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CTLC
2010-02-24, 11:31 AM
what is it >.<

ive been trying to play a gish, and i prefer psions, but for the life of me i cant make a decent gish. I prefer move quickly hit hard, and run the hell away, but i dont mind armor or hp.

So, when you want to play a gish in a campaign with some high powered players, what build do you use?

Do not be gentle.

Az'rael
2010-02-24, 11:48 AM
Sounds to me like a Swiftblade is what is needed here. Moves fast and hits hard. The class can be found here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/prc/20070327).

Right now, I'm playing a gish that will end up looking like this: Spellthief 1/Wizard 4/ Daggerspell Mage 10/ Swordsage 1/ Swiftblade 4 at 20th level. Although it isnt the most optomized build ever, there is lots to love. Stealing spells, good attacks, great casting, good skills, channeling spells through dual weilded daggers.

Powerwise, something like Wizard 6/Swiftblade 9/Abjurant Champion 5 would be tough to beat for a swiftblade build. Good offensively, defensively, 4 attacks a round, and 9th level spells at level 20.

Link to Swiftblade Handbook (http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19871410/The_Swiftblade_Handbook).

Totally Guy
2010-02-24, 11:59 AM
I want to play a Gish in E6 using just the SRD and Complete Arcane. But so far my ideas have all been a bit rubbish.

In the past I've done, Bards, an Enlightened Fist, a Sublime Chord and a Suel Arcanamach.

My favourite was the Enlightened Fist but my party was not optimising and way below WBL so I think I may have had a skewed perception on that.

sofawall
2010-02-24, 12:30 PM
Things to pay attention to.

Neraph: Proficient with all martial weapons
Dragonslayer/Spellsword: gives proficiencies (I think?)
Abjurant Champion: Best Gish class out there.
Swiftblade: Just awesome.

Draz74
2010-02-24, 12:36 PM
ive been trying to play a gish, and i prefer psions, but for the life of me i cant make a decent gish. I prefer move quickly hit hard, and run the hell away, but i dont mind armor or hp.

Seems like a pretty clear request for the King of Smack, doesn't it?

Short version since I can't be bothered to hunt down the original thread: Ranger 1 / Psion (egoist) 10 / Slayer 9, pick up Claws of the Beast ASAP via Expanded Knowledge. Pick up Claws of the Vampire ASAP too. Get as many feats and items that expand the size of your Claws as possible, and stack them onto Expansion or (better) Metamorphosis. Pick up Robilar's Gambit. So, every time your opponent hits you, you get to hit them back for like 12d6 damage and heal half of the damage you deal. It works.

Tinydwarfman
2010-02-24, 12:39 PM
Seems like a pretty clear request for the King of Smack, doesn't it?

Short version since I can't be bothered to hunt down the original thread: Ranger 1 / Psion (egoist) 10 / Slayer 9, pick up Claws of the Beast ASAP via Expanded Knowledge. Pick up Claws of the Vampire ASAP too. Get as many feats and items that expand the size of your Claws as possible, and stack them onto Expansion or (better) Metamorphosis. Pick up Robilar's Gambit. So, every time your opponent hits you, you get to hit them back for like 12d6 damage and heal half of the damage you deal. It works.

Why settle for king when you can be God? Everyone loves punching the ground for 1972d8 per round!

Vizzerdrix
2010-02-24, 01:04 PM
Abjurant Champion. It has full casting, boosts defense, Beefy HD, full BAB and is easy to get into. Take the Arcane Strike feat for offense and you're good to go. everything else is just gravy after that.

Kobold-Bard
2010-02-24, 01:27 PM
Fighter 1/Wizard5/Eldritch Knight 1/Spellsword1/Abjurant Champion5/Eldritch Knight 7. BAB: 17/12/7/2, CL 18

Trade Eldritch Knight for Knight Phantom if you want actual class features.

Gish Handbook. (http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19868042/Character_Build_Spotlight:_Gish)

Ianuagonde
2010-02-24, 01:42 PM
I'm very happy with my Duskblade (PHB 2). It's gish in a can. Lots of short-range offensive spells, a couple of mobility spells such as Dimension Hop/Door and Regroup, a few nice buffs such as Resist Energy, GMW and Darkvision. Beautiful action economy: channel lets you attack and use a spell at the same time, and you can quicken a few spells each day for free. Full BAB, casting in armor as class feature, Int-based casting and all Knowledge skills as class skills.

Beowulf DW
2010-02-24, 01:46 PM
Quick question from a newb:

What is the origin of the term "gish" ?

I know what it means, but I have no idea how the term came into being.

Sanguine
2010-02-24, 01:48 PM
Quick question from a newb:

What is the origin of the term "gish" ?

I know what it means, but I have no idea how the term came into being.

The Githzerai(Yanki? I can never remember which is which) have a well established tradition of Fighter/Wizards who are referred to as Gish.

CTLC
2010-02-24, 02:11 PM
dont love the duskblade, swiftblade is cool, but id rather it be psionic. Any ideas involving the elocater, wilder, actually those two.

Kobold-Bard
2010-02-24, 02:15 PM
Ranger/Psion/Slayer is your best bet. Finish it off with "Psionic Knight" (easy to homebrew Psionic version of the Eldritch Knight).

Nate the Snake
2010-02-24, 02:45 PM
Neraph: Proficient with all martial weapons

Careful though, the fact that Outsiders (and Giants) automatically get martial weapon proficiencies is a relatively obscure rule, despite being core.


Dragonslayer/Spellsword: gives proficiencies (I think?)

Spellsword actually requires proficiencies. That tends to get overlooked.

Dragonslayer does grant proficiencies, but it requires +5 BAB, so by the time you qualify, you either already have the proficiencies or you gain them too late to do as much with them.


Abjurant Champion: Best Gish class out there.

Not much else to say here.


Swiftblade: Just awesome.

+1. :smallcool:


dont love the duskblade, swiftblade is cool, but id rather it be psionic. Any ideas involving the elocater, wilder, actually those two.

Why do you want those two specifically? Ranger/psion/slayer is the standard psi-gish; wilder and elocater lose too much in comparison. That said:

-Wilder 6/Elocater 10/Wilder +4. Full Elocater benefits, such as they are, but loses access to 9th-level powers. Also loses 3 powers known, barring Educated Wilder, but gains 2 from Elocater.
-Psion 5/Anarchic Initiate 5/Elocater 10. Full Elocater again, but gets 9th-level powers. Anarchic Initiate (CPsi) turns Psion into pseudo-Wilder.
-Ranger 1/Wilder 5/Slayer 10/Elocater 4. Standard psi-gish with Wilder base and various Elocater stuff. Loses 9th-level powers.
-Ranger 1/Psion 5/Anarchic Initiate 3/Elocater X/Slayer Y. Standard psi-gish, pseudo-Wilder, and Elocater to taste.

Does that help?

LichPrinceAlim
2010-02-24, 02:48 PM
I suggest:

Race: Half Giant Half Troll
Class: Psi-Warrior 15/Swordsage 5

CTLC
2010-02-24, 03:12 PM
spoilered for size Careful though, the fact that Outsiders (and Giants) automatically get martial weapon proficiencies is a relatively obscure rule, despite being core.



Spellsword actually requires proficiencies. That tends to get overlooked.

Dragonslayer does grant proficiencies, but it requires +5 BAB, so by the time you qualify, you either already have the proficiencies or you gain them too late to do as much with them.



Not much else to say here.

Edit: maybe level 10



+1. :smallcool:



Why do you want those two specifically? Ranger/psion/slayer is the standard psi-gish; wilder and elocater lose too much in comparison. That said:

-Wilder 6/Elocater 10/Wilder +4. Full Elocater benefits, such as they are, but loses access to 9th-level powers. Also loses 3 powers known, barring Educated Wilder, but gains 2 from Elocater.
-Psion 5/Anarchic Initiate 5/Elocater 10. Full Elocater again, but gets 9th-level powers. Anarchic Initiate (CPsi) turns Psion into pseudo-Wilder.
-Ranger 1/Wilder 5/Slayer 10/Elocater 4. Standard psi-gish with Wilder base and various Elocater stuff. Loses 9th-level powers.
-Ranger 1/Psion 5/Anarchic Initiate 3/Elocater X/Slayer Y. Standard psi-gish, pseudo-Wilder, and Elocater to taste.

Does that help?

yes it does, and i have no issues with 9th level powers as i dont think this campaign will get past 10 nevermind 15 nevermind 17-18

so, low levels, with access to elocater would be cool

Ormagoden
2010-02-24, 03:15 PM
And in the darkness BIND (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=137.0) them!

sofawall
2010-02-24, 03:25 PM
Dragonslayer does grant proficiencies, but it requires +5 BAB, so by the time you qualify, you either already have the proficiencies or you gain them too late to do as much with them.


Hmm... Does Dragonslayer gives armour profs? If so, that would be why I include it in my Gish builds.

CTLC
2010-02-24, 03:25 PM
And in the darkness BIND (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=137.0) them!

i like binders just fine, but i played a binder recently

Haven
2010-02-24, 03:33 PM
The Githzerai(Yanki? I can never remember which is which) have a well established tradition of Fighter/Wizards who are referred to as Gish.

It was the Githyanki, yeah.

Az'rael
2010-02-24, 07:09 PM
If I were going to play in a low level campaign and want to play a gish, personally I would just go with duskblade. Generally speaking gishes don't really come into their own until above 10th level due to being behind a straight caster and a melee character. Duskblade is effective even at low levels.

CTLC
2010-02-24, 07:13 PM
archane channeling is level 4, if i go psion 5/elocater 10
id have 4 full manifesting levels!

Dusk Eclipse
2010-02-24, 07:15 PM
Have you checked out sorcadin? it goes something like paladin 2/Sorcerer 4/AbjChamp5/Sacred Exorcist 1/spellswordX or something along the lines of that

Wings of Peace
2010-02-24, 07:16 PM
What qualifies as a Gish for these purposes? In the past over at Test of Spite we've had straight caster builds that achieve pretty impressive degrees of combat effectiveness.

Dusk Eclipse
2010-02-24, 07:19 PM
What qualifies as a Gish for these purposes? In the past over at Test of Spite we've had caster builds that achieve pretty impressive degrees of combat effectiveness.

Depends, strict definition is a multiclass fighter/wizard (accorthin to githyanki fluff)

Character creation? AFAIK is just any character who can cast spells and go into the melee route, using spells to buff themselfs

Wings of Peace
2010-02-24, 07:22 PM
Depends, strict definition is a multiclass fighter/wizard (accorthin to githyanki fluff)

Character creation? AFAIK is just any character who can cast spells and go into the melee route, using spells to buff themselfs

Spelldancer, Abjurant Champion, and Runescaster then are good options for a caster gish.

Spelldancer gives you a means to persist ALL of your buffs for the day.

Abjurant Champion is there to add to your ac buffs like the Luminous and Greater Luminous armor spells.

Runecaster isn't completely necessary if you're fully buffed but the ability to wear heavy armors is still a nice little extra to have.


Personally I like a Mind Bender dip for the access to Mindsight as well but that's a personal preference.

Spell selection wise of course you've all got your bread and butter spells as well such as Wraith Strike, GMW, and Divine Power (Arcane Disciple). Stack on as many damage boosters as you can think of after that and you're pretty much a power house.

