"Rouge"?

[Math_Mage]

The misspelling is so common around here that I'm wondering whether it's deliberate. That is all.

[Flarp]

It's not.

What is the point of this thread, exactly?

[Boci]

Sometimes yes, but mostly I think its just a mistake born of the fact that when you type fast, "rouge" is more convinient than "rogue".

[LurkerInPlayground]

That people are infuriatingly bad at spelling.

[Dusk Eclipse]

I don't believe it is deliberate, misspelling is common in typing and since rouge and rogue are two actual words any spellchecker won't find them as wrong, it is just a typo.

[sonofzeal]

It's common everywhere, as spellcheckers don't find it, it has the same first and last letter, and it has the same general profile.

That said, I have a pretty low tolerance for people who confuse thieves with blush.

[magic9mushroom]

I failed my Will save.

I cast Otto's Irresistible Browsing. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RougeAnglesOfSatin)

[Hallavast]

My World of Warcraft friends and I used to call rogues "rouges" (in Vent) if they were bad at it or annoying. It bled over into my D&D group, too.

In D&D a rouge is a rogue that doesn't do his job.

-if he's the only character with trapfinding, he should have a search skill and disable device. If not, he's a rouge.

-if a character fails at basic rogue skills like hiding, tumbling, or bluffing, she's a rouge.

-if a player insists on playing a "sneaky pickpocket" stereotype that pickpockets innocent people at random for their pocket change, then that player is a rouge (even if he's not playing a rogue).

:smallwink:

[magic9mushroom]

When someone fails their save vs. Intellect Bomb, THAT is Rouge.

[Vizzerdrix]

As a person whom constantly miss spells said class name, I prefer to just call it thief instead. or Teev.

[Lycanthromancer]

People don't proof read. It's like someone who tries to start a thread starring "Satin, king queen of the underworld," or "Santa, the ultimate evil."

[rayne_dragon]

In D&D a rouge is a rogue that doesn't do his job.


I will be adopting this practice as of now. :smallsmile:

Too bad the rogues I play with are good at their job.

[Gorbash]

It also baffles me why people spell sorcerer with an o - sorcerOr.

[sonofzeal]

I believe this is an appropriate place for Rouge Angles of Satin (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RougeAnglesOfSatin).

[Seffbasilisk]

There actually was a Rouge class in the homebrew section a while back. Trying to see if a link to it can be found...

[Hallavast]

I believe this is an appropriate place for Rouge Angles of Satin (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RougeAnglesOfSatin).

You've been beaten to the punch, sir.

[Lycanthromancer]

It also baffles me why people spell sorcerer with an o - sorcerOr.What's worse is when people misspell the word 'swordsage.' For some reason, they keep spelling it 'monk'.

[Seffbasilisk]

Found it!

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10445 (Rouge)

[Aedilred]

"Sorceror" I can forgive more readily than "rouge". In many (the majority?) of Classically- and Romantically-derived words, the ending "-or" is standard: actor, orator, dictator, and so on. In this context, "sorceror" may look more correct than "sorcerer" (which is, I think, an English original, hence -er).

What's more, "sorceror" wouldn't change the pronunciation, whereas even in English you'd struggle to pronounce "rouge" as "rogue".

While on the subject, a pet hate of mine, which I see less frequently than I used to, is some variation of "orger", sometimes "orge", for "ogre". Again, what do they think that first "r" is doing in there?!

[absolmorph]

People talk about rouges so much because they're over-powdered.

[Jarawara]

People talk about rouges so much because they're over-powdered.

Ohhhh, that's terrible! :smallbiggrin:

[Longcat]

In 4e, Rouges are called "Artful Dodgers", for they employ extensive amounts of make-up to keep up their appearance.


What's worse is when people misspell the word 'swordsage.' For some reason, they keep spelling it 'monk'.

I bet they're the same people who misspell "Warblade" as "Fighter".

[Lycanthromancer]

While on the subject, a pet hate of mine, which I see less frequently than I used to, is some variation of "orger", sometimes "orge", for "ogre". Again, what do they think that first "r" is doing in there?!Shouldn't that be 'orgy'?

[AmberVael]

Found it!

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10445 (Rouge)

You got your coding backwards.
This:
Rouge (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10445)
Is what you want.

[RebelRogue]

"Rouge" is getting less and less common here, I think. What really irks me are all the "dieties" floating around here. What's that supposed to mean? Gods trying to lose weight? :smalltongue:

[Curmudgeon]

One thing this error isn't is a typo. It's much easier to spell words with letters from alternating hands, and "rogue" fits that exactly (just as "exact" fits it not at all :smallwink:). So people have to believe that "rouge" is the word they're looking for, as it requires slightly more effort to type.

