Let's Get Frustrated! (Fire Emblem LP)

[Gorgondantess]

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs22/f/2007/335/4/1/Fire_Emblem_Background_by_BritTheMighty.jpg
Will not be appearing in this LP.


I've recently been musing about starting myself an LP. I've also recently acquired myself a copy of the updated DS version of Shadow Dragon. No, I will not be LPing that one either. Quite the contrary, playing it made me yearn for the good ol' game boy advance Fire Emblem games. The save system left the mental equivalent of a bad taste in the mouth, for me: sure, it's nice for RNG abuse, but it really is an insult to my fond memories of playing Fire Emblem, spending a good hour going through Cog of Fate, finally clearing every last harrowing mook, then losing Guy on the boss and throwing my Game Boy against the wall in a fury. Thank god the things are pretty much indestructible.:smallbiggrin:

For those of you who don't know about Fire Emblem, it's a fantasy turn based strategy game/ RPG, where you control about a dozen units on a field of battle. You spend time on them, babying them through their formative years when you first recruit them with the hopes they'll one day be godlike bladesmasters, you build up their relationships with other characters, you invest finite xp into them, you get to love watching their every move on the battlefield, watching them slice through mook after faceless mook.
And if they hit 0 hp, if they die- and they will- they aren't video game dead. They won't come back the next battle. They're worm food dead: you'll never see them again. If you want them back, you have to start the level over.

And I'm very, very careless, so you'll get to see me get mouth-foamingly frustrated, as each level ranges from 15 minutes- an hour or so.:smalltongue:

Anyways, I've played through both 'Fire Emblem' and Sacred Stones. And to put the 'us' in the 'Let(us) Play', I'll let you, good playground-goers decide which one I'll go through. When that is decided, at the end of each level I'll let you decide whether or not I invest precious, precious xp in the new recruits.
Just one caveat (well, 3): First, I'll be automatically be investing xp in the lords, be it Lyn, Hector and Eliwood or Eirika and Ephraim. You have to bring them along every level, they're all pretty damn good, so might as well use them. Second, I'll never go over 12 characters, including the lords. You have a max allowed to be brought with you on each level, and I don't like it when xp is spread too thin. 12 is a good number. Thirdly, I love swordsages, and I adore sages. So, for Fire Emblem, I'll have to grab either Erk or Pent, or Guy or Karel, and in Sacred Stones I'll have to either grab Joshua or Marisa or Lute or Ewan. Fire Emblem just isn't Fire Emblem without my darling glass cannons.:smallbiggrin:

Oh, and if I do Sacred Stones, I'll let you choose whether I go with Eirika or Ephraim. For Fire Emblem, I will not be playing Hector Hard mode. I will be playing Eliwood's story, as Hector's is not unlocked on my system. Sorry.

So then, after my long rant, first things first: Fire Emblem or Sacred Stones?:smallcool:
http://ui24.gamespot.com/1175/fireemblem1_2.jpg
http://ui13.gamespot.com/2380/fireemblemtss2_2.jpg

That's more like it.

Finished votes:
Which Game?:
Votes for Fire Emblem: 9
Votes for Sacred Stones: 6

Kent/Sain?:

Both: 0
Kent only: 0
Sain only: 4
Neither: 2

Florina, Who we will be shipping with Lyn:

Yes: 7
No: 1

Wil:

Yes: 5
No: 4

Dorcas:

Yes: 1
No: 5


Erk or Pent:
Erk: 8
Pent: 7

Rath/Matthew

An emphatic No.


Lucius:

Yes: 6
No: 1


Ironman Style of play:
Yes: 6
No: 1

Wallace?:
Yes:
No:


The Team, as it stands:
Eliwood
Hector
Lyn
Sain
Florina
Wil
Serra
Erk
Swordmaster (Guy or Karel)
Lucius
(Not Chosen)
(Not Chosen)


Deaths: 0

Episode 1: Opening/ A Girl from the Plains (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7924289&postcount=49)
Episode 2: Footsteps of Fate (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7926385&postcount=50)
Episode 3: Sword of Spirits (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7935526&postcount=70)
Episode 4: Mediocrity Ensues. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7939847&postcount=112)
Episode 5: Death of a Dorc (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7945041&postcount=141)
Episode 6: He's better off than that cat. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7966097&postcount=178)
Episode 7: Lack of Wit (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8026551&postcount=215)
Episode 8: Neither of them are Women. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8061934&postcount=235)

[RationalGoblin]

You should play Sacred Stones. Because no one should miss a golden opportunity to make fun of the main characters in that game, especially Erikia. :smallbiggrin:

[Gorgondantess]

You should play Sacred Stones. Because no one should miss a golden opportunity to make fun of the main characters in that game, especially Erikia. :smallbiggrin:

Makes me wish I was playing Path of Radiance... making fun of Ike is hilarious. I just don't like playing the game as much.:smallsigh:

[chiasaur11]

If you go with regular Fire Emblem, Kent and Sain might be good picks for some XP. Stuffed shirt and womanizing idiot tend to have a good dynamic. And they're solid units from the word go.

And Kent's supports with that one peg knight amused me.

[Gorgondantess]

If you go with regular Fire Emblem, Kent and Sain might be good picks for some XP. Stuffed shirt and womanizing idiot tend to have a good dynamic. And they're solid units from the word go.

And Kent's supports with that one peg knight amused me.

I vastly prefer Sain, myself- he's just so fun. And his stats are more fun to play; just enough speed to double hit most of the time, but nice strength so that the hits really count. Kent is kinda boring.
However, half the reason I'm opening up voting for which characters I use is to force me to break my mold. Maybe I'll play someone I never have before and really get to like them.

Anyways, is that a vote for Fire Emblem classic?

[Pie Guy]

Why can't you take all the characters? Why limit yourself to Joshua OR Marisa?

(I only have sacred stones.)

Will you be XP farming if we do sacred stones?

[Raroy]

Sacred Stones is easy mode. Go for Fire Emblem: Fuin no Tsurugi. If your not familar with that one, then that's a shame. Blazing sword then.

^Sacred stones is the only fire emblem where you can exp grind. In the other games, you can only play a mission once and spreading exp for units will cause them to be weak overall.

[Gorgondantess]

Why can't you take all the characters? Why limit yourself to Joshua OR Marisa?

(I only have sacred stones.)

Will you be XP farming if we do sacred stones?

I meant at least Joshua or Marisa. Both is always okay, even if I prefer a varied party.
If we do Sacred Stones, I'll only farm to help out guys like Ewan: underleveled, late game characters. It's just too boring.:smallsigh:
EDIT; And, excuse me, Shadow Dragon is easy mode. Save points mid level? Seriously?
And, I'm sorry, but I'm a stupid, unwashed american. Path of Radiance, Fire Emblem, Sacred Stones and Shadow Dragon are all I have the means to access.

[Revya]

I vote for Fire Emblem.

Are you going to be writing from a POV? I think the Tactician feature there is practically a built-in way to write the LP as if you were a character in the game.

If you do end up playing Fire Emblem, I would like to request you use my two favorite characters even though you recruit them fairly late.
Jaffar and Nino
Thanks for this. I'm interested no matter which game you eventually pick. I haven't played Blazing Sword in ages, and I never played Sacred Stones or any of the others.

[Gorgondantess]

I vote for Fire Emblem.

Are you going to be writing from a POV? I think the Tactician feature there is practically a built-in way to write the LP as if you were a character in the game.

If you do end up playing Fire Emblem, I would like to request you use my two favorite characters even though you recruit them fairly late.
Jaffar and Nino
Thanks for this. I'm interested no matter which game you eventually pick. I haven't played Blazing Sword in ages, and I never played Sacred Stones or any of the others.

Oh, yes. The former is pretty badass: the latter is... well, potentially awesome, though the animation for the male sage puts the female sage to shame. I practically squee'd when I first promoted Erk and saw his awesomeness.
I'm not a talented enough writer to do it from a POV. But thanks for the interest.:smallbiggrin:

[Raroy]

Shadow dragon is boring mode. Guess I could only appreciate the game after I killed off all the useless units (Hey, the game practically rewards you for it) and got things done. But I digress. I'm not here to trash on shadow dragon, I'm here to make you look stupid by comparison :smalltongue:. Just kidding here.

Blazing sword was the first fire emblem released in America, that is the one I vote for.

Edit: *sigh* Okay.

[Inhuman Bot]

+1 for Sacred Stones, my personal favorite.
aka, gogo twincest squad

[Gorgondantess]

Shadow dragon is boring mode. Guess I could only appreciate the game after I killed off all the useless units (Hey, the game practically rewards you for it) and got things done. But I digress. I'm not here to trash on shadow dragon, I'm here to make you look stupid by comparison :smalltongue:. Just kidding here.

Blazing sword was the first fire emblem released in America, that is the one I vote for.

Edit: *sigh* Okay.

Meh. Nothing compares to the pure, pure brutality of Fire Emblem. (I refuse to call it by its slave full name.)
Though, I agree with you on Shadow Dragon. It's already easy, the story is bland and glazed over, and you feel no connection to the units: they never speak, except for Marth, and they encourage you to kill them! It's supposed to be harrowing when one dies, not necessary.:smallannoyed:


+1 for Sacred Stones, my personal favorite.
aka, gogo twincest squad
Oh, boy, I'm definitely going to have to milk that one for all it's worth.:smallwink:
(Well, if Sacred Stones takes the win, that is)

[Inhuman Bot]

Meh. Nothing compares to the pure, pure brutality of Fire Emblem. (I refuse to call it by its slave full name.)
Though, I agree with you on Shadow Dragon. It's already easy, the story is bland and glazed over, and you feel no connection to the units: they never speak, except for Marth, and they encourage you to kill them! It's supposed to be harrowing when one dies, not necessary.:smallannoyed:
)

Not for FE 1.

This was before the makers realized people cared about their units.

They were SUPPOSED to be generic grunts, with several replacements lineing up at the door to take their place if they died.

Also, if SS takes the win, don't use Joshua, please.

I'm pretty sure useing a hacking device would be harder then useing Joshua.

[Gorgondantess]

Not for FE 1.

This was before the makers realized people cared about their units.

They were SUPPOSED to be generic grunts, with several replacements lineing up at the door to take their place if they died.

Also, if SS takes the win, don't use Joshua, please.

I'm pretty sure useing a hacking device would be harder then useing Joshua.

Okay, sure... but it's a remake. Shouldn't it be modified to be more fitting to today's crowd? And if that was their intention, they rather failed. I really liked Horace. It's almost enough for me to invest precious, precious xp in him. Actually, I'm still debating on that...:smallconfused:

...And I like Joshua. Besides, it's not like he's the god that is Ephraim (1st playthrough he maxed out 5 stats). Or Ewan.:smallamused:

[Kasanip]

I am playing SnK at the moment, so maybe RnK? :smallsmile:

I am playing Sacred Stones at the moment, so maybe Blazing Sword? :smallsmile:

[Gorgondantess]

I am playing SnK at the moment, so maybe RnK? :smallsmile:

...I'm sorry, but I'm not aware as to the meaning of those TLAs. >.>

[shadowxknight]

+1 Vote for Sacred Stones...

Let the incest jokes commence!

[Belobog]

Fire Emblem. Hector Hard Mode. Final Destination.

Shadow Dragon might have been worth it if they packaged it with III. And included Supports. And punched up the story, the dialogue, and the general character involvement.

[Gorgondantess]

Fire Emblem. Hector Hard Mode. Final Destination.
Won't be doing hector, like I said, unless there's overwhelming support for it, as I'd have to unlock it first: I'll be using a blank copy. Though, if I could, that's definitely what I'd try.


Shadow Dragon might have been worth it if they packaged it with III. And included Supports. And punched up the story, the dialogue, and the general character involvement.
Yes, and removed the tempting succubi that is the save spots. No, I won't use them for actual saving, just RNG abuse here and there... yes, yes, that's it.:smalleek:

[Belobog]

Won't be doing hector, like I said, unless there's overwhelming support for it, as I'd have to unlock it first: I'll be using a blank copy. Though, if I could, that's definitely what I'd try.

If you feel up to it. I personally feel Hector makes the better protagonist, as opposed to Eliwood, and his levels are more challenging, but if the copy's blank, then it's going to be a while before you even get to that point.


Yes, and removed the tempting succubi that is the save spots. No, I won't use them for actual saving, just RNG abuse here and there... yes, yes, that's it.:smalleek:

I wish that worked for me. Tried I dunno how many times to have the Pegasus Knight get a point of Str, but nope, she just won't take it.

[Gorgondantess]

If you feel up to it. I personally feel Hector makes the better protagonist, as opposed to Eliwood, and his levels are more challenging, but if the copy's blank, then it's going to be a while before you even get to that point.
Totally agree with you on that. Lyn is nice, and Hector is cool, but Eliwood is just bland- one of they few things I dislike about Fire Emblem.




I wish that worked for me. Tried I dunno how many times to have the Pegasus Knight get a point of Str, but nope, she just won't take it.

Yeah? I looked at the stat growths in a manual, and I'm getting some really odd strength growths... as is, Caeda has more strength than Abel, Navarre is double hitting for about 22 damage each with an iron sword, and Merric's highest stat is magic. And those were the ones I wasn't RNG abusing.:smallconfused:

[Lord Seth]

I vote for GhebFE.

[Gorgondantess]

I vote for GhebFE.

...Once again... Acronyms....:smalleek::smallconfused:

[Zevox]

I'll toss out a vote for Sacred Stones. Blazing Sword (just "Fire Emblem" in the west) is the superior game, no two ways about it, but Sacred Stones has better comedy material (I believe the twincest has been mentioned already, for starters), plus I haven't been able to finish a play of it myself for a while now. I always seem to get bored by chapter 13 or so. Where I've played through Blazing Sword numerous times over the years since it was released, I've only ever finished Sacred Stones once, so it'll be more interesting for me to read a Let's Play of that one.

Zevox

[Lord Seth]

...Once again... Acronyms....:smalleek::smallconfused:What about acronyms?

[Gorgondantess]

What about acronyms?

GhebFE means nothing to me.

[Lord Seth]

GhebFE means nothing to me.That's its name: GhebFE. It's a hilariously twisted patch for Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones. My suggestion was obviously a bit tongue-in-cheek though it would be funny to see someone Let's Play it.

[Gorgondantess]

That's its name: GhebFE. It's a hilariously twisted patch for Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones. My suggestion was obviously a bit tongue-in-cheek though it would be funny to see someone Let's Play it.

Huh. I'll have to check that one out... though I don't think I'll be LPing it, sorry.

[Vitruviansquid]

I've played Sacred Stones, so I'm voting for the other one.

That said, I've seen no mention of this in the OP, so... are you playing Ironman style? No restarting a mission just because too many grunts died and under no circumstances can your Lord die. :smallsigh:

[Wreckingrocc]

Fire Emblem just won't be the same without Marcus and making fun of him.

Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword (Fire Emblem).

Also, I'm totally voting for Marcus to be in our party of 12. Also, for mages... Nino? I guess she's really a final addition, but... Still worth considering.

[SlyGuyMcFly]

I don't know what a TLA is, so maybe we are equal :smallredface:


Three Letter Acronym. Seriously.

I don't really care either way, having not played either of the games.

[Altaria87]

I'm going to vote for FE8 (Sacred Stones), just because I've only ever played it once, also Valter will die >:)

[Prime32]

Going to vote for Sacred Stones, just because of Jack Sparrow Joshua and Haruhi L'Arachel.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd54/Prime32_temp/OotS/oots_eirika.png

[Inhuman Bot]

Okay, sure... but it's a remake. Shouldn't it be modified to be more fitting to today's crowd? And if that was their intention, they rather failed. I really liked Horace. It's almost enough for me to invest precious, precious xp in him. Actually, I'm still debating on that...:smallconfused:

...And I like Joshua. Besides, it's not like he's the god that is Ephraim (1st playthrough he maxed out 5 stats). Or Ewan.:smallamused:

Keyword. "Remake"


I don't know what a TLA is, so maybe we are equal :smallredface:

Seima no Kōseki (Fire Emblem 08 - "The Sacred Stones")
Rekka no Ken​ (Fire Emblem 07 - "The Blazing Sword")

Is it wrong to get annoyed when people use the non-NA acronym for a game when the majority of people are useing the NA one?

[Lord Seth]

Keyword. "Remake"



Is it wrong to get annoyed when people use the non-NA acronym for a game when the majority of people are useing the NA one?I don't think so.

[Kasanip]

Is it wrong to get annoyed when people use the non-NA acronym for a game when the majority of people are useing the NA one?

I apologize for offending you :smallfrown:. I don't often use the North American acronym, and couldn't remember it when I was posting quickly from leaving school. I tried to correct my mistake later at home by posting with the full information. I've deleted the offending post.

[Platinius]

Take Fire Emblem, play Hard Mode, with Hector, and when you succeed, cry tears of purest joy, I did too.

[Inhuman Bot]

I apologize for offending you :smallfrown:. I don't often use the North American acronym, and couldn't remember it when I was posting quickly from leaving school. I tried to correct my mistake later at home by posting with the full information. I've deleted the offending post.

No, no, it's fine. I said "Annoyed". I get annoyed when my dog sheds on my pants after I put him on my lap, but I don't throw him outside when he does that.

So yeah, no worries. :smalltongue:

[Makensha]

My nostalgia factor for FE is much higher than SS, so Fire Emblem.

And it wasn't THAT hard. It isn't like I got to the last level and then realized I needed some crucial characters I had killed off earlier.

[SephlidJam]

I'd say Fire Emblem... well, okay, the coin I flipped said Fire Emblem, but still. :smalltongue:

[Gorgondantess]

Fire Emblem just won't be the same without Marcus and making fun of him.

Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword (Fire Emblem).

Also, I'm totally voting for Marcus to be in our party of 12. Also, for mages... Nino? I guess she's really a final addition, but... Still worth considering.

:smalleek:
...Marcus? No. Noooo. No Jeigans in my party. Thank god nobody else will be sadistic enough to vote for him... hopefully.
And it'll be either Pent or Erk. Nino is too far into the game, and I don't like the animation for the female sage.

Also, in the future, for all those concerned, please, please don't use japanese game names/character names. I don't know them. At all.

Anyways, Fire Emblem is the victor, with ten votes to 6! I'll be playing through it and uploading screenshots soon. Now, for posterity's sake, I'll be opening up voting for Kent or Sain. Or both. Or neither. I'll update the votes to the OP. Please tell me what you wan't, and what you don't want.

Oh, and also: if you have any suggestions for Tactician name/gender/sign, I'm all ears.:smallbiggrin:

[Flickerdart]

Neither. Cavaliers are the best 1st-stage unit in the game and so we can't have you using them.

[Smiling Knight]

Noooo! I was too late...

Very well, I shall have my revenge! For late-game cavalier you must use...
Lowen!

And for now, Sain. He's funnier.

[Belobog]

Neither. Cavaliers are the best 1st-stage unit in the game and so we can't have you using them.

Seconded. Also, Monks/Shamans only.

This includes the no Cleric/Troubador rules.

[Gorgondantess]

Neither, neither, Sain... hm. I'm liking this. Personally, I prefer not to use the dynamic duo, so it works out well.
No suggestions for tactician stats? Pity. I'll have to be boring.:smallwink:

[Belobog]

Noooo! I was too late...

Very well, I shall have my revenge! For late-game cavalier you must use...
Lowen!

See, for me, I kill him. Like, every time. It's become a ritual that must not be broken.


Neither, neither, Sain... hm. I'm liking this. Personally, I prefer not to use the dynamic duo, so it works out well.
No suggestions for tactician stats? Pity. I'll have to be boring.:smallwink:

Hermaphroditic duck Amadeus, some month that gives Darkness, up to you. Would also accept Faust.

[shadowxknight]

I vote for Sain! One of my favorite characters in the series. His supports never fail to make me crack up.

[Gorgondantess]

While the voting goes on, I'll do our first installment.

2003
Nintendo Presents, and one skipped opening (all of that information will be revealed in game)...
http://img.brothersoft.com/screenshots/softimage/f/fire_emblem-173682-2.jpeg
And the eponymous tune played. Of course, it's kindof disconcerting hearing it past the first few chords and not seeing the flash and ping, signifying you've started the game: I've reset this game more times than I can count, skipping past the opening. Might as well savor the full experience now, that picture of the sword and axe will haunt me in my dreams.

So, one menu later, and apparently I'm a tactician travelling across Elibe named Mark. Screw that.

http://i46.tinypic.com/dmta9i.jpg

That's what I used for my information my 1st playthrough, when I was a foolish little noob to Fire Emblem, never used to Lords and relied solely on Erk and Marcus. >.<



Prologue: A Girl From the Plains

??: Are you awake?

http://i45.tinypic.com/35m0311.jpg

??, aka Girl, aka Lyn is of the Lorca tribe. Other than talking about herself, the first thing she says is that my name sounds odd. My, how polite. I suppose she can say whatever we want, seeing as she rescued me, but I wouldn't put it past a hermit with an oddly fine complexion and rude, name-ist attitude to have caused the whole 'unconscious on the planes' schtick to begin with.

Well, okay, she turns around and apologizes, says it's a good name, etcetera, and bandits strike! Deciding to stop them from raiding merchants and kicking puppies and whatnot, she also decides to bring me along so I can tell her what to do, being a tactician. And, as a tutorial, what follows is a lot of her telling you what to tell her to do. Boring, and pretty much scripted.

http://i48.tinypic.com/292vbig.jpg

Well, here's the battlefield. We have the baddies in red, and Lyn in blue. She kills the mook, heals up, fights the named mook, stupidly attacks him without waiting for him to attack and her retaliate, thus healing up the next turn, crits, kills him. Yawn. The only exciting thing is, when I leveled, I got a boost to hp, strength, skill, speed, and luck. Pretty nice.
In the end, though, this sequence isn't story important at all, and there's no strategy involved, nor luck. Just a tutorial.
So, we head back to her house- I suppose I'm just some kind of vagrant, without a home of my own to go to- and we bed down for the night. The next morning, she wants to come with me, and we get a story about how her parents were killed, and her whole tribe, etcetera. Really, this whole first sequence is kinda skippable: I would've been satisfied with, 'You meet Lyn in a bar, then come across Kent and Sain, one of the many dramatic foil duos!'

Next time: Footsteps of fate, and some kinda trite but very amusing characters.