If you have full book access and you're willing to spend a feat the Ghost template from Ghostwalk coupled with Ghostly Grasp from Libris Mortis is also nice especially early on since you get that tasty miss chance.

CTLC
2010-02-24, 07:25 PM
i mean a build that is melee capable, but has some powers, and can combine them both for versatility and power. Would also rather stay psion.

Wings of Peace
2010-02-24, 07:25 PM
i mean a build that is melee capable, but has some powers, and can combine them both for versatility and power. Would also rather stay psion.

Ah. Well disregard me then >.>

Eldariel
2010-02-24, 07:27 PM
Chrono-Legionnaire is just your thing. Basically Nomad Psion with the following build:
Ranger 1/Psion 5/Slayer 10/Anarchic Initiate 4

Get Deep Impact or Shock Trooper, Leap Attack, Power Attack. Use Divert Teleport along with Inconstant Location means you get to teleport a lot. You can use Control Body with Solicit Psicrystal to effectively use Int for attacking while retaining his own actions for manifesting each round.


Here's the original post with the original build (it's a build by Tleilaxu_Ghost and Radical Taoist):
Character Name: The Chrono-Legionaire
System: Faerun
Polling: For Entry in both Restricted and Original Polls
http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/screenshots/pcnc/sketch03.jpg
"Run, Run, just as fast as you can! You can't catch me; I'm the ginger-bread man!"

Brief Description & Thematic Purpose: We didn't try to go for the ultimate stat monster with the most buffs, we went for the ultimate in mobility. The chrono-legionaire is capable of teleporting in (at medium range) and teleporting out at long range all while mixing in a full-round attack and regaining psionic focus in the same round. Psionics remain the king of long-term action novas.

Class/Levels: Nomad 3/Ranger 1/Nomad 1/Anarchic Initiate 3/Slayer 2/Fighter1/Slayer 8/Anarchic Initiate 1

Race: Human
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral

Ability Scores:
Str: 22 [14 + 6 enhancement + 2 Inherent] (6)
Dex: 20 [14 +6 enhancement] (6)
Con: 20 [14 +6 enhancement] (6)
Int: 32 [16 + 5 (Level Increases) +6 enhancement +5 inherent] (10)
Wis: 18 [12 + 6 enhancement] (4)
Cha: 14 [8 + 6 enhancement] (0)
**Note: if assimilate is successfully used, all stats gain a +4 unnamed bonus for one hour.

Belt of Magnificence +6 200,000 gp (MiniHB)
Cloak of Resistance +5, 25,000 gp (DMG)
Ring of Protection +5, 50,000 gp (DMG)
Spiked Mithril Breast Plate +5 with +3 weapon enhancement and Defending, 79,350 (DMG)
Skin of the Defender, 32000 gp (XPH)
Tome of Clear Thoughts +5, 137,500
Shirt of Natural Armor +5, 50,000 gp (DMG)
Cold-Iron Great Sword +5 Valorous Mage-bane Evil Outsider Bane, 145375 (XPH, DMG, CAdv, UE)
Potion of Bless Weapon x5 (CL 2) 500 (DMG)
Torc of Power Preservation 36,000 (DMG)
Ring of Force Shield 8500 (DMG)
Boots of Skating 7000 (XPH)
Bag of Tricks (grey) 900 (DMG)
Pale Green Ioun Stone 30000 (DMG)


Total: 755,925
Tactical Statistics
Hit points = 8 + 4d4+3d6+2d8+1d8+8d8+1d6 = 81 + 20xCON = 181
Initiative: +7 [Dex + 2 unnamed (psi-crystal)]
Move Speeds:
45 land
60 [Psionic Fly] Fly
AC: 44 [10 base + 5 enhancement to natural AC + 4 unnamed to natural AC + 5 AC + 5 enhancement to AC + 3 unnamed (defending armor spikes) + 5 deflection + 5 dex + 2 Shield AC]
TAC: 23 [10 base + 3 unnamed + 5 dex + 5 deflection]
FFAC: 39 [10 base + 5 enhancement to natural AC + 4 unnamed to natural AC + 5 AC + 5 enhancement to AC + 3 unnamed (defending armor spikes) + 5 deflection +2 Shield AC]
**Note on AC Buffs: The above AC figures are "unbuffed." If under the effects of control body (as is the routine after 15th level), all of the above ACs increase by 6. (+11 int -5 dex). This brings the typical total AC to 50 when buffed. Furthermore, if one overchannels a force screen to 17 pp the gish gains an additional +8 shield bonus (a net increase of +6). Thus the most buffed AC this character can achieve is 56. This is possible without resorting to any forms that grant a natural armor bonus.
Saves:
Fort: 20 [9 Base+ 5 resistance + 5 consitution+1 competance]
Conditional Modifiers: +2 insight vs. lawful effects
Ref: 18 [7 Base + 5 resistance + 5 dexterity+1 competance]
Conditional Modifiers: +2 insight vs. lawful effects
Will: 25 [15 Base + 5 resistance +4 wisdom +1 competance]
Conditional Modifiers: +4 competance vs. compulsions and mind-affecting effects (lucid buffer), +2 insight bonus vs. compulsions or lawful effects.

The Gingerbread Man: Nimble Psicrystal
Grants the Chrono-Legionnaire +2 to all initiative checks.
Important Abilities: Share powers
For style points, we recommend making this little guy small, humanoid, and brown.

BUILD PROGRESSION:

Nomad: Psionic Weapon, (Overchannel), (Practiced Manifester),
Nomad:
Nomad: Psi-Crystal Affinity
Ranger: (Track)
Nomad:
Anarchic Initiate: Psionic Meditiation, [Chaotic Surge]
Anarchic Initiate
Anarchic Initiate: [Wild Surge +1, Psychic Enervation]
Illithid Slayer: Deep Impact, [Favored Enemy (Illithid +2)], [Enemy Sense]
Illithid Slayer: [Lucid Buffer]
Fighter: (Power Attack)
Illithid Slayer: Leap Attack, [Favored Enemy (Illithid +4)]
Illithid Slayer:
Illithid Slayer:
Illithid Slayer: [Cerebral Blind], Expanded Knowledge (Control Body)
Illithid Slayer: [Favored Enemy (Illithid +6)
Illithid Slayer:
Illithid Slayer: Expanded Knowledge (Schism), [Cerebral Immunity]
Illithid Slayer: , [Favored Enemy (Illithid +8)]
Anarchic Initiate: [Clarity of Confusion]

BAB: 17
Manifester Level: 17
Effective Manifester Level: 20
Power Points: 360 [250 + 11*(EML/2)]


BUILD PROGRESSION:

Ranger: Improved Bull Rush, (Track), (Power Attack),
Nomad: (Overchannel)
Nomad: Psi-Crystal Affinity
Nomad:
Nomad:
Anarchic Initiate: Practiced Manifester, [Chaotic Surge]
Anarchic Initiate
Anarchic Initiate: [Wild Surge +1, Psychic Enervation]
Illithid Slayer: EK (Psionic Lion's Charge), [Favored Enemy (Illithid +2)], [Enemy Sense]
Illithid Slayer: [Lucid Buffer]
Fighter: (Shock Trooper)
Illithid Slayer: Leap Attack, [Favored Enemy (Illithid +4)]
Illithid Slayer:
Illithid Slayer:
Illithid Slayer: [Cerebral Blind], Expanded Knowledge (Control Body)
Illithid Slayer: [Favored Enemy (Illithid +6)
Illithid Slayer: [Breach Power Resistance]
Illithid Slayer: Expanded Knowledge (Schism), [Cerebral Immunity]
Illithid Slayer: [Blast Feedback], [Favored Enemy (Illithid +8)]
Anarchic Initiate: [Clarity of Confusion]


Personally, I prefer this build as it has better power attack support than the original. This build is not capable of reliably hiting a Heca. With a brilliant weapon the best bonus it can get is a +51 to attack, versus the Heca's 58 brilliant AC. Not bad, but not perfect.

Against less... rediculous foes... this build has incredible preformance. Power attack penalties are absorbed by the heedless charge from shock trooper, and psionic lion's charge allows for extremely deadly charges. Against weakly armored opponents one can easily deal a lot of damage, to wit:

Assuming all hits and same buffs as in the Heca busting trick (except schism & bless weapon). Drop the valorous enhancement, outsider bane, and mage bane enhancements in favor of speed. This is just to make the build even more acceptable in any campaign. Now, the build is non-setting specific. Removing the cold iron material type can reduce costs greatly.

1. Swift action psionic lion's charge (augmented to 20 pp)
2. Headless Leap Attack.

Attack Bonus: [b]+44/+44/+39/+34 [17 base + 13 int + 5 enhancement + 2 charging + 7 insight]

Damage: 590 [5*(17 unnamed (psionic lion's charge) + 68 power attack + 13 int + 5 enhancement + 8 insight + 2d6 base)]

Even in an AMF the damage & attack is considerable:

Attack Bonus in AMF: +21 [17 base + 2 strength + 2 charging]

Damage: 78 [68 power attack + 3 strength + 2d6 base]


Class Requirements:
Anarchic Initiate (CPsi): Knowledge (Planes) 8, Knowledge (psionics) 8, Overchannel feat;
Illithid Slayer (XPH): Knowledge (Dungeoneering) 4, Track feat;


--------Tactical Stats-------------Saves------------
1.--BAB: 0,---ML 1, EML--1,--Fort: 0, Ref: 0, Will: 2
2.--BAB: 1,---ML 2, EML--2,--Fort: 0, Ref: 0, Will: 3
3.--BAB: 1,---ML 3, EML--3,--Fort: 1, Ref: 1, Will: 3
4.--BAB: 2,---ML 3, EML--4,--Fort: 3, Ref: 3, Will: 3
5.--BAB: 3,---ML 4, EML--5,--Fort: 3, Ref: 3, Will: 5
6.--BAB: 3,---ML 5, EML--6,--Fort: 3, Ref: 3, Will: 6
7.--BAB: 4,---ML 6, EML--7,--Fort: 3, Ref: 3, Will: 8
8.--BAB: 5,---ML 7, EML--8,--Fort: 4, Ref: 4, Will: 8
9.--BAB: 6,---ML 7, EML--9,--Fort: 4, Ref: 4, Will: 9
10. BAB: 7,---ML 8, EML-10,--Fort: 4, Ref: 4, Will: 10
11.-BAB: 8,---ML 8, EML-11,--Fort: 6, Ref: 4, Will: 10
12.-BAB: 9,---ML 9, EML-12,--Fort: 7, Ref: 5, Will: 10
13.-BAB: 10,-ML 10, EML-13,--Fort: 7, Ref: 5, Will: 11
14.-BAB: 11,-ML 11, EML-14,--Fort: 7, Ref: 5, Will: 11
15.-BAB: 12,-ML 12, EML-15,--Fort: 8, Ref: 6, Will: 13
16.-BAB: 13,-ML 13, EML-16,--Fort: 8, Ref: 6, Will: 13
17.-BAB: 14,-ML 14, EML-17,--Fort: 8, Ref: 6, Will: 14
18.-BAB: 15,-ML 15, EML-18,--Fort: 9, Ref: 7, Will: 14
19.-BAB: 16,-ML 16, EML-19,--Fort: 9, Ref: 7, Will: 14
20.-BAB: 17,-ML 17, EML-20,--Fort: 9, Ref: 7, Will: 15


Notable Class/Feat Abilities:
Wild Surge +1: By paying a 5% probability of dazing myself I gain +1 ML for all purposes and 1 free point of augmentation.
Chaotic Surge: By using either wild surge or overchannel I can opt to roll a d% dice to gain the following effects:
25% probability that my wild surge/overchannel is unnaffected and functions normally
25% probability that my wild surge/overchannel produces a power with its numeric effects reduced by 50%
25% probability that my wild surge/overchannel produces a power with its numeric effects increased by 50%
25% probability that my wild surge/overchannel produces a power with its numeric effects maximized
Breach Power Resistance: Works against spell resistance as well when magic-psionic clarity is in effect. Every time the character succeeds in a hit in melee combat against an enemy he reduces their SR/PR by 1. These SR/PR reductions are cumulative and last 12 hours. The character must be psionically focused for this ability to function.
Cerebral Immunity: Basically I get a supernatural mind-blank effect that cannot be dispelled while I am psionically focused. Immunity to mind-affecting abilities is pretty handy. Note that the character can selectively allow certain mind-affecting powers to affect him, making this more versatile than mind-blank.
Leap Attack + Power Attack + Deep Impact: Nothing like a 4:1 return on a power attack with a two-handed weapon, especially when you resolve the attack as a touch attack.