[Swordgleam]

One thing this error isn't is a typo. It's much easier to spell words with letters from alternating hands, and "rogue" fits that exactly (just as "exact" fits it not at all :smallwink:). So people have to believe that "rouge" is the word they're looking for, as it requires slightly more effort to type.

Typos aren't all physical - most people also call mental slips a typo. You know, like how people type "You ignorant fool, not even your mother could love you!!" instead of "I respect and value your opinion on which edition of D&D is more fun to play," because even though the keys aren't next to each other, the words are really similar.

[Felyndiira]

"Rouge" is getting less and less common here, I think. What really irks me are all the "die-ties" floating around here. What's that supposed to mean? Gods trying to lose weight? :smalltongue:

The secret has been revealed. Every time you put on a tie, god kills a Cleric-girl.

Please, workers of the world, untie.

[Thurbane]

It also baffles me why people spell sorcerer with an o - sorcerOr.
Well, um, ya see...that's how the rest of the world outside of the USofA spells it. :smallwink:

[lesser_minion]

Well, um, ya see...that's how the rest of the world outside of the USofA spells it. :smallwink:

Well, it's spelt 'sorcerer' in Europe.

I tolerate 'rouges' and 'sorcerors', but stabbings tend to ensue when shear and sheer get mixed up.

[Thurbane]

Well, it's spelt 'sorcerer' in Europe.
Really? I always thought sorceror was the British spelling, which is why we use it here in Australia...now I'm just confused... :smallfrown:

[nightwyrm]

People mixes up they're, their and there; uses your instead of you're; no clue when to use its instead of it's; and writes "would of" instead of "would've" which is a contraction of would have.

Reading forums sometimes hurts my eyes.

[Optimystik]

What's worse is when people misspell the word 'swordsage.' For some reason, they keep spelling it 'monk'.

What you did their. I sea it.

[Swordgleam]

People mixes up they're, their and there; uses your instead of you're; no clue when to use its instead of it's; and writes "would of" instead of "would've" which is a contraction of would have.

Reading forums sometimes hurts my eyes.

I'm also fond of "for all intensive purposes."

[Thurbane]

People mixes up they're, their and there; uses your instead of you're; no clue when to use its instead of it's; and writes "would of" instead of "would've" which is a contraction of would have.

Reading forums sometimes hurts my eyes.
"To" and "too" is another common mistake.

[Gorbash]

Well, um, ya see...that's how the rest of the world outside of the USofA spells it. :smallwink:

Well, I'm not from USA, so it doesn't really apply to me. :smalltongue:

I mean, just type Sorceror in google, it will correct you and every article is about sorcerers, not sorcerors. My point is, it's the same mistake as Rouge. People spell rogue 'rouge' because it sounds like that when pronounced and they actually believe that's the correct spelling. O is nowhere near E, so it's not a typo it's a misconception about spelling.

[Thurbane]

Well, I'm not from USA, so it doesn't really apply to me. :smalltongue:

I mean, just type Sorceror in google, it will correct you and every article is about sorcerers, not sorcerors.
Well, that doesn't prove a lot. It will also correct "colour" to "color", "armour" to "armor" and so forth.

But I may have been mistaken in this case...

[Gorbash]

It will also correct "colour" to "color", "armour" to "armor" and so forth.

No, it won't, check it. :smallbiggrin: It will point out that there are spelling differences, but sorcerOr is an error. :smallwink: It just bugs me that people think it's correct. :/

[Thurbane]

No, it won't, check it. :smallbiggrin: It will point out that there are spelling differences, but sorcerOr is an error. :smallwink: It just bugs me that people think it's correct. :/
I am honestly amazed. I've been spelling it that way all my life - so have all my friends, AFAIK. Maybe it's an Aussie regional thing?

[Swordgleam]

I mean, just type Sorceror in google, it will correct you

Google doesn't actually spellcheck - it just suggests more common searches that are similar to what you're looking for. So it can actually mess you up if you're searching for something that a ton of people misspell.

[PirateMonk]

"Rouge" is getting less and less common here, I think. What really irks me are all the "dieties" floating around here. What's that supposed to mean? Gods trying to lose weight? :smalltongue:

A diety is an edible deity, such as the Flying Spaghetti Monster.