Anyways, sorry about the bare-bones intro: I'll be getting into things in more detail with the next installment.
EDIT: sorry 'bout the weird pictures, don't upload much... I'll work on fixing that.:smallredface:

[Gorgondantess]

Footsteps of Fate:

We open up with the current main lord's sprite on the map, and a small summary of what happens on the way to the next destination. This is how every level in the game will begin, and it's where the game starts to pick up.
http://i50.tinypic.com/2n8wjv7.jpg

A strange pair on an even stranger journey. To prepare for the long road ahead, they go to Bulgar, the commercial center of Sacae. Unbeknownst to Lyn, she will discover something that will alter her life forever.
Oooh. Subtle foreshadowing.:smallwink:
So, we're shown the edge of a city, which opens up to am forest. It then cuts to inside the city, and the talking head of Lyn. She goes on to recap the commercial importance of Bulgar, and that they will be purchasing supplies to stock up for their journey. What a recap: Elan would be proud.
But then, from the distance, a voice, likely oozing with smarmy, lecherous charm:

Oh, my heart! What a dazzling vision of loveliness!
Why, yes, I am quite attractive, thank y- oh, wait, he's talking to Lyn. >.>
She is subsequently accosted by a dashing vision of nigh-creepster proportions.
http://i50.tinypic.com/2ls6rk3.jpg

Sain: Would you not favor me with your name? Or better yet, your company?
Lyn: Where are you from, sir knight, that speaks so freely to a stranger?
Very freely. Makes me wonder just what he means by 'company'.:smalltongue:

Sain: Ha! I thought you'd never ask!
Because at this point most women are reaching for their mace. Or the fantasy equivalent thereof.:smallamused:

Sain: I am from Lycia. I hail from the Caelin canton, home to men of passion and fire!
Lyn: Shouldn't that be "Home to callow oafs with loose tongues"?
You've gotta love the dialog.

Sain: Ooooh... You're even lovelier when you're cruel.
You've really gotta love the dialog.:smallbiggrin:

Lyn: Let's go, Sade. I've nothing more to say.
I as well. I'm not quite sure whether I'm repulsed, charmed or aroused. Likely a mix of the 3.:smallwink:

Sain: Wait! Please...
http://i48.tinypic.com/330d8na.jpg
A newcomer! What a dazzling depiction of your average stick up the ass.

Sain: Ah, Kent! My boon companion! Why so severe an expression?
Stick up the assKent: If your manner were more serious, I wouldn't have to be so severe! We still have a mission to complete, Sain!
Sain: I know that. But how could I remain silent in the presence of such a beauty? It would have been discourteous!
Kent: What do you know of courtesy!?
Lyn (returning): Excuse me! You're blocking the road. If you would be so kind as to move your horses...
Kent: Of course. My apologies...
Lyn: Thank you. You, at least, seem honorable.
Kent: Hm? Pardon me, but... I feel we've met before.
Isn't that Sain's line?

Lyn: I beg your pardon?
Sain: Hey! No fair, Kent! I saw her first!
Lyn: Tsk! It seems there are no decent men among Lycia's knights! Let's go, Sade! I'm out of patience!
Kent: Wait, please! It's not like that.
......
Sain, you lout!
Sain: Huh? Not like that? I thought you were...
Kent: I am NOT you!!!
Obviously.


Kent: Come, we must follow her. I suspect she might be--
Sain: Be what? Wait, she's our mission? You're joking! Wait!
Fade to black...
But then:
http://i48.tinypic.com/1zxqjoz.jpg

Lyn: Could it be those knights from town? No... it's not them. These men are out for blood!
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And we officicially have a guy creepier than Sain. Congratulations, Nintendo, you've outdone yourself once more.

Creepy Guy: Your name is Lyndis, is it not?
Lyn: What did you call me? ...Who are you?
Creepy Guy: Such a waste. An absolute waste. The things I'll do for gold... Ah, well. Time to die, darlin'! C'mon out, boys!
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Oh, snap! If only some armed and armored men who had an interest in me were nearby...
[quote]Hey, there she is!
Lyn: Huh?
Creepy Guy: Whuh?
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Sain: Hold! You there! What is your business? Such numbers against a girl? Cowards, every one of you!
Lyn: You! You're from--
Kent: We can discuss that later. It appears these ruffians mean to do you harm. If it's a fight they want, let them look to me!
Sain: stand back! I'll take care of this!
Lyn: No! This is my fight! Stay out of my way!
...Y'know, I'd like to see them say "Okay, sure. Go ahead and do nasty things to her, boys." One moment she's bemoaning the fact she's outnumbered, and the next she's turning away reinforcements. We call that "too dumb to live.":smalltongue:

Sain: Well, I can't just stand here doing nothing...
Kent: I have a solution. You there, command us. I am Kent, a knight of Lycia. My companion is Sain. We will follow your orders in this battle. Is this acceptable, milady?
Lyn: Yes, it is. Sade and I will lead! Let's go!
Girl, I will be doing the leading. Just shut up and do what I say, and I might just throw you a nice juicy chunk of precious, precious xp.

So, yay! Reinforcements! Which I will incidentally likely not be using. Actually, I think I'll let them die. Yes. That's nice. And when Sain is looking up at me, below a bandit's axe, asking "Why? Why would you let this happen?" I'll blame you folks. Unless, of course, someone manages to break the tie in Sain's favor. Then it will be just Kent that dies.
Mmmmyep. I'm a damn good tactician.

And so, the battle begins.
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Sain: O fair and beauteous one!
Yes, what would you like?

And... Sade, is it?
...:smallannoyed:

Sain: Allow me to show you the might of a knight of Lycia! Let me be the first to strike a blow in your honor!
Oh, by all means. Go ahead and grab some juicy, juicy xp. This'll be fun: you're the one I'll be training, after all!
(Those who have played the game should be cringing by now.:smallsigh:)
So, we go through with a recap on how to attack enemies, as a prelude for the next part of the tutorial. Sain runs up to an axe wielding mook, and decides to attack him with a lance.
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Look at those numbers at the bottom. The first is % to hit, the second is damage, and the third is % to critical. The bandit, who normally can't hit the broadside of the barn, was able to hit Sain, while Sain missed. This part is scripted, by the way, so we can get some more tutorial.

Sain: Whoah! I missed?!
Kent: Sain! Why aren't you using your sword?
Sain: The lance is more heroic. A knight should look heroic, don't you think?
After all, style trumps practicality every time. Except when Nintendo doesn't want it to.:smallsigh:

Kent: You're hopeless. If you don't take fighting more seriously, you're going to find yourself on the end of a blade!
Sain: Truth be told, I... forgot to buy a sword.
Ahhhh. The plot thickens.

Kent: Forgot? Or were you simply too busy dallying with the ladies?
Sain: Don't be so mad! I'll be fine with a lance. I'm that good!
Kent: I'd prefer to rely on your skill, not your empty bragging! Take my spare blade and use it to attack next time!
Sain: Are you sure? My thanks, Kent!
Kent: You're almost more trouble than you're worth. Almost.
Well, hey, we need to get our comic relief somewhere.

Kent: Sade! Allow me to make up for my companion's blunder. I am at your command!
Okay, so the reason Sain missed was because of the weapons triangle. Swords are good against axes, axes are good against lances, and lances are good against swords. When you have the disadvantage, you get minus 10% to hit and -1 to damage, and when you have the advantage you get +10% to hit and +1 to damage. Nifty.
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That's more like it. Of course, that also means that Kent is hogging up all the xp. Generally, when you're the same level as an enemy, hitting them without killing them gives you 10 xp, killing them gives you 30, and doing no damage or missing them entirely gives you 1. 100 xp gives you a level up. And, as I have made very clear, xp is finite.
What does this mean? It means that I'm being forced to give the xp to Kent (destined to die) instead of Sain (One of the lucky few I'll be using).
And this is why I hate forced tutorials.

Kent: He's almost defeated. Now, let's deliver the final blow!
And Lyn proceeds to hand the wounded Bandit's ass to him, double hitting with her quite impressive speed. At this point, Kent and Sain are too slow to attack twice, though I intend to change that (On Sain's part, at least.)

Sain: Sade! Let me attack now!
Oh, good, we're finally going to get some action with Sain, get him some more juicy xp.
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Okay, now that just pisses me off. He had an 87% chance to hit, with an extra hidden bonus from his luck, yet somehow missed. Grrr.:smallmad:

Sain: Gah!
Kent: Sain! Are you alright?
Witty remark about being better than alright in 3... 2...

Sain: Yes. Yes I am. I was able to dodge in time.
...Awww.:smallfrown:

Sain: I can't believe he evaded my sword stroke so easily.
Neither can I, good buddy.:smallsigh:

Sain: This is no jest.
Kent: Look closely. The enemy is hidden in the woods. The branches make it difficult to attack, don't they?
Oh, right. More tutorial scripting. Bastard Nintendo.

Sain: You're right, I was so focused on attacking... I didn't see.
Kent: Your lack of attention may someday cost you your life!
And Kent's lack of personality will surely cost him his.:smallcool:

Sain: Fine! I understand already! Let it go, Kent!
Kent: If you truly understand, then act like it!
Sain: Kent worries too much.
Well, he has good reason to... today is not a good day to have a stick up your ass.

Sain:...He's going to grow old before his time.
....Nawww, too easy.

Kent: I'm ready for battle. Command me as you will!
Well, I would command you to not steal any more xp, but don't worry Kent, you'll get yours soon enough.
So, Kent goes over and attack the bandit, using the cover of the woods, and...
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Flying Bandit Attack!


Okay, so, the bandit misses, Kent hits, steals more precious xp, the bastard. So, yeah, woods give you cover: -20% to attack and -1 to damage against an enemy in a forest square.

Lyn: It seems like a wise decision to leave that bandit to the knights.
So, more scripting, more no control, the bandit attacks Kent, allowing him to retaliate and take more precious xp (the current total is Sain with 2, and Kent with 30), and the turn begins again, and more scripting!

Lyn: You... your name is Sain, right?
Sain: Yes! Sain, the gallant man of Caelin. That's me!
Lyn: If you insist... Why have you not healed yourself?
Sain: Huh? Hey! I've been injured?
'Tis but a flesh wound. Sorry- knee jerk reaction.

Sain: What a cad I am! To wrinkle that perfect brow of yours with worry for me...
Lyn: Uh... I was thinking of giving you a vulnerary, but... It looks like you're fine. So, never you mind.
Sain: No, wait! I'll take it! Please! I'll take it!
So, we're taught how to trade items, and I believe here Nintendo finally gives over the reins, once and for all. Well, at least for the remainder of this battle...:smallsigh:
Well, anyways, I'll use that newfound knowledge of trading to have Kent give Sain all his weapons, so he can't retaliate and steal any more xp.

So, we level up Lyn, and she gets a rather mediocre boost:
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And we work on Kent's comeuppance.
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Kent: Lady Lyndis, Sade. I'm no good to you in this condition. My apologies, but I must withdraw.
Oh... right. For plot important characters, when they 'die', they're just crippled: they can't fight any more, but we still see them in the cut scenes and such. Still, at least that'll prevent him from stealing xp during this story.

So, Sain kills creepy guy (who is apparently named Zugu) and he has the underwhelming dying words of "Blast... There was only... supposed to be... a lone... girl..."
And, more importantly than some murdered guy, Sain levels up, and gets a speed boost!
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Speed, by the way, is my favorite stat. If you have significantly higher speed
than your enemy, you'll attack twice in one melee, and it contributes to your evasion- units with high speed don't need much defense, as the enemies will miss all the time.
He also gets a strength boost- not surprising, as it's his best stat- and his two lowest stats, skill and resistance get a boost. Skill gives a bonus to hit percentage, and resistance acts as defense against magic enemies. Not bad, all in all.

Lyn: That's the last of them! Fantastic work, Sade!
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Let's kill them!

Lyn: You were going to share your story with me?
Awww. Well, I suppose we can keep the charming one in green.


Kent: Yes. We have ventured from Caelin, in Lycia, in search of someone.
Lyn: Lycia... that's the country beyond the mountains in the southwest, isn't it?
Kent: Correct. We've come as messengers to the lady Madelyn, who eloped with a nomad some 19 years ago.
Lyn: Madelyn?
Kent: Our lord the marquess of Caelin's only daughter. He was heartbroken his daughter would abandon him so. Eventually, the marquess simply declared that he had no daughter.
Sain: And then this year, we received a letter from Lady Madelyn. It said that she, her husband, and their daughter were living happily on the Sacae plains. The marquess was ecstatic to learn he had a granddaughter of 18 years. I remember the smile on his face when he announced that he'd suddenly become a grandfather. The granddaughter's name is Lyndis. This was also the name of the marquess's wife, who passed away at an early age.
Lyn: Lyndis?
Sain: That she should bear this name thawed the marquess's heart. Now, his only wish is to meet his daughter's family at least once. This is why we're here. We didn't know that Lady Madelyn died a few days after sending her letter... We only learned this shortly after we arrived here in Bulgar.
Kent: But we also learned all was not lost. Her daughter yet lives. We heard she was living alone on the plains... I... I knew it immediately. You are the Lady Lyndis.
Lyn: Why would you think that...
Kent: Your resemblance to your departed mother is remarkable.
Lyn: What? Did you know my mother?
Kent: I'm sorry to say I never met her directly, but I saw her portraits in Caste Caelin.
Lyn: To the rest of my tribe, I was always Lyn. But when I was with my parents... when it was just the three of us, I was Lyndis. It's all so strange. I was all alone in the world, and now I have a grandfather. Lyndis... I never thought I would hear that name again.
And so, Lyn heads off with Sain and Kent to Castle Caelin. The marquess welcomes her with open arms, and she lives there the rest of her life in-

Wait! That bandit! He called me Lyndis, too!
Kent: What? Could he have--
Sain: He was a henchman of Lord Lundgren, wasn't he?
Just by that name, you can tell he's an antagonist. Just say it out loud. Lundgren.

Lyn: Lundgren? Who's that?
Kent: He's the marquess's younger brother. Everyone assumed the lady Madelyn was gone forever. This made Lord Lundgren heir to the marquess's title.
Sain: To be blunt, milady, your existence is an obstacle to your granduncle's ambitions.
Lyn: That's-- But I have no interest in inheriting any title!
Sain: Unfortunately, your granduncle is not the sort of man to believe that. I believe the attempts on your life will persist.
Lyn: What should I do?
Kill the guy and take your place at the marquess's side to rule the galaxy country as Granddaddy and Granddaughter!

Kent: Accompany us to Caelin. Continuing on this way is dangerous.
Okay, I guess that one's okay too.

Lyn: I feel I have little choice. I will go with you.

Lyn: Sade... I'm sorry. This changes everything. What will you do, Sade? You... want me to decide? Of course, your companionship would much ease my journey, but... It's going to be so dangerous.
And that why you need me along, as someone who understands the intricacies of the wonderful xp system. Kill mooks, grow strong.

Lyn: You'll come? Are you sure? Thank you! Let me ask you once again for your friendship and your aid.

Oh, and as an aside: let's sneer at Kent's pain, the xp hogging whore.

Lyn: Kent! Should you be up?
Kent: I'm fine. Please forgive me earlier behavior. The injury to my right leg was more serious than I thought.
Lyn: Ah! That's terrible!
Kent: I apologize for my negligence.
Lyn: You should find someplace to rest and heal your wound.
Kent: No. We must hurry and move onwards.
Lyn: But--
Kent: Milady, my goal is to present you to the marquess as quickly as possible. I'm unable to fight, and I may slow you down, but... Please allow me to continue travelling with you.
Lyn: Of course. I understand. we go together. However, you mustn't overexert yourself. If your injury grows graver, I will force you to stop and rest!
Kent: I understand. Thank you.
I pray it becomes infected and kills him.:smallbiggrin:
Well, that's it for chapter one. Stay tuned next time for Chapter 2: Sword of Spirits!

[Inhuman Bot]

I'm sorry Kent, I really am. I like Sain more, plain and simple.

You're poor growth will trouble me no more. :smalltongue:

[Altaria87]

I vote for Sain as well :smallsmile:

[Gorgondantess]

Well, then, it seems we have a cavalier!
Don't worry, folks who want this to be brutally hard on me: you'll get your chance when you can vote down Serra.:smalltongue:

[Altaria87]

Serra's my third favourite character in this game =O
The other two are Erk and Lucius, with Raven and Rath short afterwards

[Gorgondantess]

Okay, so, episode 2 is officially done. And very long. I've edited it into my original post for episode 2, and a link to it on the first page.

[Altaria87]

Woah, when you said you'd kill Kent, you weren't kidding :smalleek:
I like it :smallcool:

[Gorgondantess]

Woah, when you said you'd kill Kent, you weren't kidding :smalleek:
I like it :smallcool:

Actually, Kent is effectively immortal: in fact, when we get to Eliwood's story, he comes back, and I'll have to 'kill' him again. It will be satisfying.:smallcool:

[Raroy]

Woah, woah, woah. Permanently killing units!? If you let your guys die then how can you say you've truly won? Not exactly good tactics there.

I personally never let my units die (bar shadow dragon). Seems a bit malicious to me. How are you going to beat that early defense mission anyway?

[Gorgondantess]

Woah, woah, woah. Permanently killing units!? If you let your guys die then how can you say you've truly won? Not exactly good tactics there.

I personally never let my units die (bar shadow dragon). Seems a bit malicious to me. How are you going to beat that early defense mission anyway?

Pfffft. I've gone through the game lords-only before. This is Lyn's story, on normal. Not too hard.
And I killed him off because I thought it would be entertaining. He'll come back in Eliwood's story, anyways.

[Belobog]

For using Sain (henceforth known as 'taking Easy Street'), you should use Isadora from the moment you get her until the end of the game. She should replace another, better unit, and if she dies, you have to restart.

Unless we'll be killing him in Eliwood's story, then all is forgiven.

[Gorgondantess]

For using Sain (henceforth known as 'taking Easy Street'), you should use Isadora from the moment you get her until the end of the game. She should replace another, better unit, and if she dies, you have to restart.

Unless we'll be killing him in Eliwood's story, then all is forgiven.

Well, when we get to Isadora, you can vote for her, and if we have enough votes, I'll use her.:smallwink:
Really, though, I killed Kent, who could've made good cannon fodder. What more do you want?:smalleek:

[Smiling Knight]

So, for Raven, we should plan ahead: ho yay with Lucius or incest with Pricisilla?

[Gorgondantess]

Knowing this crowd, he'll likely be voted down. Raven's too good.
But, if we manage him, and have both Priscilla and Lucius, I say go for the ho yay. Sacred Stones has the incest part covered.:smallwink:

[Altaria87]

Definately the Ho Yay :smallbiggrin:

[Belobog]

Well, when we get to Isadora, you can vote for her, and if we have enough votes, I'll use her.:smallwink:
Really, though, I killed Kent, who could've made good cannon fodder. What more do you want?:smalleek:

Quite simple, Mr. Bond; I want you to suffer.
It's funnier that way. :smalltongue:


Definately the Ho Yay :smallbiggrin:

Thirded.

[tribble]

good thing you aren't playing Radiant Dawn, this lot would make you play with meg and fiona and such...

[Mirrinus]

is i 2 late 4 FE4 vote?

But seriously now, no using Oswin. He's just too godly. Use Wallace instead! Which means keeping the levels of your Lords low, so you get access to Lloyd's map instead of Linus's. But that's worth it to obtain the power of the bald one!

And just a head's up, I may devolve into Pent fanboy mode somewhere down the line...

Anyway, all this talk about what units to use always reminds me of that old parody song I wrote...

What Fire Emblem Class Are You? (Parody of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDNzyytIw24))

What Fire Emblem class are you?
How do you do the things you do?
Share with me your secrets deep inside.
What Fire Emblem class are you?
Are you loyal through and through?
Do you have a heart that's true?
What Fire Emblem class are you?

Take an axe unit like Pirate Dart,
Against a dodgy Thief, would be a tough start.
Speed is key for a Myrmidon's attack,
Till you ding your sword on a Knight's strong back.

What Fire Emblem class are you?
How do you do the things you do?

Don't you bug me with your Shaman's Flux.
For a Pegasus Knight they're like sitting ducks.
Take care with Wil and his Archer's range.
To snipe a Wyvern Rider, it's not so strange.

What Fire Emblem class are you?
How do you do the things you do?
Share with me your secrets deep inside.
What Fire Emblem class are you?
Are you loyal through and through?
Do you have a heart that's true?
What Fire Emblem class are you?

Reach higher with Fighters, good luck with their speed.
Against Mercenaries, it's quite a need.
Triangle advantage is a Cavalier's win,
But a Mage's assault could do them in.

What Fire Emblem class are you?
How do you do the things you do?

Lucius is key if Monk's your thing,
And Troubadours also use a Guiding Ring.
Nomads don't offer much variety,
But promotion's the solution for victory!

What Fire Emblem class are you?
How do you do the things you do?
Share with me your secrets deep inside.
What Fire Emblem class are you?
Are you loyal through and through?
Do you have a heart that's true?
What Fire Emblem class are you?

Keep on training so you're stronger and faster!
Just can't stop, 'cause it's Nergal we're after!
My plan is this...gotta' save the land!
Joining with Eliwood's band!

What Fire Emblem class are you?
How do you do the things you do?
Share with me your secrets deep inside.
What Fire Emblem class are you?
Are you loyal through and through?
Do you have a heart that's true?
What Fire Emblem class are you?

I'd post my other song (my FE7 version of Weird Al's The Saga Begins), but it spoils the entire plot of FE7, so I'll refrain for now. Maybe later.

[Gorgondantess]

But seriously now, no using Oswin. He's just too godly. Use Wallace instead! Which means keeping the levels of your Lords low, so you get access to Lloyd's map instead of Linus's. But that's worth it to obtain the power of the bald one!
Actually, I generally would prefer to use neither of them. As I said before, speed is my favorite stat: generals... well, they don't tend to have it in droves.:smallwink:


And just a head's up, I may devolve into Pent fanboy mode somewhere down the line...

Don't worry. I love Pent too.:smalltongue:

Nice song, by the way.

[tribble]

Actually, I generally would prefer to use neither of them. As I said before, speed is my favorite stat: generals... well, they don't tend to have it in droves.:smallwink:


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Oh, Hi! what's up? I couldn't hear you over the sound of my maxed-out speed.

[Gorgondantess]

A small altar lies on the outskirts of Bulgar. This ancient temple, sacred to the people of Sacae, has long been known for its powerful bond to the world of spirits.
Before starting their journey, our travelers came here to pray for their well being. At this altar, Lyn's hand is directed to a grand inheritance.


Chapter 2: Sword of Spirits


Lyn: Sade, hold a moment, and allow me a short detour. There is a sacred sword enshrined in an altar east of here.
Let's steal it!

The people of Sacae go there to pray for safety at the onset of a long journey.
I have the strange feeling we'll be finding a dearth of this "safety" you speak of.

Sain: Oh! How Quaint!
Kent: The teaching of Elimine have the most followers in Elibe. It's nice to see that, here at least, ancient customs are still observed.

Meanwhile, at the shrine...
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Old Man: Threaten as you will, but I'll not give up the Mani Katti. The Mani Katti is a sacred blade, under divine protection. It cannot be removed from its place of rest!
Ugly Man: You're a fool, old man. What good's a sword if you don't use it?
Actually, I find myself agreeing with him there. Let your blade be freed from its prison of leather and steel to find its home in your enemy's flesh!:smallbiggrin:

Old Man: Use it? In combat? Sacrilege!
Ugly Man: Sacrilege? I am Glass!
But you'll always be my Ugly man. Well, until Lyn and Sain inevitably murder you in cold blood and the next Ugly Man comes around.