(The following list is in the order in which the powers are acquired. The level of the power and which level it was obtained at is noted)

Vigor [1st level power, obtained at Character Level 1]
Prescience Offensive [1st level power, obtained at Character Level 1]
Precognition Offensive [1st level power, obtained at Character Level 1]
Force Screen [1st level power, obtained at Character Level 2]
Mind Thrust [1st level power, obtained at Character Level 2]
Evade Attack [2nd level power, obtained at Character Level 3]
Dimension Swap [2nd level power, obtained at Character Level 3]
Energy Stun [2nd level power, obtained at Character Level 5]
Damp Power [2nd level power, obtained at Character Level 5]
Dimension Twister [3rd level power, obtained at Character Level 6]
Dispel Psionics [3rd level power, obtained at Character Level 6]
Touch Sight [3rd level power, obtained at Character Level 7]
Energy Burst [3rd level power, obtained at Character Level 7]
Psionic Fly [4th level power, obtained at Character Level 8]
Detect Hostile Intent [4th level power, obtained at Character Level 8]
Psionic Dimension Door [4th level power, obtained at Character Level 10]
Telekenetic Maneuver [4th level power, obtained at Character Level 10]
Anticipatory Strike [5th level power, obtained at Character Level 12]
Celestial Conduit [5th level power, obtained at Character Level 12]
Psionic Teleport [5th level power, obtained at Character Level 13]
Teleport Trigger [5th level power, obtained at Character Level 13]
Inconsistant Location [6th level power, obtained at Character Level 14]
Solicit Psi-Crystal [3rd level power, obtained at Character Level 15]
Control Body [4th level power, obtained at Character Level 15]
Retrieve [6th level power, obtained at Character Level 15]
Divert Teleport [7th level power, obtained at Character Level 16]
Temporal Reiteration [5th level power, obtained at Character Level 17]
Energy Conversion [7th level power, obtained at Character Level 17]
True Metabolism [8th level power, obtained at Character Level 18]
Schism [4th level power, obtained at Character Level 18]
Mind over Energy [6th level power, obtained at Character Level 19]
Recall Death [8th level power, obtained at Character Level 19]
Assimilate[9th level power, obtained at Character Level 20]



Total Skill Points: 186

Just the skill ranks are provided below. Notable skills will include bonuses (at 20th level).

Jump: 32 [23 ranks +4 speed + 5 STR]
Knowledge [Psionics]: 8
Knowledge [Planes]: 8
Concentration: 23
Psicraft: 16
Survival: 23
Listen: 21
Spot: 21
Diplomacy: 25 [23 ranks +2 Cha]




Essentially, psionics have a little advantage over arcane, despite the deluge of broken spells, feats, and PrCs available to arcanists: action novas and power versatility.

Action gaining tricks:
Temporal Acceleration: (Available 14th level) It's just better than time stop for so many reasons, let me count the ways:
It's takes a swift action to manifest, so after you gain all those rounds for buffing, you can still take a full round attack
it's available at 11 ML, unlike time stop which is availabe at 17th CL at the earliest
Augmentable (read adjustable) number of rounds gained. Only need one round? Why spend too many pp? The base cost is only 11 pp.
Control Body + Solicit Psicrystal (Available 15th level): Basically this trick gives the psion one full round of mental actions each round (which he uses to regain focus and manifest powers) and one full round of physical actions each round (which he uses to attack with). It's like a two-for-one deal.
Schism (Available 18th level): It's really quite simple; you manifest this power and get a free standard action each round at a -6 ML penalty. Great for on the fly buffing. It lasts rounds per level making it vastly superior to the arcane celerity, which grants only one standard action. Plus it's only a fourth level power.


Power Versatility
If you are unfamiliar with psionics, I will inform you of the wonders that are available to psions here. Powers can be augmented. This means that your first level powers can be as good as your higher level powers. A first level mind thrust can deal 20d10 at 20th level (if you spend 20 pp). This means that the number of powers a psion knows is not at all comparable to a wizard. A wizard's magic missile just doesn't deliver at 20th level, but a psion's mind thrust can. Bear in mind that to spend 20 pp on a given power one must have 20 Manifester Levels to do so.

Also, a psion can use his power points on any power he knows. So, like a sorcerer he is spontaneous. But it's better than a sorcerer, because his powers aren't locked by level. If he likes a psion can spend all his pp on really high level (or highly augmented) powers several times a day, or can conserve his power points and manifest at a diminished level. So his pp expendature can be matched to whatever the DM throws at you. Unlike the sorcerer a psion has no difficulty of spending all his pp in a day, and so he attains a higher efficiency of his resources. Waste not want not is the essential motto of a psion. Why end the day with a lot of 1st or 2nd level spell slots?


[b]Tactical Advantage: Teleportation

Divert Teleport + Dimensional Twister: Requires a single target make two will saves or take damage (augmentable, minimum 5d6) and be teleported to some location within sight and medium range. Consumes a standard and immediate action.
Divert Teleport + Psicrystal Share Powers: The Gingerbread Man provides the Chrono-Legionnaire with another immediate action to redirect teleportations with.
Retrieve: If I see it, it's mine. Any object that weighs 10 lbs/level within sight (even attended objects) can be teleported to my hand with a failed will save on the part of the object.
Dimension Swap + Divert Teleport: Swap your allies places and then divert the teleportation effect to anywhere within sight and medium range. Essentially you can get your friends (or yourself and a friend) anywhere on the battle field with a standard and an immediate action or two.
Teleport Trigger + Divert Teleport: Want to get a way, but not that far away? Teleport trigger is an XP-free teleport contingency that lasts hours per level & divert teleport is a very useful power that lasts 10 mins/ level. Mix the two and you can avoid one really sticky situation per encounter without having to leave the encounter entirely.
Inconstant Location + Divert Teleport: Inconstant Location, once set up (standard action to manifest) gives the Legionnaire access to a swift action teleport. The normal range of this teleport is limited to the length of his movement speed, but with the Gingerbread Man using Divert Teleport as an immediate action, this range increased to well over 100 feet. Best of all, this doesn't use up any of their standard or move actions.


Now for a little stunt. We posit that the following trick is legal and within a high possibility of success; I give you:

How to kill a CR 57 Hecatoncheires
(AKA: Night-Crawler style Uber Teleportation Spring-Attacking)

The Chrono-Legionaire has several attack options, which I will present below:

The Boss-killing attack Routine
Works well against opponents with high AC and extremely dangerous offensive capabilities. For this technique to function to its maximal effect, a large combat area is needed. All power point costs are reduced by 1 because of the Torc of Power Preservation worn.

Assume the following already active buffs:
>> Assimilate (used bag of tricks to summon a small animal and toasted it) less than an hour in advance. (lasts 1 hour) [16 pp]
>>Teleport trigger (lasts 20 hours) [12 pp]
1.
-- Swift Action Temporal Acceleration (15 pp)
>Precognition Offensive (19 pp), gain psionic focus, swift action manifest another Temporal Acceleration (19 pp)
>Divert Teleport
>>Apply oil of bless weapon, move towards charging distance (10 feet away)
>>Schism, move towards charging distance (10 feet away)
>>Control Body, solicit psi-crystal, move towards charging distance (10 feet away)
--STD action: Prescience Offensive (19 pp),
--Full Attack Charge the foe: Leap Attack, Power attack all 17 BAB, Expend Focus for deep impact
--Schismed STD action: dimension door away [6 pp]
2.
--Mental Schismed STD action: Dimension Swap
--Mental Immediate action: Divert Teleport to within 10 feet of Hecatoncheires
--Ready Mental Regular STD action dimension door away (upon completion of charge or upon receiving a successful attack)
--Mental Move action: regain focus
--Mental Free Action Expend Focus (for deep impact)
--Physical Charge (power attacking, leap attacking, jumping the whole way (10 feet) with no running start).
>>Readied action triggered, d-door away.

Rinse and Repeat #2 until the foe is dead. (You have 20 rounds before schism runs out).

Why does this sequence work? With assimilate our initiative modifier goes up to +9, which is just 1 under the Heca's initiative bonus. I think it's fair to say that whomever wins is initiative is primarily determined by a die roll. If all else fails, we have a teleport trigger in place that will whisk us to safety at the first sign of danger. We'll just try again in a few rounds. After everything starts rolling we begin the TP in TP out attack sequence. We'll always be able to TP outside the Heca's charging range (which is 200 feet). Every round we have a readied dimension door prepared against his possible readied action that he might have to attack us. So, as long as we have a clear area (of 200+ feet), we'll never get touched by the beast. As you can see below, we deal enough damage (with a high enough probability of success) to take him out in under 10 rounds.


Attack bonuses:
Great Sword: +32 [17 BAB + 2 charging + 13 INT + 9* Enhancement + 7 insight -17 power attack + 1 competance] (We need to roll a 2 or better to hit him -- a one automatically fails anyways) [Since we have 5% failure rate, we assume that one fails. So we assume 9 successful attacks in 10 rounds]
*Because of outsider & mage bane the enhancement is +9, making this an effective epic weapon. Given that it is already cold-iron and bless weapon makes it good, we now bypass his DR.


Damage Calculations:
Sword: 2x[2d6 Base + 9 enhancement 17*4 Power Attack + 8 insight + 13 INT] + 4d6 (mage and outsider bane)


Total Average (assuming all hits): 224 on one attack per round. With the Heca's 50 Fast Healing, that's only 174 net damage per round. Given that the Heca has 1048 hitpoints, we can take him out in 6 successful attacks. (With one assumed failure this takes 7 rounds).

Each round (after the initial buffing round) we must spend 8 (6 for d-door + 2 for swap) power points per round. So over 7 rounds we spend 56 power points (plus the initial 108 pp counting the assimilate and divert teleport). So, all in all, we spend 164 pp (under half our total pp for the day) to kill a monster which is nearly three times our CR. Given the right environment I feel confident that we have at least a 75 to 90% chance of success the first time around, with almost a 0% chance of death.

