*

We have plenty

Kobold-Bard
2010-01-07, 05:28 PM
...WHY IS THE WEATHER SO COLD?...

Because Hades was a creepy weirdo who kidnapped the children of the other Gods because Aphrodite kept turning him down.

Or something to that effect.

Trobby
2010-01-07, 05:34 PM
Yeah, me too :smallbiggrin:

But I'm lazy and I like complain, so

WHY IS THE WEATHER SO COLD?

...oh, yeah. Winter. That old thing.

Winter has been pretty weird to me this year, actually...it started with a long, long Indian Summer, with no cold and no snow in sight until just a week before Christmas, where we had two snowfalls just tall enough to cover the ground...while in Virginia and Maryland they had record snowfalls of 2+ ft.

We had a good old fashioned cold front for about a week and a half, but now it's back up to above freezing at midday, and it feels like winter's already on the way out.

Dallas-Dakota
2010-01-07, 05:36 PM
I have a feeling there's more through Dallas and Moon_Called... but eh. I'll leave it there for now and just say "And lots more distant relatives". :smallcool:
I'm like that Best Friend who keeps hanging around the house and thus also bevriended Koorly's siblings.:smallcool:

Then again, I'm also like that with Twobit, Banjo, Cristo and Mordokai.:smalltongue:

Kaelaroth
2010-01-07, 05:39 PM
Yeah, me too :smallbiggrin:

But I'm lazy and I like complain, so

WHY IS THE WEATHER SO COLD?

...oh, yeah. Winter. That old thing.

Old Man Winter's a tricksy thing for sure.
Not sure what he has against other old people; he kills 'em in droves! :smalleek:

Player_Zero
2010-01-07, 05:39 PM
Tomorrow is supposed to drop to -20 in some places here.

CurlyKitGirl
2010-01-07, 05:43 PM
Tomorrow is supposed to drop to -20 in some places here.

*cries*
It actually snowed more time in the last two days than it has for me in the last seven years.

Kneenibble
2010-01-07, 05:44 PM
Meanwhile, here it's going above -20 tomorrow for the first time in a week!
*cackles hoarse with dry winter air*

Coidzor
2010-01-07, 05:46 PM
Yeah, me too :smallbiggrin:

But I'm lazy and I like complain, so

WHY IS THE WEATHER SO COLD?

...oh, yeah. Winter. That old thing.

Cold? It hasn't even snowed yet and is about in the 40s in this state as compared to like, Mississippi where it's gotten snow like, twice so far this winter?

Player_Zero
2010-01-07, 05:47 PM
Meanwhile, here it's going above -20 tomorrow for the first time in a week!
*cackles hoarse with dry winter air*

Just so we're clear, Celsius.

Coidzor
2010-01-07, 05:48 PM
Just so we're clear, Celsius.

Doesn't Canadia use the same system though?

Kaelaroth
2010-01-07, 05:48 PM
Meanwhile, here it's going above -20 tomorrow for the first time in a week!
*cackles hoarse with dry winter air*

You live in Canad(i)a. That's normality, no?
And people wonder why Britain so was all right with your state splintering so simply away from the Empire's strict control... :smalltongue:

Alas, they didn't know of the natural resources.

Kneenibble
2010-01-07, 05:49 PM
@^ In these parts of Canadary it's normal yeah. Heh, I can imagine an Izzard bit about that. "Well it's a bit chilly..."


Just so we're clear, Celsius.

Yes Canada is a Celsius country, my pretty hermit.

Phaedra
2010-01-07, 05:50 PM
Tomorrow is supposed to drop to -20 in some places here.

Yeah, I heard that too. I really hope my heating gets fixed soon, I haven't felt warm for a week. My love for snow has well and truly died.

Dragonrider
2010-01-07, 05:55 PM
Cold? It hasn't even snowed yet and is about in the 40s in this state as compared to like, Mississippi where it's gotten snow like, twice so far this winter?

You're on the West Side, dude. The West Side (meaning Western Oregon and Washington) is like a different country than Eastern OR/WA. The West Side's weather is fairly comparable to parts of Great Britain - drizzle drizzle. The east is mega-dry (my feet have incurable cracks in them year round), super hot in the summer (in the 100s fahrenheit), and while it's hardly blizzardland, it's steady gloom and cold in the winter. It's in the upper twenties here.

Also while the West Side is sophisticated and metropolitan (generally speaking), this (the east) is COWBOY COUNTRY.


Edit: and while we don't have snow right now, I think it's snowed at least three times (four inches twice) this winter.

Player_Zero
2010-01-07, 05:58 PM
Well at least it's better than too-hot-to-sleep weather. And I got a scarf for Christmas so I'm set.

Also, I am not pretty nor your hobbit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS74PXIYX3w), er hermit.

Jibar
2010-01-07, 06:00 PM
this (the east) is COWBOY COUNTRY.

Yippie kiy aye etcetera.

Trobby
2010-01-07, 06:01 PM
You're on the West Side, dude.

...When you're a Jet, you're a Jet all the way...

Kneenibble
2010-01-07, 06:08 PM
Also, I am not pretty nor your hobbit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS74PXIYX3w), er hermit.

Well I'm sorry, but where I come from, when you brush a dude's foot hair, you can call him yours. Otherwise it's just cheap, y'know?

Zocelot
2010-01-07, 06:14 PM
Doesn't Canadia use the same system though?

Every single country in the world, but the US and a couple of countries who trade almost exclusively with the US use metric, and I think that Celsius is part of metric.

Metric is pretty much better in every way than Imperial, but changing is too much work. Sort of like QWERTY vs. DVORAK.

On that note, anyone here using DVORAK?

Kaelaroth
2010-01-07, 06:16 PM
Well I'm sorry, but where I come from, when you brush a dude's foot hair, you can call him yours. Otherwise it's just cheap, y'know?

Oh, please. That'd mean I'm practically a lothario, rather than the sacrificial virgin. Y'know, the one of the bed of cattle and wilting roses.

Dragonrider
2010-01-07, 06:17 PM
...When you're a Jet, you're a Jet all the way...

I don't know what that means, but I'll pretend I do and laugh ironically like I get it. :smalltongue:

Kaelaroth
2010-01-07, 06:18 PM
I don't know what that means, but I'll pretend I do and laugh ironically like I get it. :smalltongue:

West Side Story. They're one of the gangs.

Dragonrider
2010-01-07, 06:19 PM
Every single country in the world, but the US and a couple of countries who trade almost exclusively with the US use metric, and I think that Celsius is part of metric.

Metric is pretty much better in every way than Imperial, but changing is too much work. Sort of like QWERTY vs. DVORAK.

On that note, anyone here using DVORAK?

I did for four months (I wrote a whole novel using it!) but at the end of that time, I was still at about 75 wpm for Dvorak and 105 for Qwerty, so what with school starting and a need to use more ordinary computers, I decided to switch back.

I don't think it would be that much effort to try Dvorak again - sometimes my keyboard flips out and accidentally switches, and my fingers still remember the Dvorak patterns - but it just doesn't seem as efficient.



Edit:@Kael: Oh, I see. Every longtime resident of Oregon or Washington knows "The West Side", so I didn't even think about it. :smalltongue: