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Primehunter74
2010-01-13, 10:11 PM
Okay, so i'm working on a dragon for a near-the-final-boss type of monster. This is a dragon type my friend made called a rune dragon. I gave it some sorcerer levels to even it out to a cr 10 encounter. Well, getting to the point. If you give it class levels, would this count as hit dice, and there force it to advance an age catagory? Someone help!

JaronK
2010-01-13, 10:15 PM
No, it will not advance age catagories. See Draconomicon for more details.

JaronK

Primehunter74
2010-01-13, 10:18 PM
Alright thanks, comforting thought. In my mind, the increase in age catagories didn't make sense, but i needed confirmation on that.

Edge of Dreams
2010-01-13, 11:54 PM
The basic idea with age categories and HD is this:

Getting older causes a dragon to gain HD and move up through the age categories.

BUT

Gaining HD through means OTHER THAN aging does not cause the dragon to get older.

Twilight Jack
2010-01-14, 10:47 AM
Ah, this reminds me of one of my favorite villains ever. A young adult blue dragon whose parents were killed by a wizard when he was little more than a wyrmling. He hunted the wizard down over the course of the next decade and managed to murder him in his own house thanks to some surprise and a lot of luck. He then took all the wizard's spellbooks and materials back to his own lair and began trading the coins from his hoard with other blue dragons in the area in exchange for other bits of magical writings and lore.

Seeing his parents overcome by the magic this little hairless monkey wielded invested him with a terror and fascination with the arcane, so he began studying ways to protect himself from that sort of power.

Fast forward 40+ years and our little blue has progressed as a specialist abjurer and parlayed the sorcerer casting from his dragon HD into levels as an ultimate magus. Needless to say, the players were not prepared for that little dragon to do what he did to them.

"Horrid wilting?!? How is that little dragon casting horrid wilting?!"

bosssmiley
2010-01-14, 11:02 AM
Okay, so i'm working on a dragon for a near-the-final-boss type of monster. If you give it class levels, would this count as hit dice, and there force it to advance an age catagory?

No. Class HD are not racial HD.

Mongoose87
2010-01-14, 11:15 AM
Ah, this reminds me of one of my favorite villains ever. A young adult blue dragon whose parents were killed by a wizard when he was little more than a wyrmling. He hunted the wizard down over the course of the next decade and managed to murder him in his own house thanks to some surprise and a lot of luck. He then took all the wizard's spellbooks and materials back to his own lair and began trading the coins from his hoard with other blue dragons in the area in exchange for other bits of magical writings and lore.

Seeing his parents overcome by the magic this little hairless monkey wielded invested him with a terror and fascination with the arcane, so he began studying ways to protect himself from that sort of power.

Fast forward 40+ years and our little blue has progressed as a specialist abjurer and parlayed the sorcerer casting from his dragon HD into levels as an ultimate magus. Needless to say, the players were not prepared for that little dragon to do what he did to them.

"Horrid wilting?!? How is that little dragon casting horrid wilting?!"

This is brilliant, and I may steal it. :smallbiggrin:

Yuki Akuma
2010-01-14, 11:21 AM
Remember that if he takes Sorcerer levels they add onto his natural sorcerer spellcasting ability - he doesn't become, like, two sorcerers or anything.

Runestar
2010-01-14, 06:29 PM
Though you are probably better off with lvs in abjurant champion. Caster lv = bab? :smallbiggrin:

jokey665
2010-01-14, 06:32 PM
Though you are probably better off with lvs in abjurant champion. Caster lv = bab? :smallbiggrin:

Oh god... this is the best idea ever.