The What Ifs:
That's a lot of buffs. What if they somehow get hosed?
Although it's expensive, we can maintain a temporal acceleration for as many rounds as we need to rebuff with temporal iteration. This increases buffing costs by 8 pp per round, but it can be done. This is really only economical for extending temporal acceleration 1 round, however. If one wants to extend the acceleration for more than one round nested accelerations become more economical (15 pp for a nested 2 round acceleration as opposed to 16 pp for two temporal iterations, 19 pp for a nested 3 round acceleration as opposed to 24 for 3 temporal iterations.) Bottom-line: the Chrono-Legionaire can re-buff at the drop of a hat.
What if the Hecatoncheires summons his buddy?
More XP for us. The Hecatoncheires is Huge, meaning there's a decent space we can move around in where he grants us full cover against his brother's attacks. We kill the first, 'port away to safety, reset the necessary buffs (the bless weapon oil, most importantly) and 'port back to restart the routine and kill Heca number 2. Failing that, just port away and come back when Heca 2's summon ends.
What if the Hecatoncheires uses his Fly spell-like ability?
Psionic Fly is on the Legionnaire's powers known list. In fact, moving to three dimensions makes the summoning ability of the hecatoncheires less useful, as now there is that much more space in which to manuver where we are covered. There's no restriction on teleporting to a point in open space.
What if both Heca's ready actions?
It remains that careful teleportation placement means only one can target us at a time.
Divert Teleport says you must have studied the area carefully.
You didn't read all of the power description. It also says that being very familiar will suffice. When one reads the teleport spell description one can readily see that merely seeing the target location qualifies us to be "very familiar."
Massive Area Effects - and by massive I mean stuff like Apocalypse from the Sky (BoVD, thankfully banned) or Eruption (Serpent Kingdoms). When we've got an area of square miles, you might be lucky enough to catch the Legionnaire by surprise.
Karmic Strike - this annoying feat can give foes reactive attacks against the Legionnaire beyond what readied defenses can provide. Still, the Legionnaire does a lot more damage in a single hit than the Karmic Strike likely will, and they still have to hit the AC of 44 (or 56 if properly buffed).
Mobs with tons of readied actions - since Synchronicity is banned, this is the only way to get enough readied actions to possibly target the Legionnaire. It may be difficult for more than a few to notice and attack the Legionnaire while he guerilla bombs them with Energy Burst, and they still have to hit that AC.
Dimensional Anchor and Dimensional Lock - these teleportation-negating spells are the Legionnaire's Achilles heel. Fortunately, you can't 'port into a D-Locked area by accident. Dimensional Anchor is more dangerous, offering no saving throw and requiring the Legionnaire to dispel his own buffs in order to remove it. The Legionnaire can supply his own dispels and pump them off in rapid order if need be. The best defense would be using the Legionnaire's Psionic Fly and a good impacting magebane charge to kill any threatening caster in one good smack.

Simply put, the reason this guy is the ultimate gish is because of his adaptability in any campaign setting. If one removes the valorous weapon (which isn't even necessary to kill the Heca, but speeds up the process greatly), then this build is non-setting specific. Furthermore, this build does not need persistant magic to be a viable gish. At twelfth level he gains the ability to make deep impact leap attacks, which means he's quite a capable in melee early on. This is a build that is themed on teleportive mobility and the Chrono-Legionnaire delivers on this promise. Not only is the Chrono-legionnaire capable of teleporting himself, but he can teleport his enemies, his enemies equipment, or his allies.

Aberrations/Magical Beasts etc: Against mind-flayers the Chrono-Legionnaire is incredible, due to his levels in Illithid Slayer. Beyond that, the chrono-legionnaire's leap attack routine and breach power resistance enables him to bypass many of the defenses which are common among Abberations & magical beasts (namely natural armor and SR). Furthermore, the Chrono-Legionnaire is immune to mind-affecting effects (while focused), which renders him invulnerable to many of the more insidious offensive capabilities of Abberations. The magebane weapon enhancement is quite helpful here.

Constructs: The difficulty of constructs is their immunity to most magical forms of attack and their high physical prowess. Enter leap attack & deep impact once again. Due to the typically low touch AC of constructs, our intrepid hero can make quick mince-meat of his automaton foes.

Dragons: Dragon claim a high mobility and great physical prowess. They lack good touch AC, however, which makes them vulnerable to the Chrono-Legionnaire's deep impact trick. The chrono-legionnaire claims a higher mobility than even the fastest dragons, enabling him to keep outside of their range. Make no mistake, dragons are potent foes. The magebane weapon enhancement is quite helpful here. The Legionnaire has flight as well, in case the dragon tries to go aerial, and breach power resistance to finish things if necessary.

Elementals/Outsiders: Elementals are not a real problem, but outsiders are reknown for their deadly SLAs, energy resistances, and physical prowess. Here celestial conduit is a nice power, as it offers D6 per pp damage and the damage type is "positive energy." Deep impact + leap attack is still effective against most of these foes, as is evidenced by the Chrono-Legionnaire's ability to take out the grand-daddy of all outsiders: the Hecatoncheires. The magebane & evil outsider bane weapon enhancements are quite helpful here.

Undead: The Chrono-Legionnaire does not rely on critical hits or necromantic effects, so undead have little defense against the majority of the Chrono-Legionnaire's tactics. Furthermore celestial conduit deals 1d6+2 damage per pp against undead, making it an attractive means to their destruction. The magebane weapon enhancement is quite helpful here.

Traps: If a trap is suspected, the chrono-legionnaire typically teleports past it. This is admittedly a weak point in this build. However, readied dimensions swaps and immediate action diverts mean that the Gingerbread Man can scout ahead yet be immediately pulled back to safety in case of emergency

Political Intrigue & Diplomatic Maneuvers: Despite his mediocre charisma, the Chrono-Legionnaire has maxed out his ranks in diplomacy and can deal with moderately sticky diplomatic situations. He also has the Detect Hostile Intent power on his list, which helps ... well... detect hostiles. This can be ever so invaluable for quick diplomatic decision making. He's no diplomancer & knows when to make way for the party bard. That said, he can escape awkward situations incredibly fast.

A BBEG/ Mastermind/ Warlord: I believe the anti-Heca trick shown above is an adequate display of the Chrono-Legionnaire's prowess against single opponents.

Mobs: Energy burst offers a 40' radius burst centered on the manifester and deals d6 energy damage of any type of energy (specified upon manifestation) against any foes in that area. Can't ask for much better area damage than that. The saving throw can be made to be a fort or ref save, and can be enhanced by chaotic surge (described above in class abilities of note).

Overwhelming Odds: No one can get out of dodge like the Chrono-Legionnaire. An XP-free contingent teleport (teleport trigger) is key here. Dimension door and divert teleport are also good means of getting out fast. Anticipatory Strike also means an immediate action "I take next round's turn NOW" when he really needs to leave.

Meeting Constraints:
The Optimization Constraints:
Melee Damage or Non-Magical Ranged Damage Capability:

The leap attack + deep impact routine is a good way to meet this constraint. With 17 BAB, the chrono-legionnaire is quite capable in normal comabat as well.
Defensive Capability: Immunity to mind-affecting effects is nice, his AC is over 40 without applying any buffs and can go into the high 50s with buffs.
Magical Offensive Capability: 9th level powers, 360 pp. He's not as good as a straight psion, but he's pretty darn good.
Tactical Advantage: Telekentic maneuvers (via the power), diverted dimensional twisters, and retrieve make this guy quite capable of befuddling and disabling his foes at a range. Nothing says ownage quite like being damaged and teleported over 300' feet in the same round.
Party Benefit: Psionics is not reknown for buffing others, but dimension swap and some of the tactical maneuvers above make the Chrono-Legionnaire a good guy to have around in combat. He's also able to serve as the party tracker with maxed out ranks in survival and the track feat. In a party with the Legionnaire, a party member is wherever he needs to be when he needs to be. Forcecage the fighter? No problem, he's out on the Legionnaire's turn without skipping a beat. The casters in the party will love how the Legionnaire reduces the PR of enemies too.
High Initiative: 2 + dex. Not astounding, but not bad.
Skillz: 186 skills is pretty decent. He's able to cover all the necessary bases and have some left over for things like maxed out tracking and diplomacy.
Endurance: Not the strongest ability our character has, but I feel confident that he can handle 3-4 encounters per day and still kick butt -- provided these encounters aren't CR 57 Hecas...
Playable: The only combat weak area is the first six levels, however, during this time he is a quite functional psion. 12th level and beyond is where this build really excels.
Minimal Buffs: AMF is not good for this guy as he can't use deep impact in an AMF, but he's still got 17 BAB and decent physical stats. He wouldn't fight a barbarian in an AMF if he could help it.

Additional Restrictions:
Powerful Magic: Able to manifest 9th level powers.
High Base Attack: 17 BAB by 20th level.
No ASF: Powers are not subject to ASF.
High Armor Class: Without buffs he has 44 AC, which meets the greater than or equal to 40 constraint.
High Damage: He can deal over 200 damage reliably against anything with a touch AC below 34 for at least 40 rounds per day while also teleporting in and out each round (with a TP range of 300+ feet).
No Form Altering: Just say no. He doesn't even have access to such abilities.


Conclusion:
Psi-Gish are fairly limited in their abilities when compared to Arcane-based gish, but I hope this entry has demonstrated some of the unique capabilities that are available to psionics. First and foremost is the incredibly powerful and versatile control body + schism + solicit psi-crystal trick, which is employed here. Nothing is better than taking a full round attack, 2 standard actions, and a mental move-action every round when the going gets tough.

Books Used:
XPH: Slayer, Nomad, & most powers & feats
PHB
DMG: Most magic items
MiniHB: Belt of Magnificence
UE: Valorous weapon enhancement
CPsi: Anarchic Initiate, various powers

CTLC
2010-02-24, 07:43 PM
Chrono-Legionnaire is just your thing. Basically Nomad Psion with the following build:
Ranger 1/Psion 5/Slayer 10/Anarchic Initiate 4

Get Deep Impact or Shock Trooper, Leap Attack, Power Attack. Use Divert Teleport along with Inconstant Location means you get to teleport a lot. You can use Control Body with Solicit Psicrystal to effectively use Int for attacking while retaining his own actions for manifesting each round.


Here's the original post with the original build (it's a build by Tleilaxu_Ghost and Radical Taoist):
Character Name: The Chrono-Legionaire
System: Faerun
Polling: For Entry in both Restricted and Original Polls
http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/screenshots/pcnc/sketch03.jpg
"Run, Run, just as fast as you can! You can't catch me; I'm the ginger-bread man!"

Brief Description & Thematic Purpose: We didn't try to go for the ultimate stat monster with the most buffs, we went for the ultimate in mobility. The chrono-legionaire is capable of teleporting in (at medium range) and teleporting out at long range all while mixing in a full-round attack and regaining psionic focus in the same round. Psionics remain the king of long-term action novas.

