Belkar's secret

[Orzel]

We know he's fueled by plot and humor. Imagine if he was not. With what we don't know, what could the SSGoW have that fuels his killing? Str and
Con 16? Broken feat combo?

[Asta Kask]

His love for Mr. Scruffy?

[FafnerMorell]

Perhaps he really is the sexy, shoeless god of war.

[Asta Kask]

Perhaps he really is the kwisatz haderach ?

[TriForce]

We know he's fueled by plot and humor. Imagine if he was not. With what we don't know, what could the SSGoW have that fuels his killing? Str and
Con 16? Broken feat combo?

a divine rank

[fwiffo]

Deep seated insecurity fueled by other halflings making fun of him for his love of Broadway show tunes.

[Optimystik]

I posted some abilities in the last thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7774507) about his supposed SSGoW PrC.

[WildPyre]

It's simple... he has a loaded d20. :belkar:

[Magicyop]

It's simple... he has a loaded d20. :belkar:

That sounds so much like Belkar that it has to be true.

:belkar: : Yes! Another natural 20!
DM: Man, you sure are lucky all the time.

[licoot]

It's simple... he has a loaded d20. :belkar:

there's no way that can be wrong

[Ancalagon]

We know he's fueled by plot and humor. Imagine if he was not. With what we don't know, what could the SSGoW have that fuels his killing? Str and
Con 16? Broken feat combo?

There are systems where you can take the disadvantage/advantage "Destiny". It basically means your character will meet his destinity. Permanently. Very soon.

And he gets a big bonus on char creation for that. Maybe Belkar has something like that?

(This exists in GURPS and to a lesser degree in the World of Darkness as well)

On the other hand: Who cares? Belkar as "Sexy, Shoeless God of War" is better if he really can back this claim up. And he's going to die anyway. Very soon.

[ChowGuy]

Well, lets see, dice are sometimes referred to as "bones" and as we know Belkar doesn't have to load his bones. He just threatens them.

:belkar: Now, natural twenty!

:xykon: Yes Sir Mr Bitterleaf sir! (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0450.html)

[Optimystik]

Well, lets see, dice are sometimes referred to as "bones" and as we know Belkar doesn't have to load his bones. He just threatens them.

That pun was a confirmed critical...

[Chainsaw Hobbit]

Perhaps he really is the sexy, shoeless god of war.

Of course Belkar is the sexy, shoeless god of war. hes just awesome, some things are better left unexplained. :smallwink:

[TheGrimace]

also, he mostly kills things that a level 14 (or whatever the current level is supposed to be) character wouldn't have issue with.

yay! I killed a ton of CR 1/2
(almost literally)

edit: maybe literally

[Bothi]

A belkar without violence is like a blue and red zebra... IT WONT HAPPEN

[Goonthegoof]

He tends to run straight at people and attack them a lot, has levels in barbarian and we keep mistaking him jumping and stabbing for two-weapon pounce. Perhaps the barbarian was spirit lion totem and he's been abusing leap attack/shock trooper and nobody noticed?

[Wolfskin75]

I am new here. and I just finish a week long stint of reading OOTS :smallwink: and maybe I missed it:smallbiggrin: ... is Belkar Chaotic evil? or Chaotic Neutral ?

[Asta Kask]

He is very, very, very Chaotic Evil.

Oh, and thread necromancy (posting threads more than a page old) is frowned upon by the mighty Roland. ALL HAIL ROLAND!!!

[Wolfskin75]

OH. I really like him... Him and Elan get me laughing the most. Damn... :smallfrown:

[Rae Artemi]

He is very, very, very Chaotic Evil.

Oh, and thread necromancy (posting threads more than a page old) is frowned upon by the mighty Roland. ALL HAIL ROLAND!!!

Actually it's three weeks and on page three, so it wasn't necromancy yet.

[Asta Kask]

Actually it's three weeks and on page three, so it wasn't necromancy yet.

Ok. I withdraw my objections.

[Zherog]

Well, actually, it's six weeks. But who's counting? ;) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/announcement.php?a=1)


Thread Necromancy
Bringing a thread back from “the dead.” If a thread has fallen to page three and hasn’t been posted in for a month and a half, don’t post to it. Start a new topic if you want to discuss the subject.

[Herald Alberich]

OH. I really like him... Him and Elan get me laughing the most. Damn... :smallfrown:

Oh, he's certainly funny and likable - as a character. As a person, he's a horrible, loathsome little being.

Keep those distinctions in mind and there's no problem enjoying his antics.

[Raging Gene Ray]

He mixes and matches 2nd edition, 3.0, 3.5, Pathfinder, and 4.0 rules as would most benefit him?