Ugly Man: The gods fear my name! My swordplay is peerless! And if I want this sword, then this sword I shall have! Now, get out of my way! (Moves forwards, apparently punching the old guy. Or something.)
Old Man: Oof!
Ugly Man: Yeah, and then give me that puppy! I want to kick it!

Ugly Man: This is it! It's more magnificent than I'd imagined! This sword was made for a swordsman of my skill. Hmm? What's this? I can't... draw the sword... from it's scabbard?
Y'know, that begs the question, how could he tell that it was such an awesome blade if 90% of it was covered up? He couldn't even tell if it was well balanced, as the weight of the scabbard would throw that off. I suppose the hilt was just really really really comfy.

Old Man: The spirits of the blades have judged you. You have been found wanting. They have rejected you.
Ugly Man: What? Listen, you senile old fool, if you value your own life, you'll get out of my sight!
Ugly Man: And where's that puppy I asked for!?

Ugly Man: Curses! Miserable spirits! I care nothing for you! I'll tear this altar down stone by stone.
Y'know, Ugly Man doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to tear it down stone by stone- he'd just beat on it 'till he got tired, then whine a bit, and maybe go kick some puppies to vent his frustration.
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So, green lady runs over to our heroes and-
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WOW. She's a lot better looking in sprite form.:smalleek:

Old Woman:Are you headed east? To the altar?
Lyn: Yes, we are indeed.
Old Woman: Then you must hurry. I saw a band of local ruffians head in there long ago. They seemed intent on stealing the altar's sacred sword!
Lyn: The Mani Katti... they're going to steal it?
Damn, they beat us to the punch. Well, might as well just head on.

Lyn: I cannot allow this to happen!
Old Woman: You look like a virtuous group. Please, help him!
Sain: Lyndis, what are you planning?
To stick them like pigs, slit their warty throats and drink their blood.:smallsmile:

Kent: If you hope to go to the priest's aid, you'll need to prepare.
Lyn: You're right...
Say, Sade... There are some homes to the south of us. Perhaps we should go there and question the residents.
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Our battle map, for this bout. 5 ruffians, and a new class to fight, the mercenary. Pretty much like Lyn, but with less speed and skill and more defense and strength- still a fast sword user, though.
The things covered by my little description are houses. They offer advice, which is generally useless- for example "Oh, gee, those mountains at the bottom are hard to pass!" Or, "You can break down that wall!" (The thing my cursor's on). In my humble opinion, they're actually kinda useful, as they provide cover- +10 avoid. The mountains at the bottom are indeed hard to pass, but they provide excellent avoid- +10 over a forest- and when we're going against a guy who's usually got about 35% chance to hit, that'll be reduced to about 5% chance to hit.
The brown things by Lyn and Sain are forts. They provide one more defense than forests, and heal you for 20% of your health every turn. Finally, those two things the bandit is standing in between are columns, which are, statistically, indoor forests.

Right. Now time to get on with the pig sticking and throat slitting and blood drinking.
So, I try to have Sain go drink the blood of the ruffian in the corner, when...

Lyn: I'm going to go visit that home, right? Just point me in the right direction!
GODDAMN NINTENDO! No, that's the wrong direction, the right direction is towards the battle, I don't really have a choice now do I?
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No, actually, I don't.:smallannoyed:

Same old woman we saw before: Say, you're that... Oh! You're going to help the priest!
Then why the hell are you barging into my house! (At least, that's what I wish she'd say).

Same old woman we saw before: Well, perhaps you could benefit from something I saw earlier... the bandits have the main entrance guarded. However, one of the altar's walls is cracked and in poor repair. You might be able to create another entrance by hitting that section with your weapons.
Huh-ho! Isn't that kinda, y'know, Sacrilege? Anyways, I'm just wondering, why coudn't she have told us from before? Old woman's probably just senile.
So senile, in fact, she doesn't understand the wonderful intricacies of the xp system. I don't want to avoid the guys below. I want to slit their throats and drink their blood, so that we'll get better at... well, slitting throats and drinking blood. It's all very Samsara.
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Son of a bitch! You make me waste Lyn's turn, now you also make me waste Sain's? Damn you, tutorial! Damn you to hell!
And the old guy tells me about mountains. Yahoo.:smallannoyed:
Okay, now on with the pig sticking and various other sundry.

So, Lyn and Sain tag team a few ruffians (the kills going to Sain, because A: he's a lower level, and B: his current speed leaves something to be desired), and he levels up!
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Ugh. Be careful what you wish for, I suppose. I got the speed boost, sure, but the only other boost I got is his most common boost. He also still has 19 hp- less than the ruffians.:smallfrown:
Oh, well, he should be an offensive demon by now, as both of those are awesome attributes for slitting throats.
Well, anyways, mounted units actually can't pass over mountains, so Lyn treks it out to slaughter the bandits, below, while Sain breaks through the wall. Current kill count is 3/5, not including big boss Ugly Man.
And, breaking through the wall, like I said, Sain is now an offensive demon: double hitting for 13 each, with an iron sword. Bandit kill count is 4/5, and while Lyn is taking out the last one, Sain'll whittle down ugly man a bit.
http://i45.tinypic.com/f1fifq.jpg
Well, that's just pathetic. So long as Sain hits him both times, I'll have Ugly Man six feet under next turn. I think I'll do that.:smallcool:

Ugly Man: Who are you?
I'm Batman. Sorry. I just had to.

Ugly Man: What chance do you think you have against me?
Pretty damn good one, actually.
And, as I predicted, Ugly Man is six feet under next turn, and he gives us some wonderfully astute last words.
http://i47.tinypic.com/2czyrmd.jpg
Wow. Academy award right there. And, Sain levels up again, for some interesting, but still very desirable, stat gains.
http://i49.tinypic.com/2a5c3ds.jpg
Next level, I'll be using Lyn a lot more- by all rights, she should be a level or two above Sain.
Then Lyn slaughters the next bandit, kill count is now 5/5, we capture the throne, moving us on to a cutscene.

Old Man: Ah, your clothing... are you of the Lorca tribe?
Lyn: I am Lyn, the chieftain's daughter. Are you hurt, sir?
Old Man: Thanks to you, I am unscathed. You have my gratitude.
Lovely. Now, where's the blade? Let's take it.

Lyn: And the sword? Is it safe?
Old Man: Yes, I have sealed the sword safely away. Until I remove my spell, the sword cannot be drawn. Now, as a token of my gratitude, I shall allow you to lay hands upon the Mani Katti. Touch the blade's pattern, and pray for a safe journey.
I'm afraid we will be doing much more than that. A scabbard cannot hold what finds its home in flesh.:smallcool:

Lyn: Oh, thank you so much!
Yes, put on that innocent air. You know what we intend to do.


(Flash)
Old Man: Hm?
Lyn: What? Did--
The Sword... it's... glowing.
Old Man: Ah. Hm... it's the power of the spirits. Lyn, they have looked into your soul, and they call out to you.
Lyn: What does that mean?
Old Man: You are the rightful owner. You are to wield the Mani Katti.


Lyn: No... I can't... I couldn't...
Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Lyndis?

Old Man: It is the sword's wish. If you require proof, draw it from its sheath.
Lyn: Um...
http://i46.tinypic.com/20p1w5h.jpg
Yessss! With this blade we shall cut a path of blood through this feeble plane!

Old Man: I never dared hope that I might meet the wielder of the Mani Katti in my life. I am indeed fortunate to see your sword reach your hands.
Lyn: My sword?
Old Man: It is time for you to go, Lyn. You face a great many ordeals. Grip this sword, and meet your destiny head on.
Let your enemies tremble, for you wield the sword of spirits! None shall escape its keen edge!

Sain: So this is the Mani Katti... A blade with no equal.
Well, it's no killing edge, but I suppose it'll do for now.

Lyn: This is all so unbelievable. Perhaps the most famous sword in all of Sacae... in my hand.
Kent: It's not so strange. In fact, many legends tell similar tales. Special blades all over the land call out to their proper owners.
Shut up, xp thief. You'll speak when spoken to.:smallmad:

Kent: And yet, when I saw you draw that blade, Lyndis... I felt something extraordinary. That sword was waiting for you. You were meant to draw it.
Lyn: Stop it! I... I'm nothing special!
Sain: Think of it this way: Some weapons feel more comfortable in your hand, right? Well, the Mani Katti itself feels very comfortable with you. Does this make it any easier to accept? It doesn't appear that either of us can use it.
Lyn: It... does feel right in my hand. A blade that only I can wield.
A tool of destruction and death. In place of ordinary Lyndis, you shall have a queen! Terrible and beautiful to behold! All shall love her and despair!

Lyn: That seems reasonable enough. I can understand that.
Look at it, Sade. This is the Mani Katti. This is... my sword. I must care for it well.
Fade to black...
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http://i50.tinypic.com/xyg7q.jpg

Soldier: Uh... Yes, Lord Lundgren.
Not only is his name obviously that of a primary antagonist, his face is too!:smalltongue:

Soldier: The girl is traveling with Kent and Sain. What are your orders? If we let them be...
Primary Antagonist: Bah! I've heard that northern Bern is full of bandits. She's just a girl. She'll not survive her journey here. I'm more concerned with my older brother. His life must be ended quickly.
All of my sentences are simple sentences.

The poison... there must be no blunders.
Soldier: Yes, M'lord. He suspects nothing and continues to drink it. The marquess's death, due no doubt to "sudden illness," is not far off.
Lundgren: Heh heh heh. Soon... Soon Caelin will be mine!
Both: AHAHAHAHAHAHHH!
Fade to black...
Next time: Band of Mercenaries.
By the way, one disclaimer: I may seem very scathing towards this game, and its contrivances, and its plot. But, really, I only make fun of it because I love it. In the end, it's a brilliant game, with a fun plot, and these little flaws I make fun of only make me love it all the more.:smallsmile:

Oh, and voting for Florina and Wil is now in effect! When you vote, please vote either YES or NO for both Florina and Wil.

[Smiling Knight]

Yesto Wil(l)

No to Florina unless we're shipping her with Lyn.

What, do I seem bitter that we didn't chose Sacred Stones? :smalltongue:

[Gorgondantess]

What, do I seem bitter that we didn't chose Sacred Stones? :smalltongue:

Well, not really: Florina and Lyn aren't sisters, after all. But don't worry. We can always get the incest with Priscilla/Raven.:smallwink:

[Zevox]

Yes to Will.

Yes to Florina.

Yes to Florina/Lyn les yay. :smallbiggrin:

Zevox

[Gorgondantess]

Yes to Will.

Yes to Florina.

Yes to Florina/Lyn les yay. :smallbiggrin:

Zevox

Wow. I've actually never used Wil (And it's spelled Wil, not Will) and I've used Florina once. By my book, they both suck. For flyers, the Fiora and Heath are my definite favorites. Naturally, you people will vote against them.:smallsigh:

[deuxhero]

The only Lyn's mode people wroth leveling are Sain or Kent (preferablly Sain thanks to much stronger supports), Mathew, Serra, Lucius and or Erk and Lyn (only because she is required in a number of chapters)

I say Lyn Hard Mode (so Sain can boss abuse and promote), Hector Normal Mode.


Florina wouldn't be bad if weren't for the GBA trilogys stupid as hell use of constitution for attack speed [/rage]

[Mirrinus]

Florina's one of my top 5 favorite characters in this game (the other 4 being Pent, Louise, Erk, and Serra), so of course I'll vote for her. Her constitution doesn't really put her below Fiora for most of the game, as she averages better speed anyway on top of a decent level head-start from Lyn mode. I prefer Florina over Fiora for her slightly better strength growth rate, faster support speed, and an enormous Luck bonus over Fiora. I'm partial towards flying units in every FE game either way.

I vote no for Wil, as I do not like Snipers in general. The only one I'd vote for is Louise, because she is Pent's wife, and I want to honor that mandatory A support.

Smiling Knight, have you played FE4: Genealogy of the Holy War? If you're that into incest in your FE games, then that's pretty much the best you can do. Not only can you pair up at least one brother/sister pair (and several cousins), but you can even play as their children in the second half of the game. Plus, the actual villain's plot...well, I'll stop there.

[Starbuck_II]

I say yes both. I ship Will/Florina.

[Gorgondantess]

Apparently we'll be shipping Lyn with Florina.:smalltongue:
Oh, and if we get both Wil and Florina (which it's looking like right now), we've taken up 8/12 of the characters, including Schrodinger's sages.

[Zevox]

I pretty much always use Florina myself. She does incredibly well, and I often bring her into the final battle.

Wil, yeah, I don't normally use him - generally I take Rebecca instead. Which is why I voted for Wil here. Might as well see you doing something different from what I do in some respects.

Zevox

[Altaria87]

Yes to Florina (plus a yes to Shipping with Lyn)
No to Wil

[Smiling Knight]

Smiling Knight, have you played FE4: Genealogy of the Holy War? If you're that into incest in your FE games, then that's pretty much the best you can do. Not only can you pair up at least one brother/sister pair (and several cousins), but you can even play as their children in the second half of the game. Plus, the actual villain's plot...well, I'll stop there.

:smallredface:It's not the incest... I just hadn't played Sacred Stones and wanted to see in done.

[Gorgondantess]

I pretty much always use Florina myself. She does incredibly well, and I often bring her into the final battle.

Wil, yeah, I don't normally use him - generally I take Rebecca instead. Which is why I voted for Wil here. Might as well see you doing something different from what I do in some respects.

Zevox

Fiora has slightly lower speed, but all her other skills are far superior. The only thing Florina has over her is that Fiora comes in a bit underleveled, and a bit late in the game (relatively). Wil has excellent defense. Thats... about it. Speed is mediocre, strength is decent, skill is decent, luck is decent. Rebecca, however, has to be babied a lot, as her bases are pretty mediocre, and even with awesome speed growths, it takes a loooong time for her to double hit (bad con). I actually like Louise, though, and usually use her when I take Pent.

[Mirrinus]

Fiora has slightly lower speed, but all her other skills are far superior. The only thing Florina has over her is that Fiora comes in a bit underleveled, and a bit late in the game (relatively).

I wouldn't say that necessarily, as Florina does get better strength growth and much better luck, so attacks will wiff more often against her. Neither will take much damage from magic, and both will probably get 1-shotted by any decent bow user anyway. Although I do think the difference between them isn't that big either way, so it's up to personal preference in the end. I just like having a flier as early as possible, so I usually go with Florina.

[Gorgondantess]

I wouldn't say that necessarily, as Florina does get better strength growth and much better luck, so attacks will wiff more often against her. Neither will take much damage from magic, and both will probably get 1-shotted by any decent bow user anyway. Although I do think the difference between them isn't that big either way, so it's up to personal preference in the end. I just like having a flier as early as possible, so I usually go with Florina.

*spits out coffee*
Are you kidding me? Fiora gets way better strength growth: I usually max out with her, while Florina is stuck around 20. Sure, better luck, but Fiora's luck is also quite good, and I'm of the opinion the speed difference is negligible- I've had Fiora max on that.
I've also had Fiora stand up to snipers here and there- 18 damage or so, out of her 40 health? No problem.

[Mirrinus]

*spits out coffee*
Are you kidding me? Fiora gets way better strength growth: I usually max out with her, while Florina is stuck around 20. Sure, better luck, but Fiora's luck is also quite good, and I'm of the opinion the speed difference is negligible- I've had Fiora max on that.
I've also had Fiora stand up to snipers here and there- 18 damage or so, out of her 40 health? No problem.

To repeat the mantra of the Fire Emblem gaming community: personal experience means nothing. Fiora has a strength growth of 35% (averaging 21 at 20/20), while Florina has a strength growth of 40% on top of her early level lead, so on average she should have slightly better strength. One use of Florina for you is probably not a statistically sufficient amount for you to gauge this difference.

[Zevox]

According to Serenes Forest, their respective stats are:

Florina: (base level 3)
- HP: 60% (Base 18, average final 44.8/60)
- Strength: 40% (base 6, average 22.2/23)
- Skill: 50% (base 8, average 25/25)
- Speed: 55% (base 9, average 28/28)
- Luck: 50% (base 8, average 26/30)
- Defense: 15% (base 4, average 11.7/23)
- Resistance: 35% (base 5, average 19.3/26)

Fiora: (base level 7)
- HP: 70% (base 21, average final 48.4/60)
- Strength: 35% (base 8, average 21.2/23)
- Skill: 60% (base 11, average 25/25)
- Speed: 50% (base 13, average 28/28)
- Luck: 30% (base 6, average 15.6/30)
- Defense: 20% (base 6, average 14.4/23)
- Resistance: 50% (base 7, average 25/26)

So Fiora has slightly better hp growth that translates to an average 4 more hp than Florina, slightly better skill growth that just means she maxes skill out a little earlier, slightly better better defense growth that translates to an average 2.5 or so more defense, and significantly better resistance growth that translates to an average 6 more points of resistance.

While Florina has slightly better strength growth that translates to an average 1 point more strength, slightly better speed growth that just means she maxes it out a bit earlier, and significantly better luck growth that translates to an average 10 more points of luck. And shows up earlier, and so will be higher level than Fiora, possibly significantly, when Fiora shows up.

Seems to about even out to me. Fiora will be sturdier, but Florina will do a bit more damage, crit more often, and dodge more often.

Zevox

[Mirrinus]

Seems to about even out to me. Fiora will be sturdier, but Florina will do a bit more damage, crit more often, and dodge more often.

Just a minor nit-pick: Luck doesn't actually affect your critical hit rate. It only affects accuracy, evade, and critical evade.

[tribble]

what's the value of luck, anyway?

[Mirrinus]

what's the value of luck, anyway?

Every 2 points of luck = 1 point of accuracy, and 1 point of luck = 1 point of evade and critical evade. It's by no means the most important stat, although I think it's more important than skill for many characters, especially since the cap is so high. A 10-point lead in luck means a 10% boost to evasion, which can be a big deal.

Heh, luck > skill.

[Arcanoi]

No to Wil.

Yes to Florina.

[Zevox]

Just a minor nit-pick: Luck doesn't actually affect your critical hit rate. It only affects accuracy, evade, and critical evade.
Really? I could have sworn it did. Oh well, the big advantage in dodge rates is still significant.

Zevox

[Wreckingrocc]

Well, hopeful final list will be:Lyn
Sain
Florina
Wil
Dorcas
Erk
Eliwood
Marcus
Fiora
Isadora
Pent
Louise

So yeah. No Hector. I'm a malicious monster.

In my experience, too, I love snipers and peg knights; typically, I use Wil, Rebecca, Florina, Fiora, and Farina. Love them triangle attacks, too :DSo that's a vote for Yes to Wil and Yes to Florina.

[Mirrinus]

Interesting list. I'm not fond of Priscilla, and Pent does a better job as a healer than Serra in the late game, so that shouldn't be much of a problem (pre-leveled Staff rank for a Sage! Physic and Fortify spam!).

Are you playing for rank? If not, your large number of prepromotes means you'll have quite a few extra promotion items lying around. In the late game, you can sell those and arm everyone to the teeth with Silver and Killer weapons. Truly one of the greatest joys of this game.

Back when I used to participate in FE forum debates, I'd always argue in favor of prepromotes because that extra 5-10k gold you get from promotion items often meant extra Silver and Killer weapons (which is better than using the item to promote a unit even for ranked runs). Prepromotes like Isadora, Vaida, and Louise may have somewhat lower stats than units you've leveled for the entire game, but things start to look a lot more even when the former get access to extra good weapons.

Of course, that's not true for Pent, because Pent's stats are already good enough for endgame from the moment he joins (can you tell I'm a Pent fanboy?). Plus, all prepromotes are immune to RNG-screw, so they'll always have a better lower bound to their usefulness than characters who require many levels. So yeah, do not disrespect the prepromotes, for they are a great part of the game.

[banthesun]

Wait, are we trying to make Sain lose some levels? Unless you're intending to get Sain up to 20 before the end of Lyn's mode, he's gonna lose a bunch of levels. One of the main challenges in Lyn's mode is keeping the knights' levels down.

[Revya]

I vote Yes for Wil.

[Mirrinus]

Well, hopeful final list will be:Lyn
Sain
Florina
Wil
Dorcas
Erk
Eliwood
Marcus
Fiora
Isadora
Pent
Louise


In regards to how support chains should look, I guess you'd probably do:

Eliwood - B - Marcus - A - Isadora - B - Sain - A - Fiora - B - Florina - A - Lyn - B - Wil

Erk - B - Louise - A - Pent - B - Erk

This might be the optimal build if you're absolutely dead-set on getting that A ending for Florina and Lyn. You can also tack Ninian on with Eliwood, since that support grows so fast and you can easily just throw her in for random maps with higher unit requirements to get it. Downside to this is the Isadora/Sain support grows slower than molasses. Second slowest support is Sain/Fiora at 0+2, which isn't too bad. Eliwood/Marcus, Marcus/Isadora, Lyn/Wil, and Louise/Erk/Pent all grow at a rate of +3, which is quite fast. Both of Florina's supports are +4, and Louise/Pent is a given.

Alternatively, you can consider Sain/Louise (which is unfortunately just as slow as Sain/Isadora, because Louise is much too good for poor Sain), but that leaves both Isadora and Erk without a second support partner, although that frees up Eliwood/Fiora. Wil can only support with Lyn from this list, which is why I avoided Lyn/Eliwood. And poor Dorcas can't support anyone, lol.

Of course, this is just a suggestion. Feel free to do whatever you want, such as Pent/Fiora (which I don't think I've ever done).

[Gorgondantess]

On Fiora vs. Florina:
Damn. I still like Fiora more.:smallannoyed:

@Tired: Actually, I'll be using Hector no matter what. As stated in the OP, I'm not opening votes for the Lords: I'll be using them no matter what. Also, you're lacking a swordsage. By my book, if it has Sage in its name, it's one of the best classes in the game.:smallwink:

On equipment and prepromotes: by end game, I've always found I had enough killer/silver weapons to arm every party member with both of them: heck, I even gave most characters brave weapons, to boot.

On Supports: Y'know, I never even bothered with supports, except to see more of the story: it always just feels like I'm bending over backwards for a minor boost.
Also: next vote closes it for Wil. It's 4/4 on yes and no. Though I'll be apparently using Florina.:smallsigh:

[Mirrinus]

@Tired: Actually, I'll be using Hector no matter what. As stated in the OP, I'm not opening votes for the Lords: I'll be using them no matter what. Also, you're lacking a swordsage. By my book, if it has Sage in its name, it's one of the best classes in the game.:smallwink:

You mean Swordmasters? Well, it's a good class, true, but FE7 feels like the low point for Swordmasters in the GBA games. It's stuck in the valley in between Sacred Stones, which had Joshua with his high strength growth and pimp hat, and Sealed Sword, which featured Rutgar who can achieve a 104% critical hit rate. All FE7 had was Guy, who's not necessarily bad but still fails compared to Joshua and Rutgar, and Karel, who's not a terrible prepromote, but is generally not worth getting over Harken. I don't hate Swordmasters in FE7, but I always feel kind of gimped when I use them compared to in other games.