Class/Levels: Nomad 3/Ranger 1/Nomad 1/Anarchic Initiate 3/Slayer 2/Fighter1/Slayer 8/Anarchic Initiate 1

Race: Human
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral

Ability Scores:
Str: 22 [14 + 6 enhancement + 2 Inherent] (6)
Dex: 20 [14 +6 enhancement] (6)
Con: 20 [14 +6 enhancement] (6)
Int: 32 [16 + 5 (Level Increases) +6 enhancement +5 inherent] (10)
Wis: 18 [12 + 6 enhancement] (4)
Cha: 14 [8 + 6 enhancement] (0)
**Note: if assimilate is successfully used, all stats gain a +4 unnamed bonus for one hour.

Belt of Magnificence +6 200,000 gp (MiniHB)
Cloak of Resistance +5, 25,000 gp (DMG)
Ring of Protection +5, 50,000 gp (DMG)
Spiked Mithril Breast Plate +5 with +3 weapon enhancement and Defending, 79,350 (DMG)
Skin of the Defender, 32000 gp (XPH)
Tome of Clear Thoughts +5, 137,500
Shirt of Natural Armor +5, 50,000 gp (DMG)
Cold-Iron Great Sword +5 Valorous Mage-bane Evil Outsider Bane, 145375 (XPH, DMG, CAdv, UE)
Potion of Bless Weapon x5 (CL 2) 500 (DMG)
Torc of Power Preservation 36,000 (DMG)
Ring of Force Shield 8500 (DMG)
Boots of Skating 7000 (XPH)
Bag of Tricks (grey) 900 (DMG)
Pale Green Ioun Stone 30000 (DMG)


Total: 755,925
Tactical Statistics
Hit points = 8 + 4d4+3d6+2d8+1d8+8d8+1d6 = 81 + 20xCON = 181
Initiative: +7 [Dex + 2 unnamed (psi-crystal)]
Move Speeds:
45 land
60 [Psionic Fly] Fly
AC: 44 [10 base + 5 enhancement to natural AC + 4 unnamed to natural AC + 5 AC + 5 enhancement to AC + 3 unnamed (defending armor spikes) + 5 deflection + 5 dex + 2 Shield AC]
TAC: 23 [10 base + 3 unnamed + 5 dex + 5 deflection]
FFAC: 39 [10 base + 5 enhancement to natural AC + 4 unnamed to natural AC + 5 AC + 5 enhancement to AC + 3 unnamed (defending armor spikes) + 5 deflection +2 Shield AC]
**Note on AC Buffs: The above AC figures are "unbuffed." If under the effects of control body (as is the routine after 15th level), all of the above ACs increase by 6. (+11 int -5 dex). This brings the typical total AC to 50 when buffed. Furthermore, if one overchannels a force screen to 17 pp the gish gains an additional +8 shield bonus (a net increase of +6). Thus the most buffed AC this character can achieve is 56. This is possible without resorting to any forms that grant a natural armor bonus.
Saves:
Fort: 20 [9 Base+ 5 resistance + 5 consitution+1 competance]
Conditional Modifiers: +2 insight vs. lawful effects
Ref: 18 [7 Base + 5 resistance + 5 dexterity+1 competance]
Conditional Modifiers: +2 insight vs. lawful effects
Will: 25 [15 Base + 5 resistance +4 wisdom +1 competance]
Conditional Modifiers: +4 competance vs. compulsions and mind-affecting effects (lucid buffer), +2 insight bonus vs. compulsions or lawful effects.

The Gingerbread Man: Nimble Psicrystal
Grants the Chrono-Legionnaire +2 to all initiative checks.
Important Abilities: Share powers
For style points, we recommend making this little guy small, humanoid, and brown.

BUILD PROGRESSION:

Nomad: Psionic Weapon, (Overchannel), (Practiced Manifester),
Nomad:
Nomad: Psi-Crystal Affinity
Ranger: (Track)
Nomad:
Anarchic Initiate: Psionic Meditiation, [Chaotic Surge]
Anarchic Initiate
Anarchic Initiate: [Wild Surge +1, Psychic Enervation]
Illithid Slayer: Deep Impact, [Favored Enemy (Illithid +2)], [Enemy Sense]
Illithid Slayer: [Lucid Buffer]
Fighter: (Power Attack)
Illithid Slayer: Leap Attack, [Favored Enemy (Illithid +4)]
Illithid Slayer:
Illithid Slayer:
Illithid Slayer: [Cerebral Blind], Expanded Knowledge (Control Body)
Illithid Slayer: [Favored Enemy (Illithid +6)
Illithid Slayer:
Illithid Slayer: Expanded Knowledge (Schism), [Cerebral Immunity]
Illithid Slayer: , [Favored Enemy (Illithid +8)]
Anarchic Initiate: [Clarity of Confusion]

BAB: 17
Manifester Level: 17
Effective Manifester Level: 20
Power Points: 360 [250 + 11*(EML/2)]


BUILD PROGRESSION:

Ranger: Improved Bull Rush, (Track), (Power Attack),
Nomad: (Overchannel)
Nomad: Psi-Crystal Affinity
Nomad:
Nomad:
Anarchic Initiate: Practiced Manifester, [Chaotic Surge]
Anarchic Initiate
Anarchic Initiate: [Wild Surge +1, Psychic Enervation]
Illithid Slayer: EK (Psionic Lion's Charge), [Favored Enemy (Illithid +2)], [Enemy Sense]
Illithid Slayer: [Lucid Buffer]
Fighter: (Shock Trooper)
Illithid Slayer: Leap Attack, [Favored Enemy (Illithid +4)]
Illithid Slayer:
Illithid Slayer:
Illithid Slayer: [Cerebral Blind], Expanded Knowledge (Control Body)
Illithid Slayer: [Favored Enemy (Illithid +6)
Illithid Slayer: [Breach Power Resistance]
Illithid Slayer: Expanded Knowledge (Schism), [Cerebral Immunity]
Illithid Slayer: [Blast Feedback], [Favored Enemy (Illithid +8)]
Anarchic Initiate: [Clarity of Confusion]


Personally, I prefer this build as it has better power attack support than the original. This build is not capable of reliably hiting a Heca. With a brilliant weapon the best bonus it can get is a +51 to attack, versus the Heca's 58 brilliant AC. Not bad, but not perfect.

Against less... rediculous foes... this build has incredible preformance. Power attack penalties are absorbed by the heedless charge from shock trooper, and psionic lion's charge allows for extremely deadly charges. Against weakly armored opponents one can easily deal a lot of damage, to wit:

Assuming all hits and same buffs as in the Heca busting trick (except schism & bless weapon). Drop the valorous enhancement, outsider bane, and mage bane enhancements in favor of speed. This is just to make the build even more acceptable in any campaign. Now, the build is non-setting specific. Removing the cold iron material type can reduce costs greatly.

1. Swift action psionic lion's charge (augmented to 20 pp)
2. Headless Leap Attack.

Attack Bonus: [b]+44/+44/+39/+34 [17 base + 13 int + 5 enhancement + 2 charging + 7 insight]

Damage: 590 [5*(17 unnamed (psionic lion's charge) + 68 power attack + 13 int + 5 enhancement + 8 insight + 2d6 base)]

Even in an AMF the damage & attack is considerable:

Attack Bonus in AMF: +21 [17 base + 2 strength + 2 charging]

Damage: 78 [68 power attack + 3 strength + 2d6 base]


Class Requirements:
Anarchic Initiate (CPsi): Knowledge (Planes) 8, Knowledge (psionics) 8, Overchannel feat;
Illithid Slayer (XPH): Knowledge (Dungeoneering) 4, Track feat;


--------Tactical Stats-------------Saves------------
1.--BAB: 0,---ML 1, EML--1,--Fort: 0, Ref: 0, Will: 2
2.--BAB: 1,---ML 2, EML--2,--Fort: 0, Ref: 0, Will: 3
3.--BAB: 1,---ML 3, EML--3,--Fort: 1, Ref: 1, Will: 3
4.--BAB: 2,---ML 3, EML--4,--Fort: 3, Ref: 3, Will: 3
5.--BAB: 3,---ML 4, EML--5,--Fort: 3, Ref: 3, Will: 5
6.--BAB: 3,---ML 5, EML--6,--Fort: 3, Ref: 3, Will: 6
7.--BAB: 4,---ML 6, EML--7,--Fort: 3, Ref: 3, Will: 8
8.--BAB: 5,---ML 7, EML--8,--Fort: 4, Ref: 4, Will: 8
9.--BAB: 6,---ML 7, EML--9,--Fort: 4, Ref: 4, Will: 9
10. BAB: 7,---ML 8, EML-10,--Fort: 4, Ref: 4, Will: 10
11.-BAB: 8,---ML 8, EML-11,--Fort: 6, Ref: 4, Will: 10
12.-BAB: 9,---ML 9, EML-12,--Fort: 7, Ref: 5, Will: 10
13.-BAB: 10,-ML 10, EML-13,--Fort: 7, Ref: 5, Will: 11
14.-BAB: 11,-ML 11, EML-14,--Fort: 7, Ref: 5, Will: 11
15.-BAB: 12,-ML 12, EML-15,--Fort: 8, Ref: 6, Will: 13
16.-BAB: 13,-ML 13, EML-16,--Fort: 8, Ref: 6, Will: 13
17.-BAB: 14,-ML 14, EML-17,--Fort: 8, Ref: 6, Will: 14
18.-BAB: 15,-ML 15, EML-18,--Fort: 9, Ref: 7, Will: 14
19.-BAB: 16,-ML 16, EML-19,--Fort: 9, Ref: 7, Will: 14
20.-BAB: 17,-ML 17, EML-20,--Fort: 9, Ref: 7, Will: 15


Notable Class/Feat Abilities:
Wild Surge +1: By paying a 5% probability of dazing myself I gain +1 ML for all purposes and 1 free point of augmentation.
Chaotic Surge: By using either wild surge or overchannel I can opt to roll a d% dice to gain the following effects:
25% probability that my wild surge/overchannel is unnaffected and functions normally
25% probability that my wild surge/overchannel produces a power with its numeric effects reduced by 50%
25% probability that my wild surge/overchannel produces a power with its numeric effects increased by 50%
25% probability that my wild surge/overchannel produces a power with its numeric effects maximized
Breach Power Resistance: Works against spell resistance as well when magic-psionic clarity is in effect. Every time the character succeeds in a hit in melee combat against an enemy he reduces their SR/PR by 1. These SR/PR reductions are cumulative and last 12 hours. The character must be psionically focused for this ability to function.
Cerebral Immunity: Basically I get a supernatural mind-blank effect that cannot be dispelled while I am psionically focused. Immunity to mind-affecting abilities is pretty handy. Note that the character can selectively allow certain mind-affecting powers to affect him, making this more versatile than mind-blank.
Leap Attack + Power Attack + Deep Impact: Nothing like a 4:1 return on a power attack with a two-handed weapon, especially when you resolve the attack as a touch attack.



