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Lysander
2010-02-04, 03:22 PM
When building a gestalt character can you take advantage of spellcasting advancement prestige classes like Mystic Theurge or Ultimate Magus to pull off some major cheese?

For example, could you start as a Wizard/Cleric, then take Mystic Theurge/Sorcerer for your sixth level, then take Cleric/Ultimate Magus for the rest of your levels? Unless I'm mistaken this would (at level 20) give you full casting in wizard/cleric, the spells of a level 14 sorcerer, and all the abilities of a level 19 cleric.

Eldonauran
2010-02-04, 03:25 PM
No, taking prestige classes that increase multiple spellcasting classes is stricted prohibited from gesalt. Says so right in the section where it explains the rules.

unre9istered
2010-02-04, 03:38 PM
Not strictly prohibited, just strongly recommended against. In the end it's up to the DM.

Mongoose87
2010-02-04, 03:43 PM
Your DM may seek out his largest rulebook (which is pretty big, if he owns Pathfinder, so watch for that) and smack you with it.

Eldonauran
2010-02-04, 03:43 PM
A technicality. Anything is possible with a DM houseruling something. Gesalt is a variant/houserule anyway.

Sinfire Titan
2010-02-04, 03:46 PM
Your DM may seek out his largest rulebook (which is pretty big, if he owns Pathfinder, so watch for that) and smack you with it.

FATAL's a better choice for this, aside from the fact that it really shouldn't be called a rulebook.

alchemyprime
2010-02-04, 04:06 PM
FATAL's a better choice for this, aside from the fact that it really shouldn't be called a rulebook.

Arcana Evolved has some nice weight behind it to.

Os1ris09
2010-02-04, 04:35 PM
Your DM may seek out his largest rulebook (which is pretty big, if he owns Pathfinder, so watch for that) and smack you with it.

I agree with this quote above. That and it is strongly urged to not allow those class's because that in itself is cheese not even to mention what you can pull off.

Coidzor
2010-02-04, 04:36 PM
FATAL's a better choice for this, aside from the fact that it really shouldn't be called a rulebook.

...That was ever printed?! :smalleek:

Did the press burn to the ground afterward?

faceroll
2010-02-04, 05:13 PM
Not strictly prohibited, just strongly recommended against. In the end it's up to the DM.

It's also suggested that if you DO want to take levels in one of those classes, that that is the only class you take levels in. So mystic theurge would take up both sides of the progression.

magic9mushroom
2010-02-04, 05:24 PM
When building a gestalt character can you take advantage of spellcasting advancement prestige classes like Mystic Theurge or Ultimate Magus to pull off some major cheese?

For example, could you start as a Wizard/Cleric, then take Mystic Theurge/Sorcerer for your sixth level, then take Cleric/Ultimate Magus for the rest of your levels? Unless I'm mistaken this would (at level 20) give you full casting in wizard/cleric, the spells of a level 14 sorcerer, and all the abilities of a level 19 cleric.

It's really not any more cheesy than gestalt already is, unless you use Ur-Priest or other stuff that's broken in combination with dual-progressions anyway.

After all, you can get double full spell progression normally.