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2010-02-23, 09:40 PM
What caster level would a Wizard 3/Sorc 1/Spellthief 1/UM 10 have with the feats Practiced Spellcaster (Sorc) and Master Spellthief? 15 for the wiz, 16 for the sorc? Much more? A little more?

Akal Saris
2010-02-23, 10:02 PM
Assuming only 1 spell level lost on the wiz side for UM...

CL 15 wizard (Actual CL 12), CL 26 for spellthief (but without the ability to actually cast spells until Spellthief 4), and CL 10 (Actual CL 9) for the sorcerer.

If you're doing some weird reading for the UM where it counts as an additional arcane class (rather than augmenting the existing wiz or sorc CL), then bump them each up by another 1.

2010-02-24, 06:52 AM
But Master Spellthief say's that you add all your arcane spellcaster levels and your spellthief levels for the caster level of all your arcane spells. So with Practiced Spellcaster (sorc) that should mean that by sixth level you would have Wiz 6 ( 3 levels, 1 sorc + 1 spellthief due to Master Spellthief, 1 UM) and Sorc 7 ( 1 level, 4 Practiced Spellcaster, 1 spellthief + 1 UM due to Master Spellthief).

Is that wrong, counting UM levels as arcane spellcaster levels for Master Spellthief? Master Spellthief doesn't affect your spellthief caster level only, it affects all your arcane casting.