I mean, just type Sorceror in google, it will correct you and every article is about sorcerers, not sorcerors.

Most of the results on the first few pages are sorcerors. They could all be spelling it wrong, but it's certainly very common.

[Starbuck_II]

No, it won't, check it. :smallbiggrin: It will point out that there are spelling differences, but sorcerOr is an error. :smallwink: It just bugs me that people think it's correct. :/

Nope. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31494

An official item in WoW.

http://www.sorcerorsquest.com/adria/index.html
A game emulator.

A game: http://download.cnet.com/The-Last-Sorceror/3000-7563_4-53880.html

A definition: http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Sorceror

Lineage 2: calls them Sorcerors.

http://tgr316.blazeirc.net/RPGMotivational/sorceror.jpg

[Gorbash]

Doesn't change the fact that every article there is about mages/wizards/magic refers to sorcerers, not sorcerors.

[jokey665]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorceror redirects you to Sorcerer. That's all the confirmation I need.

[lesser_minion]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorceror redirects you to Sorcerer. That's all the confirmation I need.

Not really. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/courgette redirects you to 'zucchini'. To argue that either was correct would be nothing more than an exercise in snobbery (although the title of the article really should be 'courgette' :smallamused:)

Wikipedia's redirect system can't really be used to prove anything.

However, Google does better:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=define%3Asorceror&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=o&oq=

[dspeyer]

Now I want to play a Hooloovoo Rouge. If we have Hagunemnons, why not Hooloovoos?

[Thurbane]

Not really. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/courgette redirects you to 'zucchini'. To argue that either was correct would be nothing more than an exercise in snobbery (although the title of the article really should be 'courgette' :smallamused:)

Wikipedia's redirect system can't really be used to prove anything.

However, Google does better:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=define%3Asorceror&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=o&oq=
I only found out that zucchinis are called courgettes when I shared a house with a guy from England. Guess there's more Italian influence in Australian fruit 'n' veg than French. Same with eggplants and aubergines. :smallbiggrin:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sorceror

[lesser_minion]

I only found out that zucchinis are called courgettes when I shared a house with a guy from England. Guess there's more Italian influence in Australian fruit 'n' veg than French. Same with eggplants and aubergines. :smallbiggrin:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sorceror

I don't think it's quite that popular: http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=sorceror&action=history

The guy who wrote that article didn't know, but I get the impression that the OED aren't ready to call it an alternative spelling yet.

[RebelRogue]

Zucchini, courgette, squash. All the same thing :smallsmile:

I checked 'sorceror' on both dictionary.com and Merriam-Webster. Neither accepts it. So, I'd say it's definitely not right.

[lesser_minion]

Zucchini, courgette, squash. All the same thing :smallsmile:

I checked 'sorceror' on both dictionary.com and Merriam-Webster. Neither accepts it. So, I'd say it's definitely not right.

Both are US dictionaries though.

The OED isn't online, but Chambers has this (I searched for 'sorcer?r' - i.e. with any letter in place of the question mark):

http://www.chambersharrap.co.uk/chambers/features/chref/chref.py/main?query=sorcer%3Fr&title=21st

'sorceror' returned nothing.

[Heliomance]

Well, I'm not from USA, so it doesn't really apply to me. :smalltongue:

I mean, just type Sorceror in google, it will correct you and every article is about sorcerers, not sorcerors. My point is, it's the same mistake as Rouge. People spell rogue 'rouge' because it sounds like that when pronounced and they actually believe that's the correct spelling. O is nowhere near E, so it's not a typo it's a misconception about spelling.

Er, what? How do you pronounce rouge? Most people I know pronounce it "roozh", or "rooj" with a soft j. Rogue, on the other hand, is pronounced "row'g" (not to be confused with "raug", but the best I can approximate without dipping into IPA symbols). I'm not entirely sure how you think rogue sounds anything like rouge.

Interesting point: While typing that, I nearly typed rouge instead of rogue. Theories about it being easier to type with alternate hands be damned, rouge flows more easily off the fingers than rogue. The trick is to always read over what you rote before hitting send.

[Thurbane]

The reason that rogue and rouge are so common may be because the human mind tends to auto-correct letters in the wrong order, so people might also miss it in the proof reading.

@RebelRogue: are you sure a squash is the same as a zucchini? What we call a squash here in australia is bright yellow, not the dark green of a zucchini.

[MlleRouge]

It's intentional, but its not a misspelling...:smallwink:



On a serious note, I do see 'rogue' spelled as 'rouge' quite often. I play World of Warcraft as well and see it all over the place in there, too.