[Asta Kask]

I think he's played by the DM's S.O. Ring of DM Control is by far the most powerful artifact in the game.

[Nimrod's Son]

I am new here. and I just finish a week long stint of reading OOTS :smallwink: and maybe I missed it:smallbiggrin: ... is Belkar Chaotic evil? or Chaotic Neutral ?
...Just in case you don't want to take our word for it (and, unfortunatley, there have been more than a few who don't :smallwink:), here's Belkar's own take on the matter (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0610.html). (Page 2, panel 4.)

[Kranden]

I am new here. and I just finish a week long stint of reading OOTS :smallwink: and maybe I missed it:smallbiggrin: ... is Belkar Chaotic evil? or Chaotic Neutral ?

He is very chaotic evil, but he is also pretending to be chaotic neutral so his allies will tolerate him and wont ditch him.

[Ancalagon]

He is very chaotic evil, but he is also pretending to be chaotic neutral so his allies will tolerate him and wont ditch him.

... whose allies don't believe his change for a second. Roy and Haley have it in-comic confirmed, Elan might not have realised Belkar was evil in the first place and for the others... I doubt they believe it as well...

[Kish]

Elan might not have realised Belkar was evil in the first place
Elan is the one who wanted to leave Belkar in Shojo's prison, remember?

[Ancalagon]

Ah, good point. So I change it to: "Even Elan does not buy that play".

[TheWerdna]

Ah, good point. So I change it to: "Even Elan does not buy that play".

ahhhhh the pun, IT BURNS!!!

[Debatra]

It's simple... he has a loaded d20. :belkar:

Too bad he forgets to use it (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0003.html) all the time. :smallbiggrin:

[zimmerwald1915]

... whose allies don't believe his change for a second. Roy and Haley have it in-comic confirmed, Elan might not have realised Belkar was evil in the first place and for the others... I doubt they believe it as well...
He also welcomes Darth V to "the deep end of the alignment pool" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0645.html), implying that he is himself a resident. And then Ganonron and Jephton confirm it for V.

[Ancalagon]

He also welcomes Darth V to "the deep end of the alignment pool" (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0645.html), implying that he is himself a resident. And then Ganonron and Jephton confirm it for V.

Sure, but what does that have to do with the current topic? I doubt anyone doubts Belkar is aware of his own evilness...

[Liwen]

He has favored enemy : everything.

[zimmerwald1915]

Sure, but what does that have to do with the current topic? I doubt anyone doubts Belkar is aware of his own evilness...
Just completing the list of Oots members who don't buy Belkar's nonsense :smallbiggrin:

[Draconi Redfir]

My random theory as to what fuels Belkar:


Belkar is a halfling prince! yet he doesn’t want to be, years ago his father (the king) forced him through vigorous training and studying to become a king, one day, belkar had enough, in a fit of rage brought on by his father, Belkar picked up a nearby letter-opener, and killed his father. This had unforeseen consequences however, as the halfling kingdom praised him as the new king!

so Belkar continued to kill, trying to get himself removed from the throne, eventually he simply ran away to kill more things, ever in a quest for his removal from the throne.

[lucasliso]

Is Mr. Scruffy supposed to be Belkar's animal follower? Or is just following him because of animal empathy? (You know, him being a ranger and all that.)

[Herald Alberich]

my random theory as to what fuels belkaqr:


Belkar is a halfling prince! yet he dosent want to be, years ago his father (the king) forced him through vigorus training and studying to become a king, one day, belkar had enough, in a fit of rage brought on by his father, Belkar picked up a narbuy letter-opener, and killed hios father. this had unforseen consiquences however, as the halfling kingdom praised him as the new king!

so Belkar continued to kill, trying to get himself removed from the throne, eventually he simply ran away to kill more things,ever in a quest for his removal from the throne.

If Belkar was a king, he'd have had all of his subjects kill each other (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0533.html) by now. On the other hand, if he is nobility of some kind, that would go a ways toward explaining why he thinks normal rules don't apply to him.

[Draconi Redfir]

If Belkar was a king, he'd have had all of his subjects kill each other (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0533.html) by now.


Its either a giant ruse, or he only realised the true potential of being in power after he exiled himself from his kingdom.

[Dracons]

A belkar without violence is like a blue and red zebra... IT WONT HAPPEN

You haven't played Breath of Fire 3 then.

[Imgran]

That sounds so much like Belkar that it has to be true.

:belkar: : Yes! Another natural 20!
DM: Man, you sure are lucky all the time.

No, you don't want all natural 20's. That's the highest possible roll and getting it all the time is highly suspicious. No one would let you get away with that.