(The following list is in the order in which the powers are acquired. The level of the power and which level it was obtained at is noted)

Vigor [1st level power, obtained at Character Level 1]
Prescience Offensive [1st level power, obtained at Character Level 1]
Precognition Offensive [1st level power, obtained at Character Level 1]
Force Screen [1st level power, obtained at Character Level 2]
Mind Thrust [1st level power, obtained at Character Level 2]
Evade Attack [2nd level power, obtained at Character Level 3]
Dimension Swap [2nd level power, obtained at Character Level 3]
Energy Stun [2nd level power, obtained at Character Level 5]
Damp Power [2nd level power, obtained at Character Level 5]
Dimension Twister [3rd level power, obtained at Character Level 6]
Dispel Psionics [3rd level power, obtained at Character Level 6]
Touch Sight [3rd level power, obtained at Character Level 7]
Energy Burst [3rd level power, obtained at Character Level 7]
Psionic Fly [4th level power, obtained at Character Level 8]
Detect Hostile Intent [4th level power, obtained at Character Level 8]
Psionic Dimension Door [4th level power, obtained at Character Level 10]
Telekenetic Maneuver [4th level power, obtained at Character Level 10]
Anticipatory Strike [5th level power, obtained at Character Level 12]
Celestial Conduit [5th level power, obtained at Character Level 12]
Psionic Teleport [5th level power, obtained at Character Level 13]
Teleport Trigger [5th level power, obtained at Character Level 13]
Inconsistant Location [6th level power, obtained at Character Level 14]
Solicit Psi-Crystal [3rd level power, obtained at Character Level 15]
Control Body [4th level power, obtained at Character Level 15]
Retrieve [6th level power, obtained at Character Level 15]
Divert Teleport [7th level power, obtained at Character Level 16]
Temporal Reiteration [5th level power, obtained at Character Level 17]
Energy Conversion [7th level power, obtained at Character Level 17]
True Metabolism [8th level power, obtained at Character Level 18]
Schism [4th level power, obtained at Character Level 18]
Mind over Energy [6th level power, obtained at Character Level 19]
Recall Death [8th level power, obtained at Character Level 19]
Assimilate[9th level power, obtained at Character Level 20]



Total Skill Points: 186

Just the skill ranks are provided below. Notable skills will include bonuses (at 20th level).

Jump: 32 [23 ranks +4 speed + 5 STR]
Knowledge [Psionics]: 8
Knowledge [Planes]: 8
Concentration: 23
Psicraft: 16
Survival: 23
Listen: 21
Spot: 21
Diplomacy: 25 [23 ranks +2 Cha]




Essentially, psionics have a little advantage over arcane, despite the deluge of broken spells, feats, and PrCs available to arcanists: action novas and power versatility.

Action gaining tricks:
Temporal Acceleration: (Available 14th level) It's just better than time stop for so many reasons, let me count the ways:
It's takes a swift action to manifest, so after you gain all those rounds for buffing, you can still take a full round attack
it's available at 11 ML, unlike time stop which is availabe at 17th CL at the earliest
Augmentable (read adjustable) number of rounds gained. Only need one round? Why spend too many pp? The base cost is only 11 pp.
Control Body + Solicit Psicrystal (Available 15th level): Basically this trick gives the psion one full round of mental actions each round (which he uses to regain focus and manifest powers) and one full round of physical actions each round (which he uses to attack with). It's like a two-for-one deal.
Schism (Available 18th level): It's really quite simple; you manifest this power and get a free standard action each round at a -6 ML penalty. Great for on the fly buffing. It lasts rounds per level making it vastly superior to the arcane celerity, which grants only one standard action. Plus it's only a fourth level power.


Power Versatility
If you are unfamiliar with psionics, I will inform you of the wonders that are available to psions here. Powers can be augmented. This means that your first level powers can be as good as your higher level powers. A first level mind thrust can deal 20d10 at 20th level (if you spend 20 pp). This means that the number of powers a psion knows is not at all comparable to a wizard. A wizard's magic missile just doesn't deliver at 20th level, but a psion's mind thrust can. Bear in mind that to spend 20 pp on a given power one must have 20 Manifester Levels to do so.

Also, a psion can use his power points on any power he knows. So, like a sorcerer he is spontaneous. But it's better than a sorcerer, because his powers aren't locked by level. If he likes a psion can spend all his pp on really high level (or highly augmented) powers several times a day, or can conserve his power points and manifest at a diminished level. So his pp expendature can be matched to whatever the DM throws at you. Unlike the sorcerer a psion has no difficulty of spending all his pp in a day, and so he attains a higher efficiency of his resources. Waste not want not is the essential motto of a psion. Why end the day with a lot of 1st or 2nd level spell slots?


[b]Tactical Advantage: Teleportation

Divert Teleport + Dimensional Twister: Requires a single target make two will saves or take damage (augmentable, minimum 5d6) and be teleported to some location within sight and medium range. Consumes a standard and immediate action.
Divert Teleport + Psicrystal Share Powers: The Gingerbread Man provides the Chrono-Legionnaire with another immediate action to redirect teleportations with.
Retrieve: If I see it, it's mine. Any object that weighs 10 lbs/level within sight (even attended objects) can be teleported to my hand with a failed will save on the part of the object.
Dimension Swap + Divert Teleport: Swap your allies places and then divert the teleportation effect to anywhere within sight and medium range. Essentially you can get your friends (or yourself and a friend) anywhere on the battle field with a standard and an immediate action or two.
Teleport Trigger + Divert Teleport: Want to get a way, but not that far away? Teleport trigger is an XP-free teleport contingency that lasts hours per level & divert teleport is a very useful power that lasts 10 mins/ level. Mix the two and you can avoid one really sticky situation per encounter without having to leave the encounter entirely.
Inconstant Location + Divert Teleport: Inconstant Location, once set up (standard action to manifest) gives the Legionnaire access to a swift action teleport. The normal range of this teleport is limited to the length of his movement speed, but with the Gingerbread Man using Divert Teleport as an immediate action, this range increased to well over 100 feet. Best of all, this doesn't use up any of their standard or move actions.


Now for a little stunt. We posit that the following trick is legal and within a high possibility of success; I give you:

How to kill a CR 57 Hecatoncheires
(AKA: Night-Crawler style Uber Teleportation Spring-Attacking)

The Chrono-Legionaire has several attack options, which I will present below:

The Boss-killing attack Routine
Works well against opponents with high AC and extremely dangerous offensive capabilities. For this technique to function to its maximal effect, a large combat area is needed. All power point costs are reduced by 1 because of the Torc of Power Preservation worn.

Assume the following already active buffs:
>> Assimilate (used bag of tricks to summon a small animal and toasted it) less than an hour in advance. (lasts 1 hour) [16 pp]
>>Teleport trigger (lasts 20 hours) [12 pp]
1.
-- Swift Action Temporal Acceleration (15 pp)
>Precognition Offensive (19 pp), gain psionic focus, swift action manifest another Temporal Acceleration (19 pp)
>Divert Teleport
>>Apply oil of bless weapon, move towards charging distance (10 feet away)
>>Schism, move towards charging distance (10 feet away)
>>Control Body, solicit psi-crystal, move towards charging distance (10 feet away)
--STD action: Prescience Offensive (19 pp),
--Full Attack Charge the foe: Leap Attack, Power attack all 17 BAB, Expend Focus for deep impact
--Schismed STD action: dimension door away [6 pp]
2.
--Mental Schismed STD action: Dimension Swap
--Mental Immediate action: Divert Teleport to within 10 feet of Hecatoncheires
--Ready Mental Regular STD action dimension door away (upon completion of charge or upon receiving a successful attack)
--Mental Move action: regain focus
--Mental Free Action Expend Focus (for deep impact)
--Physical Charge (power attacking, leap attacking, jumping the whole way (10 feet) with no running start).
>>Readied action triggered, d-door away.

Rinse and Repeat #2 until the foe is dead. (You have 20 rounds before schism runs out).

Why does this sequence work? With assimilate our initiative modifier goes up to +9, which is just 1 under the Heca's initiative bonus. I think it's fair to say that whomever wins is initiative is primarily determined by a die roll. If all else fails, we have a teleport trigger in place that will whisk us to safety at the first sign of danger. We'll just try again in a few rounds. After everything starts rolling we begin the TP in TP out attack sequence. We'll always be able to TP outside the Heca's charging range (which is 200 feet). Every round we have a readied dimension door prepared against his possible readied action that he might have to attack us. So, as long as we have a clear area (of 200+ feet), we'll never get touched by the beast. As you can see below, we deal enough damage (with a high enough probability of success) to take him out in under 10 rounds.


Attack bonuses:
Great Sword: +32 [17 BAB + 2 charging + 13 INT + 9* Enhancement + 7 insight -17 power attack + 1 competance] (We need to roll a 2 or better to hit him -- a one automatically fails anyways) [Since we have 5% failure rate, we assume that one fails. So we assume 9 successful attacks in 10 rounds]
*Because of outsider & mage bane the enhancement is +9, making this an effective epic weapon. Given that it is already cold-iron and bless weapon makes it good, we now bypass his DR.


Damage Calculations:
Sword: 2x[2d6 Base + 9 enhancement 17*4 Power Attack + 8 insight + 13 INT] + 4d6 (mage and outsider bane)


Total Average (assuming all hits): 224 on one attack per round. With the Heca's 50 Fast Healing, that's only 174 net damage per round. Given that the Heca has 1048 hitpoints, we can take him out in 6 successful attacks. (With one assumed failure this takes 7 rounds).

Each round (after the initial buffing round) we must spend 8 (6 for d-door + 2 for swap) power points per round. So over 7 rounds we spend 56 power points (plus the initial 108 pp counting the assimilate and divert teleport). So, all in all, we spend 164 pp (under half our total pp for the day) to kill a monster which is nearly three times our CR. Given the right environment I feel confident that we have at least a 75 to 90% chance of success the first time around, with almost a 0% chance of death.

The What Ifs:
That's a lot of buffs. What if they somehow get hosed?
Although it's expensive, we can maintain a temporal acceleration for as many rounds as we need to rebuff with temporal iteration. This increases buffing costs by 8 pp per round, but it can be done. This is really only economical for extending temporal acceleration 1 round, however. If one wants to extend the acceleration for more than one round nested accelerations become more economical (15 pp for a nested 2 round acceleration as opposed to 16 pp for two temporal iterations, 19 pp for a nested 3 round acceleration as opposed to 24 for 3 temporal iterations.) Bottom-line: the Chrono-Legionaire can re-buff at the drop of a hat.
What if the Hecatoncheires summons his buddy?
More XP for us. The Hecatoncheires is Huge, meaning there's a decent space we can move around in where he grants us full cover against his brother's attacks. We kill the first, 'port away to safety, reset the necessary buffs (the bless weapon oil, most importantly) and 'port back to restart the routine and kill Heca number 2. Failing that, just port away and come back when Heca 2's summon ends.
What if the Hecatoncheires uses his Fly spell-like ability?
Psionic Fly is on the Legionnaire's powers known list. In fact, moving to three dimensions makes the summoning ability of the hecatoncheires less useful, as now there is that much more space in which to manuver where we are covered. There's no restriction on teleporting to a point in open space.
What if both Heca's ready actions?
It remains that careful teleportation placement means only one can target us at a time.
Divert Teleport says you must have studied the area carefully.
You didn't read all of the power description. It also says that being very familiar will suffice. When one reads the teleport spell description one can readily see that merely seeing the target location qualifies us to be "very familiar."
Massive Area Effects - and by massive I mean stuff like Apocalypse from the Sky (BoVD, thankfully banned) or Eruption (Serpent Kingdoms). When we've got an area of square miles, you might be lucky enough to catch the Legionnaire by surprise.
Karmic Strike - this annoying feat can give foes reactive attacks against the Legionnaire beyond what readied defenses can provide. Still, the Legionnaire does a lot more damage in a single hit than the Karmic Strike likely will, and they still have to hit the AC of 44 (or 56 if properly buffed).
Mobs with tons of readied actions - since Synchronicity is banned, this is the only way to get enough readied actions to possibly target the Legionnaire. It may be difficult for more than a few to notice and attack the Legionnaire while he guerilla bombs them with Energy Burst, and they still have to hit that AC.
Dimensional Anchor and Dimensional Lock - these teleportation-negating spells are the Legionnaire's Achilles heel. Fortunately, you can't 'port into a D-Locked area by accident. Dimensional Anchor is more dangerous, offering no saving throw and requiring the Legionnaire to dispel his own buffs in order to remove it. The Legionnaire can supply his own dispels and pump them off in rapid order if need be. The best defense would be using the Legionnaire's Psionic Fly and a good impacting magebane charge to kill any threatening caster in one good smack.

Simply put, the reason this guy is the ultimate gish is because of his adaptability in any campaign setting. If one removes the valorous weapon (which isn't even necessary to kill the Heca, but speeds up the process greatly), then this build is non-setting specific. Furthermore, this build does not need persistant magic to be a viable gish. At twelfth level he gains the ability to make deep impact leap attacks, which means he's quite a capable in melee early on. This is a build that is themed on teleportive mobility and the Chrono-Legionnaire delivers on this promise. Not only is the Chrono-legionnaire capable of teleporting himself, but he can teleport his enemies, his enemies equipment, or his allies.

Aberrations/Magical Beasts etc: Against mind-flayers the Chrono-Legionnaire is incredible, due to his levels in Illithid Slayer. Beyond that, the chrono-legionnaire's leap attack routine and breach power resistance enables him to bypass many of the defenses which are common among Abberations & magical beasts (namely natural armor and SR). Furthermore, the Chrono-Legionnaire is immune to mind-affecting effects (while focused), which renders him invulnerable to many of the more insidious offensive capabilities of Abberations. The magebane weapon enhancement is quite helpful here.

Constructs: The difficulty of constructs is their immunity to most magical forms of attack and their high physical prowess. Enter leap attack & deep impact once again. Due to the typically low touch AC of constructs, our intrepid hero can make quick mince-meat of his automaton foes.

Dragons: Dragon claim a high mobility and great physical prowess. They lack good touch AC, however, which makes them vulnerable to the Chrono-Legionnaire's deep impact trick. The chrono-legionnaire claims a higher mobility than even the fastest dragons, enabling him to keep outside of their range. Make no mistake, dragons are potent foes. The magebane weapon enhancement is quite helpful here. The Legionnaire has flight as well, in case the dragon tries to go aerial, and breach power resistance to finish things if necessary.

Elementals/Outsiders: Elementals are not a real problem, but outsiders are reknown for their deadly SLAs, energy resistances, and physical prowess. Here celestial conduit is a nice power, as it offers D6 per pp damage and the damage type is "positive energy." Deep impact + leap attack is still effective against most of these foes, as is evidenced by the Chrono-Legionnaire's ability to take out the grand-daddy of all outsiders: the Hecatoncheires. The magebane & evil outsider bane weapon enhancements are quite helpful here.

Undead: The Chrono-Legionnaire does not rely on critical hits or necromantic effects, so undead have little defense against the majority of the Chrono-Legionnaire's tactics. Furthermore celestial conduit deals 1d6+2 damage per pp against undead, making it an attractive means to their destruction. The magebane weapon enhancement is quite helpful here.

Traps: If a trap is suspected, the chrono-legionnaire typically teleports past it. This is admittedly a weak point in this build. However, readied dimensions swaps and immediate action diverts mean that the Gingerbread Man can scout ahead yet be immediately pulled back to safety in case of emergency

Political Intrigue & Diplomatic Maneuvers: Despite his mediocre charisma, the Chrono-Legionnaire has maxed out his ranks in diplomacy and can deal with moderately sticky diplomatic situations. He also has the Detect Hostile Intent power on his list, which helps ... well... detect hostiles. This can be ever so invaluable for quick diplomatic decision making. He's no diplomancer & knows when to make way for the party bard. That said, he can escape awkward situations incredibly fast.

A BBEG/ Mastermind/ Warlord: I believe the anti-Heca trick shown above is an adequate display of the Chrono-Legionnaire's prowess against single opponents.

Mobs: Energy burst offers a 40' radius burst centered on the manifester and deals d6 energy damage of any type of energy (specified upon manifestation) against any foes in that area. Can't ask for much better area damage than that. The saving throw can be made to be a fort or ref save, and can be enhanced by chaotic surge (described above in class abilities of note).

Overwhelming Odds: No one can get out of dodge like the Chrono-Legionnaire. An XP-free contingent teleport (teleport trigger) is key here. Dimension door and divert teleport are also good means of getting out fast. Anticipatory Strike also means an immediate action "I take next round's turn NOW" when he really needs to leave.

Meeting Constraints:
The Optimization Constraints:
Melee Damage or Non-Magical Ranged Damage Capability:

The leap attack + deep impact routine is a good way to meet this constraint. With 17 BAB, the chrono-legionnaire is quite capable in normal comabat as well.
Defensive Capability: Immunity to mind-affecting effects is nice, his AC is over 40 without applying any buffs and can go into the high 50s with buffs.
Magical Offensive Capability: 9th level powers, 360 pp. He's not as good as a straight psion, but he's pretty darn good.
Tactical Advantage: Telekentic maneuvers (via the power), diverted dimensional twisters, and retrieve make this guy quite capable of befuddling and disabling his foes at a range. Nothing says ownage quite like being damaged and teleported over 300' feet in the same round.
Party Benefit: Psionics is not reknown for buffing others, but dimension swap and some of the tactical maneuvers above make the Chrono-Legionnaire a good guy to have around in combat. He's also able to serve as the party tracker with maxed out ranks in survival and the track feat. In a party with the Legionnaire, a party member is wherever he needs to be when he needs to be. Forcecage the fighter? No problem, he's out on the Legionnaire's turn without skipping a beat. The casters in the party will love how the Legionnaire reduces the PR of enemies too.
High Initiative: 2 + dex. Not astounding, but not bad.
Skillz: 186 skills is pretty decent. He's able to cover all the necessary bases and have some left over for things like maxed out tracking and diplomacy.
Endurance: Not the strongest ability our character has, but I feel confident that he can handle 3-4 encounters per day and still kick butt -- provided these encounters aren't CR 57 Hecas...
Playable: The only combat weak area is the first six levels, however, during this time he is a quite functional psion. 12th level and beyond is where this build really excels.
Minimal Buffs: AMF is not good for this guy as he can't use deep impact in an AMF, but he's still got 17 BAB and decent physical stats. He wouldn't fight a barbarian in an AMF if he could help it.

Additional Restrictions:
Powerful Magic: Able to manifest 9th level powers.
High Base Attack: 17 BAB by 20th level.
No ASF: Powers are not subject to ASF.
High Armor Class: Without buffs he has 44 AC, which meets the greater than or equal to 40 constraint.
High Damage: He can deal over 200 damage reliably against anything with a touch AC below 34 for at least 40 rounds per day while also teleporting in and out each round (with a TP range of 300+ feet).
No Form Altering: Just say no. He doesn't even have access to such abilities.


Conclusion:
Psi-Gish are fairly limited in their abilities when compared to Arcane-based gish, but I hope this entry has demonstrated some of the unique capabilities that are available to psionics. First and foremost is the incredibly powerful and versatile control body + schism + solicit psi-crystal trick, which is employed here. Nothing is better than taking a full round attack, 2 standard actions, and a mental move-action every round when the going gets tough.

Books Used:
XPH: Slayer, Nomad, & most powers & feats
PHB
DMG: Most magic items
MiniHB: Belt of Magnificence
UE: Valorous weapon enhancement
CPsi: Anarchic Initiate, various powers

Undeniably amazing, but thats what i file under -too much-.
Great for ideas though

Eldariel
2010-02-24, 07:48 PM
Undeniably amazing, but thats what i file under -too much-.
Great for ideas though

I posted the whole post just for that reason; so you can see what could be done with it and work from there. You needn't follow it of course, but the general idea of Teleport-By Attack in Psion Gish shell seems like precisely the thing you want.

Thrice Dead Cat
2010-02-24, 08:06 PM
My preferred multibuffing Gish uses War Weaver (Heroes of Battle), Spellguard of Silvery Moon (Player's Guide to Faerun), Arcane Disciple: WAR, and some means of persistent spell. and "cheating," but that may be apart of the above, natch.

Rough build is Wizard 3/War Weaver 5/Spellguard 4/Abjurant Champion 5/[Something for full or near fullcasting] 2. I like to end with Legacy Champion to drop 6th (6th with Sanctum Spell) level buffs into the Weave and giggle as everyone in the party has all day buffs.

Sanctum Spell gets you into War Weaver. Use Easy/Practical Metamagic, MM School Focus or Incantatrix to get Persistent up all day.

Nate the Snake
2010-02-24, 08:23 PM
so, low levels, with access to elocater would be cool

You'll probably want the (Educated) Wilder 6/Elocater X, then. My other suggestions spend the early levels arranging prerequisites in a convenient order. You'll be feat-starved, though.

Feats:
1-Dodge*
H-Mobility
3-open, or Mobility if non-human
5-Expanded Knowledge (replace Volatile Mind)
6-Spring Attack

*I recommend allowing Psionic Dodge to replace Dodge instead of requiring it.


Hmm... Does Dragonslayer gives armour profs? If so, that would be why I include it in my Gish builds.

Yes, it gives armor proficiencies, including heavy armor and tower shields.

Thurbane
2010-02-24, 08:28 PM
The Githzerai(Yanki? I can never remember which is which) have a well established tradition of Fighter/Wizards who are referred to as Gish.
I think the term originated in the 1E Fiend Folio, if memory serves.

Silly question: has anyone ever thought of doing a 3.X Gish prestige class...sort of like the Githyanki equivalent of the Eldritch Knight? Or is there really no point, given the proliferation of Gish-type PrCs already out there?

Samb
2010-02-24, 08:33 PM
Why hasn't anyone mentioned Ardent? Make that an Ardent with dominant ideal and substitute powers ACF.

Pros:
Ardent has 3/4 BAB, much better PP than a psywar, and can use 9th level powers. 3/4 is good, but you can get full BAB with metamorphosis which should speak for itself.

It can select any and use any power it can manifest. So with practised manifester, you can dip into 4 non-ardent classes and still have all your 9th levels powers!!!

Dominant ideal lets you use metapsionic feats on powers in your dominant mantle and still retain your focus and decrease the metapsionic cost by 2. Know what that means? Link power all day long, expand power (+0 PP) for infinite range. How about taking psionic meditation and linking hustle continuously so you can use deep impact all the time? Yes, you just broke one of the basic balancing factors of psionics.

