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Serenity
2010-01-01, 02:24 PM
Do Warlock's get iterative attacks with their Eldritch Blasts? I can't seem to find confirmation one way or another in Complete Arcane.

jokey665
2010-01-01, 02:28 PM
Nope, it's a spell-like ability and, as such, using it is a standard action and not an attack action.

Darrin
2010-01-01, 02:55 PM
Nope, it's a spell-like ability and, as such, using it is a standard action and not an attack action.

Eldritch Glaive is actually a full-round action rather than a standard action. In most cases, it would be treated as if casting a spell as full-round action.

Note: make sure you max out Concentration so you can cast defensively, otherwise anyone in melee range gets an AoO.

As far as iterative attacks go, the text isn't entirely clear... it says if your BAB is +6 or higher, "you can make as many attacks with your eldritch glaive as your base attack bonus allows." It's not clear if these attacks interact with other feats/abilities as if they were iterative attacks, or as a full-round spell that allows multiple attack rolls but otherwise does not count as an attack and/or full-round attack action.

Another quirk that might be worth investigating... a warlock on a mount could get the equivalent of a full-round attack even when the mount is moving its full speed or charging.

jokey665
2010-01-01, 03:13 PM
Eldritch Glaive

Eldritch Glaive != Eldritch Blast

Note which one was mentioned in the first post...

taltamir
2010-01-01, 04:06 PM
what is eldritch glaive? I don't see it in the warlock list on complete arcana

Thrice Dead Cat
2010-01-01, 04:17 PM
what is eldritch glaive? I don't see it in the warlock list on complete arcana

It's a blast shape from Dragon Magic, which allows for melee full-attacks with the EB.

taltamir
2010-01-01, 07:41 PM
thanks for the clarification.
wouldn't stepping into melee be, a rather bad idea?

tyckspoon
2010-01-01, 07:51 PM
thanks for the clarification.
wouldn't stepping into melee be, a rather bad idea?

About as bad an idea as a Rogue positioning for a Sneak Attack. Which is to say, it's not a particularly good idea from a survivability standpoint, but if you want to do your damage you have to take the precautions you can and accept the risk.

ex cathedra
2010-01-01, 08:17 PM
Considering that Warlocks have armor, quite a few decent buffs, and no attribute dependency whatsoever, it's rather easy to build a competent melee warlock. Combine that with Eldritch Glaive's ability to grant you full attacks with reach with decent damage (on touch attacks, no less), and Glaivelocks are a popular choice.

Sstoopidtallkid
2010-01-01, 09:15 PM
Eldrich Glaive-locks are generally DAD, with only Dex and Con to worry about. Some need Cha, but that's more of an option than an actual need. So they get very survivable. And when you go Hellfire, dealing 12d6 per hit, and you can have it Empowered or Quickened, it's not so much "Getting into melee" as it is "Shaking hands with ground beef". Plus, it is a finessable reach weapon.

AirGuitarGod32
2010-01-02, 02:20 AM
plus it can be combined with Dungeon Crasher and Hellfire Blast.

taltamir
2010-01-02, 04:29 AM
are there some "must have" abilities for a warlock in other books I should know about?

what does practiced spellcaster do for a multiclass warlock.

Is there a feat to improve the level of your warlock's blast if you are multiclassing it?

Tokiko Mima
2010-01-02, 11:25 AM
thanks for the clarification.
wouldn't stepping into melee be, a rather bad idea?

Keep in mind that it's a reach melee attack, so you're going to be 5' away from your target. Not a complete defense, of course, but with a class that has 24 hour flight and at will invisibility as part of it's package, you can be very inventive with how you attack. For example, hovering from above and striking down limits your melee risk.


are there some "must have" abilities for a warlock in other books I should know about?

There are some very nice magic items for Warlocks in Complete Mage (Rod of Magical Precision,) and some of the invocations there are good as options, especially if you have the floating feat from the Chameleon PrC (Races of Destiny) to use on Extra Invocation.

There are some really terrible Warlock invocations in Magic of the Incarnum.


what does practiced spellcaster do for a multiclass warlock.

Boosts their caster level on invocations and spell resistance rolls. You do not get more damage from your blast, or any extra invocations.