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golem1972
2010-02-01, 09:16 PM
4th level start, 32 point buy, all WotC books available.

Building a Gestalt Changeling Bard 8 / Sublime Chord 2 / War Weaver 5 / Recaster 5 // ?

Looking for something to complement the Sublime Re-weaver build. Factotum or Rogue seem obvious, but don't really shore up the weaknesses of the build. Perhaps Ranger (Urban?) or Binder for more passive abilities?

avr
2010-02-01, 09:25 PM
You may find that you're bit short of HP for gestalt, so a high-HD class or one with defensive abilities (anything from ToB) is a better idea IMO. Pick a cause and you could be a Crusader?

Lycanthromancer
2010-02-01, 10:07 PM
Make your 1st level be the changeling rogue substitution level. You get (8+Int)x4 skill points, trapfinding, a bit of sneak attack (take Craven) and you get skill mastery with, like, 8 skills.

Then you can get your wizard sub-levels, and go unseen seer.

Jacob Orlove
2010-02-01, 10:20 PM
Technically, the Changeling Rogue sub level gives (10+int)x4 skill points. It's a great deal, especially if you're focusing on social skills.

Tome of Battle is a good choice if you want to mix it up in melee, but don't neglect simple Fighter levels. Combined with Bard, you get good hp, all good saves, full BAB, good skills, and some feats. Worst case, grab Improved Initiative, Improved Toughness, and the like.