In any case, Lyn is already a pseudo-swordmaster, just without the 15% critical bonus but with the addition of bows as a long-ranged option.

[Gorgondantess]

You mean Swordmasters? Well, it's a good class, true, but FE7 feels like the low point for Swordmasters in the GBA games. It's stuck in the valley in between Sacred Stones, which had Joshua with his high strength growth and pimp hat, and Sealed Sword, which featured Rutgar who can achieve a 104% critical hit rate. All FE7 had was Guy, who's not necessarily bad but still fails compared to Joshua and Rutgar, and Karel, who's not a terrible prepromote, but is generally not worth getting over Harken. I don't hate Swordmasters in FE7, but I always feel kind of gimped when I use them compared to in other games.

In any case, Lyn is already a pseudo-swordmaster, just without the 15% critical bonus but with the addition of bows as a long-ranged option.

Whuh? Damn, I could've sworn it was swordsage... that's just disappointing.
Though I have to agree: Joshua and his pimp hat put Karel and Guy to shame, to say nothing of Karla. Still, it's a cool class no matter what you do: Give one of them a killing edge and they're generally going to have at least 55 crit chance. Now that's just fun. Maybe not very good if he's going to be up against a general, but still cool.:smallcool:
And Lyn... she's amazing early game, but she's never really wowed me near the end. Then again, neither did Eliwood... I might've just been overwhelmed by Hector's awesomeness.:smallwink:

[Sucrose]

Ah, this brings back memories. I'll be watching this.

Yes for Will. Yes, I'm a jerk.:smalltongue:

And while Lyn has never been remarkable late-game, I still have a soft spot for her, and generally use her as one of my sword specialists.

That said, yes, Hector>all.

[Gorgondantess]

Ah, this brings back memories. I'll be watching this.

Yes for Will. Yes, I'm a jerk.:smalltongue:

Ohhh, boy. Be prepared for mediocrity. Heck, I've played with him before, so it won't even be anything new.:smallsigh:
Well, in that case, I'll get to working on the next update.

[Mirrinus]

And Lyn... she's amazing early game, but she's never really wowed me near the end. Then again, neither did Eliwood... I might've just been overwhelmed by Hector's awesomeness.:smallwink:

Do not be alarmed. That is a completely natural reaction to the sheer glory that radiates from Hector.

I actually do prefer Wil over Rebecca, although as I've stated earlier, I'm not fond of archers in general. Having access to only one weapon and being completely unable to counterattack at melee range makes it the most disappointing class in the game.

[Gorgondantess]

Do not be alarmed. That is a completely natural reaction to the sheer glory that radiates from Hector.

I actually do prefer Wil over Rebecca, although as I've stated earlier, I'm not fond of archers in general. Having access to only one weapon and being completely unable to counterattack at melee range makes it the most disappointing class in the game.

Yeah, as far as bow users go, Rath or Louise are my favorites: Rath looks cool and gets sword, while Louise has automatic Pent support (always nice) and is just a good prepromote in general, lacking the mediocrity of Wil and the ultra speed/luck focus of Rebecca.

[Sucrose]

Ohhh, boy. Be prepared for mediocrity. Heck, I've played with him before, so it won't even be anything new.:smallsigh:
Well, in that case, I'll get to working on the next update.

Eh, you'll be fine. At worst, there's always arena-spamming.

[Zevox]

I actually do prefer Wil over Rebecca, although as I've stated earlier, I'm not fond of archers in general. Having access to only one weapon and being completely unable to counterattack at melee range makes it the most disappointing class in the game.
On the other hand, they're also the only class capable of attacking from 3 spaces away, the only class that can use Ballistas, epic at critical hits (well, those that I always use are), and pretty much automatic death to any flying units.

Zevox

[Gorgondantess]

On the other hand, they're also the only class capable of attacking from 3 spaces away
With a crappy weapon,

the only class that can use Ballistas
rare and really not all that good,

epic at critical hits (well, those that I always use are)
A: personal experience doesn't count, B: swordsages will always be better

and pretty much automatic death to any flying units
Who are fragile enough as it is, either to weapons or magic.

Okay, so I might be being a bit too hard on archers, but I've never played a fire emblem game where any of the archers/snipers really wowed me.

[Sucrose]

I have to admit, I'll be interested to see how Florina's used. I've never had much luck for pegasus knights; they always wound up doing dinky damage (which their low Strength, Strength growth, and Constitution seem to bear out), and gotten pretty much instagibbed by anything that'd be a legitimate challenge to my other units. I know PEMN, but it seems as though those are legitimate concerns to me.

[Gorgondantess]

I have to admit, I'll be interested to see how Florina's used. I've never had much luck for pegasus knights; they always wound up doing dinky damage (which their low Strength, Strength growth, and Constitution seem to bear out), and gotten pretty much instagibbed by anything that'd be a legitimate challenge to my other units. I know PEMN, but it seems as though those are legitimate concerns to me.

I don't know PEMN. Care to elaborate?

And I have to agree with Sucrose, on this one. The only luck I've ever had with Pegasus knights was with Fiora: other than that, even with the much vaulted Tana from SS, I've found that they're fast, always double hit, nearly impossible to hit, great movement, flying is always good, but none of that matters coz they never do any damage. I'll take a wyvern over a pegasus any day: Heath is godly.

[Mirrinus]

I don't know PEMN. Care to elaborate?

PEMN = Personal Experience Means Nothing. Just because one unit turned out godly or terrible in one or two playthroughs doesn't mean they are that good or bad. What matters is cold, hard statistics.

Of course, practically speaking you're still at the mercy of the RNG.

[Sucrose]

PEMN = Personal Experience Means Nothing. Just because one unit turned out godly or terrible in one or two playthroughs doesn't mean they are that good or bad. What matters is cold, hard statistics.

Of course, practically speaking you're still at the mercy of the RNG.

This. Also, I've never even seen them be particularly good at evasion. Maybe as good as a Merc, but never to the level of, say, a Myrmidon. Then, their crummy HP comes into play, and you get the instagibbing issue I mentioned.

[Zevox]

With a crappy weapon,
Longbows seem mediocre at worst to me. Certainly they're still plenty to slaughter magic users or lightly armored units (swordsmasters, other archers, some axe-users), and give a great tactical advantage as such.


A: personal experience doesn't count,
I was speaking of the particular units I tend to use. Rebecca, Rolf (PoR), Shinon (RD). Not simply some RNG-blessed runs I've done.


B: swordsages will always be better
Swordsmasters. Who can't attack enemies at a distance, or on the other side of a wall, and who have to expose themselves to counter-attacks whenever they strike.

(Note: no, I'm not arguing that snipers are better than swordsmasters. I'm arguing that they have distinct advantages that make them well worth using.)


Who are fragile enough as it is, either to weapons or magic.
Not always. Pegasus Knights are good at dodging other attacks, and Wyvern Knights often outnumber your spellcasters significantly (not to mention often come in over obstacles that spellcasters can't pass, forcing you to hold them back anyway, lest they get attacked themselves).


Okay, so I might be being a bit too hard on archers, but I've never played a fire emblem game where any of the archers/snipers really wowed me.
I always use one archer, and while the results can be mixed depending on the game, there are a few that routinely wow me (see the above list).


And I have to agree with Sucrose, on this one. The only luck I've ever had with Pegasus knights was with Fiora: other than that, even with the much vaulted Tana from SS, I've found that they're fast, always double hit, nearly impossible to hit, great movement, flying is always good, but none of that matters coz they never do any damage. I'll take a wyvern over a pegasus any day: Heath is godly.
I find that any good Pegasus is instant-death to mages, archers (assuming there's only one archer in the area or you have other units that can mop up the rest before you end the turn), swordsmasters, and sometimes even heroes. I've rarely seen them have that much trouble doing damage to anything but a Knight/General or boss.

Meanwhile, I tend to find Wyvern Knights less useful, because they're not as consistent with double-attacking, and have trouble with taking hits from mages. Jill in PoR and Haar or Jill in RD are good (hell, Haar's an unstoppable god as long as you keep him away from lightning mages), but I usually skip the Wyverns in the GBA games.

Zevox

[Gorgondantess]

The secrets of her past revealed in the words of the Knights of Lycia. Now, to meet her grandfather,
Over the meadows and through the woods, to grandfather's house we go...

Lyn heads west, to Lycia, and to her destiny. A mountain range separates the Sacae plains from Bern. There are many bandits lurking there, the cruelest of which are the Taliver.
Chekhov's bandit, right there.

They wreak havoc on both Sacae and Bern, and their savagery knows no bounds. On her tenth day away from the plains, Lyn witnesses the atrocities herself.
If I don't see a burning village, a pile of bodies, and bloody men running around screaming "MAIMKILLBURNMAIMKILLBURN!" I'm gonna be disappointed.


Chapter 3: Band of Mercenaries


Lyn: This place... it's...
Disappointment in 3, 2, 1...
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Lyn: Taliver mountain is home to a gang of vicious, ruthless bandits. No marquess holds power here.
If that's the case, why do people even live here if they're not armed to the teeth? It's a mountainous region, so it's not like there's any decent arable land around there...:smallsigh:

Lyn: My village was near here, on the other side of the mountain. My people were... The Taliver bandits came at night. It took only one night. The survivors numbered less than ten, including me. They're soulless beasts. I'll never forgive them. Never.
Now, if they were really bad, they'd take all the people and sell them into slavery. Besides, it's more profitable than wanton slaughter.

Sain: Lyndis...
Kent: ...
That's right. Keep your mouth shut, xp thief.

Lyn: I am not running away. I will be back... someday. I will be stronger... I will break their swords beneath me like twigs beneath a stallion's hooves.
Actually, in this game bandits use axes, but I like the sentiment.:smallcool:

I will avenge my people. I'll do everything in my power.
Sain: When the time comes, bring me with you.
Lyn: Sain.
Kent: Don't forget me, either.
Lyn: Kent...
Oh! You, too, Sade?
Well, while slavery is generally a more economically viable option, I can't say no to some mass killing.

Lyn: I... Yoiu're... Thank you.
So, we head over into a strangely untouched village, when this happens!
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Ugly Man the 2nd: What are you going to do to apologize? Huh?
Florina: Uh... I... That is, I...
Ugly Man the 2nd's boot licking toady: Hey, she's quite a catch, eh, buddy? I bet the boss'd give us a pretty penny for her.
Oh, so there's the slavery! I knew these guys wouldn't be that bad with their resources.

Ugly man the 2nd: Yeah. She roughed me up a bit, so I figure fair's fair. It's no more'n she deserves.
Florina: I... I...
Wait, she roughed you up? Girl looks like she has less fight in her than your average terrier.

Ugly Man the 2nd's boot licking toady: What are we gonna do with her flying mule?
Florina: Don't you dare touch her!
Now there's the fight I was looking for!

Ugly Man the 2nd's boot licking toady: What? You just watch your mouth, girlie!
Florina: Do what you will with me, just... Let her go. Please. I beg of you.
Ugly Man the 2nd: Ha ha ha! Silly twit! Pegasi can only be found in Ilia. They're rare beasts, worth more than you by far! We can sell it for a mountain of gold. Let it go? HA!
Florina: No, you can't...
Well, I don't see you in much of a position to stop him.:smallconfused:

Ugly Man the 2nd: C'mon! Let's move!
So, finally, the group decides to move in and check out what's going on.
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Kent: There seems to be some sort of commotion over there.
Goddammit, xp whore, if you don't shut up I'm going to ki... wait, I've already done that. Damn.:smallconfused:

Lyn: That's... That's a pegasus. Could it be?
Florina? Is that you, Florina?
Florina: Ah! Lyn?
Lyn: Florina! What are you doing in a place such as this?
Florina: Lyn! Is it really you? I... I...
Lyn: Come now, no crying!
Gawd, I'm supposed to use this kid in battle? Kill me now. Or, better yet, kill her now. Its gonna happen eventually.

Florina: I'm sorry.
Kent: You are acquaintances?
Lyn: She's my friend. This is Florina, a pegasus knight in training from Ilia. She's a little uncomfortable around men. Tell me, Florina, what happened here?
I suppose Ugly Man the 2nd and his boot licking toady are just standing around, politely waiting while all this is going on?

Florina: Well... Um... When I heard that you had left... I decided to follow you. Then I saw this village... I flew down to ask if they had news of you. I didn't see these two, and... well...
Lyn: Did your pegasus land on them?
Florina: Well, I... A little...
Ugly Man the 2nd's boot licking toady: Aha! You heard her! She admits her fault!
Because, of course, bandits need a confession of some fault to take what they want. Totally.

She stepped on my friend, and now she's got to pay!
Lyn: Did you apologize, Florina?
Florina: Yes. I told them I was sorry many times over. They just wouldn't listen...
Lyn: Don't cry. It's all right.
Florina: Lyn...
Lyn: Listen, she's obviously sorry. Can't we just let this pass? You don't appear to be injured or anything.
Ugly Man the 2nd: No chance. The girl goes with us- by force if need be!
Hey! C'mon out, boys! The men are fair game, but don't put a scratch on the girls!
Lyn: Sade! We've got to fight back!
Florina: Lyn...
That's the 5th time she's said that in the last 2 minutes.

Lyn: You're a pegasus knight, aren't you? You can fight, can't you?
Florina:...Yes!
Lyn: Listen carefully, Sade. We're facing bandits. They're underlings, but we can't take them too lightly. Let's clear them out of here. Are you ready?
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Lyn:The layout around here will make it a bit difficult to fight. The same holds true for our foe, too. If we use these walls just so, they may ensure our victory.
Florina: Lyn... Who's that?
You worst nightmare...:smallamused:

Lyn: This is Sade. She's still an apprentice, but she's my tactician.
Florina: Oh, I see... Well, Sade... I'm pleased to meet you.
So, we're given free reign... but not really, coz I have to have Lyn visit the red house. Not too bad, as red-roofed houses always give you something.

Lyn: Is anyone there?
Voice: Leave us alone, you thugs! Go away! Go away! We've no more gold for you!
Lyn: No, wait! Please! We're not bandits! We want to help the village. Please listen!
Voice: Remain inside, everyone. I'll go see what's happening.
And we get our view of mediocrity.
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And it's One-L Wil! The most mediocre shot in the west!

Lyn: My name is Lyn. My colleagues and I are just traveling through here..
Don't you just hate that when people put 2 periods? You never know whether they mean (.) or (...). Really.

We saw some bandits about. We're going to deal with them, but... We need you to go and warn the villagers.
One-L Wil: Hey! Wait! The name's Wil. It's spelled with one L. I'm a traveler of sorts, too. Listen, those villagers have been kind to me. Mind if I fight with you?
Lyn: Not at all. We need all the help we can get! Welcome aboard, Wil!
So, the game forces me to have Wil attack a Merc.
http://i47.tinypic.com/330d7k3.jpg
Yeah, I have a decent chance to hit the Merc, manage to hit him, then deal mediocre damage. It's also a pretty mediocre attack animation. The bandit can't retaliate, which is good, but Wil also can't retaliate, which brings him back down to mediocre.
Getting the sense I think Wil is mediocre?
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Just look at those stats. 6, 5, 5, 6, 5... the thing about Wil is, he isn't bad by a long shot, but he sure as hell isn't good. He's just... mediocre.
So, then the game forces me to have Florina finish the mook off. Yahoo.
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Now that just looks weird. I freezeframed to type the above, and it happened to be on that, and... what's up with her head?:smalleek:
Asides aside, the game finally gives me free reign, and I can get to mook slaughtering. I have Sain, the only character with an action left, run over to an archer to kill him, double hitting with an iron sword for a very un-mediocre 12 damage a pop. Mook kill count is 2/9.


Florina: Lyn! What should I do! There's an archer!!!
Lyn: What? Where!? Oh, that's Wil.

Florina: Um.........
Wil: What... What is it? Are you unwell?
Lyn: I'm sorry, Wil. Her name is Florina. She's timid around men, and you... you've got a bow.
Wil: Oh! I see! You must be a pegasus knight.
Gee, what gave you that impression? Could it be the massive winged horse she's currently flying around on?

I apologize for frightening you, but I do understand your fear of bows.
Gaw, even his dialog is mediocre. I can understand a mediocre stat character who is stunning characterwise, but this guy is just... mediocre...:smallsigh:

Florina: I... um... ...I'm sorry...
(Here I accidentally skipped the conversation, and I didn't want to bother restarting the level just to see a few more sentences. Sorry.)
Okay! Now, finally, to get to the killings.
While Sain could've undoubtedly killed another mook this level, I knew I needed to have Lyn get some kills, so I held him back. Meanwhile, I have Florina take the village up north, and she pillages is given 2000 gold. I'm pretty sure the armory at the southwest has a javelin, so that'll be nice for Florina and Sain. Mook kill count is still 2/9.
Sent Wil over to weaken a mook, then have Lyn kill him. I think I'll do that the rest of the level: no point wasting xp on One-L Wil, but I don't want to keep him too far behind.
Meanwhile, Lyn retaliates to an enemy, and levels up...
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Getting kindof mediocre statups. I guess Wil's essence has infected her.
Anyways, Florina kills another, Sain kills another, Lyn kills another, then next turn I mop the last two up. Mook kill count is 8/9. Florina levels, and...
http://i46.tinypic.com/f4p844.jpg
HOLY ASS! Those are some damn good statups.
Only thing left now to do is check out the armory, and take down Ugly Man the 2nd. I have Sain check out the armory, hoping for a javelin, and...
http://i48.tinypic.com/2s60eoy.jpg
My. What a variety. Time to take out my frustration on Ugly Man the 2nd. He says a generic baddie thing, which I accidentally skipped again, and I mop him up same turn (Lyn gets another level, strength, skill, speed, res, hp, pretty good.)

Lyn: That's finally taken care of...
Florina: Lyn!
Lyn: Florina... Why did you follow me? It's so dangerous.
Florina: Do you remember the knighting ceremony of the pegasus knights?
Lyn: Yes, you join a band of freelance soldiers to further your training. Is that what brought you here, Florina?
Florina: Uh-huh. I wanted to talk to you before I set out. But when I went to Sacae, I heard that you had left with some strangers, and...
Lyn: You were worried for me? Thank you, but I'm more worried about you.
Florina: Me?
Lyn: Listen, most mercenaries are men, right? Bands of men? I can't imagine you being at all comfortable around them.
Wait... so the pegasus knights of Ilia, an all female group of knights, in order to essentially graduate, have to join (generally) all-male bands of mercenaries? I can almost hear the clatter of a thousand fanfictions being written...

Florina: I know, I know. It's just... I've always dreamt of being a pegasus knight. I imagined I would just... work it out. Somehow. After today, I'm not so sure. Maybe I should just... give up...
Lyn: Florina... Don't cry...
Yes! There's no reason to give up your dream!
Hm?
Sain: Lovely Florina! I have the most brilliant idea!
Kent: Sain!
Sain: You should come with us! With the addition of Wil here, we're a fine group of soldiers,
...Nah. Too easy.

And freelance to boot!
Wil: Wait, did you just include me?
You're coming with us, Wil, whether I like it or not. The forum has spoken.:smallsigh:

Sain: Of course! We were destined to meet here! It's fate! Come now, Lyndis's band of mercenaries is as good a training group as you will find anywhere!
Kent: Sain... this is no joking matter!
Florina: Lyndis? Um, Lyn? Mercenaries?
Lyn: I can give you the details later. This is all a bit rushed. However, Sain is right. Will you come with us, Florina?
Florina: Travel with you Lyn? Truly? I would be so... so happy!
Sain: Fantastic! Beauteous Florina! I am a knight of Caelin. My name is Sain...
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Now how can she scream at a face like that?:smalltongue:

Florina: Stay back! Don't get so close.
I wonder, was Nintendo intending there be les yay with Florina? It's not only implied, but it's a bloody logical conclusion to her androphobia.

Sain: Ah... Beautiful, and yet so modest!
Kent: I beg your forgiveness. Calling us mercenaries...
Lyn: No, I approve. We can't leave Florina on her own. She requires special attention, though. Can I count on you?
Kent: Yes! You have but to ask.
One-L Wil: So... Is it really all right if I travel with you?
Lyn: Oh, yes. Of course! If you're willing, Wil.
Wil: Actually, I'm very grateful. Truth be told, all my money was stolen, and I'm... at a bit of a crossroads. I would be honored to count myself as one of Lyndis's Legion!
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Lyn: This is getting stranger with every day, Sade.
Seriously. I'd hardly call 5 people a legion.:smalltongue:
Well, that's it. Now opening voting for Dorcas. Please vote for yes if you want him, or no if you don't want him.
I've actually never used Dorcas before. Though that doesn't necessarily mean I need to use him... >.>

[Mirrinus]

Wow, it's been a while since I've played Lyn mode. Yeah, Florina's androphobia is quite amazing. Now I want to pair her up with Guy Cecil from Tales of the Abyss. Won't that be hilarious.

I vote no for Dorcas. Not for whether he's bad or good, but because I find him to be a boring character, especially his lack of interesting supports. "I fight for my wife." is pretty much all I can imagine him ever saying.

[Zevox]

I wonder, was Nintendo intending there be les yay with Florina? It's not only implied, but it's a bloody logical conclusion to her androphobia.
Oh, absolutely. The ho yay/les yay and incest in Fire Emblem is pretty much always completely intentional. Heck, just read Lyn and Florina's A support (http://serenesforest.net/fe7/support/106.html), and skip over the words "as a friend" in Lyn's last line. Should be utterly obvious. That's a pretty shabby job NOA did trying to cover it up (and they didn't even do that well with Lucius/Raven (http://serenesforest.net/fe7/support/014.html)). Hell, note who gets unique endings when paired to each other - it's pretty much always romantic pairings, with the few male/male or female/female unique endings usually being the ones with significant ho yay.

Hell, they did something similar to Florina with Heather in Radiant Dawn. She's not paired up with anyone (damn support system without conversations...), but she hates men and has a weird obsession with, to quote her, "pretty girls." About as blatantly obvious of a lesbian as you'll ever see in a Nintendo game this side of the Pacific.

Anyway, on Dorcas. I often use him, and he's a pretty solid axe wielder. But as I have other characters in mind I'd rather see used, and we're already up to 8 of 12 filled, I'm voting no. You'll get all of the axe power you need out of Hector anyway.

Zevox

[Gorgondantess]

Wow, it's been a while since I've played Lyn mode. Yeah, Florina's androphobia is quite amazing. Now I want to pair her up with Guy Cecil from Tales of the Abyss. Won't that be hilarious.

I vote no for Dorcas. Not for whether he's bad or good, but because I find him to be a boring character, especially his lack of interesting supports. "I fight for my wife." is pretty much all I can imagine him ever saying.

Nothing compared to Wil, my firend. Nothing compared to Wil. Does he even have any character, at all? At least Dorcas has motivation.

Oh, and to all who it may concern: About half of the time I spend on any given episode so far is me just typing up the text. It is a pain in the ass, as Fire Emblem tends to be very text heavy. So, if you want me to get these in faster (heck, I'll probably even go on to do Sacred Stones) I'd be much obliged is someone can find me, somewhere on the net, the whole text of the game that I can just copy paste. Heck, I'll even throw in an incentive: first person to get me that gets to add one character of their choice to the team, no votes necessary.

[Mirrinus]

Done. (http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbadvance/file/468480/26823)

And I call Pent, of course.

Edit: I decided to change my mind. Pent may be by far my favorite character, but for humor's sake I choose Serra. I'll be expecting some hilarious commentary associated with her. Bonus points for supporting her with Sain!

Now you just need Erk to play the Kyon to her Haruhi.

[Altaria87]

I'll vote no for Dorcas, having just realised these votes are counting for the whole game, not just Lyn's story :smalleek:

[Mirrinus]

Nothing compared to Wil, my firend. Nothing compared to Wil. Does he even have any character, at all? At least Dorcas has motivation.

Wil does have his own character, it's just that none of it is revealed in the story, only through his supports, so if you've never used him you wouldn't know anything about him.

He grew up in the same village as Rebecca, and he and Rebecca were childhood friends. They haven't seen each other in five years, though, as he and Rebecca's brother ran away from home together to seek their fortunes. However, they ended up parting ways, and since then Wil's been down on his luck. He was just about to return home and admit failure when he ran into Lyn, and ended up joining her merry band. He seems to have some issues with his parents, and is eager to become a renowned knight so as to not return home empty-handed as a failure and a disgrace.

Wil's personality is very enthusiastic and talkative. He is constantly asking others to teach him or train him in various things. He has no problem speaking openly to some of the most intimidating members of the army, such as Raven or Rath. In fact, he's the only person to have ever gotten Rath to laugh.

[Sucrose]

I also vote no for Dorcas. One bland character is enough. I've had my fun.:smallsmile:

Also, your rant regarding One-L Wil's intro was utterly hilarious.:smallbiggrin:

[Starbuck_II]

I vote Dorcas because his name sounds like a dork! (although he was not a bad warrior).

[RdMarquis]

I was hoping someone would do a lets play of Fire Emblem. It's been pretty funny so far.

Anyway, voting no for Dorcas. I never used the guy when playing this.

Speaking of people I don't use, when you called Wil the most mediocre shot in the West, I had this image of Wil drawing a six shooter and hitting a guy in the arm while bystanders exclaimed, "That was a very passable shot!"

[Gorgondantess]

Done. (http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbadvance/file/468480/26823)
You are a godsend. I can now finish these damn things twice as fast.


And I call Pent, of course.

Edit: I decided to change my mind. Pent may be by far my favorite character, but for humor's sake I choose Serra. I'll be expecting some hilarious commentary associated with her. Bonus points for supporting her with Sain!

Now you just need Erk to play the Kyon to her Haruhi.

Damn! I made that promise banking on you getting it for me and having me choose Pent, who I like! Now I just get Serra. She's not bad, sure, but I've always preferred Priscilla.
And, honestly looking back on Serra's conversations... I've got nothing. Then again, I thought that for Wil, and I actually did ok.:smallwink:


Also, your rant regarding One-L Wil's intro was utterly hilarious.
Thank you. I tried quite hard to make it so.

Anyhoo, I should have the next episode up by this evening. Meanwhile, who's in favor of me offing the poor bastard?:smalltongue:

[The_JJ]

Aye! ... because why not.

I've never played these games before so all this is very new and fun. And funny.

[Sucrose]

I'm too merciful (to bits of data, anyway). Let him live.

[SlyGuyMcFly]

Anyhoo, I should have the next episode up by this evening. Meanwhile, who's in favor of me offing the poor bastard?:smalltongue:
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[Grey Paladin]

With some luck in her stat growth Lyn becomes absolutely insane. She once dodged the Dragon.

[Gorgondantess]

With some luck in her stat growth Lyn becomes absolutely insane. She once dodged the Dragon.

...Sooooo? Hector once dodged the dragon. Not such a big deal.:smallconfused:

[Mirrinus]

Damn! I made that promise banking on you getting it for me and having me choose Pent, who I like! Now I just get Serra. She's not bad, sure, but I've always preferred Priscilla.
And, honestly looking back on Serra's conversations... I've got nothing. Then again, I thought that for Wil, and I actually did ok.:smallwink:

Heh, too bad. I find Serra's supports to be quite amusing. And I actually like her over Priscilla, but then again I just dislike Priscilla. Besides, Serra gets slightly better speed thanks to her promotion bonus, and a much better defensive support affinity.

[deuxhero]

Count me as a no for everyone but Sain Serra, Erk Lucius, Mathew and the armor knight whoes name escapes me (for boss abuse purposes only)

[Gorgondantess]

Heh, too bad. I find Serra's supports to be quite amusing. And I actually like her over Priscilla, but then again I just dislike Priscilla. Besides, Serra gets slightly better speed thanks to her promotion bonus, and a much better defensive support affinity.

Okay, so, we're doing Lyn-Florina supports, and Sain-Serra supports. Any other requests? Perhaps some Eliwood-Ninian pedo action?:smalltongue:

[Zevox]

How about Lucius-Raven and Heath-Legault ho yay, if you get them in the party? :smallwink:

Zevox

[chiasaur11]

Okay, so, we're doing Lyn-Florina supports, and Sain-Serra supports. Any other requests? Perhaps some Eliwood-Ninian pedo action?:smalltongue:

Well, considering the details,

It's more bestiality, innit?

[deuxhero]

I prefer Serra to Priscilla because FE7 healers take forever to level (Lyn mode abuse gives Serra a great head start, and she needs it) and the GBA games lack of canto tend to make Priscilla's mountedness more of a hurt than a help (dessert chapter, weather conditions, forested chapters).

[Belobog]

Supports in favor of:
Lyn-Florina
Sain-Serra
Lucius-Raven

Heath Legault both crop up really late, otherwise I would toss support for them, too. Might as well go for Eliwood-Ninian, though, since we're on Eliwood anyway.

And I personally have a soft spot for Dorcas...which is why I'm voting to see him die. After he talks to his wife.

[deuxhero]

But only Lyn can die in Lyn's mode. Everyone else is just injured.

[Belobog]

But only Lyn can die in Lyn's mode. Everyone else is just injured.

Fine. I'll just have to live with him losing an eye. Or some fingers.

[deuxhero]

No need to kill the survival ranking, just shove him away for the rest of the mode.


Oh right, abuse Nils while you boss abuse Sain so you can get 19XX.

[Smiling Knight]

I don't think there is a 19xx in Eliwood mode... :smallfrown:

[banthesun]

With some luck in her stat growth Lyn becomes absolutely insane. She once dodged the Dragon.

Personally, I use Lyn to solo the dragon. My RNG loves her.

[deuxhero]

I don't think there is a 19xx in Eliwood mode... :smallfrown:

Hence why I said to go Hector normal mode (and lyn hard mode, to promote sain with Wallace's knight's crest).

Oh, make Mark female, for the lulz of Sain flirting with her.

[Gorgondantess]

After defeating the bandits, Lyn continues westward.
She and her colleagues stop for the night at a ruined fortress.
Well, nothing could possibly go wrong there. Weathertop, anyone?

The Ganelon bandits are in a rage after their brethren fell to Lyn's swords.
They race in pursuit of the companions.
Their angry footsteps sound closer and closer...


Chapter 4: In Occupation's Shadow

So, we happen across the fortress ruins, and we're treated to some peaceful music. Like that's going to last.
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Sain : This mildewy old fortress? Is this the best we can do? Come, Wil! Surely you jest!
Yes, because there's obviously an inn right around the corner. One-L Wil, however, being the most mediocre shot of the west, has spent his time down on his luck, unable to afford inns. A mildewy old fortress is a 5 star resort to this guy.

Wil : The bandits keep everything in turmoil around here. No one has time to worry about travelers. And there are rather a lot of us.
Lyn : This will be fine. Who wants to be stuck inside, anyway? I prefer a place where I can feel the wind blow.
Ah, yes, the great outdoors... the grass, the trees, the sound of dozens of juicy chunks of xp running to you in the night. Isn't it lovely?

Florina : As long as I'm at Lyn's side, I'll be fine.
Likely they'll be sharing a bedroll.

Sain : And for your protection, your man-at-arms Sain will be right here by your side, ladies.
...Hm. After that last comment, that adds some interesting implications.

Kent : Sain, both you and I are to remain awake. We will alternate the watch.
Sain : Ah, alas...
And then, this happens!

Voice: Your pardon, Milady...
Lyn: Who's there?
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Ah! XP! Kill!

Natalie : I... Forgive my intrusion... My name's Natalie. I'm from a village not far from here... Ah! Ow...
Lyn : Are you all right? Hm? Your leg...
Natalie : It's fine. Don't worry. It's from a childhood sicknes... I can't travel far on it, but it doesn't trouble me much.
Lyn : What are you doing here all by yourself?
Natalie : I'm looking for my husband... I heard he was in this area. He said he wasy going to raise money to have my leg mended. He left the village and hasn't returned. He's a kindhearted man, but I think he might be involved in something dangerous. I got so worried... Here's a sketchof him. It's a poor likeness at best, but... His name is Dorcas. Do you know of him?
Lyn: I'm sorry. I don't believe I've seen or heard of him.
Of course, we will soon enough. Chekhov's Dorcas and all that.

Natalie: I see... If you do meet him, please give him a message. Tell him that Natalie is looking for him.
Lyn: I will tell him. I promise.
And then, from the shadows...
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MORE xp! Yay!:smallbiggrin:

Ugly Man the 3rd's Bootlicking Toady: So they've decided to hole up in this ruined fortress. Perfect. We'll wait til it gets dark, and then...
Ugly Man the 3rd: You're an idiot! There are only a few of them, and some are women! If we attacked them at night, I'd be a laughingstock! Besides, we might hurt the women by mistake! I will not be so wasteful!
Really! Those womenfolk make good slavin'! Especially the ones who just killed all your buddies. Y'know, the girl with the enchanted sword, and the girl with the lance on the giant flying horse...

Ugly Man the 3rd's Bootlicking Toady: You're right, Carjiga! You're so smart!
Do not call Ugly Man the 3rd by his slave name!

Ugly Man the 3rd: We'll avenge Migal and get some pretty souvenirs to boot. Who knows, maybe I'll be a leader after all. Ha ha ha! Let's go! Spread out and encircle the place, you rogues! Let's finish this before it gets too dark to see!
http://i49.tinypic.com/9qiamq.jpg
Oh, snap. That is a lot of xp! It's my lucky day!:smallbiggrin:

Carjiga : Hey, you! Your name's... Dorcas, right?
Dorcas : ...
Carjiga : You haven't done much since you joined us. If those weapons of yours aren't just for show, today's the day to let us see what you can do.
Dorcas : ...
Carjiga : I want you to attack from the back entrance to the east. There's supposed to be a woman inside. I want you to capture her. Do that, and I'll incrase your share of the take. If you want gold, you'll get the job done.
Dorcas : A bunch of women, huh? It would break Natalie's sweet heart to see me sink so low.
It's effective business tactics, man. All's fair in love and capitalism.

Meanwhile, back in the fortress...

Kent : Lady Lyndis! Outside the fortress! Bandits!
Lyn : What did you say?
Sain : Persistent bunch, aren't they? What do you think? Shall we go out and face them?
Yeah! Kill'em all! xpxpxpxpxpxpxpxpxp....

Lyn : No... Natalie cannot move well, and that would put her in danger. Let them come to us. We'll fight here, within these walls. Sade, take over. The command is yours. All we have to do is hold out until they tire and leave.
Pffft. I'm the tactician, you do what I say, and what I say is we rout the bastards.

Natalie : Oh...
Lyn : Rest easy, Natalie. No one will harm you! Listen, everyone! Fight with caution!
So, in this level, I just have to hold out for 7 turns, or run out and kill the boss. I've killed the boss before, on normal mode, so that's what I'm going to do this time around. Sain and Lyn should be tough enough to do that.

Lyn : Sade! This fortress has two entrances. That's where we must meet the enemy! I'll take the eastern door. Sade, you and the others guard the main entrance.
So, the game forces me to take Lyn around to the side, and I position Sain and Florina at the front entrance. I end the turn, and Lyn's attacked by Dorcas. Welllllll, he's gonna die.
Then Sain levels up. HP, strength and speed.
Then, I happened to neglect to notice an archer, and Florina is killed...
Yeah. My bad. Well, first restart of the game.:smallredface:
Okay, so this time I place her in a position just out of the archer's range, but still in a bottleneck with Sain.
http://i45.tinypic.com/33e31qs.jpg
Previously, I had Sain, Wil and Florina one more space down, which had her just in range of the archer. Bad idea.
This time, Sain ups luck, defense and resistance. Not bad... not too good, but not bad. He also crits twice in one turn, with a 3% rate.

So, next turn the game forces me to talk to Dorcas. I really just wish I could kill him now and make some extra hp, but, meh.


Lyn : You! Tell me, are you Dorcas?
Dorcas : ... How do you know my name?
Lyn : Natalie told me. What are you doing with these rogues?
Dorcas : I need money.
Lyn : That may be, but... joining up with mercenaries?
Dorcas : It's the only way to earn gold in these parts. I'll do anyting... even this.
Lyn : For gold? Anything? Would you hurt your wife? Natalie is here! We're protecting her within this fortress!!
Dorcas : What!? Natalie's... She's here?
Lyn : She was so worried that she came looking for you. Think, Dorcas! Would your actions please your wife?
Dorcas : ... ... You're right.
Lyn : Well?
Dorcas : I understand. I can't do this. I'm done with these bandits. Here and now.
Lyn : Really?
Dorcas : Yes... And I would repay you for your kindness toward Natalie. Allow me to fight for you.
Well, I'll allow you to die for me. Which I suppose is close enough.
The game forces me to have Dorcas attack one of the bandits, and the son of a bitch crits and kills him, stealing... far too much xp. He's almost as bad as Kent.
Well, anyhoo, I have Sain and Florina run forwards, after killing the archer, and Sain attacks a Bandit, only to not be able to double hit. Now that's just embarassing.
Sain levels again, and Florina levels again. Both kinda mediocre statups, not worth screenshotting (or even remembering). Sain is generally an early game god (I really don't want to level him up this much) but late game he ends up kinda dissapointing. Oh well.
Aaaaand, I get lazy, and get Lyn killed. I'm sorry Sade, blah blah blah oh shut up.:smallannoyed:
So, second restart... maybe I'll get some better stat ups this round...
And I don't. One for Florina that didn't involve strength or speed, one for Sain that was hp, str, res, and then just a hp str. Well, that's super.
Then, I get farther than before, and...
http://i47.tinypic.com/akgz90.jpg
Oh my god... it's One-L Wil, with some damn good stat ups! He's no longer the most mediocre shot of the west- he's the most OK shot of the west!:smallbiggrin:

And then, I move up Dorcas to the boss, and...
http://i49.tinypic.com/scgxdx.jpg
Boy, he has even more articulate last words than Ugly Man the 2nd! Well, that's it for Dorcas. He won't be missed.
Finally, I move Lyn over to kill Ugly Man the 3rd.

Ugly Man the 3rd: Arrgh.. This isn't... Not me...
Huh. Why couldn't we get this guy instead of Dorcas? At least his last words were intelligible.
Lyn levels up, getting luck and skill boosts. Yawn. Florina levels up again, blah stat boosts, etcetera. Incidentally, Ugly Man the 3rd is the one and only enemy she kills in the level.
So, I get all the baddies, and the level ends with some words from our sponsor, Ugly Man the 3rd's Boot Licking Toady!

UMt3BLT: Curses! They're not human! Listen up, rogues! Retreat! Pull back!
Wait, they self-identify as rogues? This isn't D&D, dammit. And even then they generally label themselves as "Freelance wealth redistribution specialists".:haley:

Lyn : The enemy has fled! Agung! We've won!!!
Natalie : Dorcas!
Wait... is she seeing Dorcas? She's Haley Joel Osment in disguise! Run! (And I suppose Dorcas is Bruce Willis. Huh... that explains a lot.)

Dorcas : I'm so sorry, Natalie.
Awww, dammit, he's still alive! Why can't you do your job like you're supposed to, Ugly Man the 3rd!

Lyn : All's well that ends well. Right, Natalie?
Dorcas : Our village is close. I'll take Natalie home and return tomorrow.
Lyn : Hm? Why can't we just say our farewells today?
Dorcas : Well, I... I spoke with Sade. I... I've been invited to join your group.
Pfff. Your words, not mine.

Lyn : But we're going to Lycia...
Dorcas : I have to go somewhere to earn money. If you think I'll be of use, I'd like to fight for you. You helped my wife... I owe you.
Lyn : Dorcas...
Natalie : Please, Lyn. We are both in agreement on this. Watch over my husband.
Yeeeaaahhhh...:smalleek:

Lyn : Things have finally calmed down.
Kent : We'll continue taking turns keeping watch. Please rest easily.
Lyn : Is that all right? Are you sure? Sain?
Sain : Oh! Er, yes! Of course!
Lyn : Let me warn you... If bandits sneak up on you, they'll cut you down without mercy. Do you understand that?
Sain : What, do you doubt my bravery? Am I not a knight? There's no need to worry! Right, Kent?
Damn straight. Sain just cut down about a dozen bandits without mercy. I don't think he really needs any friendly advice.

Kent : If there's anything suspicious, We'll take care of it. Rest assured.
You, Kent? You hurt your leg in an accident. You wouldn't want to... exacerbate that injury, now, would you? (I really need to work on my threats.:smallredface:)

Lyn : Really? Well, good night then. See you tomorrow, Sade.
Kent : Let's go.
Sain : Ha! No one ever trusts me...
Well, that's it for Episode 5. Sorry for the dearth of screenshots, or funny jokes: I promise I'll work extra hard next time.:smallwink:
Anyhow, voting for Erk is now open! Remember, a vote against Erk is a vote for Pent. Heck, when you vote, just say 'Erk' or 'Pent'.

[Zevox]

Well, I usually use Erk, so I'm going to say Pent.

...you know, you might not want to go killing everyone you're not going to use. Until you get the party filled out, you might want those extra bodies, even if only to hold bottlenecks. And Erk in particular would be a good idea to keep around - it takes a while to get Pent, and anima mages are quite useful to have long before he shows up, even if you're minimizing the xp you give him.

Zevox

[Belobog]

A vote for Pent is a vote for liberty!

[Sucrose]

I'm with Zevox on both counts. (That is, Pent, and maybe you should avoid getting everyone you won't use killed.)

Also, you did a pretty good job; there were at least a couple of decent jokes in there.

[Gorgondantess]

Well, I usually use Erk, so I'm going to say Pent.

...you know, you might not want to go killing everyone you're not going to use. Until you get the party filled out, you might want those extra bodies, even if only to hold bottlenecks. And Erk in particular would be a good idea to keep around - it takes a while to get Pent, and anima mages are quite useful to have long before he shows up, even if you're minimizing the xp you give him.

Zevox

....
It's Lyn's story. On normal. Trust me, it's not that bad. Heck, I can always get them back in Eliwood's if I need them.
And what's with all this Pent love? I had a few Erk jokes that I was just waiting to use.:smallfrown:
'Sides, he's pretty good... just as good as Pent, as far as I'm concerned.

[Sucrose]

Mostly, it's just because I've already used Erk in every one of my playthroughs, so I'm curious about how well the prepromote Pent works out.

Also, by his wonderful stat gains in this chapter, Wil has officially become my pet character. Long live the single L!

[Gorgondantess]

Mostly, it's just because I've already used Erk in every one of my playthroughs, so I'm curious about how well the prepromote Pent works out.

Also, by his wonderful stat gains in this chapter, Wil has officially become my pet character. Long live the single L!

Ugh. Don't expect to see that often. I really wasn't kidding when I said Wil is mediocre: guy's just not good. Not bad, sure, but not good at all.

[Sucrose]

Ugh. Don't expect to see that often. I really wasn't kidding when I said Wil is mediocre: guy's just not good. Not bad, sure, but not good at all.

Oh, I know. I have tried to use him before. I'll just be rooting for the scrappy little bastard.:smalltongue:

Edit: After thinking on it for a bit, I'll actually be changing my vote to Erk, because using Pent demands using Louise, and even I'm not going to stick you with two archers.

[Zevox]

....
It's Lyn's story. On normal. Trust me, it's not that bad. Heck, I can always get them back in Eliwood's if I need them.
Even then, if you wind up not using anyone else you get in Lyn mode, or even just using one more (I intend to vote for Lucius but against everyone else, for instance), it could get a bit problematic by the end level. And I was sort of under the impression that you were going to continue doing this in Eliwood's story, which could go very poorly for the first few levels if you did.


And what's with all this Pent love? I had a few Erk jokes that I was just waiting to use.:smallfrown:
'Sides, he's pretty good... just as good as Pent, as far as I'm concerned.
Oh, sure he is - like I said, I usually use him myself. I'm just voting for Pent to see something different done from what I usually do.

Zevox

[Gorgondantess]

Even then, if you wind up not using anyone else you get in Lyn mode, or even just using one more (I intend to vote for Lucius but against everyone else, for instance), it could get a bit problematic by the end level. And I was sort of under the impression that you were going to continue doing this in Eliwood's story, which could go very poorly for the first few levels if you did.
Well, I'll be continuing onto Eliwood's story, and using/not using whichever characters you've chosen. Anyways, the layout being difficult should be no problem. I'm a competent person, I've played a lords-only playthrough of eliwood's mode. This isn't Hector Hard mode. Whatever you throw at me, I can take it.:smallcool:
Heck, one of the other reasons I don't want to do Hector hard mode is because I wouldn't be able to get by without doing what's comfortable with me: Eliwood's story, normal, I can do just about anything, so it works for the LP.

[RdMarquis]

Wait, if Dorcas joins you after the battle, does that mean you have to get him killed again?

And, I'm casting my vote for Pent.

[Grey Paladin]

...Sooooo? Hector once dodged the dragon. Not such a big deal.:smallconfused:

That's... kind of odd. Its statistically impossible for Hector to dodge the Dragon because his caps are too low.

[DonTheoden]

Just noticed this thread and i got to say, nice LP. FE7 is one of my favorite games.

On the Erk vs Pent thing: I vote Erk, IIRC he is pretty good and you get him earlier in Eliwood's. His support with Serra is pretty funny too.

