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Dakaran
2010-01-08, 03:13 PM
I tried searching the forum but apparently searching for "world map" turns up no results. Has anyone put together a map of the OOTS world or is there one already in the comic that I'm forgetting?

ScottishDragon
2010-01-08, 03:15 PM
The giant would not make a world map because if he did he could not make up new lands to fit the storyline.If he made a map he would limit himself to certain places and have to change the story to accomodate the story.
there is a map.

Dakaran
2010-01-08, 03:20 PM
The giant would not make a world map because if he did he could not make up new lands to fit the storyline.If he made a map he would limit himself to certain places and have to change the story to accomodate the story.

Understandable, I just wanted to be sure I wasn't forgetting some strips that may have included partial maps or something. Then I guess my question more becomes has a reader attempted to put together a world map from what we've seen?

NerfTW
2010-01-08, 03:21 PM
There is a world map. We've seen a good picture of it in the comic when V cast Familicide. This is consistent with the map of Azure City and the surrounding areas shown in War and XPs.

There's one on the forum if you search.

Dakaran
2010-01-08, 03:34 PM
There is a world map. We've seen a good picture of it in the comic when V cast Familicide.

Thanks for the tip of the image of the globe in the Familicide comic. That's great!


There's one on the forum if you search.

Any thoughts on what search would bring up a map in the forum? I already tried the keywords world and map as well as "world map" in quotes.

zql
2010-01-08, 04:15 PM
yeah i was looking at the maps not long ago trying to make a general map with the towns and such on it and from what i can tell world 1.0 and 2.0 are roughly the same (there are some errors that could make them different or it could be crayon art vs the giant getting better at drawing)

think these comics are the only ones with maps of the worlds on em
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0274.html
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0275.html
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0672.html
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0639.html
and to a lesser
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0680.html

and page 36 on SoD

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137624


edit: notice that we have seen only one hemisphere, at best

Reynard
2010-01-08, 05:17 PM
Hey, notice on the famlicide globe that the spell seems to originate in the foresty bit that is north of the desert where the Order is now?

Occam's Bandage
2010-01-08, 05:21 PM
Given that the Elven lands have already been established as being in the forested northern part of the Western Continent, it's consistent.


The giant would not make a world map because if he did he could not make up new lands to fit the storyline.If he made a map he would limit himself to certain places and have to change the story to accomodate the story.

Actually, given the way he seems to operate in his world-construction, I'd be surprised if he didn't have a map made up as one of his preliminary steps. See: http://www.giantitp.com/articles/xO3dVM8EDKJPlKxmVoG.html

factotum
2010-01-08, 05:53 PM
The giant would not make a world map because if he did he could not make up new lands to fit the storyline.

That would assume the Giant is making it up as he goes along. I think he actually has a pretty good idea of where the story is going, and he thus already knows what lands he's going to need to tell it.

In any case, even if he DID need to keep some areas free for storyline purposes, that doesn't preclude a map. All he'd have to do is have large blank areas with "HERE BE TYGERS" or something to indicate no-one had ever gone there to map that part!

Spirited Charge
2010-01-08, 06:05 PM
Actually, given the way he seems to operate in his world-construction, I'd be surprised if he didn't have a map made up as one of his preliminary steps. See: http://www.giantitp.com/articles/xO3dVM8EDKJPlKxmVoG.html

Seems logical enough, but I think you've got the order mixed up. It seems to me that it would be more likely that he imagined the big story arcs first to see where they would need to be going and just build on from there.

NerfTW
2010-01-08, 06:05 PM
As he's said, he has the stats more or less written down, but they can fluctuate as needed for plot/fight purposes. That's why we'll never see them until the end of the comic. The same can be assumed of the map. He has a map in mind, but we'll only see parts that are already set in stone, in case anything needs to change.

For instance, the distance from Cliffport to Azure City might not have been set down until he needed it to take three days to get there.

treyh37
2010-01-08, 07:51 PM
yeah I haven't gotten very far on that map project cause i wasn't sure myself if someone had done that project before and my search didn't find anything, (also i'm not much of an artist)

think my previous post zql copied has most of the image links, rest of it requires reading various comics like this (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0226.html)
and this (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0300.html)

still in the end its likely to be big overlapping circles saying somewhere in here for most locations

Boogastreehouse
2010-01-09, 03:21 AM
Here is a thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5171) dedicated to OotS-World geography. As the Giant revealed clues and images of his world, the thread has been updated.

factotum
2010-01-09, 04:43 AM
Seems logical enough, but I think you've got the order mixed up. It seems to me that it would be more likely that he imagined the big story arcs first to see where they would need to be going and just build on from there.

I think it could happen either way, to be honest. Build a world, then tell your story within its constraints; or make up the story and then create a world to fit it. I know that 20 years ago or thereabouts I sat down over a boring summer holiday and drew several maps of a world, then later started making up a history for it--telling a story, if you will.

warrl
2010-01-09, 09:58 PM
I think it not only can, but usually should, go both ways simultaneously.

I want a rough sketch of the world pretty early in the process.

However, I'll be adding details continuously.

Which means that details need to have degrees of fixedness. Something can be specified very precisely in-story (moving or altering it it at all would have nasty consequences possibly involving alteration to already-published material) or vaguely in-story (I can still move/alter it as needed over a fairly large area) or not at all in-story (I can still decide whether it even exists).