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PrismaticPIA
2010-02-09, 01:26 PM
Anyone know of a spell that gives a sizable skill bonus that can be permancied?

Optimystik
2010-02-09, 01:30 PM
"size skill?" :smallconfused:

PrismaticPIA
2010-02-09, 01:39 PM
5-20ish? trying to pump Concentration

Signmaker
2010-02-09, 01:41 PM
Do you mean 'sizeable'? As in, you want a large bonus to concentration from a spell able to be permanencied?

You'd probably want to look at the Permanency spell first.

Eloel
2010-02-09, 01:43 PM
Bear's Endurance gives +2 to Concentration if you have a Constitution score.
Eagle's Splendor gives +2 to Concentration if you don't have a Constitution score.

Totally Guy
2010-02-09, 01:52 PM
Hey, I've got an idea!

Favoured and Primary Contact feats from Cityscape. For a mere 2 feats you can have a whole extra skill rank!

That'll get you into all kinds of prestige classes a level early!

Signmaker
2010-02-09, 01:57 PM
Hey, I've got an idea!

Favoured and Primary Contact feats from Cityscape. For a mere 2 feats you can have a whole extra skill rank!

That'll get you into all kinds of prestige classes a level early!

Old news, and actually pretty low-effect. There aren't many prestige classes that are A. Able to have this trick utilized and B. Worth losing 2 feats for the 1 level early entry. It's much more effective to run something like Leech Ghost Skill or Psychic Reformation abuse if you're looking for stuff like that.

Viletta Vadim
2010-02-09, 02:09 PM
Permanency only applies to a fairly limited list of spells. However, you can toss up Divine Insight (SpC) up regularly for a hefty bonus to a single skill check within the next hour.

Totally Guy
2010-02-09, 02:14 PM
Old news, and actually pretty low-effect. There aren't many prestige classes that are A. Able to have this trick utilized and B. Worth losing 2 feats for the 1 level early entry. It's much more effective to run something like Leech Ghost Skill or Psychic Reformation abuse if you're looking for stuff like that.

Oh sorry, I saw sarcasm and had to join in.

Claudius Maximus
2010-02-09, 02:29 PM
Guidance of the Avatar (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/sb/sb20010504a) is good for a big boost, but can not be made permanent.

Magic Items can grant competence bonuses to skills up to +30, and are continuous.

Sinfire Titan
2010-02-09, 02:55 PM
Ways to boost Concentration:


Expend your Psionic Focus (effectively sets your die roll to 15)
Shape Soulmeld (Vitality Belt): +4 bonus to Con checks and Con-based Skill checks (AKA Concentration).
One of the Third Eyes in the MiC: Constant +10.
Skill Focus (Duh).
Assist checks: Get a familiar, have it roll an assist check. The more helpers you have, the larger the bonus. The higher the roll, the better the benefits.
Custom Legacy Item: Up to a +15 enhancement bonus to any skill check.
Wand of Divine Insight: 5+CL (base bonus= +8, max +15) Insight bonus to any one skill check.
The capstone spell from the domain in Races of Destiny: Treat any d20 roll as a Nat 20 (can be Persisted). Harder to get than a Psionic Focus though.
Wand of Guidance of the Avatar: +20 Competence bonus.

Combining the non-feat methods, you can get the following:

Con mod: +5 (easily, bare minimum)
Ranks: +23
Psionic Focus: 15
Third Eye: +10
Assist check: +3 (thanks to CAdv)
Legacy Item: +15
Wand of Divine Insight: +8
Guidance of the Avatar: +20

Total: DC 99 Concentration check.

Claudius Maximus
2010-02-09, 02:59 PM
The capstone spell from the domain in Races of Destiny: Treat any d20 roll as a Nat 20 (can be Persisted).

It actually lets you roll most d20s twice, and take the better of the two.

Darrin
2010-02-09, 05:33 PM
Ways to boost Concentration:


Also:

Marshal's "Motivate Constitution" aura, add Cha bonus to Con-based checks.
Shape Soulmeld: Lucky Dice, +1 luck bonus on skill checks.
Hardened Criminal feat (City of Stormreach), pick a skill, take 10 on it at any time.

Person_Man
2010-02-09, 06:16 PM
Item Familiar (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/magic/itemFamiliars.htm)'s Invest Skill Ranks ability let's you spend 3 Skill Points to gain a permanant unnamed bonus to any Skill. You can have a maximum bonus equal to the number of Skill ranks you have in that Skill. So by ECL 20, you can get +23 to any one Skill, at a cost of 69 Skill Points. Item Familiar is great for a lot of other reasons as well.

Splendor
2010-02-09, 11:48 PM
Usually to craft a magical item with a skill bonus it requires you to have the same number of ranks in the same skill. So if you wanted to make a +10 Concentration item you'd have to have 10 ranks in concentration. So if you have 30 ranks in concentration you can make a +30 concentration item.
Otherwise if your just allowed to buy "standard" items here are two from the Magical item compendium.
Third Eye Concentrate +10 competence bonus to Concentration
Tunic of Steady Spellcasting +5 competence bonus to Concentration

Lycanthromancer
2010-02-10, 12:00 AM
Don't forget a masterwork tool for a +2 circumstance bonus, and a familiar or psicrystal for an additional +3.

absolmorph
2010-02-10, 12:11 AM
Don't forget a masterwork tool for a +2 circumstance bonus, and a familiar or psicrystal for an additional +3.
What would a MW tool for Concentration be?

PrismaticPIA
2010-02-10, 12:45 AM
What would a MW tool for Concentration be?

A Japanese headband.

Unless I'm mistaken, competence bonuses don't stack. Correct? Great ideas, btw. I'm trying to kill people with ale flasks (via Greater Insightful Strike).

Foryn Gilnith
2010-02-10, 09:23 AM
What would a MW tool for Concentration be?

A head-mounted array of crystals that focus cosmic energy into your brow chakra.

elonin
2010-02-10, 09:43 AM
Just to be pertinent what level are you and what are you trying to do? Your class might be good information to have too.

PrismaticPIA
2010-02-11, 10:28 AM
13th level, Swordsage. GIS is a 6th level maneuver.

magic9mushroom
2010-02-11, 10:42 AM
Old news, and actually pretty low-effect. There aren't many prestige classes that are A. Able to have this trick utilized and B. Worth losing 2 feats for the 1 level early entry. It's much more effective to run something like Leech Ghost Skill or Psychic Reformation abuse if you're looking for stuff like that.

One of the few happens to be an unmentionable, you know.

lsfreak
2010-02-11, 10:51 AM
Get a way of having an unseen servant or something similar with you at all times; have them assist your Concentration checks at all times. That's a +2 to the check on success.

PrismaticPIA
2010-02-11, 01:01 PM
Get a way of having an unseen servant or something similar with you at all times; have them assist your Concentration checks at all times. That's a +2 to the check on success.

Theory, would it be possible to have an army of unseen servants assisting my concentration check?

magic9mushroom
2010-02-11, 01:12 PM
Theory, would it be possible to have an army of unseen servants assisting my concentration check?

You're getting into Nanobot shenanigans there.