[Starbuck_II]

I vote Erk. Dorcas is so badass not even death stops him from joining (probably his ring of 9 lives, empty now sadly).

[Altaria87]

I'm voting for Erk- my First 20/20 character in this game
Also, hooray for Wil now being the most OK shot in the west :smallbiggrin:

[Gorgondantess]

Wow. Looks like Erk's making a comeback. Just a couple more votes for him and he'll overtake Pent. Yay! I like having mages.
Also, if we get Erk, it doesn't necessarily mean we can't get Pent. It's just that if I don't take Erk, I'll have to take Pent. If I still have an open slot when we get to him, and he's voted in, then I'll have both.
If this makes any of you change your votes, do tell. I'd personally like to have mages in my party throughout the whole game- of course, I am a merely your feeble, humble servant, and my wishes are stupid and inconsequential.:smallwink:


That's... kind of odd. Its statistically impossible for Hector to dodge the Dragon because his caps are too low.

Huh. Well, it's been a good 2 years since my last playthrough, so I'm probably worng about that.:smallredface:

[chiasaur11]

That's... kind of odd. Its statistically impossible for Hector to dodge the Dragon because his caps are too low.

He's Hector.

Statistics won't stop him.

[Grey Paladin]

Hector's a walking death machine, but Lyn is pretty much what would happen if you made a Pegasus Knight a Swordmaster and gave them a bow. Of course Hector's better but I'd say only her and Florina come close to him.

EDIT: Add my vote for Erk.

[Wreckingrocc]

http://media.pegasusnews.com/img/photos/2008/06/22/thumbs-down.jpgWeird that you'd vote for Dorcas to live in such a manner. Most people seem to have him, so I would've expected some reason to accompany it.

I'm voting no on Erk. I want you to struggle. Damn that Serra pick, by the way.
Okay, so, we're doing Lyn-Florina supports, and Sain-Serra supports. Any other requests? Perhaps some Eliwood-Ninian pedo action?:smalltongue:That'd be Nino and Jaffar's department.

[Gorgondantess]

Damn you people! Now I'll have to wait until halfway through the game to get my sage on.:smallfrown:
Anyways, I should have an update ready this evening: the past couple days I haven't had much time to sit down and do an episode, so don't expect anything exceptionally awesome just because I'm taking a few days to do this one.
Oh, and it's never too late to cast one more vote for Erk!:smalltongue:

[Smiling Knight]

I vote Erk. :smalltongue: Pent fans.

[Gorgondantess]

Hm.... Now this is interesting. We are now tied, between Erk and Pent. I... honestly don't know what to do about that. I certainly can't do the episode without knowing whether or not to use Erk.:smallconfused:

[Sucrose]

Well, are you counting your own vote?

[Revya]

I vote for Pent. Sorry, Erk fans.

[Gorgondantess]

I vote for Pent. Sorry, Erk fans.

...I hate you forever.:smallannoyed:

[Revya]

...I hate you forever.:smallannoyed:

... Can we still be friends?

It was for the best. Eliminating Erk increases the chances of getting Nino in the party. It also prevents him from interfering with the JAFFAR/NINO OTP.

This is a victory for mankind.

[Mirrinus]

You know...I myself still haven't voted on Erk yet.

I vote for Erk. Because a vote for Erk is a vote against Nino.

Yeah, I know Pent is my favorite character and all, but Erk's still up there too, and I don't mind him not using Pent, so long as he puts up with my fanboying. Quite frankly, Pent makes the game too easy. I mean, such high starting stats, AND an A rank in staves?

Besides, there's no rule saying he can't use both. But I want Erk in because I like his supports with Serra.

[Flickerdart]

Vote for Erk. Erk is awesome.

[IthilanorStPete]

Vote for Pent. Pent is awesomer.

[Gorgondantess]

... Can we still be friends?

It was for the best. Eliminating Erk increases the chances of getting Nino in the party. It also prevents him from interfering with the JAFFAR/NINO OTP.

This is a victory for mankind.

Pah. Nino sucks.
HAH! I SAID IT! NINO SUCKS! What now?:smallbiggrin:

@ Mirrinus: We're doing Serra support with Sain. Sorry.
And, once again, we're back to a tie...:smallconfused:
Here's what I'll do: I'll start making the episode, and as I do so, I'll check the thread. If we get someone to vote Pent in that time, I won't use Erk. However, if by the time I'm finished with it there hasn't been a tiebreaker, I'll cast my vote for Erk, and Erk it is. Sound good?

[Sucrose]

Works for me.

[Revya]

Pah. Nino sucks.
HAH! I SAID IT! NINO SUCKS! What now?:smallbiggrin:

Harsh! Is the female Sage animation that bad?


And, once again, we're back to a tie...:smallconfused:
Here's what I'll do: I'll start making the episode, and as I do so, I'll check the thread. If we get someone to vote Pent in that time, I won't use Erk. However, if by the time I'm finished with it there hasn't been a tiebreaker, I'll cast my vote for Erk, and Erk it is. Sound good?

That's more than fair. It's your LP, after all.

I like Erk, to be honest. I already said why I voted against him. Under normal circumstances, I would always have him in my party.

[Mirrinus]

Harsh! Is the female Sage animation that bad?

It has nothing to do with the animation, and everything to do with the fact that she joins as a level 5 Mage when everyone else in your army should have long since been promoted. To get her to usable levels, you have to baby her for one or two entire chapters, feeding her kills that could have otherwise gone to strengthen characters that are already much better.

Inexperienced players will try to compare Nino's 20/20 stats to Pent's, and claim she is better. However, since Pent joins as a level 6 Sage with excellent stats several chapters earlier, it's unfair to say that they'll ever be at the same level without admitting that you're heavily biasing Nino. If Nino had to kill 30 enemies to reach level 6 Sage, how many more levels could pent have gotten if you fed him those same kills? Practically speaking, he should be ahead. Erk, of course, has several dozen chapters to gain a similar lead.

[Lord Seth]

It has nothing to do with the animation, and everything to do with the fact that she joins as a level 5 Mage when everyone else in your army should have long since been promoted. To get her to usable levels, you have to baby her for one or two entire chapters, feeding her kills that could have otherwise gone to strengthen characters that are already much better.You don't even need a full chapter to get Nino up to "usable levels." She was able to take care of herself midway through the first level I got her with, and I wasn't even babying her that much.


Inexperienced players will try to compare Nino's 20/20 stats to Pent's, and claim she is better. However, since Pent joins as a level 6 Sage with excellent stats several chapters earlier, it's unfair to say that they'll ever be at the same level without admitting that you're heavily biasing Nino. If Nino had to kill 30 enemies to reach level 6 Sage, how many more levels could pent have gotten if you fed him those same kills?True, but Pent gains levels far slower than Nino due to his higher starting level. Now it's certainly true that if you have them kill the exact same units, Pent will stay ahead in levels, that's because of his head start. But Nino will be getting a higher quantity of levels from those kills than Pent.

It really comes down to whether the individual player is willing to put forth the effort to get an astoundingly good character that they can only use for a few chapters. There's no real shame in using or not using her.

[Revya]

It has nothing to do with the animation, and everything to do with the fact that she joins as a level 5 Mage when everyone else in your army should have long since been promoted. To get her to usable levels, you have to baby her for one or two entire chapters, feeding her kills that could have otherwise gone to strengthen characters that are already much better.

Inexperienced players will try to compare Nino's 20/20 stats to Pent's, and claim she is better. However, since Pent joins as a level 6 Sage with excellent stats several chapters earlier, it's unfair to say that they'll ever be at the same level without admitting that you're heavily biasing Nino. If Nino had to kill 30 enemies to reach level 6 Sage, how many more levels could pent have gotten if you fed him those same kills? Practically speaking, he should be ahead. Erk, of course, has several dozen chapters to gain a similar lead.

Very informative, thank you.

I didn't particularly optimize my characters or my party makeup when I played... which could explain how difficult my playthrough was. I will say I don't like Nino or Jaffar (Or Hector, or Lyn) for their stats, and I certainly wouldn't dislike them for it.

To be clear, I was in no way saying she was better than Erk in terms of statistics. I didn't even know she was "20/20" in the first place. I didn't vote for Wil because of his stats either.

[Mirrinus]

You don't even need a full chapter to get Nino up to "usable levels." She was able to take care of herself midway through the first level I got her with, and I wasn't even babying her that much.

How many enemies did you let her kill, then?

[Wreckingrocc]

On a random note, am I the only person who's thought of V as Erk during my entire readthrough of OOTS? They look, like, exactly the same, both have purple hair, red robes, evocation magic... The only difference is that V's an elf, but they don't have elves in FE...

That's probably the reason I always unquestioningly believed V to be male :smalltongue:

[Gorgondantess]

The next morning comes too quickly.
Lyn has fought back the bandits' attack.
Fought back? It was a bloody rout. Very bloody.

Now, she rushes for the border of Bern.
If she can reach it, Lycia itself is not far off.
For a moment, Lyn stops to imagine the face of a grandfather she's never seen.
Huh. Sounds difficult.

Chapter 5: Beyond the Borders

So, the team all walks out into a lovely valley.

http://i49.tinypic.com/1easg2.jpg


Lyn : Once we cross, we'll be safe from the bandits, right?
Hah. Hah! HAHAHAHAHAhahhhh.... HAHHAHAHAHHHHHH.... hah... heh.
Yeah right.

Wil : We should be. I doubt they'll be willing to pursue us across the border.
Sain : Lycia at last! It's been a long time. Tomorrow, we'll dine on a feast of Lycia's finest foods! And the mistress of the inn at the crossing is said to be a beauty. Ah, yes... Food and love. No better way to restore a man's soul! This is going to be a fine evening, eh, Kent?
Kent : If your behavior is as deplorable as ever, we'd best stay elsewhere. We're not here for sightseeing.
Sain : Oh, come now! That's not fair!
Lyn : Kent, the inn will be fine.
Kent : As you say, milady.
That's right, xp thiefy boy. Now you're starting to understand your position in this little game of ours.:smalltongue:

Sain : Lyndis! You are truly an angel from on high!
Lyn : It's nothing. Forget it.
Florina : Ah! We'll finally be able to get a good night's sleep.
Lyn : Oh, no... Those bandits are persistent, I'll give them that much.
Otherwise, we wouldn't have much game here. It's so nice of them tom run into my arms, and give us the precious xp that is their lifesblood.

http://i50.tinypic.com/bhf1jn.jpg
Wait, is that... it is! Ugly Man the 4th! Jeez, these guys breed like rabbits. A 4th generation in just a few weeks!:smalleek:

Wil : What? Not again! They're still after us?
Ugly Man the 4th : He he heh heh heh! Don't think you're getting away so easily!
Ugly Man the 2nd's Bootlicking Toady : You leave alive, and everyone'll think the Ganelon bandits have gone soft.
Whoah! It's this guy again? Considering how fast Ugly Mans breed and mature, he must be ancient by their standards! Likely why he's survived so long- they respect him as one of their tribal elders.

Lyn : So? We care nothing for you or your reputations. We must get to Lycia!
Oh, yes, well, in that case, we'll just step aside and let you on your way, eh?

Lyn: Get in our way, and you'll pay!
That's more like it.:smallcool:

Ugly Man the 4th : Cheeky little thing, aren't you? Let's get 'em, lads!
Yeah, like we haven't heard that one before.

And no holding back just 'cause there's women with 'em! Wipe 'em out!
Well hey, that's new. Think this will yield me extra xp? You bet.:smallcool:

And... wait... what's that? Off in the distance? It's another dramatic foil duo!


Serra: Ooooh.... we're lost! This makes me so mad!
Y'know that show Daria? I always think of Serra with Britney's voice. It's hilarious.
http://i49.tinypic.com/jr49pg.jpg
Okay. Focus on his personality. His dress. How he speaks. His hair. His profession. Now add pointed ears.

Serra: What's your point, Erk? What are you trying to say?
Schrodingers Erk: ... I swear, you are NOT the woman I agreed to escort...
Serra: What's your point, Erk? What are you trying to say?
Schrodingers Erk: ... I swear, you are NOT the woman I agreed to escort...
Serra: What? What's that supposed to mean?
Schrodingers Erk: I heard someone was needed to escort a frail Lycian priestess to Ostia...
Serra : Yes, and I'm that priestess.
Schrodingers Erk: Frail? You? Serra, you have no need of any escort to protect you. Even the most hardened criminal would flee in terror after five minutes in your company. I'll return your money. Gladly. Now, will you please go on to Ostia alone?
Serra : NO! Youre MY escort, Erk! MINE!
My own... My precious... Okay, I know, I know. It's a knee jerk reaction.:smallredface:

You're so clean and tidy. A noblewoman like myself can't be seen without a proper escort. Your personality's nothing special, but you're not bad to look at.
The One Erk : I believe that's my line. And I have to take you all the way to Ostia? I only hope my nerves can endure the journey.
Serra : What are you mumbling about? You're so gloomy! Hm? Something's happening over there. Let's take a look!
Schrodingers Erk : Ah. Of course. The first opportunity to get involved in trouble, and she jumps right in. No amount of money is worth this. Hoo...
Hoo indeed.

Serra : Wow! A fight! A fight!
Yeah! Blood!

Erk! Take a look! Fighting those bandits... It's a young girl!
And an armored knight on a horse, then another young girl on a giant flying horse. She didn't notice Wil, of course, coz with his mediocrity he just kindof fades into the background.

Ugly Man the 2nd's Bootlicking Toady: Eh? What's this? You in league with that she-devil?
Serra : Hm?
Erk : Ah... This is so wrong...
UMt2BLT : Gyaaa! I'll take care of you with one swift stroke!
Serra : Eeeeeek! Eeeeeek! Eeeeeeeeeeeeek! Erk! Help me!!!
Erk : So... loud... Serra! Behind me! You there! See if you can match me!
And we're subjected to our first true view of badassery. For those of you who voted against Erk: shame on you. Shaaaaaaaame.:smallmad:

http://i47.tinypic.com/55i5vs.jpg

Kame...

http://i50.tinypic.com/11qo9bq.jpg

Hame...

http://i47.tinypic.com/o9oneu.jpg

HA FREAKIN' DOKEN!


Okay, so it didn't actually kill him, but UMt2BLT has 9 lives or something. Give Erk a break, yah?

Lyn: That scream...
You mean the screams of pain as BLT was incinerated by magical fires?

http://i49.tinypic.com/e17pxj.jpg
No duh, she's only, what, 20 feet away from you?:smalltongue:
So, the game, being a backseat driver- if backseat driver meant someone who habitually leaps up into the front seat and grabs your arms, forcing you to drive a certain way (and generally stupidly)- the game forces me to have Lyn talk to Serra.

Lyn: Look, Sade, someone's over there!
Um, excuse me... hello?
Serra : Hm?
Lyn : Why are you fighting these bandits?
Erk : ... It just happened.
Serra : That's not true! Those ruffians thought that we were with you!!! You got us into a terrible situation! Now, how are you going to get us out?
Erk : Serra, if you'd not been so meddlesome, this all could have been avoided. My apologies. Please trouble yourself with us no more.
But... the power... it must be mine.

Lyn : But... if you're going to have to fight anyway, shouldn't we team up? It will end things faster, right?
Serra : That's true. Yes! That's a good idea. Erk! Go and help these ladies.
Erk : But I... Fine!
Lyn : Very good. My name's Lyn. So, tell me, will you join arms with us?
Serra : Yes, we'd be glad to. My name is Serra, This is my escort, Erk. Be a
good boy, and go fight now, Erk.
You have no idea the power that is right before your eyes. The power to bend minds, burn bodies, and unleash the wrath of the gods upon the earth. The power of a level 1 mage.

Erk : ...Sigh...

Okay, normally I don't quote the game's little tutorials, but this was just too hilarious to pass up.

Erk, a mage, and Serra, a cleirc, have joined your group. Mages use the magic of truth to attack and damage their enemies.
The magic of truth? Seriously? I understand this game is kinda cheesy, but...
"I never loved my parents!" *FIREBALL!* Pahahahahah...


Serra : Hello. You're Agung, right? I'm Serra. Nice to meet you. By the way, see this contrary mage here with me? His name is Erk. I think he's been hurt. I am Erk's employer. "Master", I suppose you could say. What I'm getting at is... I was thinking of healing him free of charge. I know, I know. I'm generous to a fault. Hm? Why are you looking at me like that? Praise my generosity!
I've gotta admit, that's an awesome line. Almost makes up for the whole "Magic of Truth" thing.:smallbiggrin:

Anyway, that's the deal. Please direct me to him.
Except that part's an order, rather than a request, so far as the game is concerned. Ah, well, I suppose I'd do it anyways- after all, I have to keep my "Mages of Truth" in top condition.
...Ugh. That Truth thing is just painful. I think I'm going to stop mentioning it.:smalleek:
So, yeah, we heal Schrodinger's Erk, who hasn't been mentioned as any other names, and we get this.

Erk : You are Agung? I am Erk. I'm not sure how I got in this mess. If I am going to fight, however, I will show you the true power of magic!
Power indeed. The power of NOT SAYING IT.:smalleek:
Anyways, now the game has me make Erk go finish off UMt2BLT. It almost makes me feel bad- he'd been through so much, and now he was going to be killed off due to some crappy tutorial?
Then again, "Almost" is a key word here.:smallwink:
Ha freaking doken. UMt2BLT shall be missed...
Okay, let's go kill some bandits!:smallbiggrin:

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The battle map, such as it is. A few baddies, boss in the bottom right, a few houses I (thank god) won't have to visit, and an armory. This one has javelins.:smallcool:
Bandit kill count, by the way, is 1/7.
Erk kills a merc, Sain kills a brigand, bandit kill count is 3/7. This is gonna be a short level.
Interestingly enough, Lyn gets hit by a bandit with 6% hit chance. Weird. Rare. Awesome.
"Gorgondantess, you magnificent, sexy person", you say, "Isn't it a bad thing that one of your units got hit?"
Well, stupid idiot unversed in the ways of Fire Emblem, let me show you something.
http://i50.tinypic.com/23m2b2b.jpg
See, at the bottom left corner, the xp count there? Level 1, 22 xp. Each use of a heal staff gives Serra 11 xp. She can only heal units which are damaged. She needs to be at at least 10th level before she can be class up and use tomes, which is a bare minimum and hardly optimal. That means, considering each level takes 100 xp, she'll need to use her heal staff *crunches numbers* about 90 times to get to 10th level. The bare minimum. Hardly optimal.
Did I mention that, unless you're being careless or slow or something, you'll only really need to use heal 3 or 4 times per level? And that there's about 30 levels?
Yeah. Clerics have xp problems in Fire Emblem. Thus, having a damaged unit in reach is really, really nice.
Erk then misses a few times and goes up from 98 xp to a level up. It's always fun to level on those. And he gets a much needed speed boost (and luck and res). Not bad.
A couple bandits later, and the kill count is 6/7. I tried to get Wil some action, but he's just so mediocre OK that, when in stuff like woods, he can't hit very well. So he's kinda getting stuck at level 3.:smallsigh:
I work at the boss a bit and manage to level Sain and Lyn just from damaging, both up to 7.
I give Wil a charity shot, just out of pity, then have Erk finish him off. I mean, Wil's OK, but I'd rather dote on "World Changing Power" than "OK".
And we get a rather evolved comment from the 4th.

Ugly Man the 4th: Gaaaah... Scum... You're all scum...
My goodness, did he insult us with his dying words? What innovation! And before all they managed were feeble grunts!:smallwink:
And Erk levels up once more, getting another speed boost. He's now on par with Sain- not bad for being half his level.

Lyn : Nicely done, Sade. That should just about do it.
Serra : What a surprise. You are very strong, Lyn.
Lyn: Your staff is a wondrous thing. Healing powers amaze me.
And yet the xp granted for them... well, that's amazing too. Just in a different way.:smallsigh:

Serra : Only those in the service of good can wield them.
Lyn : You helped us tremendously. Well, it's time for us to go.
Wow. Seeing it like that... seems kinda heartless. "Yeah, you were a great help, bye."

Serra : Take care. Good-bye, Lyn.
Lyn : Fare you well. You, too, Erk.
Erk : Good-bye.


Serra : Well, let us be on our way, Erk.
Sain : What have we here? Another wildflower? Perhaps a butterfly? What an
absolutely delectable creature!
Serra : Oh my! Are you one of Lyn's companions?
Sain : Please, call me Sain.
Serra : I'm Serra. I serve House Ostia.
Sain : Serra... What a lyrical name. I am in service to Castle Caelin.
Serra : Oh! So is Lyn a member of the marquess's family?
Sain : She is the granddaughter of our lord, the marquess.
Serra : Hmmm... Such an important person.
Erk : Serra... what deviousness are you contemplating now?
Serra : Tee hee! Having a person of power in your debt is never a bad thing!
Erk : You can't be serious...
Serra : Oh, Sain! Do you think we could join the lady Lyndis's company? She
seems like such a nice person, and I would ever so much like to help her.
Sain : Of course! We couldn't be happier!! Why, we were only just saying how
we need some more fighting power!
Serra : Are you being hunted or something?
Sain : Yes, it's an inheritance dispute. Assassins everywhere.
Serra : Oh my! In that case, my healing staff and Erk's magic should come in handy.
Erk : Well, I, er... It sounds... dangerous...
Sain : Your staff and magic would be extremely helpful! Please wait here! I will go and speak with Lady Lyndis on your behalf.
Erk : Unbelievable...
Serra : This is fantastic, Erk! Our good deeds will earn us gratitude beyond imagining!
And xp. Both of them happen to be some of the lucky 12.:smallbiggrin:

Erk : I... I... I think I'm going to be ill.
Yes, the power hurts at first, but you'll get used to it when you're standing on a pile of charred corpses, smelling victory in the air. Ironically, victory smells like ham.

Meanwhile, at Castle Caelin...

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Wait... is it... Ugly Man the 5th?
Oh, wait, no, it's just the primary antagonist.

Lundgren : That little girl crossed the border!?
Soldier : Yes, Lord Lundgren. She's en route to Araphen...
Lundgren : Fool! Send out soldiers to meet her! Hold nothing back! Do anything
to finish this now! First the old man, and now the girl... They cling to
life like a drowning man to a rock! Double the poison's strength! If he
struggles, hold him down and pour it down his throat! Once the girl is
gone, Caelin is mine. I will let no one stand in my way!
And where's that puppy I asked for?

And that's it for the latest episode. And damn you, Tired, for beating me to the joke.:smallyuk::smallwink:

[Mirrinus]

On a random note, am I the only person who's thought of V as Erk during my entire readthrough of OOTS? They look, like, exactly the same, both have purple hair, red robes, evocation magic... The only difference is that V's an elf, but they don't have elves in FE...

That's probably the reason I always unquestioningly believed V to be male :smalltongue:

Yes, yes, YES! He even has the sarcasm down (at least, in my mind he does).