I chalk it up to general internet spelling deficiency.

[Gorbash]

Er, what? How do you pronounce rouge? Most people I know pronounce it "roozh", or "rooj" with a soft j. Rogue, on the other hand, is pronounced "row'g" (not to be confused with "raug", but the best I can approximate without dipping into IPA symbols). I'm not entirely sure how you think rogue sounds anything like rouge.

Interesting point: While typing that, I nearly typed rouge instead of rogue. Theories about it being easier to type with alternate hands be damned, rouge flows more easily off the fingers than rogue. The trick is to always read over what you rote before hitting send.

You misunderstood me. I didn't want to say that Rogue sounds like Rouge. Since Rogue is pronounced Roug, and Rouge is spelled in similar way, maybe people write what they hear, and therefore write Rouge.

That's the problem with languages like english, where there are spelling rules. My language (serbian) has a rule: Read as it is written and write as it is read (more like a saying). Meaning if we had the word Rogue, it would have been spelled as 'roug'.

[Heliomance]

The trick is to always read over what you rote before hitting send.

*facepalm*

The irony does not escape me.

[RebelRogue]

@RebelRogue: are you sure a squash is the same as a zucchini? What we call a squash here in australia is bright yellow, not the dark green of a zucchini.
Around here, squash is indeed the most common name for these vegetables, primarily the green variety. Yellow ones are not unheard of, though. I think they're both subspecies of squash and they taste about the same anyway.

[Sophismata]

"Santa, the ultimate evil."

I don't see why this is a typo.

[lesser_minion]

Around here, squash is indeed the most common name for these vegetables, primarily the green variety. Yellow ones are not unheard of, though. I think they're both subspecies of squash and they taste about the same anyway.

Wiki lists courgettes, butternut squashes and pumpkins as all being squashes, so yeah...

Saying that, courgettes don't really taste like the others. Marrows perhaps, but they taste of nothing, IIRC.


*facepalm*

The irony does not escape me.

Muphry's law strikes again, I guess.

[DarknessLord]

I call it a Rouge all the time, but generally only when I'm actually talking to the person face to face, but the occasional typo is known to get by me.

[Thurbane]

Around here, squash is indeed the most common name for these vegetables, primarily the green variety. Yellow ones are not unheard of, though. I think they're both subspecies of squash and they taste about the same anyway.
Fair 'nuff. I like zucchinis, so I might have to give the yellow ones a try. :smallsmile:

[Lysander]

I notice a lot of strange typos here that seem careless more than anything else. Sometimes a perfectly normal sentence will have a string of random meaningless characters accidentally added in like "IMHO" or "RAW."

[Lycanthromancer]

Around here, squash is indeed the most common name for these vegetables, primarily the green variety. Yellow ones are not unheard of, though. I think they're both subspecies of squash and they taste about the same anyway.Technically they're fruits.

But whatever.

[lesser_minion]

I notice a lot of strange typos here that seem careless more than anything else. Sometimes a perfectly normal sentence will have a string of random meaningless characters accidentally added in like "IMHO" or "RAW."

imho, that's hardly unreasonable.

[Dimers]

I am honestly amazed. I've been spelling it that way all my life - so have all my friends, AFAIK. Maybe it's an Aussie regional thing?

Nah ... I grew up in Alabama after my formative years in Massachusetts, so I'm not sure which region of the country messed me up, but I was raised on the -OR spelling too.

[absolmorph]

I notice a lot of strange typos here that seem careless more than anything else. Sometimes a perfectly normal sentence will have a string of random meaningless characters accidentally added in like "IMHO" or "RAW."
TBH, I'm quite guilty of that.

[Math_Mage]

I notice a lot of strange typos here that seem careless more than anything else. Sometimes a perfectly normal sentence will have a string of random meaningless characters accidentally added in like "IMHO" or "RAW."

ROFL! This happens all the time AFAIK. IIRC, there are quite a few examples IRL. IMHO, you should JFGI, but YMMV.

[Lycanthromancer]

What about treasure typos?

[magic9mushroom]

I believe this is an appropriate place for Rouge Angles of Satin (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RougeAnglesOfSatin).

I already did that, except I was inventive and referred to it as casting Otto's Irresistible Browsing.


I notice a lot of strange typos here that seem careless more than anything else. Sometimes a perfectly normal sentence will have a string of random meaningless characters accidentally added in like "IMHO" or "RAW."

If you don't like acronyms, that's your business, but they aren't typos.