Divine-Arcane questions

[Tyndmyr]

What's the easiest way to pick up 9th level divine casting, assuming you already have 9th level arcane casting? Is there a feat or something to simply allow you to cross over for one spell?

What this is important for: Epic feat: Bonus Domain, with regards to a domain wizard. One of the more unusual ways to regain access to spells in schools you've banned.

[magic9mushroom]

What's the easiest way to pick up 9th level divine casting, assuming you already have 9th level arcane casting? Is there a feat or something to simply allow you to cross over for one spell?

What this is important for: Epic feat: Bonus Domain, with regards to a domain wizard. One of the more unusual ways to regain access to spells in schools you've banned.

Do you want "able to cast 9th level divine spells", or do you want to actually be able to cast them?

In the former case, level dip Cleric/Ur-Priest/Archivist/whatever + Alternative Source Spell. In the latter case, Ur-Priest + Mystic Theurge

[Tyndmyr]

Do you want "able to cast 9th level divine spells", or do you want to actually be able to cast them?

In the former case, level dip Cleric/Ur-Priest/Archivist/whatever + Alternative Source Spell. In the latter case, Ur-Priest + Mystic Theurge

Oh, I just want to fulfill the pre-req with the minimum investment necessary. A dip and a feat is reasonable, especially if epic is in the cards, since you'll max out arcane casting anyhow. Hmm, cleric dip, if taken further allows initiate of mystra down the road, but Ur-priest and archivist both offer other goodies if advanced later as well. Though frankly, the archivist bennies are probably less important if you're already casting as a full wizard.

So, ur priest or cleric dip, then.

[Cyclocone]

Southern Magician from some FR book (RoF IIRC) lets you cast arcane spells as divine and vice versa.

LEoF also has Arcane Transfiguration, which reopens a previously prohibited school.

[Tyndmyr]

Southern Magician from some FR book (RoF IIRC) lets you cast arcane spells as divine and vice versa.

LEoF also has Arcane Transfiguration, which reopens a previously prohibited school.

Can it be taken multiple times, for possible master specialist fun?

Domain wizard and specialization are explicitly not combinable, unfortunately, but I wonder if there's another way to arrive at the same end goal...

[Cyclocone]

Can it be taken multiple times, for possible master specialist fun?

Unfortunately no.

But it also has two pre-req feats, so it's not a very great deal anyway.

[Tyndmyr]

Unfortunately no.

But it also has two pre-req feats, so it's not a very great deal anyway.

Given that it negates the only real negative between specialist and master specialist, it still might be worth it. Spell slots are quite valuable, as are spells known/available. Depends on the feats, I guess.

Domain wizard + extra domain might be the easiest way to pull off what's essentially a specialist wizard without the actual negatives of one. Unfortunately, it requires access to epic feats.

[magic9mushroom]

Given that it negates the only real negative between specialist and master specialist, it still might be worth it. Spell slots are quite valuable, as are spells known/available. Depends on the feats, I guess.

Domain wizard + extra domain might be the easiest way to pull off what's essentially a specialist wizard without the actual negatives of one. Unfortunately, it requires access to epic feats.

I think you mean focused specialist, not master specialist, since it's focused specialist that loses an extra school. Master specialist is a PrC that improves your specialised school.

Diversified Casting from Dragon 325 does a similar thing, you can add three spells from a prohibited school to your spell list and use spell-completion and spell-trigger items using that school. Can be taken once for each prohibited school. Also, it has no prerequisites besides having a prohibited school.

[Tyndmyr]

I think you mean focused specialist, not master specialist, since it's focused specialist that loses an extra school. Master specialist is a PrC that improves your specialised school.

You're correct. I occasionally flip the two of those around, my bad.


Diversified Casting from Dragon 325 does a similar thing, you can add three spells from a prohibited school to your spell list and use spell-completion and spell-trigger items using that school. Can be taken once for each prohibited school. Also, it has no prerequisites besides having a prohibited school.

Hmm, that's kind of nifty. Generally, there's only a few spells that really hurt to lose from most schools anyhow, and while UMD can cure the other problem...it is a nifty bonus.

[Mongoose87]

Rainbow Servant gives domains and all Cleric spells at 10th level.