It'd be hilarious if you write him as V, Gorgondantess.

[Lord Seth]

How many enemies did you let her kill, then?About ten I think.

[Mirrinus]

About ten I think.

Then she should only be about level 12 or so, 15 at the most if she leveled on every kill. A level 12 mage in a chapter where the rest of your units may be level 10 promoted isn't really what I'd call catching up.

[Zevox]

Heh, if you think Clerics have xp problems in Blazing Sword, be glad you're not playing one of the original, early games. I hear those didn't give xp for healing. Clerics had to level by killing enemies just like everyone else. By bopping them with their staves. Which was exactly as effective as you're probably thinking.

Zevox

[Lord Seth]

Then she should only be about level 12 or so, 15 at the most if she leveled on every kill. A level 12 mage in a chapter where the rest of your units may be level 10 promoted isn't really what I'd call catching up.I didn't say caught up, I said usable.

[Gorgondantess]

Heh, if you think Clerics have xp problems in Blazing Sword, be glad you're not playing one of the original, early games. I hear those didn't give xp for healing. Clerics had to level by killing enemies just like everyone else. By bopping them with their staves. Which was exactly as effective as you're probably thinking.

Zevox

I've been playing Shadow Dragon (FE4, I think?) And in that one, clerics level up at an insane rate. I rarely used mine, and she got to 20 before anyone else. Physic gave 30 xp, warp gave 50. It was pretty crazy- one level I used physic about ten times, and then a couple warps, then some heals, went from 11 to 17.

[Lord Seth]

I've been playing Shadow Dragon (FE4, I think?) And in that one, clerics level up at an insane rate. I rarely used mine, and she got to 20 before anyone else. Physic gave 30 xp, warp gave 50. It was pretty crazy- one level I used physic about ten times, and then a couple warps, then some heals, went from 11 to 17.Shadow Dragon is the most recent Fire Emblem game, though, so I'm not sure what you're saying.

Shadow Dragon is a remake of the first Fire Emblem game though. And you're right that they can level up quickly. However, I believe that that was added to the remake and was not present in the original.

[Gorgondantess]

Shadow Dragon is the most recent Fire Emblem game, though, so I'm not sure what you're saying.

Shadow Dragon is a remake of the first Fire Emblem game though. And you're right that they can level up quickly. However, I believe that that was added to the remake and was not present in the original.

...So they fixed the xp problem, but not the crappy plot?:smallsigh:

[Zevox]

I've been playing Shadow Dragon (FE4, I think?) And in that one, clerics level up at an insane rate. I rarely used mine, and she got to 20 before anyone else. Physic gave 30 xp, warp gave 50. It was pretty crazy- one level I used physic about ten times, and then a couple warps, then some heals, went from 11 to 17.
Seth is correct about this. Shadow Dragon is the eleventh and most recent Fire Emblem, a remake of the very first Fire Emblem game, The Dark Dragon and the Sword of Light. It updated a great many of the mechanics to their modern versions, including giving healers xp for healing.

Zevox

[Mirrinus]

Oh, I wish they remade FE4. Best FE ever.

[Wreckingrocc]

It took me all too long to get the Schrodinger's Erk bit... You need to keep referring to him as that until someone finishes the damned vote.

On a different note, should I delete my post preceding yours so you can "beat me to it"?

[Gorgondantess]

Ugh. Sorry for the radio silence: my hours at work have tripled. The good news is, I now have enough money to live comfortably. The bad news is, on top of school, I don't have enough free time to live. >.<
Well, anyways, I completely forgot that this next episode features a new character- Rath. Therefore, voting is open for Rath. Please vote yes/no when you post.
Anyways, I'll get in another episode... 25 hours from now, probably. I think I'll start updating every thursday night, after that. Sound good?:smallbiggrin:

[Sucrose]

I vote no for Rath. He's not interesting to me.

Glad to see this is still alive.:smallsmile:

Thursday updates sound good.

[Gorgondantess]

Glad to see there's still interest.:smallredface:

[IthilanorStPete]

I vote yes on Rath; the one time I played through this game myself, he was awesome, and I've always had a soft spot for him.

EDIT: Remembered we have Wil already, so changing to a no on Rath.

[Mirrinus]

I like Rath, and would normally vote for him, but since you've already got Wil I'm going to say no.

[Belobog]

I move to vote that accepting Rath would kill Wil.

[Flickerdart]

I say you kill off everyone and play with Lyndis only.

[shadowxknight]

No to Rath. Same reason as the others: already have Wil

[Gorgondantess]

I say you kill off everyone and play with Lyndis only.

I've done it before. It's not fun. It's boring. By the end of her story you have a level 15 Lyn hacking through Lundgren with an iron sword.:smallsigh:

[Zevox]

No Rath. As others have said, Wil is already in, no reason to have another archer. Besides, we only have what, three slots left at this point? There are much better characters to fill such a low number of remaining party members with.

Zevox

[Gorgondantess]

No Rath. As others have said, Wil is already in, no reason to have another archer. Besides, we only have what, three slots left at this point? There are much better characters to fill such a low number of remaining party members with.

Zevox

I might consider opening extra slots- like by the time we get to Heath, and have filled every slot, I'll likely open up voting for him. He is, after all, a badass.:smallamused:
I blame y'all for not having Rath. He's better than One-L Wil in every way, but you just had to go and vote in the most OK shot of the west.:smallsigh:

[Altaria87]

No to Rath. Only because we barely have any slots left. Besides, maybe by the end, Wil will actually be the most good shot in the west?

[Gorgondantess]

No to Rath. Only because we barely have any slots left. Besides, maybe by the end, Wil will actually be the most good shot in the west?

Hmm... we shall see. Depends on how much I use him. After all, just coz he's coming with doesn't mean I have to level him as much as everyone else. He is the lowest level member of the group now, I believe- tied with Erk.

[Gorgondantess]

Dammit, people! I forgot to open voting for Matthew... why didn't you say anything?:smallsigh:
Anyways, update will be tomorrow. I'm too tired right now to be funny.

[Zevox]

Dammit, people! I forgot to open voting for Matthew... why didn't you say anything?:smallsigh:
...because Matthew is one of the most forgettable characters in Fire Emblem? :smalltongue:

Zevox

[Sucrose]

...because Matthew is one of the most forgettable characters in Fire Emblem? :smalltongue:

Zevox

That just means he's doing his job right.:smalltongue:

I vote no for Matthew. Much as I love the smartass, he's outright useless against several enemies, and you're dead-set on having a swordmaster, and planning to play Eliwood's story, which means you're going to have a glut of sword users.

[Gorgondantess]

That just means he's doing his job right.:smalltongue:

I vote no for Matthew. Much as I love the smartass, he's outright useless against several enemies, and you're dead-set on having a swordmaster, and planning to play Eliwood's story, which means you're going to have a glut of sword users.

I've always had a glut of sword users. Always. I don't think there was a single game of Fire Emblem I ever played where less than half of my characters could use swords.
It just kinda works out like that.:smallredface:

[Zevox]

Yeah, and we kind of already have a ton of sword users lined up. Lyn, Eliwood, Sain, Guy/Karel, Florina (post-promotion), and personally there's one more I plan on supporting (Raven). So I'll vote no for Matthew. You should still use him for unlocking and stealing stuff, of course, at least until picking up Legault or Jaffar - nobody should play Fire Emblem without a thief to do those chores for them.

Zevox

[Gorgondantess]

Yeah, and we kind of already have a ton of sword users lined up. Lyn, Eliwood, Sain, Guy/Karel, Florina (post-promotion), and personally there's one more I plan on supporting (Raven). So I'll vote no for Matthew. You should still use him for unlocking and stealing stuff, of course, at least until picking up Legault or Jaffar - nobody should play Fire Emblem without a thief to do those chores for them.

Zevox

Well, naturally. I just won't give him any juicy xp.
Though I'll be disappointed if I don't get Legault: he's pretty cool.:smallcool:

[Mirrinus]

I like Matthew as a character, but as a thief I'd almost never give him exp, and usually just let Legault take over when he arrives. Assassins are the second worst class in the game IMHO, and thieves are only good for lockpicking. So I say no.

[Altaria87]

No to Matthew, again, because of lack of space.

[Grey Paladin]

Are you people mad!? Matthew starts out slow, yes, but he gets a lot better as the game goes on. Yes on him.

[Revya]

No on Rath and No on Matthew. No offense to Matthew. He's pretty cool, but I think we're already pairing Serra with Sain.

[Mirrinus]

Are you people mad!? Matthew starts out slow, yes, but he gets a lot better as the game goes on. Yes on him.

Eh, he promotes to one of the worst classes in the game, gets his promotion item when there's only like 4 chapters remaining, and his promotion item costs 50k. Even if his stats were absurdly better than Jaffar's (they're not), I wouldn't say that's worth it.

[shadowxknight]

Assassins may be bad in usefulness, but they are just too damn cool to not use. Yes on Matthew
Edit: And remember he is needed to open chests/doors.

[Gorgondantess]

Looks like an emphatic no for the both of them. Note that I'll still use Matthew to open doors and such, but I'll be damned if he gets one scrap of xp.


At long last, Lyn arrives in the land of her mother's birth.
Lycia is a federation of territories, each one ruled by a powerful marquess.
Now, Lyn takes her leave of one of these territories, Araphen, and sets out
to meet her grandfather, the marquess of Caelin. However, the marquess's
brother, Lundgren, hungers to rule Caelin. He is preparing a deadly welcome
for Lyn, who stands to threaten his grasp for power.
Huh. .

Chapter 6: Blood of Pride


Lyn: What city is this?
Talk about an ADD moment. Didn't she read the intro?


Sain: This? This is Araphen.
Well, duh.


After Ostia, it's the second biggest city in Lycia.

http://i45.tinypic.com/2rxi16f.jpg

Yes, what with all the bustling people around you... (Damn lazy art team).:smalltongue:


Lyn: By the way, where's Kent?

Did he die? Please tell me he died.


Sain : He said he was going ahead to the castle, but... Ah, here he comes now.
Rats.:smallmad:

Kent : Milady Lyndis! Let us proceed to the castle. They've prepared supplies for us. The marquess has agreed to aid us on our journey to Caelin.
Lyn : He's going to help us?
Kent : Yes. Araphen and Caelin have enjoyed a sturdy friendship for many years. Once I informed the marquess of our plight, he agreed to lend us his strength.
Sain : Looks like we've got a smooth road ahead!
And, of course, they will provide an armed escort, and we'll just waltz into Caelin...

Kent : If we could pick up some soldiers, the road to Caelin would be that much safer. I'm truly sorry for hardships you've suffered so far.
Lyn : Don't be silly. You are so capable, Kent.
Sain : Kent!?
Lyn : Hm? OH, and so are you, Sain.
Sain : Of course I am!
Kent : The castle awaits...
Mmmmyep. We're just gonna head on in, pick up those guys, and head right to Caelin. That's it, end of Lyn's story...

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Of course it is! This would be no fun without stuff like that.:smalltongue:


Sain: What did you say? What's happening?
Didn't you hear the man? There's no subtext in "The castle is burning". Geex, you're almost as bad as Lyn...


Random bystander: Smoke! From the castle! Hey! What are those men doing?
Lyn : Who are you?
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Huh... He's not that ugly, so he's not of the Ugly Man family... Hmmm...


Lyn: Ah! What do you--
Man: No questions! Prepare yourself!!!

But then--

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What moves!

http://i48.tinypic.com/11i08rd.jpg
What skill!

Let's kill him.

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And another eloquent death. Lovely. And I thought of such a good name for him... and he died. Man will be remembered.:smallfrown:


Lyn: What? An arrow?
Could it have been from the man holding the bow right behind me?
....Nawww.


Rider: ....
Lyn: Who are--
Kent: Milady Lyndis! Are you alright?
Lyn: I'm fine. He... this man saved me.
Kent: May I ask your name?
Wow. He's more eloquent than the assassin. And will have a similar life expectancy.:smallsigh:


Lyn: Wait! Why did you help me?
Rider: I thought a Sacaean plainswoman was being attacked. I was mistaken.
Lyn: No, you were right! I am from Sacae. I'm Lyn, the daughter of the Lorca chieftain.
Rider : The Lorca? There were survivors?
Lyn: Yes.
Awww, what's the point. We all know his name from the battle animation.

Rath: You should leave at once. A blaze has started in the castle, and it's spreading. Don't be foolish and waste the life I just saved.
Actually, it's more your own life you should be worried about.

Lyn: You're from the castle? What's happening?
Goddammit! He just said... no, nevermind. Y'know what? There's been a flood.:smallannoyed::smallsigh:

Lyn: Is the marquess safe?
Rath : The castle is under attack, and the marquess has been accosted. The man who attacked you was probably one of the marauders. As captain of the castle guard, it's my duty to rescue the marquess.
Lyn : I see... All right then, we'll help you.
Kent : Milady?
Rath : Why?
Lyn : These brigands are after me. If they're attacking the castle, it's because of me. So I must help if I can...
Rath : It sounds like you're involved somehow... Let's go.
Lyn : You'll accept our aid?
Kent : ...
Rath : I am Rath of the Kutolah. Our tribes may be different, but I will not abandon a woman of the Sacae.
Yeah, and I'd bet you'd abandon a Lycian woman. Racist.:smallmad:

Lyn : Thank you, Rath! A thousand blessings upon you!
Rath : And a thousand curses upon our enemy!
Lyn : Come!

Yes, come! Let's kick some ass! The bandits will far before our blades, and we will drink the sweet milk of their screams blood xp!
But first, let's watch some guy head into a house. Probably a looter.

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Matthew : Peace! I mean no danger to you! Your home offers a good view of the battle outside. Look, I'll pay you for the privilege. Please.
Random Old Woman : Like a vulture waiting for the spoils, eh? Terrible! Pay up! I'll be hiding below, so don't bother me.
Matthew : I wouldn't dream of it. Now then, which side has the most to offer?
I like how this guy thinks! I do believe I'll let him live.:smallamused:

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Rath: Perhaps the secret passageway....
Lyn : Secret passageway?
Rath : An underground tunnel leading to the throne room. There are triggers in the barracks that will open the tunnel.
Lyn : Head through the passage to the throne room... and rescue the marquess. Once that's done, can you drive the enemy from the castle?
Rath : Mmm... If we can release those triggers, my men and I can handle the rest. There are three triggers, though. All three need to be released, or the entrance won't open.
Lyn : But the doors to the barracks are locked.
Rath : The enemy's within. If we don't get inside and finish them, we're stuck.
Lyn : So opening those doors is our first objective.
Actually, our first objective is the death of everything in red, but then I suppose we can take the passage.

Now, let's kick some ass! But first, I have do check a house.:smallsigh:

http://i48.tinypic.com/33x9d7t.jpg

My, how polite. Well, I don't see anything stopping you.:smallsigh:

Lyn: Who are you?
Matthew : I'm Matthew, a specialist in acquisitions of all kinds.
Actually, the proper title is "Freelance wealth redistribution specialist".:haley:

Matthew: Would you like to buy my services?
Lyn : I've no need for a thief.
Matthew : Really? And how do you plan on opening the barrack doors?
Lyn : What? How did you know about--
Matthew : Bullseye!
Lyn : ...
Matthew : Don't be mad. Hire me. For you, I'll even lower my normal rate.
Lyn : I do need those doors opened. OK. You're hired. Why did you choose to ally yourself with me?
Matthew : Hm? I was watching the battle from up above. Your group looked like a lot more fun than the dead guy. Pretty simple, really.
Lyn : You're so odd.
Actually, it's called pragmatism. You should try it sometime. Fate [i]does tend to favor the pragmatic.

Aaaaand, now I'm forced to have ol' Matt open a door.

Matthew: Pardon! You're Sade, right? I'm Matthew.
...And? Seriously, he just starts talking right there. Generally there's at least a "Why don't you have me open the door" or something, but here it's just... yeah.:smallconfused:

So, then Rath runs over to step on the tile. Simple stuff, and finally I get free reign. And... the battle map!
http://i48.tinypic.com/1j5mac.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/17tfr8.jpg

Yes, it's actually a decent size for once. The areas covered in brown are closed off, and I will be revealing them as we go.


Matthew : Hey! Unless my eyes deceive me, that's a chest! Say, Agung! Since we came all this way, what say we help ourselves? Huh? What do you mean, "No"? Don't be such a bore. If you want to win, you've got to use every means at your disposal. That's an ironclad rules! Yeah, I know stealing's bad. I'm well aware of that. We're saving the marquess, right? Let's just call this an advance on our reward, OK?
My, what a fantastical intellectualization! Even with mistaking the look of joy on my face for a refusal, you've gotta love the guy. So, he goes over and opens up the chest for me. God bless wealth redistribution.

Matthew : Hey! This is an angelic robe. This is good for those of us on the... less robust side. Like me, for example. Magic items like this that increase one's abilities vanish after being used. Give them to the people who need them most. But don't fret too much about it, or you'll never use them. Simply holding on to a useful item does no one any good.
Lovely. Actually, I'll likely be giving it to Erk. Blah.
Speaking of which, I take this opportunity to take Matthew's lockpick from him. He is the designated door opener, no more, no less.
Meanwhile, Erk and One-L Wil tag team a mercenary, with no levelups, while Sain and Florina do the same.

Then Wil attacks a mercenary, and...
http://i45.tinypic.com/1r9s2d.jpg
Can I go back to calling him the most Mediocre shot of the west? Please? Seriously, why the hell did you people have to vote him in...:smallsigh:

http://i50.tinypic.com/t6saw0.jpg
See, that's why I like mages over archers. Wil is slower than that, usually won't do as much damage, and can't retaliate to melee. We trade this for some extra defense and skill.

Also, notice the positioning: I let the soldier get in a hit on Matt, so I could heal him with Serra. Yes, I am a whore.:smallwink:

So, I have to have Matthew open the door to the south. Check out the battle map: it takes him 4 turns to get there. Then he'll have to go all the way back. Yay?

So, One-L Wil proves his merit by standing on a switch. All that xp I threw at him is sure paying off. The third switch is conveniently located...
http://i46.tinypic.com/25qsmy0.jpg

Under some fat guy named Bool. I think he's some sort of second-cousin-twice-removed to the most recent ugly man.

Oh, and by the way:
http://i49.tinypic.com/2iudrhh.jpg
God I love early game cavaliers.

http://i45.tinypic.com/e61sh0.jpg
God I love boss scumming. Heck, Flor levels off of it, getting a boost to... well, hp, skill and speed. Maybe she's been hanging out with Mr. OK.

And, actually, that reminds me of one thing that I dislike about mages:
http://i46.tinypic.com/xgcqaq.jpg
They're pretty bad at boss scumming.:smalltongue:

Lyn also levels up from boss scumming, getting hp, skill and luck. I suppose if one rotten apple spoils the barrel, one sortof mealy apple... makes the rest sort of mealy?:smallconfused:

Anyways, Erk finishes off the boss, and levels again. HP, speed, luck, res, nothing special. Meanwhile, we grab an armorslayer, and finish the level. Wil, now a veteran switch-stepper-on-er does the job admirably.

http://i45.tinypic.com/25a4xzp.jpg

Yeah, just another show by the Lyndis Players. We accept payment in xp.


Rath : Sir... If you have praise, it should be given to this group.
Marquess : Hm? Who are you?
Lyn : My name is Lyndis. I'm pleased you're well.
Marquess : Oh... It's you. You're Marquess Caelin's--- Leave us, Rath. I would speak with this girl.
Rath : ...
Marquess : Now... Lady Lyndis. Do you know the identity of those responsible for this uproar?
Lyn : I believe it to be the work of my granduncle, Lundgren.
Marquess : That's exactly right. Whih means my castle has been damaged in your family's petty inheritance dispute.
Lyn : My-My apologies...
Marquess : When I heard that Lady Madelyn's daughter was in trouble, I thought to lend my assistance... I find I've changed my mind. I withdraw my offer.
Kent : Marquess Araphen! You gave me your word, my lord!
Marquess : Your name is Kent, is it not? You failed to inform me of one most vital detail!
Kent : What... What do you mean?
Marquess : This girl does resemble Lady Madelyn, but... I didn't expect to see her so tainted with the blood of Sacae.
Lyn : What?!?
Marquess : Don't you feel the marquess of Caelin would be troubled to meet this... nomadic mongrel?
My, my, racism abounds. Now we know where Rath got it from.

Sain : You--!
Kent : Sain! Hold! My apologies, my lord Marquess.
Marquess : Hm... Your man is poorly disciplined.
Kent : Marquess Araphen! Please... If you would grace us with your aid...
Marquess : ... I hear Marquess Caelin is ill and abed. I question whether he will survive to meet this girl. In which case, his brother, Lundgren, will claim his title. And I certainly wish to avoid trouble with the coming marquess.
Sain : You scheming...
Lyn : Sain! I understand. Kent, Sain, we take our leave at once.
Kent : Milady Lyndis! We--
Lyn : I am proud of the Sacae blood that runs through my veins. I will NOT accept aid from one who disparages my heritage.
He'll get his. Don't worry. Though it's a pity that, being an infirm old man, he won't offer much xp.


Sain : That was well done, milady! The marquess is a lout. Don't worry about anything. We're all here for you! Isn't that so, Kent?
Kent : I beg your forgiveness.
Lyn : Why are you apologizing, Kent?
Kent : I've been so concerned with seeing you to Caelin. I failed to take your feelings into account.
Lyn : Is that it? Trouble yourself no more. You have put my safety above all else. I have seen that... Hold your head up and be proud.
Kent : Milady Lyndis...
Don't give him ideas, Lyndis.


Marquess : Bah! Arrogant child! If she had but shed a single tear, I would have granted her request. We Lycian nobles will never understand those prideful savages.
Rath : ... Are those your true feelings toward the nomads of Sacae, milord?
Marquess : What? Oh, Rath! I didn't see you there. My comments do not reflect on you. You are my captain. I'm proud of your service.
Rath : Of course. As long as we bend our knee to you, you care not where we're from. But when an equal comes from my lands? What conceit.
Marquess : Rath! How can you speak to me like that? I have treated you well, have I not? I have paid you well. I have treated you better than your kind deserves.
Rath : You will never understand. My service ends here.
Damn straight.
Wait... something's missing.... Something about Rath...:smallconfused:
Oh... My god...
I forgot to kill him!:smalleek:
Dammit! I'll just have to do that next level.



Lyn : The marquess of Araphen... He said my grandfather was ill. We must hurry to Caelin...
Kent : As we approach Caelin, Lundgren's obstacles will be more difficult to overcome. However, I've vowed to see you through to the end, milady!
Lyn : I'm counting on you, Kent.
Sain : I'm with you, too!
Lyn : Thank you, Sain. Sade... Thank you for always standing at my side. It's because of all of you that I... I will persevere! They will never break my spirit!


Rath : ...
He speaks the rare and elusive language of the ellipses.