You want a die weighted in favor of 18's. 18 is low enough to fail sometimes and as long as you fail at least sometimes you won't alert too much suspicion.

....

what?

[Jack of Spades]

Maybe the actual god of war has also foreseen Belkar's death and is letting the little fella rack up the badass points before he kicks it?

[talkamancer]

Maybe the actual god of war has also foreseen Belkar's death and is letting the little fella rack up the badass points before he kicks it?

Does this mythical being have shoes ?

[npc revolution]

Does this mythical being have shoes ?

he used to, but then he saw Belkar and thought it was a good look.

[multilis]

Seeing that Belkar is prophesied to perma-die *very* soon, and some of party is under attack now, we might be getting some Belkar insights in next few comics.

[doodthedud]

He is very, very, very Chaotic Evil.

Oh, and thread necromancy (posting threads more than a page old) is frowned upon by the mighty Roland. ALL HAIL ROLAND!!!

A day? That seems kinda.....strict....

Anyways, dice are sometimes called bones because they were often made from bones.

Also, I'm gonna go with the loaded dice theory.

[Bothi]

Goonthegoof has one of the best signatures I've seen in a LONG time! Cyber high-five to you!

[RMcMurtry]

Is Mr. Scruffy supposed to be Belkar's animal follower? Or is just following him because of animal empathy? (You know, him being a ranger and all that.)

Don't know. He could be an animal companion (rangers get those, but Belkar was never shown with one previously). Belkar may simply have adopted him in the ruins of Azure City. Belkar was prophesied to save Hinjo's life twice, so the cat may just stick around until that's completed.

[Bothi]

Don't know. He could be an animal companion (rangers get those, but Belkar was never shown with one previously). Belkar may simply have adopted him in the ruins of Azure City. Belkar was prophesied to save Hinjo's life twice, so the cat may just stick around until that's completed.

No, they stay together because belkar belives, and i quote "Mr.scruffy is a cold blooded carnivore!" As hard as it may be to belive, belkar has a soft spot for him. Nothing complicated.

[Bavarian itP]

Elan is the one who wanted to leave Belkar in Shojo's prison, remember?

No. No, I don't. I remember that Elan overjoyed (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0294.html) when Belkar was left out of Shojo's prison.

But it's beside the point anyway, because that was before Belkar began faking his alignment.

[RMcMurtry]

No, they stay together because belkar belives, and i quote "Mr.scruffy is a cold blooded carnivore!" As hard as it may be to belive, belkar has a soft spot for him. Nothing complicated.

Which is about on the level of "Belkar adopted a cat".

[Asta Kask]

A day? That seems kinda.....strict....

Read the entire first page. It's actually six weeks...

[Kish]

No. No, I don't. I remember that Elan overjoyed (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0294.html) when Belkar was left out of Shojo's prison.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0263.html Check the seventh panel.


But it's beside the point anyway, because that was before Belkar began faking his alignment.
...which he's done well enough to fool exactly one person, counting himself.

[ThePhantasm]

... whose allies don't believe his change for a second. Roy and Haley have it in-comic confirmed, Elan might not have realised Belkar was evil in the first place and for the others... I doubt they believe it as well...

You might want to take a look at Elan's reaction to the fact that he is leaving Haley behind in Azure city with Belkar....

[Shatteredtower]

When I saw the title of the thread, I assumed it was about Belkar applying his culinary knowledge to create a line of edible lingerie.

On the subject of character build, all we know is that he's the only one taking an xp penalty for multi-classing by 3rd Ed rules. Nice of him to give the others a chance to catch up.

[Anias]

Sure, but what does that have to do with the current topic? I doubt anyone doubts Belkar is aware of his own evilness...

Gah!
Look at http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0610.html

To quote Belkar, "I'm chaotic evil!"

He knows exactly what he is, and he likes it.

[Haven]

Gah!
Look at http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0610.html

To quote Belkar, "I'm chaotic evil!"

He knows exactly what he is, and he likes it.

The Giant once said that he'd still get alignment debate threads on Belkar if he had him say "I'm Chaotic Evil!", eat a puppy, and then wink at the audience. So this is no surprise.

[Shale]

" I doubt anyone doubts Belkar is aware of his alignment" reduces to "Belkar is aware of his alignment." There's no argument here, people.

[MonkeyBusiness]

Hmm. Maybe he's pregnant. Permanently. That would drive anyone over the edge.




We know he's fueled by plot and humor. Imagine if he was not. With what we don't know, what could the SSGoW have that fuels his killing? Str and Con 16? Broken feat combo?

MBiz