Substitute powers lets you swap/add powers into mantles provided it is thematically appropriate. So you could put greater metamorphosis in natrual world mantle now! Or get energy barrage/missile? Saves you a bunch on feats for EK.


Cons:
No bonus feats: Mantles provide feats, and taking dips into psywar and fighter provide 2-4 feats without losing ML. Subsitute powers saves on feats as well.




Here's my build suggestion.
Ardent 10/psywar2/wilder1/anarchic initate7
With freedom as your dominant mantle. You now still have all your 9th level powers, wild surge +3, the ability to always have maintain focus.

Amphetryon
2010-02-24, 10:24 PM
Why hasn't anyone mentioned Ardent? Make that an Ardent with dominant ideal and substitute powers ACF.


T_G's Ardent build compendium and 'psygish in a can!' threads are currently held hostage in the Wayback Machine. Luckily, some poster called "Samb" made a handbook on another forum (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=5871.0). :smallwink:

Human Paragon 3
2010-02-24, 10:30 PM
If you don't like the aberration hunting flavor of the slayer, you might like my update of the PrC, the Urban Slayer (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112859&highlight=illithid+slayer)

CTLC
2010-02-24, 10:35 PM
ardents are ok, but are really not very strong at most levels, and below the level of this campaign. And every single dam mantle sucks at most levels.

Dusk Eclipse
2010-02-24, 10:46 PM
ardents are ok, but are really not very strong at most levels, and below the level of this campaign. And every single dam mantle sucks at most levels.

That's why you take the ACF that let's you substitute powers from the mantle for other's that fit the general theme of the mantle. By the way you find that ACF on the mind's eye article

Samb
2010-02-24, 10:46 PM
ardents are ok, but are really not very strong at most levels, and below the level of this campaign. And every single dam mantle sucks at most levels.

At level 10 with dominant mantle they are damn strong. You know what psionic focus is right? And you did read what substitute powers does right?

Don't ask for feedback if you don't read the responses.

CTLC
2010-02-24, 10:52 PM
At level 10 with dominant mantle they are damn strong. You know what psionic focus is right? And you did read what substitute powers does right?

Don't ask for feedback if you don't read the responses.

jeez, my DM doesnt like the acf so its a no-go. I read the responses thanks, and yeah i know what it is and what it does. Its just not gonna work in this campaign due to the dm.

Sophismata
2010-02-24, 10:57 PM
Why hasn't anyone mentioned Ardent? Make that an Ardent with dominant ideal and substitute powers ACF.

Beat me to it :P. Just a note, though - the only feats provided by mantles are Weapon Focus and Improved Sunder.

If the OP really wants Elocater (and let's face it, Scorn Earth is cool):

Ranger 1 / Ardent 1 / PsyWar 2 / Ardent +1 / Elocater 1 / Slayer X

Staying in Elocater is going to hurt you a fair bit, since with 10 or 11 levels you don't really get access to anything worthwhile other than +2 opportunistic strike, and you lose a feat for that.

So, we pick up scorn earth, and move into the Slayer prestige class, which gives as full BAB. Note that we lose 4 manifester levels over the course of this progression - but we can take the feat Practiced Manifester at level 3 to make up for it.

This requires some work on your part - you need to pick 3 mantles for your Ardent, and fill them up with powers from level 1 - 9 appropriate to the mantle. As-is, the mantles don't come with many powers, but there is an option (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20070629a) called Substitute Powers that, with DM approval, let's you add appropriate powers to the mantle lists.

If you want to have decent skills, you'll need to be Human and take the feat Able Learner. The Ardent list is beyond crappy. Also, Int isn't a focus for you, since you need Str for melee, Con for hitpoints and Wis for casting.

Since you'll be taking Dodge and Mobility and Spring Attack, you also should pick up Elusive Target and the extra spring attack feats (they give you more attacks, no clue where they are ATM).

Soranar
2010-02-24, 11:13 PM
For a decent gish I'm told these are decent (personally don't play them myself)

monk 1 or 2/psychic warrior x

key feats: talashora something (I forget), any psionic class also progresses a monk's unarmed damage

there's also the feat Sun school (Tactical, from complete warrior)

you need BAB +4 so generally you'd take it at level 6, besides you probably can't teleport until then

the feat makes you able to attack once after using abundant step or dimension door (the feat has 3 options but this is what concerns you) so you can really surprise casters (teleport-stunning fist surprise, since your Wis should be fairly high it's quite strong)

To reduce your MAD you have a few options

from ToB: martial study, martial stance (if you take it late enough you can take assassin's stance for 2d6 sneak) and finally shadow blade (apply Dex to Damage with unarmed strike instead of Str)

you get bonus feats so you can afford it early, you can also take intuitive strike and just keep pumping WIS for AC, to hit, will saves and psychic warrior abilities

templates: necropolitan works well (ignore Con altogether, with a d8 class you're about as healthy as a 14 Con character and you gain lots of immunities and Psychic warrior has high Fort saves anyway)

(if undead you need WIS and DEX, if not you need WIS, DEX and CON)

and expanded knowledge lets you learn other powers

Otherwise swiftblade is fun to play too

Seatbelt
2010-02-24, 11:19 PM
I think the technical requirments of a gish were at least 9th level spellcasting and BAB +16

Soranar
2010-02-24, 11:40 PM
I think the technical requirments of a gish were at least 9th level spellcasting and BAB +16

I didn't bother with that since he insisted on a low level efficiency.

For a build level 10 and up (instead of 1) I'd recommend an arcane gish.

KellKheraptis
2010-02-25, 12:11 AM
Given it's not expected to go beyond level 15, I'd say see if you can get Metaphysical Spellshaper okay-ed from BoEF, then go Elven Wizard 3/MPSS 3/Incantatrix X (the rest) and pick up the Competition domain from either Planar Touchstone or Arcane Disciple. Metaphysical Spellshaper combined with immunity to ability burn is automatic metamagic, and also turns you spontaneous if you apply metamagic (so snag Invisible Spell), giving access to all the sorc tricks, only with WAY more spells known. For a level 20 build :

Elven Wizard 3/Metaphysical Spellshaper 1/Spelldancer 2/Swiftblade 9/Abjurant Champion 5

Uses early entry (Sanctum Spell) into MPSS and fractional BAB, and in general owns face. Drop MPSS for another level of Wizard if fractions aren't an option.

magic9mushroom
2010-02-25, 12:11 AM
ardents are ok, but are really not very strong at most levels, and below the level of this campaign. And every single dam mantle sucks at most levels.

Ardents are one of the better gish classes.

The best, of course, are Cleric and Druid.

Akal Saris
2010-02-25, 01:17 AM
Another solid gish prestige class is the JPM (Jade Phoenix Mage) from the Tome of Battle. It's got one of the coolest capstones of any class: you can self-destruct in a huge 20d6 fireball and come back (like the phoenix...) 1d6 rounds later, fully-healed.

Human Warblade 1/Transmuter 4/Jade Phoenix Mage 10/Abjurant Champion 5

The above build would get +18 Base attack bonus, 9th level spells, CL 20 with Practiced Spellcaster, auto-quickened abjurations up to 3rd level, 1/enc free empowered and quickened spells from Jade Phoenix Mage, and with the right build order up to 7th level maneuvers.

Edit: Hmm, 9 rank skills requirement means either burning 2 feats from Cityscape to enter earlier, some really dumb cheese with rebuilding/heartfanner, or changing the build to Human Warblade 1/Transmuter 5/Jade Phoenix Mage 10/Abjurant Champion 4, losing 1 BAB and quickened 3rd level abjurations. Probably worth it to burn the 2 feats.

magic9mushroom
2010-02-25, 01:33 AM
Another solid gish prestige class is the JPM (Jade Phoenix Mage) from the Tome of Battle. It's got one of the coolest capstones of any class: you can self-destruct in a huge 20d6 fireball and come back (like the phoenix...) 1d6 rounds later, fully-healed.

Human Warblade 1/Transmuter 4/Jade Phoenix Mage 10/Abjurant Champion 5

The above build would get +18 Base attack bonus, 9th level spells, CL 20 with Practiced Spellcaster, auto-quickened abjurations up to 3rd level, 1/enc free empowered and quickened spells from Jade Phoenix Mage, and with the right build order up to 7th level maneuvers.

Edit: Hmm, 9 rank skills requirement means either burning 2 feats from Cityscape to enter earlier, some really dumb cheese with rebuilding/heartfanner, or changing the build to Human Warblade 1/Transmuter 5/Jade Phoenix Mage 10/Abjurant Champion 4, losing 1 BAB and quickened 3rd level abjurations. Probably worth it to burn the 2 feats.

Favoured/Primary Contact, if that's what you're referring to, can be Chaos Shuffled after you're in.

gorfnab
2010-02-25, 01:53 AM
JPM Gishes are great. My favorite though is Bard 6/ Crusader 2/ Jade Phoenix Mage 2/ Sublime Chord 2/ Jade Phoenix Mage 8 with Dragonfire Inspiration

magic9mushroom
2010-02-25, 02:04 AM
JPM Gishes are great. My favorite though is Bard 6/ Crusader 2/ Jade Phoenix Mage 2/ Sublime Chord 2/ Jade Phoenix Mage 8 with Dragonfire Inspiration

While Song of Arcane Power is nice, couldn't you drop the second level of Sublime Chord for JPM and get another level to do something with beforehand?

Samb
2010-02-25, 06:31 PM
T_G's Ardent build compendium and 'psygish in a can!' threads are currently held hostage in the Wayback Machine. Luckily, some poster called "Samb" made a handbook on another forum (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=5871.0). :smallwink:

Yeah thanks for bump hehe. I do need to update it. Ardents are pretty good already, but with those two AFCs (can sub powers really count as ACF?) it takes Ardent over the top.

To OP, is getting 16 BAB really that important? Any class with metamorphosis will make BAB and physical stats a non issue.

I personally prefer wilders gishes because wild surge= break another rule of psionics (no spending more pp than MLs). Metamorph into higher level things sooner than your psion comtemparies. Surging euphoria adds significantly to your damage and accuracy as well. If you can't use the maenad sub level to eliminate ennervation there is always uncondional power, swift recovery, sancified mind, schism, pospone ennervation to combat it.

I would still kindly ask your DM to allow the ardent with sub powers. Even without breaking psionics, ardents still offer more flexibility as a Gish than wilder or psion.

Pluto
2010-02-26, 03:37 AM
Scout 1/Nomad 4/Anarchic Initiate 3/Elocator X feels right to me.

Wilder/Elocator could also work, if you don't mind the ridiculously limited powers known list.

It sounds like you have an idea of what you want. Just add a couple of the required feats like [Expeditious] Dodge, Mobility and Link Power and you'll have your character built.

Samb
2010-02-26, 03:43 PM
I don't really know what the OP wants because a psion with metamorphosis and metamorphic transfer is a great "Gish" already. Hell, any psi user with those are great gishes.

Did he mean without metamorph? In which case it is not optimized and hence an invalid question. With metamorphosis, then it is just a question of how soon you can hit 15HD (overchannel and wild surge) and how you can turn yourself into an outsider (hint: skin of the celestial gives you half celestial template).

Why even waste ML on elocater, other than opportunistic strike (which admittedly is very good). AI is the only PrC worth considering because it has wild surge.