Lyn : Rath! What is it? What are you--
Rath : I overheard the marquess talking to himself. Lyn of the Lorca... Proud daugther of the Sacae... I would join you. I would add my strength to yours.
Lyn : Really?
Rath : And this... I want you to take it.
Lyn : This is... Gold!? It's too much. I can't accept it.
Rath : I have no need for it. And if it will help you...
Lyn : But...
Rath : I cannot take back something once offered.
Lyn : Rath... I thank you.
+5000 gold. Well, I suppose it's better than an xp-thieving armed escort. Speaking of armed escort, this guy has to die.

So, next level we open voting Lucius and add Nils/Ninian. Note that if we choose Lucius here, it'll be much easier to grab Raven down the line. We'll also need him if we want to do ho-yay support with Raven.

I'll be using Nils/Ninian no matter what, just when I can fit them in. They take no xp, after all, and in fact help other characters grab more xp, so are quite handy.

[Cespenar]

I can't believe you guys are keeping Wil and killing off Rath. That's all I'm going to say.

[Altaria87]

I vote yes to Lucius, yay for Monks :smallsmile:
(maybe if we ahve a full team and really wnat another person, we can kill off the most Ok shot in the west)

[tgva8889]

I vote yes for Lucius because I want to vote yes for Raven. Raven is friking awesome, and I can't allow us to not go for the ho-yay!

[Smiling Knight]

Yes Lucius.

[Sucrose]

For the record, I fully understand why mages are better than archers. That said... One-L Wil! One-L Wil!:smallbiggrin: I suppose, if you must, you may return to calling him the most mediocre shot in the west.

I support the ho-yay. Yes for Lucius.

[Istari]

Yes for Lucius.
Yay, for magic characters

[Zevox]

Looks like everyone else has the same idea as me when it comes to Lucius and Raven. So yep, bring the monk with the long blond hair. And if I may suggest, make his secondary support Serra - their conversations are always amusing. (Primary will of course be ho-yay with Raven.)

No on Nils/Ninian, though. Though you may as well still use Nils during Lyn's story, since you'll have plenty of slots per mission for him and doing so isn't exactly going to cost anyone else any xp.

Zevox

[Sucrose]

Oh, we need to vote regarding Nils & Ninian? Then I vote no as well, though a lesser no than all my others, wherein you should use them to the fullest extent possible without cutting anyone who's been voted yes.

In other words, ditto to Zevox.

[Smiling Knight]

No on Nilsian too. They're just kinda boring, and take up slots that could be used for other units. Unfortunately, I think they're required a lot.

[Mirrinus]

No on Lucius. Serra makes a fine enough Bishop, and we'll have enough spellcasters without him. I'd rather have Canas than yet another Bishop. Plus Raven is one of my least favorite characters, so I don't really want to see him on the team either.

[Zevox]

No on Nilsian too. They're just kinda boring, and take up slots that could be used for other units. Unfortunately, I think they're required a lot.
Actually, no, they never are. I don't think that any non-Lord units are ever required in Blazing Sword once you get the ability to select who will accompany you into each level.

Zevox

[Gorgondantess]

Nils/Ninian is a special case. It never hurts to bring them along, and it also never hurts to not bring them along- so, if I have room for them I'll bring them, and if I don't have room for them I won't. It's that simple. No voting.
And... wow. That's a lot of votes for Lucius.:smalleek:


I can't believe you guys are keeping Wil and killing off Rath. That's all I'm going to say.
I hear you, my friend. Rath at least looks cool.

[Wreckingrocc]

I think Matthew needs to die. As much as I love the guy, I just can't resist the opportunity to watch those door keys get some use.

No on Lucius. He and Raven are too good for an LP.

I say give the Angelic Robes to Florina, as well. You'd be amazed by what a difference they make on her.

[Zevox]

Yeah, I forgot to comment on that. I usually give the first Angelic Robe to Lyn myself - she's a Lord and a meleer, but doesn't get particularly impressive health to start out with, so it's always seemed the logical thing to do to me. Florina might be a good option too though.

Can't say I'd use it on Erk myself. If he's getting attacked by anything other than the odd javelin or archer counterattack, or spellcasters who have practically no chance of hurting him anyway, you're doing something wrong.

Zevox

[Gorgondantess]

Yeah, I forgot to comment on that. I usually give the first Angelic Robe to Lyn myself - she's a Lord and a meleer, but doesn't get particularly impressive health to start out with, so it's always seemed the logical thing to do to me. Florina might be a good option too though.

Can't say I'd use it on Erk myself. If he's getting attacked by anything other than the odd javelin or archer counterattack, or spellcasters who have practically no chance of hurting him anyway, you're doing something wrong.

Zevox

Hmmm. Too true. I was seriously considering using it on Florina for a while...
this brooks consideration.:smallconfused:

[tgva8889]

I always use Angelic Robes on Florina, but that's because Florina is a Pegasus Knight and Pegasus Knights are my favorite characters in Fire Emblem games, therefore making Florina my favorite character in Fire Emblem because she's the first you can get in the game.

[Altaria87]

I'm going to support Flornia getting the Robe

[Mirrinus]

I vote for Florina for the robe. If only because Florina is one of my favorite characters, while I don't actually like Lyn personally. (I actually prefer to ship Florina with Hector. Come on, you can't deny that they have one of the cutest ending pics. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v139/VincentASM/Site/FE7/56.png))

[Sucrose]

I support Florina getting the first robe as well. She isn't as evasive as Lyn, and Lyn has always had half-decent HP growth for me, so she's usually been all right without such enhancements. I am going to insist that the first Energy Ring go to Lyn, though.

Well, either her, or... the most mediocre shot in the west.:smallbiggrin:

[Gorgondantess]

Lyn takes her leave of Araphen, finding no aid from its spiteful marquess.
Now, she and her companions resume their march toward Caelin in earnest.
Racing against time, with her grandfather's life the prize.
Can't we just get some gold or something?:smalltongue:

Chapter 7: Siblings Abroad


Harried and impatient, Lyn presses onweard. Suddenly a young boy appears and pleads for their assistance.
Beat it, kid. I only give to private charities.


Nils : Please! Somebody... Somebody, please help!
http://i41.tinypic.com/2n1w2dg.jpg

He's like, 3 feet tall. How much trouble could he possibly cause?:smallconfused:

Nils: But, sir... Why? YOu were so kind yesterday...
NPC : I thought your were just two kids, a couple of traveling performers... If those men are chasing you, you must be up to no good!
Well, obviously. Those guys in the black robes are obviously constables of some sort.

Now get up and get out! You're a plague on decent folk!
Nils : But....... (Leaves)
NPC : Whew... What a mess.

http://i43.tinypic.com/aeu0jk.jpg
Hmm, and what's this pretty little thing? Quite an attractive member of the female sex. Obviously. Can't possibly be a man.

And then the group comes in, just in time as usual.

Lyn : Where are we, Kent?
Kent : This is Kathelet. If we head due south, we'll pass into Caelin.
Sain : From here, I'd say we're about ten days' ride to Castle Caelin.
Assuming we don't run into any delays, of course.
PFFFFFFFAHahahahah.... I'm not even going to dignify that one with sarcasm.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2em1imh.jpg
I said beat it, squirt! Gawd, kids these days...

Lyn: Yes? Can I help you?
Nils : You and your friends... Are you mercenaries?
Lyn : And if we are?
Nils : I need your help!
10,000 gold pieces, up front. This ain't a charity operation, kid.

Kent : Milady Lyndis, you musn't let your guard down. Not even for a child.
Lyn : I know. Forgive me, but we're in a hurry. Is there someone else you can ask?
Nils : There's not time! Ninian's been... It's my sister! Some men have taken her away!
Oh, you mean that blond girl in the white robes?

Sain : Your sister? Did you say your sister's been accosted?
Kent : Sain...
Nils : That's right! By some cruel, awful men. I don't know what I'll do without Ninian.
Sain : Milady Lyndis! We must help him!
Kent : Nonsense! We haven't the time! If the marquess is as ill as we've heard, we must proceed!
Lyn : Kent, I... I want to help this child.
Kent : Milady?
Lyn : I'm worried about my grandfather, of course. But this! I cannot stand by and let a child be taken from her home!
Kent : I see...
Lyn : I'm sorry, Kent.
Kent : I'm your loyal retainer. You owe me no apologies. You must do as your heart dictates, milady. I will follow you, no matter where that may lead.
Lyn : Thank you.
Sain : Hah! Such a noble speech! Ever the true knight, that one! Ah, well. You're in luck, laddie! Let's go get your sister!
That begs the question: if this kid's age is anything to go by, then what's Sain doing wanting to go after his sister?:smalleek:

Lyn : Will you lead us to the men who've done this?
Nils : Uh huh. They're really tough, so be careful.
Lyn : Leave them to us. We're pretty tough ourselvs. Right, Sade?
Damn straight. At this point, Lyn alone is enough to finish her story, even if she doesn't level again.


Nils: Ah! Oh no...
http://i41.tinypic.com/21m5lag.jpg
OH
My
god...
is that...
IT IS.
Ugly Man the 6th! The family line continues!

Ugly Man the 6th: Heh heh heh... Found him! C'mon, it's back to Nergal
Huh. Who's this Nergal guy? Probably a pedophile. >.<

with you. Quiest now.
Nils : No! Let Ninian go!
Ugly Man the 6th: We ain't supposed to kill you, but we sure can rough you up! Get 'em! Huh? Who do you think you are?
Nils: Lyn!
Lyn: Let the boy's siser go.
Ugly Man the 6th: Ah... So you want to help the kid, huh? What a shame. You're gonna die for something that don't concern you.
What arrogance! Just for that, kid, we'll take these guys out for free.:smallmad:
Lyn : You think so, do you? Do we look so meek to you? I think you're in for a terrible shock!
Ugly Man the 6th : Stupid girl... You'll regret those words. Take 'em down, boys![/quote]
You have no idea how many times I've heard those words before.:smallsigh:

And, finally, I get to use the preparations screen.

http://i44.tinypic.com/j5y3kp.jpg
Hallelujah. Love this one. Normally I wait with bated breath for this thing, coz I can remove units that I'm not using from the battle, so they just sit at the side. Only thing is, in this one I'm killing off the units I don't use, so... yeah. Still, it's pretty nice- I can trade items around, use them, and change the formation at the start of the battle. That's all for now, but soon enough I get more abilities.
Now, I believe you folks wanted me to give the angelic robe to Florina?
http://i40.tinypic.com/14kgl1g.jpg
*whistles*. Not bad.
And, with that, I trade stuff around a bit, and start the level. Kindof.


Lyn : I see we're facing a shaman, Sade. I've heard that practitioners of the dark arts are feasome foes. We'll have to be careful... What!? Who are you?
Ah! It's that woman from earlier! Why, hello, ma'am!

Lucius : Please forgive me. I never meant to startle you.
Lyn : Your robes... They look like religious vestiary. Are you an Elimine bishop?
Lucius : Yes... Well, no. I'm only an acolyte, an Elimine monk, to be specific. My name's Lucius.
Hmmm... monk... bishop... aren't those generally male only titles? And Lucius is a masculine name...
*looks down*
Em... that is a very flat woman...
So, masculine title... masculine name... no chest...
Oh my god. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqh3tMZhOXQ):smalleek:

Lyn : Do you have business with us?
You... you... freaky feminine thing!

Lucius : I was at the inn when this child came seeking help. The innkeeper was afraid to get involved. He was... unpleasant.
Nils : I wan't afraid of him! I'm used to being treated that way.
Lyn : That's awful.
Lucius : May I please lend you my services? I truly wish to help the boy. If only a little.
Lyn : Of course.
Lucius : Thank you very much. The blessings of St. Elimine be upon you

And, naturally, the game once again decides to take the reigns. So, the not a woman attacks some dark mage guy. Then...


Nils : I can help, too!
Lyn : Nils! Can you fight?
Nils : No... But I'm a bard, and bards are useful to have around!
Lyn : A bard? Do you mean you're a minstrel? This is no place for a ballad or a saltarello.
Nils : C'mon, trust me! I'm all yours, Sade.
So, I have Nils Dance for Lucius. I think this should be self explanatory.
http://i39.tinypic.com/zmbi3l.jpg
Grey sprite means already acted this turn, and thus can't act again...
http://i41.tinypic.com/3480cgz.jpg
And colored sprite means he can move again, after Nils spends his turn. So, He can give my characters more turns. And more turns equals more attacks. And more attacks equals more xp... and more xp equals more power.:smallbiggrin:

So, after this assery, I get to take over again. The battle map!
http://i39.tinypic.com/rcpziv.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/e8sx95.jpg
Buh. These things are getting bigger and bigger. Please don't expect me to upload Cog of Fate.:smalleek:

Anyways, I slowly move forwards over the fort and mountains and such, doing a lot of tag-teaming to maximize my xp gains. Even One-L Wil joins in on the fun, and Nils makes allocating xp as I desire much easier.
Lucius manages to level quickly enough, gaining an underwhelming hp, magic and resistance. Ironically, Erk is has the high luck, skill and speed, while Lucius has the high magic. Isn't it usually the other way around?
Still, the stat growths are kinda nice, as they give Serra a chance to heal him her him of that horrible 1-hp wound.:smallwink:

I have Sain go grab the village, coz he's way too high of a level to be killing anything. He gets a pure water- an item I have never used. It raises magic resistance for a few turns. Not worth the turn it takes to be used, really.

Oh, and then I put Rath in a great spot for furthering his continued existence.
http://i40.tinypic.com/aaaj48.jpg

He's definitely safe like that! Without a weapon! Nothing can-

http://i42.tinypic.com/nlwe2h.jpg
Oooooohhh.... he's dead. Or at least maimed. Whoops. On with the killing!
Specifically, a kill for Erk, and probably the best statup I've seen yet, aside from that one fluke by The most mediocre OK shot in the west.
http://i39.tinypic.com/2mphaia.jpg
Nice.
....Nice. And in my favorite class, too.:smallamused:

Serra also manages to level up, to a whopping 3, after I abuse her healing. A lot.
Oh, and Florina levels up as well... getting a boost to luck and defense. Whoop de freaking doo. At this point, she's turning out to be a LVP- she double hit a mage with an iron lance and was still a HP shy from killing him.

Anyways, One-L Wil ends up killing Mr. Catsup (a name I've had for the boss of this level, canonically named Heinz, since I first played the game all those years ago.
http://i40.tinypic.com/jg4fnm.jpg
Oh, oh, and flesh! Don't forget flesh! And likely some vital organs!
Wil even levels up from it, living up to his name in his mediocrity.
http://i40.tinypic.com/246nmo8.jpg
The kicker is, I can't even give Serra xp off of that boost, coz killing the boss ends the level. It's pretty painful, all in all.


Lyn : Nils! Where's your sister?
Nils : Ninian! Ninian... She's not here. Why? Where could she be?
Kent : My lady Lyndis! A villager spotted a group of men riding south.
Sain : The boy's dear sister... They must have her!
Lyn : Come! We must give chase!
Nils : But... But... We won't make it! What if they've already...
Eliwood : Are you looking for this girl here?
http://i43.tinypic.com/23t315i.jpg
For some reason, I have the strange feeling we'll be seeing a lot more of this guy. Meh- It's probably just his hair.

Eliwood : She'll be fine. She's just lost consciousness.
Lyn : Who are you?
Eliwood : I'm Eliwood, of Pherae. My father is the marquess.
Lyn : The marquess's son.
Eliwood : She was with a band of ruffians. She seemed upset. She looked in need of rescuing... Was I wrong to involve myself?
Lyn : No, you saved her life. Thank you. My name is Lyn. I'm from Sacae. I'm Marquess Caelin's granddaughter.
Eliwood : Marquess Caelin?
Fade to black...

Lyn : And that's my story.
Huh. Short story.:smalltongue:

It's not an easy tale to believe, I know...
Eliwood : No. I do believe you.
Lyn : What?
Eliwood : At first glance, all I saw was a daughter of the plainsfolk. Now I can see it, though. You have your grandfather's eyes.
Lyn : Do you know my grandfather?
Eliwood : The marquess, Lord Hausen, is my father's good friend. I also know that the proud people of Sacae tell no lies. It's true, isn't it?
Lyn : Yes... Thank you. I would not have expected any Lycian noble to be so courteous to a Sacaean nomad.
Eliwood : You seemed to be in trouble. May I be of assistance?
Lyn : Thank you fo ryour kind offer. This is my problem, though, and I'll deal with it.
She's never refused help so far, even if it's offered from random peole on the street, from transsexual monks to archers whose sole defining features include mediocrity and the lack of a pair of letters in his name, as opposed to just one. Why not accept help from a guy who can likely send you a good squad of highly trained soldiers? I am confused.:smallfrown:

Eliwood : I see. I'll be in the area for a few days longer. If you need anything, please let me know. Lyndis, I'm on your side.
Lyn : Eliwood... Thank you.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2d82l2c.jpg
Okay, so his sister here is definitely around the 10-14 age area. This is definitely going to be a point of much ridicule in future episodes.:smallwink:

Ninian : Nils? Is it really you? Oh, you're safe!
Nils : Uh-huh. These people helped me.
Ninian : Who are they?
Nils : Uh...
Lyn : I'm Lyn. I'm glad you're feeling better.
Ninian : Milady Lyn... Thank you. I'm called Ninian. My brother, Nils, and I
are traveling performers.
Nils : Both of you? Your brother's a musician. How about you, Ninian?
Ninian : I... I dance.
Sain : What? Oh my... you're a dancer!
Wait, did I say future episodes? Sain apparently is... indiscriminate in his love.:smalleek:

Lyn : Sain... Later, please.
Actually, how about never? I could definitely settle with never.

Sain : Um, yeah. Of course.
Lyn : A dancer? Your clothes don't look like those of a dancer.
Nils : Ninian dances to honor life. It's special... Sacred.
Lyn : A sacred dance? What does that mean?
Ninian : I... The dance I perform when we travel is just a normal dance. My other dance, though... When they caught me, I twisted my ankle. I cannot dance to aid you... I'm sorry.
Lyn : Please don't worry. We're just happy to see that you're out of harm's way.
Ninian : Thank you.
Lyn : But I am concerned about your leg. You can't travel on it...
Nils : I've an idea. Would it be too much to ask that we travel with you?
Lyn : I can't allow that! It's far too dangerous. We're being hunted. We never know when we're going to be attacked.
Nils : We wouldn't be a hindrance. We could even help you. Right, Ninian?
Ninian : Yes. We might be able to repay our deb using our... special talents.
Lyn : Special abilities ?
Ninian : When something poses a threat to us, we can sense its approach.
Lyn : Truly? That's amazing!
Nils : We can feel it coming, but we can't do anything to stop it. You're warriors, though, so you don't have that worry.
True that. Speaking of which, this game is getting far too easy...*

Lyn : What do you think, Kent?
Kent : I think leaving them here would cause Lady Lyndis more worry than having them travel with us.
Lyn : Sain? Oh, never mind. I know what your answer is. Do you really want to travel with us?
Nils : Of course!
Ninian : You have our gratitude, milady.
*So, yeah, this game is feeling way too easy. Last time I played through, it was Hector hard mode, and I didn't have too much trouble with that. So, let's spice things up a little- I'll be opening a vote for whether or not I play this Ironman style. When one of the units die, they aren't Fire Emblem, restartable dead. They're nethack dead. I don't get to reset. Scary, but it might just get me to make this really interesting...


Ninian : Oh...
Nils : What's wrong, Ninian?
Ninian : I've lost my ring.
Lyn : Your ring?
Nils : Not Ninis's Grace?
Ninian : The very one.
Nils : They stole it? Those curs!!!
Lyn : Was it valuable?
Ninian : It was a keepsake from our departed mother.
Nils : It was blessed by the spirit of Ninis... There's no other like it in the world. And now we have lost it to those villains. There's nothing we can do.
Ninian : You're right.
Lyn : ...

Lyn : Can I talk to you, Sade? You heard all of that, right? What do you think? I'd realy love to retrieve Ninian's ring for her. But if Nils is right, those thieves might prove to be too strong for us. What should we do?
Well, so long as we get to cut baddies in half and drink the sweet milk of their xp, I don't care if we're bringing back some retarded peasant his pet rock.:smallwink:
So, naturally, I accept the Side quest. Sweet xp milk can never be passed up. And, as stated above, I'm opening voting for Ironman style of play. Please vote yes or no in your post, as always.

[Sucrose]

Yes for Ironman. Let's give you a bit of a challenge.

[IthilanorStPete]

Definitely yes for Ironman. It'll be interesting! *madly grins and cackles*

[Gorgondantess]

Okay, well, just don't moan when your favorite character dies. The biggest problem I see with this is my least favorite characters (Wil, Florina) are pretty damn tough, and won't be accidentally killed, while my sages and swordmasters are glass cannons- one wrong move and my favorite is down and out.

Of course, the nice thing is, having Erk means if he dies I can just shoe in Pent, whose bases are good enough to be used anytime.

[Comet]

I'm voting yes for ironman. I've always played my Fire Emblems with resets after all casualties so this should be a refreshing change.

[Sucrose]

Okay, well, just don't moan when your favorite character dies. The biggest problem I see with this is my least favorite characters (Wil, Florina) are pretty damn tough, and won't be accidentally killed, while my sages and swordmasters are glass cannons- one wrong move and my favorite is down and out.

Of course, the nice thing is, having Erk means if he dies I can just shoe in Pent, whose bases are good enough to be used anytime.

I'll moan if I feel like it, thank you very much!:smallmad:

Well, I won't demand that you drop it, but I'll certainly lament the loss of One-L if he goes down.

[Altaria87]

I'm pretty neutral towards Ironman, so I won't throw in a vote for it.

[SlyGuyMcFly]

Anything named after Ironman has to be a good thing. Right, right?

[Mirrinus]

Yes on Ironman, if only for the hopes that you'll have to use more Pre-promotes later down the line.

[shadowxknight]

YES on Ironman. That's how the game was meant to be played.

[tgva8889]

Yes for Ironman! Die, unlikables!

[Revya]

No on Ironman mode.

[Flickerdart]

The sooner you start playing Ironman, the sooner we'll be witness to the most OK death in the West.

[Sucrose]

The sooner you start playing Ironman, the sooner we'll be witness to the most OK death in the West.

If that's the case, I'll demand that we leave the slot open in his memory. FOR EVERY SUBSEQUENT MISSION!:smallbiggrin:

[Cespenar]

The sooner you start playing Ironman, the sooner we'll be witness to the most OK death in the West.

Couldn't be made clearer. You people killed Rath for him. Rath.

[Gorgondantess]

The sooner you start playing Ironman, the sooner we'll be witness to the most OK death in the West.

That's just the thing: there's one stat Wil excels at. Defense. And since he's an archer, he won't be taking too much fire to begin with...:smallsigh:

And, hey-o, looks like iron man for me. Heeheehee.:smallbiggrin: