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AustontheGreat1
2010-01-08, 10:51 AM
On of my favorite classes for a sorcerer is sand shaper, mainly due to the desert insight ability which adds a whole bunch of spells known to a sorcerers list of spells. what are your favorite classes or feats that can expand a sorcerers repertoire?

Pharaoh's Fist
2010-01-08, 10:57 AM
Mage of the Arcane Order

Limited Wish: Psychic Reformation shenanigans

mostlyharmful
2010-01-08, 10:58 AM
bloodline feats for flavour or just a basic class homebrew overhaul to up the known spells.

AustontheGreat1
2010-01-08, 11:04 AM
Mage of the Arcane Order

Limited Wish: Psychic Reformation shenanigans

whats that?

Pharaoh's Fist
2010-01-08, 11:07 AM
It lets you change your spells known for some xp.

Dimers
2010-01-08, 11:12 AM
There are, of course, the draconic feats in Complete Arcane. If you're exalted, you can get quite a few extra 'spells known' with the Exalted Arcanist class. With high Wisdom, the Arcane Disciple feat from Complete Arcane also adds one spell known of each level, 1-9.

Narazil
2010-01-08, 11:14 AM
Mage of the Arcane Order

Limited Wish: Psychic Reformation shenanigans

Can sorcerers even enter Mage of the Arcane Order? I mean, it's a requirement to prepare Arcane spells, which they don't.

Tyndmyr
2010-01-08, 11:20 AM
Yeah, you just need a feat.

Thurbane
2010-01-08, 11:25 AM
PrCs: Sandshaper, Fiend-Blooded

Feats: Extra Spell, Bloodline Feats (Dragon Compendium)

Anonymouswizard
2010-01-08, 11:49 AM
Mage of the Arcane Order would be brilliant if you could keep your money and use the spellpool.

Pharaoh's Fist
2010-01-08, 11:54 AM
Mage of the Arcane Order would be brilliant if you could keep your money and use the spellpool.

750 gp is small change.

Ernir
2010-01-08, 12:18 PM
Knowstones, items from Dragon Magazine 333.

You can read about them on Crystal Keep.

Kylarra
2010-01-08, 12:26 PM
Rainbow Servant with 10/10 >.>

Optimystik
2010-01-08, 12:33 PM
Can sorcerers even enter Mage of the Arcane Order? I mean, it's a requirement to prepare Arcane spells, which they don't.

Arcane Preparation (CArc).

ken-do-nim
2010-01-08, 12:38 PM
Take level of archmage, make a spell a spell-like ability, next level swap that spell out for another. Rinse & repeat. Hopefully you have a nice DM that says that the spell-like abilities are cast at your current level, not stuck at the level you made them at.

Optimystik
2010-01-08, 12:43 PM
Take level of archmage, make a spell a spell-like ability, next level swap that spell out for another. Rinse & repeat. Hopefully you have a nice DM that says that the spell-like abilities are cast at your current level, not stuck at the level you made them at.

And even if he does rule against you, simply swap spells that either aren't CL-dependent, or last so long that an hour or two makes no difference. (Or are already capped, which will also make no difference.)

Pharaoh's Fist
2010-01-08, 12:46 PM
Take level of archmage, make a spell a spell-like ability, next level swap that spell out for another. Rinse & repeat. Hopefully you have a nice DM that says that the spell-like abilities are cast at your current level, not stuck at the level you made them at.
The reasonable interpretation is that they are cast at your current level.

Anyhow, note that you can apply metamagic to the spell you select to be an SLA, as well as use up a higher level slot to increase the times per day. Thus, an Empowered Enervation 4/day will take up one 9th level slot.

Fun.

Draz74
2010-01-08, 12:47 PM
Runestaves need a mention ...

Eloel
2010-01-08, 12:54 PM
Rainbow Servant with 10/10 >.>

Rainbow Servant works alot better with Warmage/Beguiler/Dread Necromancer etc. classes - classes that know all spells on their list automatically.

jokey665
2010-01-08, 12:57 PM
PrCs: Sandshaper, Fiend-Blooded

Feats: Extra Spell, Bloodline Feats (Dragon Compendium)

Thisthisthisthisthis. I hate sorcerers but these feats made me want to play a sorcerer like you wouldn't believe.

Darrin
2010-01-08, 07:18 PM
Thisthisthisthisthis. I hate sorcerers but these feats made me want to play a sorcerer like you wouldn't believe.

Recent thread: More spells known (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7578246&postcount=34).

Not-so-recent thread: Bloodlines ranked (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5076244&postcount=30).

Vizzerdrix
2010-01-08, 09:12 PM
Cerebrosis and Mother Cyst. Each feat gets you 11 spells.

Paul H
2010-01-08, 09:31 PM
Hi

Play Pathfinder.........
(Your Bloodline grants extra bonuses, including extra spells at specific levels).

Cheers
Paul H

Sstoopidtallkid
2010-01-09, 01:13 AM
Voyeuristic Seer.

You said favorite class that boosts spells known, you never said WotC.

Longcat
2010-01-09, 01:16 AM
Play an Elf, get Chaos shuffle'd, and take Extra Spell a couple of times.

Thespianus
2010-01-09, 06:05 PM
For completeness sake: Unseen Seer lets you add 3 extra divination spells from any spell list, one at level 2, one at level 5 and one ant level 8.

Thurbane
2010-01-09, 06:52 PM
Voyeuristic Seer.

You said favorite class that boosts spells known, you never said WotC.
Where is that? BoEF?